41 posts • joined Monday 13th February 2012 21:37 GMT
Re: Yep, I agree
"How about how did your upgrade from Winmo7 to 8 go? "
WinMo stopped at 6.5...
I don't see what your point re WP7 upgrading to WP8 is. What is the point in baking features such as NFC into the WP7 settings and confusing people when NO WP7 phones support it?
WP7 is currently sitting at WP7.8, the look'n'feel of WP8 but without the hardware requirements.
How many first gen iOS or Android units support all of the features of the latest OS?
"The apps from IOS1 work fine still, no more money, these Windows CE ones don't seem to...."
WinCE (ARM) apps still work on WinMo units, they were never designed to work on Windows Phone. Most were written before WP even existed. To date I have not come across a WP7 app that will not work on WP8. The vast majority will work on WP8 but wont be able to take advantage of the newer hardware features of WP8 (eg NFC). There might be a couple that won't work properly, eg those that make calls to the FMradio class.
Your iOS1 app example is also flawed, many developers will not allow you to download older versions of apps that will run on older versions of iOS.
Re: Laptops and Notebooks
Sorry Bill, a typo on my behalf, I intended to say back in 2010 and not 2000.
Re: Laptops and Notebooks
Pixel Chromebook aside, I concede that MBPs have the highest resolution screens but that has only been the case since summer last year. Prior to that the MBPs had relatively low resolution and poor graphics.
To suggest that any given firm has the "best" anything all of the time is silly. When I got my Vaio Z11 in March 2000 it blew the 13" MBP out of the water (and continued to do so for 2 years).
Indeed it is probably fair to assert that others (of late) copy the look'n'feel of apple. In and of itself, it does not follow that Apple's approach is better, perhaps it is just an indicator of the fact that the press (present organ excluded) wet their pants whenever apple release or copy something else If apple were original I might sympathise with the tone of your comment but to date all I see is apple claiming to have invented something and the press reporting it as fact without bothering (read:wanting) to double check
The most I ever paid for a phone was about £800, it was largely made of plastic and assembled by Samsung (on behalf of B&O).
At £800 it was not a luxury phone where as at £15 000 I would assert that the Vertu is a luxury phone.
How much does an iPhone cost, what percentage of the shell is titanium?
Re: Dear Microsoft
And which vendor has 800,000 tablet specific apps?
Re: @AC 7:54
I agree with you.
The fanbois seem to have forgotten that before the iphone there was Windows Mobile and not just BB and Symbian.
I could do far more on WM than one can on iOS and indeed more than on WP.
Some of those features were removed by MS for fear of upsetting Apple. I can't click on phone numbers in websites anymore, why? I could in 2004 but seemingly Apple decided to patent it and MS and Apple have a "let's be friends" clause.
The sooner Apple piss of back to the wilderness the better.
Cyclonic dust extractors already existed. Dyson might have been the first to shrink them down and market them to the masses but they didn't invent the concept.
Coca-Cola might call themselves the Real Thing but they weren't the inventors of cola beverages.
Re: Bullet proof, but not B.S. proof.
Other than multi-touch, what was significantly new about the iphone? I've had Wnidows phones since 2004, when the iphone came out I looked at it and thought "oh, that's a bit like my phone but it can't do as much as mine"
My 5" HTC Athena (pre-apple-invent-the- phone/jobs-finishes-creating-the-earth-and-dies-for-our-sins) shipped with Opera mobile which had tap to zoom. Did it also have an element of bounce? I'm too drunk/old/stooped to remember.
So Apple "refuse" to comply because without providing evidence they can argue that the plaintiffs have no proof of wrong doing?
"Sorry your honour, we are not willing to stand trial for tax evasion. The HMRC suggests wrong doing but we are unwilling to submit our end of year returns until he proves we have committed a crime"
not sexy but what do you expect at that price
I might consider this as a backup phone. Anecdotally, I suspect that a lower spec WP8 unit will be less sludgy than a droid costing the same amount.
Re: The new "Microsoft way"
"They use awful irritating tunes in their TV adverts (The Lenka video and song is just too abstract for me), "
Erm... I purchased the Lenka CD after seeing the W8 adverts. Mind you i haven't upgraded to W8 yet, I would happily but not all the drivers exist for for Vaio yet.
WRT the interface, IMO Android, iOS, WP, hell even WM are pretty easy to use. App count- largely a meaningless pissing contest but yes it is true that devs are likely to focus on android and iOS first. That said as a WP user I don't lament the fact that I cant download the latest crap being hyped via social networking sites by people that are so technologically challenged that tying their shoelaces presents an issue.
As an aside, it amazes me that so little has changed since WM2003. I used to upgrade handsets regularly as a result of hardware improvements, the processors were slow, the ram expensive/volatile. Early 2007 (pre iphone) I had a 5" screen. GPS, blah, blah blah.
What can i do now on my phone that I couldn't do back then? Very little and in some respects less. The only thing has really changed is the rise of the phone fanboi...
Re: Forced to Innovate? Good!
"Apple do actually do the camera connection kit BTW - it's not internal but you can copy files onto the device."
Yeah, iWhatevers are so perfect that you HAVE to use the kit. I had the misfortune of trying to get 3 gigs onto an ipad using iTunes. After 6 hours I had managed to transfer two thirds of the images.
Re: @Steven Roper
"Although Apple is not for me they have always done a fantastic job of making computing accessible to non-technical types"
Apple's dumbing down of computing isn't necessarily a good thing.
Re: Xerox is a business, not a religion
Apple paid to visit PARC, not to take whatever they wanted. Do you not recall Xerox trying to sue Apple (whilst apple were engaged in suing MicroSoft) ?
When I pay to go to the cinema, I do not expect to be able to record the movie, make some edits and then burn it to DVD and flog it on market stalls up and down the country.
Re: Prior Art
Would that be akin to a computer firm called apple, assuring another called apple that is in the music business, that the former would never enter the music industry.
Personally I have no problem with apple registering the leaf, but how long before they claim that footwear is jewelery?
Re: Google has trademarked their "G inside a box with curved corners"...
Apple did try to argue n court ithat a full stop is just a very short line...
What do you expect? This is the firm that tried to sue the mexican firm i-fone, even though they had been using the name before apple registered i-phone...
Apple, Luxembourg- don't think so...
"Apple sells the iTunes stuff in from Luxembourg". if this were the case then UK iTunes customers would be paying 15% VAT and not the 23% Irish VAT. Itunes customers pay higher VAT to subsidise Apple's low corporation taxes in Ireland.
Strangely google manages to charge UK vat to UK customers even though their servers are in Ireland as well
My brother, not an apple fanboi, was nearing the end of his contact. The week before the iPhone 5 was released his provider rang him and offered a free iPhone 5. It turned up the same day that people were queuing outside the Apple stores.
Had the phone been in such short supply I would have expected them to offer him one "sometime" after the release date.
Re: ANY salesman will try to sell you something that his company sells
I agree with the sentiment of your post but the Apple staff already push the over priced extended guarantee, it's called AppleCare...
Re: Called it
Did Dyson then go running to aneighbouring court and then smear Vax there and then have the gaul to boast about winning a case that legally should not have existed?
Re: Why not put the last nail in the box and leave the worms alone?
"He paid for it, Then MICROSOFT stole it. Get your history right. Its not his fault Xerox sold it cheap"
Erm... he stole it AND then was forced to pay for it.
Who needs history when you have Applefication?
any minute now
Just waiting for Apple to sue the HM Gov and the Job Centre, after all it is widely known that the Job Centre (Center?) is where apple devotees pray to their former L Ron Hbbardesque master.
I see that years after people have been making carbon fibre laptops Apple have patented the concept......
Re: Is there anything
Apple (music) did sue Apple (non-music) after the latter promised to never get into the music industry. does that count? :/
I'd rather no see MS engaging in these kind of rumours, leave that to the likes of Apple
So it's ok for apple to con people?
Sadly the fine is too low to have any punitive effect, that said, at least the public are starting to appreciate that Apple are as unscrupulous as most of the other MegaGlobal Incs..
They knew that their flavour of LTE would only work in N America but thought they could get away with spinning their yarns.
That reminds me I really must complain the to the ASA about their claim that Macs dont get viruses and that once you buy one you never need to do anything.
Kudos to the Australians, and to the Italians for showing Apple that they are not a law unto themselves.
The saddest thing is that they have to resort to lying to sell what are basically decent products
Apple didn't need a crystal ball. The fact that the USA and Canada use entirely different frequencies is common knowledge.
If you want to sell products directly in a nation state you are legally oblidged to adhere to the rules of that state. If you don't agree with the rules then let customers import your products themselves.
When was the last time you saw car makers boasting about speed?
Besides, if i tell you a car can do 200 mph, you have the opportunity to take it to suitable private land and thrash the hell out of it. If in the small print I add the caveat that it will only achieve those speeds on a fuel type found only in the USA, then I can expect a backlash..
The issue is that Apple would have been aware that the only networks that offer the correct frequencies are one US and three Canadian networks. At the time of sale NO OTHER EXISTING networks were compatible or would be for the foreseeable future.
It is akin to me claiming that I have a trampoline that will allow you to jump 200ft but omitting to say that you have to be on a planet with low gravity.
The Powers That Be have allowed LTE to be called 4G even though it isn't really.
Apple are selling 4G units in territories where they know the chip cannot connect to existing or proposed networks. They market it as having Ultra Fast internet access, it is reasonable for the lay person to assume that this is in reference to the 4g element. It is also reasonable for that person to assume that it will connect to 4G networks in their territory.
Apple decided to use two different 4G chips, supporting frequencies only used in N America. Fair enough that's their choice. However outside the USA, rather than saying 4G is not supported by all carriers they should be honest and warn customers that to enjoy 4G they will have to fly across the Atlantic and purchase a suitable sim.
They knew that calling it the new iPad wifi + 4G would result in confusion, sadly they also realised that it would lead to more sales.
To the best of my knowledge no other maker has had the front to marketed devices as 4G in areas where frequencies are incompatible.
Kudos for mentioning the 4G issue in the opening statement.
Personally I think that Apple's use of the 4G moniker is likely to backfire. Apple are aware that the 4G unit will ONLY work on Verizon in the USA and a few networks in Canada (even then, I believe that you have to use one of their SIMs, ie not via roaming). It will not work on any of the existing (or proposed) 4G networks in Europe or the rest of the world. Never-the-less they use 4G as a must have sales feature whilst obscuring the truth.
When I last looked, the only UK telco with a degree of probity was Vodafone, they don't use the 4G moniker on their iPad page. I guess they decided that the margins weren't sufficient to handle the volume of callers complaining that they can't connect to any 4G networks. Like apple, the others say "4G LTE coverage is not available in all areas and varies by carrier"- FFS- why not just list the ones it will work on, ie., not yours
Any other firm would get a right royal kicking by the press if they did the same thing. Perhaps that is why NO other maker is marketing 4G devices in the UK.
Mind you it looks as though the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission are going to fine Apple for misleading customers. Time for Trading Standards to step up to the plate..
It is refreshing to see someone sell a product without the need to slag off their competitors' products.
30 hours to fix a server- wtf
I for one and not happy with the way that they responded.
I am peed off that they failed to adequately looked after my info but I appreciate that these things happen. What has annoyed me the most is their lack of honesty.
Any one who has ever purchased from ticketwebUk got an email, even those not opted into their mailing lists. I had only ever used their service once (i purchased tickets in 2006) and was not on any direct mail list
The malicious emails were sent at 6.30 on Saturday. Some of the recipients would have been TicketwebUk IT staff.
It took them almost 11 hours to send out the warning email.
It took them 17 hours to set up a facebook message. For the first couple of hours they did try to respond to questions but admitted that they didn't fully understand if the links were malicious.
They declined to respond when asked why their servers were STILL redirecting customers to the malicious site.
It took then over 30 hours to plug the hole in their server, this contrasts with their claim (via their help pages) that they fixed the problem on Saturday.
They state that no info, including email addresses, were passed to the toads, again they are being less than honest. Anyone who clicked on the link had their email address and customer ID passed on to ticketmaster MailMaster site and then forwarded to the fake site.
There will be a number of customers that clicked on the link but did not submit their personal details. As a result of Ticketwebs misinformation they will assume that no info has been passed.on.
The attacks on other servers recently might have been more serious but at least Sony et al took their servers off line. i can only imagine that Ticketmaster continued to run servers that they knew were compromised for financial reasons.
Not a happy bunny...