13 posts • joined 17 Mar 2012
Authenticated Proxy Issue for Modern Apps
Is still not fixed in 8.1 Update. If you're using some full screen modern apps (see eBay or Yammer as an example) and you're on a corporate network behind an ISA or TMG proxy which requires AD authentication, they just don't work.
In 8 - many Metro apps weren't even proxy aware - in 8.1 they added proxy support for metro apps, but didn't support ISA/TMG auth proxy and told us they were 'working on it'.
They promised this fix for 8.1 Update but still not there. It's down to some modern apps (in the main) not using the IE back end for proxy like Outlook and other normal Apps do. It's not an app developer thing to fix, though - it's for Microsoft to fix and they know that.
If you wireshark the conversation - you can see the client trying to use the proxy, the proxy request user authentication and immediately the app goes 'pop' and complains about network connection. Dur.
I know it's contentious in a free internet
But if most ISP's have some rudimentary content filtering enabled now as per the govt's requirements, blocking access to specific websites which are deemed 'unsavoury', why aren't they adding rules to block access to these DNS pharming IP addresses?
I know those of us who are IT savvy are smart enough to sort these issues ourselves, but the majority of the populous who have no idea at all about DNS addresses and patching routers probably could do with a bit of hand holding and this wouldn't be heavy handed.
Agreed - it will increase the level of calls to the ISP's due to people's internet connections stopping working, but in some cases what that might do is force people to actually look at their router config or prompt them into seeking assistance to fix the problem?
Re: You got an ologist
I know that. I remember it being on TV the first time. With the gormless looking lad and Maureen finishing the cake.
Hull is always proud of the fact that she's one of the only famous people to have come from Hull. Her and Joe Longthorne.
Please note that any use of intentional malapropisms may be punished.
You got an ologist
You're a scientist.
(cf Maureen Lipman, BT) :)
Yep - York does have 4G although it's quite patchy. You will get it on Coney Street but it disappears halfway down Tadcaster Road. It doesn't cover south-west York, only north and east.
With relation to Weaverthorpe - It's probably because the TX there is very new - I remember TMobile putting the TX up - it's on the top ridge road from Weaverthorpe over the wold down towards Sherburn.
All the locals are on EE - we all knew that Orange/EE is the only carrier that gets service - they almost have a bit of a monopoly there!
That'll be the sound of the rush
Of people moving off XP and onto W7 before April.
In a large corporate, we have to realise that not everyone who uses a computer will have the skill levels we all have as IT Pro's. It may take us a couple of hours to get used to it, but many regular joe users will find Win8.1 daunting unless you give them lots of hand holding. WinXP to Win7 is less of a leap from a user perspective and allows a business to (I hate this phrase, sorry) have a "quick win".
Once Win8.1 becomes popular in the home environment - self 'consumer' training, and people are used to it, it will be an easier process in the corporate environment.
IMHO Win8.1 is very nice (Am typing this on it right now) but there are some very quirky problems with it due to the consumerisation of the OS. Such as it asking for Windows live accounts even in a corporate environment and the metro apps problem.
So - until Microsoft fix the own-goal apps issue (Metro apps can't use authenticated proxies like Microsoft's own ISA or TMG due to them using the WinHTTP stack rather than the WinInet stack - it is a known bug and was meant to be fixed in 8.1) most large corps will stick on W7 rather than get a deluge of calls saying 'it doesn't work'. Putting in a non-authenticated proxy isn't an option btw :)
Excellent article and really brings back some memories. Cheers!
They totally missed the boat
I remember in 2008 doing a direct comparison between an iPhone 3G which I had just got, and a Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic which one of my friends had.
He said 'Have a look at this, I can play iPlayer on my TV from my phone'.
Correct - he could, but it was shocking quality. Really blocky, very bad quality, very poor frame rate.
I then pulled out my apple AV cable and did the same thing via the iPhone. Perfect SD quality video without any issue, and then when the HDMI cables came out, perfect HD quality via the old iPhone 4.
And that was the simple thing - Nokia's devices were a briliant phone that happened to do things like data or video, but badly.
Apple made a device that was a computer and media content device first, and a phone second. And was easy to use. We all know how sodding bad an iPhone is as an actual phone. It's pants - drops calls all the time and much of the time will sit without ringing and then popping up a notification for a voicemail from the call you never got.
But maybe that is what people want now - a computer with apps in their pocket, not necessarily to make calls on it so much - you only have to look at how tariffs have changed to have unlimited voice and texts but limited data to see how the telco's have spun things 180 degrees.
So the only way that Microsoft / Nokia can get back in the game is to grow the apps side of their business. That is what keeps Android and Apple going.
Yep, confirmed. They've been Loudness War mastered, or 'Mastered for iTunes' if you like.
Re: 500MB hard disk eh?
The Mac Mini's come with a HDMI to DVI adaptor in the box - http://www.apple.com/uk/mac-mini/specs.html
It's pointless for the UK market
As with all Apple things, they seem to fixate on the US market and Apple UK obviously don't have any way of pushing stuff we like over here. So it'll be an Apple iTV with Netflix and iTunes vs a SmartTV with iPlayer, 4OD, Lovefilm, Netflix, DLNA etc.. etc..
I have an Apple TV 2 and it's OK - but it desperately needs the proper UK TV catchup services to be a big seller in the UK and with Apple it's unlikely to ever happen.
Re: Cable Cuts
The phrase that pays is 'Assured Seperacy' - and talking nicely to the Openreach planners when they come to do the surveys.
I think the IT director of DSG will probably be looking at a P45 tomorrow as the amount of money they'll have lost will have dwarfed the amount they would have paid for a proper diverse internet link.
And why don't they have a load balanced Business Continuity hosting site elsewhere in a data centre in case this happens?
But if you want a proper airplay solution, surely a nice set of small Monitor Audio speakers, even a basic Cambridge Audio amp and an Airport Express as the Airplay device would sound 1000% better than any of these one box solutions on test, and potentially cost around the same?
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