Re: Note that difference *loan* (with interest) versus old car maker (2nd or 3rd) bailout.

Well, they don't need your cash now anyway so you can quit whining.

Re: Finance?

> Reg reader since the 90s but never felt strongly about anything before to post

There are an awful lot of you commenting on this subject, and all saying how much you believe that the black box does just what it says on the tin.

> I would like to see a serious discussion about potential flaws in the setup...

We don't know what the setup is, because they haven't told us what it is.

Re: "It's presumably converting its mass into energy."

Baar McFly

Registered on the day of the article and only commented on the article.

There are a few of them commenting here. Sock-puppet action is a classic sign of fraud.

Re: No Brainer

> ...but we have to take it at their word that...

So, what you're saying is, that to actually know, you have to look inside the box.

Re: Finance?

>Let me put it another way: would you rather put 5% of your assets in a portfolio

>of coal, gas, oil, wind and solar companies or would you rather put it into a dozen

>outfits that try different new approaches to energy generation, from Rossi to Flibe,

>from TerraPower to TriAlpha in the hope that one hits the jackpot at some point?

I actually do have a few hundred grand invested in various companies. Whilst I do back risky ventures, this one is complete horseshit.

I see you signed up today and you've only posted on this topic.

Are you connected to this?

Did you sign up just to plug it?

>Sophisticated investors have backed much more idiotic ventures than these before.

Yes, they have, and I'm sure you will find some gullible fool to separate from his money.

Probably not a Reg reader though.

Re: Finance?

>On investing there's nothing wrong with being optimistic...

No, but you'd need a brain-bypass to go anywhere near this thing with money.

Re: Has anyone actually read the paper?

>I measure input and output and after a certain period it's clear that it can't be a chemical process.

Nonsense. There's nothing like enough energy there to rule out chemical processes.

>I can't see the source code but I can verify that it works without knowing the detail.

No, you can't. All you can verify is the result it gives you for the test data you have used. Having tried 1+1 and got 2 you have no idea that 5+5 doesn't also give 2, or even that it is correct for every pair of numbers you might try.

How do you know that there isn't a broken number in there? Perhaps 6000101203 +1 gives 5, but every other possible combination is correct?

You know what it is _supposed_ to do and have inferred that it does what they said it does because you've prodded it with a stick.

Which is pretty much a description of the testing carried out on this device.

Re: Disgrace of the sort of comments

First, he must say what he is doing, and he hasn't done that.

Re: Has anyone actually read the paper?

> I have and I can't find many flaws with it.

You feel there is enough information there to reproduce the experiment and verify it then?

Re: No Brainer

> If it manages weeks?

How big is the box?

The longer it goes on the more you can be sure he's got a good generator.

To prove it's fusion you need to see what is in the box.

Re: No Brainer

>If it can continue to produce 2KW of output for an input of 306W then he's proved his case.

Even if it goes chugga-chugga-chugga and smells of diesel?

Re: it isn't radio waves

So you have a magnetic field changing at a frequency of 13.56MHz and this isn't a radio?

Nope, I still don't get it.

Re: Windows 7 is a poor OS

I should probably point out that if you have a binary blob driver installed (nVidia?) you're not open source anyway.

Re: Cash Points

>These people with two cards are a total pain in the ass.

Don't run your own business then?

There will also be two transactions at exactly the same time for exactly the same amount, one on chip and pin the other on bonk.

I suspect that's the basis of the refunds, as it's pretty unarguable that one must be wrong.

Re: Whoever thought security through proximity was a good idea.

>the sods are seriously inventive.

..and violent. Some people obviously don't realise that a mugger is often quite happy to get 20 quid.

I have a Natwest credit card without NFC, and a Barclaycard with. I don't like it either, how will it work when it's widespread and you are expected to prove you agreed to pay?

> there is no money that would make me move to London.

Same here, top of my job search criteria is "Location: not London".

It's an expensive and unpleasant place.

Re: Windows 8 is OK.

Wound up with a win 8 laptop and I quite like it. Admittedly the start menu isn't great, but it still does the job and once you get past that and everything works quite nicely. Actually barely use the start menu at all using taskbar pins instead.

Seems much more reliable than any other version of windows I've used before as well.

Re: NHS patients who refuse to allow their data to be shared across the NHS

Which part of "NHS patients who refuse to allow their data to be shared across the NHS" isn't clear?

Re: NHS patients who refuse to allow their data to be shared across the NHS

3 downvotes, but you don't worry about this shit when it's Google, or Tesco or Amazon or Apple.

All of whom will quite happily tell you to naff off if you want to control how they use your info such that it becomes harder for them to deliver their services.

Organisations need to use your info and need to disseminate it across the organisation, anything else is inefficient and pissing money against the wall.

Re: Your underlying assumption

Again, the claim isn't that it's fully productive either, just that the productivity isn't the zero it is assumed to be.

If you travel regularly on trains you arrange your work such that you can do the train compatible bits on the train where possible, mostly so you don't have to look up and see the horrors around you.

Re: Your underlying assumption

This isn't correct. The underlying assumption is that the time spent on the train can be productive, not that the reason for the journey doesn't exist.

Re: Good god!

> Asshole I may be. Opinions vary.

I think we need a poll.

>...by time you have written a neat set of class lectures along with all diagrams and explanations it is a LOT of work.

These days students pay a lot of money for it.

On a level with the UK's "Beagle" effort.

Isn't Beagle significantly deeper?

Re: Vaporware

>Sorry, but you confuse fusion energy generation with propulsion...

Propulsion and energy generation are not unconnected, consider the rotor in an alternator, if you make it go round you can make leccy from it.

>...the unit would be ineffective for electrical energy generation, but highly

>efficient at delivering impulses to the spacecraft.

It's putting out more than 200KW though otherwise where has the energy from the fusion reaction gone?

Re: The mystery of the mysterious operatives

Cables appear on charts as anchoring hazards, the precise configuration and purpose of the cable generally does not.

>...it's meant to be used for the 95% of journeys...

That leaves 5% (1 in 20 or 2-4 times a month?) where it's a spectacular pain in the arse.

Re: This is probably how they are going to take over the world

It also gives them somewhere to sit while the nukes get flung about on earth.