Re: PC upgrades were compelling...
Well surely Office in the car will save them? What could possibly go wrong with that? After the mandatory multiyear microsoft delay its once again something they've just begun their usual comedy catch up act with.
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You are spot on. You can smell their desperation.
Microsoft predicted the decline of the new PC market, where traditionally all their windows license sales came from. They knew it was being displaced by mobile, so someone took the strategic decision to let Blamer handle it for in the crucial decade all this was playing out. Hence they are in todays position of not only being nuked out of that market, but scrambling round to try to squeeze money from their existing PC users, because as we've just seen the number of new ones is declining dramatically. Forcing W10 down the throats of their current customers is about the only option.
In their minds they think they've tried the carrot and are just now turning to the stick. Users would disagree with the former.
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How much I've enjoyed all El Regs stories on the beast this week?
It's been epic, thanks a million..
I think there were some smart moves from Google here. For example, how on earth do you get the idea of what this is about over to the common man? It's very difficult to explain without getting into coding details. So, they brought up the idea of a food menu. Say it has burgers, fries and drinks on it. That's a generic menu - the kind of thing you see outside burger joints. Then you consider actual food using this and you have McDonalds version of a burger called a "Big Mac", whereas Burger Kings are called "Whoppers" - and the same variation for the other foods, and other burger joints. Clearly the "Big Mac" is an actual specific burger that McDonalds has invested billions in the branding and development of, and they quite rightly own every detail of it, and so do Burger King for theirs. It is, however, merely a burger.
So this is trying to claim you own this generic food menu, the result being every vendor from these global conglomerates to the hot dog cart outside your local football ground must then pay you to use. When put like that...
I wish this server would give me a lot less information about what's going wrong. I love Googling "" to see if anyone else has had this error in this situation, Googling "stuff.stuff.stuff.stuff()" let's me find the answer right away, and I'm an Oracle consultant paid £250 an hour.
What a waste. Even though there ain't half been some clever bastards behind windows mobile, I don't think microsoft employees will find many reasons to be cheerful at its demise.
@ShaolinTurbo All that, plus mobile Clippy as the UI, and I'm in.
Btw typo in orig post, of course I meant "but likely a Nokia/Samsung" ...
In 2011 microsoft were deciding whether to go with Android. They chose not to, and eventually bought, raped and murdered Nokia. They are now completely irrelevant in mobile.
There are two fascinating what-ifs around this. First, had Nokia been able to resist them, and release their own Android phone, we'd not see the massive Samsung Android dominance we have today, but likely a Nokia/Android equal split with both more than capable of innovating and delivering the quality needed to keep ahead.
The other one is Symbian. Don't laugh - this is 2011 days. Given that microsoft decided to go their own way anyway, what would have happened if they had done this but instead used the massive engineering resource they just bought to further develop Symbian to the point it had the same iOS/Android features? Would we today see the duopoly, with microsofts own at < 1%, or would "Microsoft Symbian" be a realistic 3rd contender with all the mindset, ecosystem leverage and brand loyalty that came with it, if handled right?
Oh, and Donald Trumps wigmaker.
Every day more and more legs are kicked out from under the once mighty microsoft. They must despair watching their empire crumble, even though they keep very quiet about it, for example the way it's trying to wrap up its comedy antics in the mobile space.
Who'd have thought the desktop OS market would open up again, and all entirely of their own doing.
We've seen the start of the Android Desktop releases, now there's an actual PC out. This sounds like the timeframe needed to ramp them up and refine them will match exactly the one needed for Windows 10 to die. Imagine what that'll be like when Google start pushing their own...
Mark my words. There is a piece of software coming which will send Redmond into a bigger panic than Camerons aids when he mentions he's thinking of helping rural farmers by holding a photo shoot in a pig sty. Things are not mature enough for it to be needed yet, but when they are, this is what everyone will be talking about. You heard it here first, folks. It's the Windows -> Android desktop migration suite.
What else do you expect when your entire business model consists of jumping on the latest tech bandwagon, lying to your customers and hoping they won't talk to each other so you can keep on conning the next set of mugs you deal with.
Outsourcery aren't much better, either.
All the big name IoT players are in that article - it covers things well and the upcoming battles will be very interesting.
Just to reinforce the state of the industry, when viewing it press Ctrl-F and type "microsoft".
All things considered, is Windows 10 worse than Vista?
Microsoft have said they want Windows 10 to be the last windows ever, and just constantly update it online.
Gosh, Microsoft screws up an existing installation they found to be not running Windows 10.
Thought your private files were safe? Think Different, iSuckers.
Watching their decline is like an ultra slow car crash where the camera pans round to mobile, zooms into browser market share loss, flies over cloud irrelevance as it heads for The Road Ahead of IoT which is, and always will be, a Microsoft free zone.
"And today as you can see, we expect a huge pile of shite to descend down on the good folks of Iowa from which there is no escape. Reports indicate this will happen more and more frequently as the desperation of those behind it increases. Citizens are advised to stay indoors and close their Windows. For good."
Zero innovation, flops like their overpriced pointless watch, a toxic hellstew of malware hitting them on all sides and of course the iSheep seeing the quality of these half price new Android devices.
Android is on 82% market share with Apple having the lions share of the dregs. The next interesting figures will be these during the same period.
We really did hit peak Apple a few years back when they ran out of things to copy, or as they put it "thinking different".
Paris, for she also hit her pinnacle a while ago but is experiencing more and more flops as time goes by.
I'd better correct this, for the record.
I'd always used the excellent X2GO as a remote desktop client into these machines.Turns out its just that client that's at fault. I actually upgraded a spare laptop to prove this and locally the new Ubuntu is excellent, it only loses all the user settings when I remote in this way under XFCE, and even that situation will be fixed soon as the devs of this 3rd party client are onto it.
It trashed by XFCE desktop settings - no apps in launcher, none of the custom icons I'd set up, not even the wallpaper I'd used. The same command line "do-release-upgrade" from 15.04 to 15.10 on the same machine worked fine last time round. That's why I do this in VM's - I'd suggest waiting for the dust to settle a while, or do it on something not critical.
There's as much chance of microsoft going bankrupt as there is of David Cameron asking Jimmy Carr if he fancies a quick one down the Pigs Head.
Unfortunately, the industry will be paying for the decades of brainwashing its customers suffered for some time yet. They are waking up, and know now there are better alternatives, but inertia is one hell of a powerful force.
Sums up microsofts Linux policy.
You don't fucking say.
When microsoft was hit with this but for browsers, it complied by offering users a choice of alternatives at installation time, one being Googles Chrome, which became the market leader. Now it's the same thing but mobile search on Android, so if Google can find any credible search alternatives it might well do the same.
Googling "torsorophy" might help narrow down the quality of these, and of! course! we! need! to! see! if! the! Daily! Mail! will! follow! through! with! their! threat!