39 posts • joined 30 Dec 2011
"And if they thought they might be on the hook for the $13M we had to spend, they might have thought twice about the way they approached their licensing scheme."
Wow, imagine having to pick up this bill if you lost a case! Someone might want to ask themselves if their lawyers are milking it a bit.
Re: poor telcos and device manufactuers: Microsoft + Skype + Nokia
I think you miss the point, Skype will become/remain the norm for most, and many more as I assumed it is or will be integrated into Office (Office a monopoly on the desktop).
Regarding Skype vs Hangouts: coincidentally last night my daughter and I compared Skype to Hangouts on her newish Macbook Pro with me testing both a new and old laptop running Linux, the latency delay for Hangouts was enormously slower. We also tried combinations of Chrome/Firefox/Safari. She is going overseas, and she naturally wants to use Skype which proved to be a superior solution last night anyway..
poor telcos and device manufactuers: Microsoft + Skype + Nokia
Many telcos and device manufacturers will fail miserably whilst competing for Skype compatibility etc. But seeing as the desktop/office monopoly has been allowed for 20? years, then I assume that's why this is OK too.
Has development of Skype on Linux stopped ? it is v4 on my Linux laptop, and 6 on my daughters MacBook, but fair enough I surpose, with Linux being a threat to Microsoft, .....oh but no, Microsoft are a monopoly, so surely it's not OK. I'd really love to read or hear the arguments and counter arguments used in making this decision in the EU. When does fixing a monopoly problem trump over shareholders interests? I know Xerox were fixed many years ago, perhaps totally unrelated to this type of thing.
Thanks yes thanks
Another choice in the high performance games market is good. Also more time and money is being spent optimizing and improving Linux code that benefits other uses of Linux. This is good news for most.
OpenGL is now reportedly faster than DirectX
I read that they optimised OpenGL late last year and ended up with it being faster than DirectX.
still better at making it than giving it away
Bill's not doing a very good job of giving it away is he. Not saying I'd do a better job though! I like to think he'll live up to his word, perhaps he'll end up giving 95% away but still remain the richest man. Ie not quite what I thought, marketing words!
My belief is that word went round that browsing the web was faster using firefox or chrome. The root cause being that ie was probably malware infected or just slow, but users just want/ed a quick fix. They learnt that they have a choice, at least that's what I've picked up on.
Re: XBox App?
Either way there is a solution available.
Re: "technically difficult and time consuming"
If its not for sale use the free html5 like everyone else. but everything is for sale when the price is right. Google wrote an app for apple, why should they write one for Microsoft who have such a small marketshare, what about the other companies. Microsoft clearly still can't support web standards and THIS is the bigger abuse.
Microsoft don't want to support Vp9 but they will soon, just wait and see. Many thought windows mobile would never support the caldav standard, they will by the end of the year. Forced albeit. but it is in the consumers interest, as is the inevitable support of vp9. I think you re wrong about the royalty free codec being revoked or revokable in the future. either way, if it helps break Microsofts 30 year stranglehold further, then that's good for consumers too.
Ha ha, and how exactly could they try to block libreoffice? They can't.
yeah go zx81 metro
I just want a zx81 style keyboard on your mobile with a crt. Each of those keys did 5 or 6 things AND had better tactile feedback. Not sure if id have a screen on both sides though.
I rarely lock my car, one of my friends has never locked his car in 30 years. I suppose one day it'll bite, but not lost anything yet. Have lost money after locked house breakin and hotel room theft so i know how rotten it feels. I don't leave piles of cash and iphones in my car.
SR-71 some planes are so cool
Saw the Blackbird at Duxford, by the time we got to the 6th hanger that houses it my wife wanted to divorce me and the children were lying on the footpath wanting to go to sleep. But I had a great day out, my day. Got photos of the children standing in front of it, poor sods looked so bored. Hopefully they appreciate it now. better do. Blackbird and Concord 2 cool planes to watch takeoff!
And when various departments choose to not use Microsoft do they get a rebate?
If not, why not, this should be catered for for transparency. e.g. netbooks, and now tablets and smartphones.
So how much are they paying? Simple: ask for an open tender next time
The Ministry of Education (MoE) in NZ initially wouldn't disclose how much tax payer money they were spending on Microsoft. So they were asked to do an open tender next time, they did, the MoE paid Microsoft $30,000,000 last time, WOW that's just the MoE, in an incy wincy country. Based on extensive experience with working with both Microsoft and open source software I am confident that if schools switched to open souce software it would save $30,000,000 with additional savings due to less support costs. The Microsoft thing is a and quite simply a lot of people are too scared or inexperienced to do what is right. Which Australian group will request to get this changed to an open tender next time?
Then when you know how much can be saved, some can then be invested elsewhere...... when you read some of the pro Microsoft comments in articles like this, it's like MS have paid staff making comments. It is true we know they pay people to do this, what's their patent bloggers name?
In my real life experience where a school switched to OO later LO they haven't looked back! That was years ago. Teachers have open minds and do accomodate change. It's how you go about it. You're actually making sweeping assumptions.
Re: Will every 0.0.x release require a 180 MB download and 10 minute installation?
Roll it out with a GP startup script, upgrades in the background, not had a problem with this yet even on the older computers.
@Jim A few months ago the LibO user menus were detidied up, looks so much better, staff at my workplace like it. It's a tool, does the job fast, smoothly and reliably.
Re: Schools should be using LibreOffice
A school my children all went to when they were younger switched many years ago, kids, teachers and admin staff, on laptops, desktops, the whole lot. That's Warrington school in NZ, they say it was better in many respects, maintain it themselves with little effort, saving on support costs. Saving money wasn' t their objective, it was about being able to do what they want to do. They're using Ubuntu. I think they got the Ministry of Education to do an open tender and worked out that the NZ govt was paying $30,000,000 a year or something for Windows, but they didn't have any success getting the $thousands back for "their" school for useful things, not yet anyway. $30,000,000 is a lot of money to be wasting for a small place like NZ.
LibO works great in our business, used with Thunderbird-Lightning
We have 200 staff using Thunderbird, have been using it for about 7 years and have never had staff asking for Outlook, for the last few years we have used the Lightening calendar pugin which hooks into Zimbra and Google etc. LibreOffice is used by many staff, not a single complaint or problem with this either. If you open your eyes quite a lot of businesses are doing the same too. I think quite a few comments are from people who are locked in and possibly not in a senior enough position to lead the way out, or trolls, or thick.
LibreOffice still ahead of Microsoft in so many ways
We use a mix of LibreOffice and a couple of versions of MS Office, LibreOffice was so easy to rollout throughout our corporate using a single GP startup script. Iit is very easy to maintain too, with reguar new features and updates we can easily add them whenever we want to, no licensing issues... yawn.
We now use LibreOffice on our biggest documents and some spreadsheets without encountering any problems, indeed the reason it is being adopted more widely, is that whenever MS Office has problems opening their own files, LibreOffice is used and has so far always succeeded in a good recovery. It looks so much better than it did 6 months ago too.
We have largely escaped the vendor lock-in risk... Looking back it's funny to see how often Microsoft break or doesn't include functionaliy until years after the competition has done so, purely trying to keep locked-in customers locked-in. You see it so much more when looking back! Of course it runs on other OS' too. Hmmm we could convert our hundreds of computers to Linux now!
Re: This would be good
The Motorolla Atrix 2 smartphone, now about $300 has a dock with HDMI, 3*USB, 3.5m speaker, not sure what resolution you get. But try getting one if you don't live in the world, I mean USA. Also each time I look at Motorolla's website it's different, can't see the dock today. Some websites sooo annoying to use. Do many other smartphones have HDMI and docks?
the Ubunt phone interface is really good
if you want to see it watch the video http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Re: Linux' showing
I agree >1% is a bewilderingly massive amount of people who have installed another operating system, or rather gone out of their way to NOT use Windows! Especially considering so many businesses have locked themselves into the proprietary Microsoft systems. It is getting much easier to break away from the lock-in now.
How famous can a real person get?
Most people all over the world can't remember the names of the Egyptian and Greek Gods etc. But they all know Neil. In 4000 years AD they'll still know Neil. I wonder how many people will know that guy Jesus that so many worship today, even though the year is linked to his death, I think.
Neil was a very special man. It should have been me, but they wouldn't send 2 year olds.
Re: Need a suitable email footer
So your preferred business model if you had to do this would be to send ODF attachments to all and sundry and wait for them to complain, if they can be bothered, I think that would be a bigger problem? Which really is the lesser of the 2 evils? (question directed at other readers)
Need a suitable email footer
Office 2013 cannot save as ODF 1.1 it only saves as 1.2, and fair enough too; However, Office 2007 and 2010 will only open ODF 1.1 not 1.2, I wonder if this be addressed, needs to be.
Either way, if I use ODF 1.2 in a business environment, then ideally outgoing emails with ODF files attached will need text appended saying: "If you cannot open the attached OpenDocument/s please upgrade to Microsoft Office 2013 or for a possibly better result you could install OpenOffice.Org or LibreOffice, for other office productivity suite options see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software"
But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software is too confusing. Has anyone got anything better actually in use?
What a mess. Out of interest, can Writer in OOO or LO Open, Edit, Save PDFs?
Thunderbird works great for our 200+ staff
I hope the updates keep coming for Thunderbird in a timely manner. It is a great product and has plenty enough features. Thunderbird works great for our 200+ staff, a couple of dozen staff also use the Lightning plugin. We use a Zimbra backend which gives us the webmail/calendar interface too, plus smartphones all integrate reliably. We have done so for many years, no rocket science required.
All for free for us too. We don't need Windows, Windows CALS, Exchange, Exchange CALS, extra anti-virus security, powerful servers, etc.
Re: People still use tape?
All your eggs in one basket? Tapes do still offer differing benefits, tapes kept offsite, some not, some archived forever, totally disconnected medium. Anyone can change a tape, anyone can check the backup log, so low maintenance too if you get organised. In most towns you will not have a problem finding one to borrow if yours breaks. HDD backups are great, we use these too. But if that's all you have, then if they go wrong, and if means it can, things could get really ugly. A friend who looks after several at various companies now insists on a complementary tape backup too, he had one run out of disk space and it corrupted itself, becoming unusable. Personally I would never have depended on a single HDD backup system in the first place.
Re: Failure to offer guidance to Microsoft?
Thanks dgharmon, at the bottom of the link someone says how symbolic the case was, "a change in the law so that they have to disclose protocols" The concept of an APIs is similar to a protocol, albeit over a short distance without a common transport (wikipedia's good isn't it), I wonder how related this is/was to the Java case that is being ruled on soon.
well it was a long time ago
Seeing as it was 8 years ago... and they do market themselves as a nice company, oh go on, let let them off, no? OK a 100 hours community service, lesson learned, no hard feelings. Now lets talk about something we need to correct in Windows 98.
I worked for a company called Spectronics Micro Systems near Cambridge 20-25 years ago, we designed and manufactured mobile data solutions, e.g. data terminals for use in vehicles such as the AA or taxis. Data messages that were long would be broken down into smaller chunks to improve the chance of them getting through, if they failed to get through the first time, they were broken down again and retried, etc. surely this is standard in all communication protocols isn't it? I wonder what the detail of the patent is.
A good purchase
Now we'll start to see more patent wrangling amplifying the silliness of software patents even further. It just gets better, the battles must get uglier and more entertaining. Wow, patent lawyers must be creaming it, but what a waste of energy, think what could be improved on instead.
What a spectacular island, about 1500 feet long by only 400 feet wide yet 1,844 ft high! All insects are a bit creepy, can't say I'd want them put back in my back yard, needs must, hope they sort the rats out.
have wallpaper appear as a door with a bolt
If the wallpaper appeared as a door with a bolt on it, that would make the patent look more silly, wouldnt it?
firefox, TB email and Lightning calendar works great in our corporate
We have used Thunderbird for 6 years since v1.5, we have hundreds of users, and as of a couple of years ago we added the Lightning calendar plug-in and connect to the Zimbra free edition, it works like a champ (not chimp). We use Firefox too, just install it onto the Terminal Servers and upgrade it every month or so, and it doesn't try to change our default web search engine either, like that fucking IE8 upgrade.
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