Re: actually quite a good os underneath... - until you try the competition

@dogged

http://www.asymco.com/2011/02/11/in-memoriam-microsofts-previous-strategic-mobile-partners/

http://www.infoworld.com/t/android/microsoft-makes-more-android-windows-smartphones-707

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Documents

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_cancer/

Not wasting any more time on this, just go and Google for yourself. Or use some script kiddie style wrapper some losers threw up around it:

http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html

From the BBC website, June 1st 2013:

"It's been 8 months since the disastrous launch of Windows 8, and the long-suffering shareholders have finally had enough. Steve Ballmer the CEO blamed for the companies biggest failure ever, dwarfing even the Vista failure of 2007, has resigned having seen the share price plummet to a third of its value at the start of the year. Not even the hastily constructed "Consumer Desktop" Edition of 3 months ago, where the unfamiliar tiles interface was replaced with the Windows 7 one, plus the return of the start menu, was enough to get any kind of significant sales moving. The dominance of Android on the handset and tablets meant users who had seen and heard all the negative press regarding Windows 8 avoided sales there too, thus compounding the problem. Steve Sinofsky, Head of Android User Experience at Google, said "the writing was on the wall all along. I wish them well, but a significant culture change is needed before any good can emerge now. And they can start by listening to their users."

Re: Surprise us all

Thumbs up from me - nice post!

Huh? To see what Apple are innovating right now, just look at any Android handset. NFC, multi user accounts, widgets, proper notifications, proper multitasking, a framework for apps which actually do scale properly to different form factors rather than fobbing off with letterboxing and err, oh yes, maps. Followed a year later by them suing everyone who dared innovate their innovation first, natch.

My wife, Clippy Metrozune, doesn't rate it much either.

Paris, for we talking of all style, no substance.

Re: .....

Fanboi alert?

The sales figures are starting to arrive, perhaps that will cheer them up: http://techland.time.com/2012/11/19/windows-8-the-seven-roads-not-taken/

Re: @ AC @ 12:42 GMT

@ItsNoteMe The FACT that you USE that fucking annoying STYLE of capitalizing RANDOM words in your POST says it ALL, buddy.

Re: Reg Readers these days...

"Microfans"? I though the name given to them had been established since it's just the obvious descriptive term:

Nokia + Windows = NoWins aka Losers

Sigh.

If only microsoft had invested the $5 per handset they extort from the Android manufacturers into some R&D instead of having to fake queues outside stores, photos it takes and "reviews" from their astroturfers infesting blogs and forums.

Isn't giving someone an iPhone just another way of saying "get lost" these days?

Re: You sir have been sucked into Apple's versions of events.

"There's still room for improvement but it's perfectly usable."

http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/post/33227341418/drives-onto-airport-runway

Re: This is so funny

"preferring to push the point the Apple products were inferior to the Android product" - what's changed? If Apple allow this, it makes it even more obvious since the users will all avoid the onboard iOS maps.

"Siri, run a shit mapping app please" - up pops iOs maps.

"Siri, run a quality mapping app please" - up pops Google Maps.

Simples.

Re: I wonder if

Perhaps there is more of a parallel here than people realise, except in Sinofskys case it was the W8 disaster apology letter he refused to sign.

Re: What if . . .

A Mitch Romney type Mormon you mean? They'd need a 1-many entity relationship manager. Then again, they're in San Francisco, so it'd need to be many-many.

Still, I find those figures *lovely* and 2013 - the year history will come to call "Microsofts year of Hell" - hasn't even started yet.

Re: Wow

Then Engadget should have been called "a bunch of absolute cretins, since microsoft don't make phones" - their business is more along the lines of wrecking the ones that do, like Sendo and Nokia, and then scarpering with the loot just before the shit hits the fan, like this asshole did, as if he thought they'd be able to fix the shite he showed in the only video of him anyone will remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRWa68MtLc

Yes, and seeing as we're talking about *all* phones, please add microsofts share. Oh, I see - it won't make any difference, sorry.

Re: Oh dear

"...misquote by the French magazine"

They actually said merde.

If he's responsible for Win8, he's damaged microsoft far more than any mere blogger could, so you get a thumbs up from me for making that crystal clear.

WTF? I use Bob every day. IE for Bob is hands down the fastest, easiest and most reliable way to surf the net, and IE for Kin the best for mobile bar none. Android users can only weep at the news you never hear of viruses for that handset. Anyway, just because *you* don't like them, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Why, I was just given a lecture here recently after mentioning WP8 market share when the ms astroturfers told me market share is no measure of quality, quoting the Sun as an example. Unlike the rapidly-ending decades of desktop OS dominance they enjoyed, for some reason.

And it's only going to get better - Microsoft Bob Cloud Enterprise 1.0 (Professional) is due early next year - we'll see who's laughing then!

Re: $25 Android pad coming soon...

"Under* estimates, of course.

@AC 11:58 I know here they both went, too. Here's the autotune version for a little variety: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_x9sAyYz-U

Re: Not surprising

Who'd have thought it - these app less, overpriced tablets running experimental, untested software which come apart at the seams after less than a weeks use aren't doing too well. Still, at least the WP8 sales figures are looking good. Aren't they?

Re: beat me to it

Its the second actually, and Steorn were the first when it comes to taking the piss too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

Re: Falling apart at the seams?

Fallapartgate has a nice ring to it, and it's great to see this picking up so much press now:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/nov/09/microsoft-surface-cover-flaw

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57547549-75/surface-tablets-touch-cover-splits-at-seam-users-gripe/

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-admits-surface-keyboard-splitting-problem-7000007189/

Re: Idiots

There was a similar thing about the Dominos staff picking their noses on pizzas, yet they somehow did a masterful job of erasing that and you can hardly find a mention of it now. I did, though:

http://www.blippitt.com/video-disgusting-dominos-pizza-employee-picks-nose-abuses-food/

Re: just pull an apple...

Seems this is exactly what they are doing now with the launch of Microsoft Reality Distortion Field 1.0. See it in action here, where they claim their lower resolution display gives a higher resolution than a, err, higher resolution one:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57534066-75/microsoft-surface-beats-the-ipad-in-display-quality/

Agreed - if he ignored the judges instructions then by definition this was a mistrial.

Re: Can't go on forever

Correct - and it would all be laughable had this nasty combination of corruption and stupidity not just cost Samsung $1bn.

Re: Can't go on forever

The patent system is preventing evil idea stealers from such innovations as chucking a stick for your dog to fetch back too: http://www.google.com/patents/US6360693

Re: It's called a DESIGN patent for a reason...

No need - just refer to its video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8pQVDyaLo

Re: Notifications

@Kristian Do these "many people in the world" include Microsofts former mobile "partners"?

http://www.asymco.com/2011/02/11/in-memoriam-microsofts-previous-strategic-mobile-partners/

Re: Spyware

Careful - you're liable to get a lecture on your life's experiences for saying stuff like that round here.

Re: Even the most brainwashed iSheep can see the pattern now

Better stock up on ammo - there's truckloads more messengers need shooting:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/08/canalys_q3_china_apple_sixth_place/

http://gulfnews.com/business/media-marketing/android-now-has-as-many-apps-as-ios-report-1.1100553

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57546777-37/bond-guru-predicts-apples-stock-price-will-fall-to-$425/

http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Android%2Cios&relative=1&relative=1

Re: Notifications

No, and the fact they aren't present shows the software is half done as they claim to be coming later. What you get now is this half-assed fail, cynically rushed out in time for Christmas in the bizarre hope someone will not mind being forced to use ee and their comedy tariffs.

It's a prefect example of exactly what Nokia pre-Microsoft would never release in a million years. Nor need to fake crowds outside stores, or fake photos to market it or flood online forums with shills in order to astroturf interest etc.