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Rap chap tapped for $3 BEELLION: Apple buys Dr Dre's Beats

bailey86

Tim forgot the golden rule...

What would Steve do?

After reading Walter Isaacson's biography I would say that SJ would have spent 3 bill on making something awesome instead. Heck, for 3 bill they could have bought all their customers a pair of Sennheiser's each.

Saying that - a colleague has pointed out that Beat stuff is *very* popular with the kidz - so maybe a good money making move - but as mentioned - I don't think SJ would have liked the strategy.

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More chance you came a cropper on a UK road than bought a Chromebook this year

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Hmmm...

The anti-chromebook shills are pretty fast and furious - someone/somecorp must be worried.

I catch trains regularly and see everyone lugging heavy laptops doing spreadsheets, docs when a Chromebook would be fine. Certainly on my trains which come with cheap wifi.

My laptop (Elitetebook) and charger come to about 2.5 Kg - my HP 11 inch Chromebook uses a phone charger and comes to 1Kg. I know which I prefer to have in my backback when travelling to clients, being away, holiday etc. It's almost down to the weight of an iPad.

Good browser, Google docs - and crucially Secure Shell which gets me into servers. Most accounts, documentation, ticket systems are web based these days (or probably should be). All I'm missing is Netbeans - but if I'm using NB then it means I'm doing some serious work for a few days/weeks and I'll leave my normal laptop onsite anyway.

Sofa surfing - it makes a better (and cheaper) tablet than a tablet. Multiple tabs, wireless mouse, great keyboard. Also, mine has no fans, air ducts - sits on lap on sofa or in bed with no overheating.

School use - no-brainer. Zero maintenance, access to Google docs, Scratch and other online resources. Login to any machine with your Google account and all your bookmarks, apps, extensions, etc are all there.

And all this at £200.00.

My only complaint is mine is probably a little under powered - I went for the lightest - but I presume they'll get nippier with time.

I predict things will get very interesting.

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So long, 'invincible dreamers': Google+ daddy Gundotra resigns

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Re: "It's so good I put my name on it..."

You can add your friends using their email addresses.

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Re: The problem with G+

They've thought of that.

You can add people to your circles just by their email address. That way they get sent a link to your post. You can configure the security in different ways as well.

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gplus is great!

Thought I'd like to record a thanks for gplus. It means I can easily decide which circles see which posts, which means I can bore my family with pics of the kids, but save my friends from seeing them.

Also, gplus seems to be the go to means for techies to share posts and discuss technology subjects. Being able to subscribe to a circle for, say, Drupal, JavaScript discussions is really useful.

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GNOME 3.12: Pixel perfect ... but homeless

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Re: Another vote for XFCE

At least we have choices.

I think it's a shame that Ubuntu didn't stick to a basic default such as Gnome 2 or XFCE. Users who wanted to try advanced stuff like Unity could have added it and used it as well - or it could have been an option on the install screen.

The shame is that you need to be a slightly technical user to install the simpler desktop - it should have been that the default install should have supplied a basic desktop.

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Re: Another vote for XFCE

For reference I installed ARandR which controls the monitor setup nicely. I usually plug my monitor into an external screen at various work places - and with XRandR I can save each of the setups and apply them really easily.

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bailey86

Another vote for XFCE

Ok - so it's a clean design - which is important.

But - as important is that it's fast.

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Microsoft in OPEN-SOURCE .Net love-in with new foundation

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Re: apparently *nix desktops are worth looking at

Certain parts of ASP.NET were IE specific even when it was about version 2.x - browser repositioning being one. Also, it was supposed to be clean enough that you could just write code - but I found that anything non-trivial needed VS - which then compiled in all sorts of stuff and made deployment a nightmare.

I really tried with ASP.NET, I really did - but LAMP proved to be far more powerful and deployable.

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Microsoft asks pals to help KILL UK gov's Open Document Format dream

bailey86

Nice website for comments

Works on all browsers, tablets etc. Fast, clean design.

Built on Drupal (open source) and HTML/CSS/Javascript (open standards).

MS failed to monopolise the web with IE6 - and were forced to adopt standards used by everyone - so their newer browsers work OK. It was a fight but once MS were past IE8 they've started to play on the level playing field - and slick websites like the Cabinet Office website which work fine for all are the result.

Competition is a good thing for product quality - MS should appreciate that it helps to make them produce better products as well.

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Eight EXCELLENT languages for the fondleslab-friendly Intranet of Thingies

bailey86

Any other frameworks?

What about Drupal? It can do so much with minimal coding.

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Three-yaarrgh! Major UK mobile network's data goes down

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It was DNS wot dunnit for me

Seemed to been a DNS issue. My laptop which was connected via the phones hotspot could ping IP's etc.

Changed the DNS server settings to Googles and it was fine after that.

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You... (Sigh). You store our financials in a 'Clowds4U' account?

bailey86

Re: IT can be a pain in the arse too

As another poster pointed out. So when a outsourcing company offers to take the hated IT dept off the companies hands - and makes loads of wonderful promises about 'making people happy' - don't be surprised when the whole IT dept is outsourced.

Obviously, outsourcing is not the solution. To me we need to educate typical Windows fanbois who end up in IT depts that even though they don't like macs because ... err... whatever ... other people DO like them because they are good tools.

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bailey86

Re: IT can be a pain in the arse too

Right there's the problem to me.

'We had someone similar to yourself, that wanted they pretty toy to work and demanded we fixed it. We then "demanded" the department stump up close on £20K for the hardware and leased lines to do it....and then it went very quiet.

the problem is, people like you have fuck all idea of time and money involved in you wanting xyz. You buy your pretty white toy for £1000 and have no idea it costs £10,000 to support what you want in your little ideal world.'

IT don't like Macs - usually entrenched Windows only types - and simply can not accept that Macs are by far a better tool for many people who need to get work done.

Therefore IT throw toys out of pram and make up a huge cost (hardware/ leased lines???) as a block instead of coming up with solutions.

The staff then perceive IT as the problem - especially when their attitude is to childishly call good products things like 'pretty white toy'. The danger is that if the IT dept are perceived as problematic, childish, etc (geek myth makes this worse) so funding/help will be cut, so they have even less resources to provide solutions - and so the cycle continues.

To be honest - if the IT dept have the wrong attitude and think that they should decide what tools to use and not the workers then it doesn't matter how much funding they get.

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bailey86

Re: IT can be a pain in the arse too

RE macs - you stated 'and there is nothing that can be done on them which can't be done on any other form of PC just as effectively and usually cheaper'.

I don't think this is true - my other half is a graphic designer and her mac is a much better tool than a Windows PC. Crucially, her seven (7) year old mac book pro was working as fast after seven years as it was on day one.

And RE 'From an HR perspective, why hasn't anyone questioned why she wants to work in her 'holidays, etc'? Such times are given for resting and taking time out free from work, and are necessary to one's well-being.'

Clever answer - but the OP point still stands - IT should be helping staff to get on with their work when they want to work. We're all supposed to be flexible etc - as a graphic designer I know my OH sometimes gets things done in the evening when things have gone quiet.

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Slurp away, NSA: Mass phone data collection IS legal, rules federal judge

bailey86

Am I missing something?

'since the data was collected by a third-party'

So, as long as the US government uses third parties they can do what they like?

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No anon pr0n for you: BT's network-level 'smut' filters will catch proxy servers too

bailey86

Re: Get your ISP to confirm their intentions

Demon phoned me and said that they have no plans for filtering. I made sure they were aware of the loss of my business and all future referrals if they did.

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Get your ISP to confirm their intentions

You just know that BT is going to get this wrong - look at their issues with DNS servers over the years. What happens when our clients call up because they have hit 'unexplained' problems.

I've just sent the following question into Demon:

<quote>

Hi,

Can you please let me know what is your position on internet filtering as has just been implemented by BT.

I recommend your internet services to all companies who ask me which ISP to use - and I will no doubt get the same question in the future.

If you are going to implement internet filtering then I will no longer be able to recommend you and will need to move my current connection elsewhere.

Thanks,

$username

</quote>

Will feedback with any reply.

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Parents can hide abortion, contraception advice from kids, thanks to BT's SEX-ED web block

bailey86

Demon

I sent a policy clarification request to Demon. They phoned back saying no plans currently to implement any filters.

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IDS finally admits what EVERYONE ELSE already knows: Universal Credit will be late

bailey86

Re: Good job Iain-Duckegg-Smith doesn't work at Tescos.

Agreed about it sounding like a good idea.

In all areas of government (and life!) we should be striving for simplification, simplification, simplification.

This very much applies to IT.

I wish IDS good luck. I think his stint living in a tower block has given him some good insight.

Let's wish him luck and hope the project works.

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Inside Steve Ballmer’s fondleslab rear-guard action

bailey86

What about R2D2? He showed us the way. Or maybe not.

He was a computing unit which got plugged into an X Wing.

I see the possibility that I could have a tablet (or smartphone) which is capable of running Netbeans, Libre Office, The Gimp, Emacs, bash and have plenty of storage. Then, when I get to the office I plug it into a base station which gives me a 24inch screen, nice old IBM Keyboard and Trackman mouse, Altec speakers. Lovely.

OK - So basically I'm asking for a phone running a full OS - maybe Ubuntu ... which ... err ... hang on a minute! For those of us who like to walk any reduction in the weight of my primary device as low as possible is important.

But, there's a problem here - what if I need to work where there is no base station? (By work I mean such things many people do such as coding, Netbeans, spreadsheets, Photoshop, Indesign, data entry, accounts, review writing, creating documents, adding comments to El Reg, etc etc etc ) Or what if I want to work on my lap on the sofa? I find a laptop with a 12inch screen to be just about fine for all day work use (in my case an HP Elitebook 2540p). And this would need to run a non-touch interface (Xbuntu in my case). At that size and propped up by a book or similar I can happily work all day if necessary. (Luckily, most times when I go to a client's site to work there are usually spare monitors and keyboards around which I borrow).

Also, in fact, I prefer my (12inch) laptop (on a laptray) for sofa browsing (i.e. consuming) to our Nexus 10. Middle click to open tabs, much faster typing, much more accurate mouse, multiple desktops etc. So, I prefer my little laptop for consuming information rather than our tablet.

So I don't see everything going to touch and tablets only.

My view is that on the client side there will be:

1. Tablets, Phablets, Smart mobes; touch based, always connected, loads of apps etc.

2. Lightweight (but powerful) laptops; half kilo weight, portable, long battery life, fast slick OS, easily downloadable apps, easy connections, decent keyboard, ethernet port for sorting out network stuff. And cheap! Who likes carrying around 2k's worth of laptop when they are stopping off at the bar on the way home.

3. Much better base stations. One that greets you when your device gets within Bluetooth range - 'Hiya, let me adjust your chair and connect your device to my 30inch monitor, etc'

Thinking about it - Apple have 1 and 2 with iOS and Mac OS and their various form factors (except the price). Most (especially young) coders I see these days seem to have MacBook Airs.

Otherwise (in my case) we have Android on tablets and Ubuntu/Xubuntu on the laptop.

Conclusions from this rambling...

* Chromebook - possibly a better tablet than a tablet - i.e. a better device for consuming. Great in office/schools if all the content is web based or apps are available.

* Chromebook with Xubuntu/Debian installed might be nice.

* Apple - might be doing things right - apart from the price thing.

* You can possibly see what MS with Win8.1 laptops are aiming at. Two buttons on the start up/login screen of hybrid devices might be an idea - Do you want tablet or desktop mode? My anecdotal evidence is that users are returning Win8 PC's/laptops cos they can't get on with tablet mode.

* Maybe MS should have kept to two OS's; Windows 7 and Windows Phone/Tablet. And make devices either one or the other. Trying to combine the OS's was brave - but maybe not feasible.

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Three offers free US roaming, confirms stealth 4G rollout

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Check your coverage and your handset.

Coverage is obviously dependent on mast locations - this is the best tool I've found for checking that out:

http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/search

As for Three, I have to say that being on the one plan (unlimited data) is a huge physiological difference from a limited data plan. You just listen to music, auto-upload HD videos to Google Plus, listen to the radio, link your laptop/tablet via wifi hotspot etc etc. No checking the data used and having to phone up and but an extra data bundle.

Also, it depends on the handset.

I didn't realise but there are protocols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) in between 3G and 4G. If you have a newish handset - S4, Nexus 4, etc - it will use these protocols. On my S4 I generally get 6Mbit/s down and 2Mbit/s up - previous tests have gone as high as 15Mbit/s down 2.2Mbit/s up.

If you have a sim-only plan and are using an older handset you may not be seeing the full benefit.

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OpenSUSE 13.1: Oh look, a Linux with YOU in mind (and 64-bit ARMs)

bailey86

What about SLES?

I'd to ask those who know - how does OpenSUSE compare to SLES?

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Apple will FAIL in corporate land 'because IT managers hate iPads'

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Noy just iPads...

I worked at a site with about 80-100 staff - creatives, musicians, programmers etc - and the IT guy had set up a Windows domain for the site. He said that he had originally tried to keep everybody on MS machines. I mentioned that I'd seen lots of Macs and he agreed - he said his life wasn't easy because about half the staff were using Macs - only the office types were sat behind their standard issue PC's.

To me the problem is MS - they should make his life easier by providing tools to enable integration of Apple products. This is only going to happen more.

Later in the month he mentioned that they's taken on fourteen new members of staff - and thirteen had turned up with Macs!

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MEDIC! Google, Oracle, Red Hat docs race to save crippled Healthcare.gov

bailey86

Was this related to the Azure failure?

Seems to be a huge coincidence.

Similar to the Blaster worm and and Northeast power outage of 2003.

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Windows Azure Compute cloud goes TITSUP PLANET-WIDE

bailey86

Re: Is this problem with azure related to the obamacare website problems?

BTW - it was the 2003 power outage in the north east of the US.

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bailey86

Is this problem with azure related to the obamacare website problems?

Seems a bit of a coincidence.

A bit like when the Blaster worm was at it's peak and then power stations failed causing the massive power outage in the US.

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Where is the 'obamacare website fiasco' article?

bailey86

Where is the 'obamacare website fiasco' article?

Did I miss it?

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Windows 8.1: Read this BEFORE updating - especially you, IT admins

bailey86

You will be bored but...

Honestly guys - just install Xubuntu. It will take about 30 mins and all future updates are free and easy. Also, tens of thousands of apps are available free from the Ubuntu Software Centre.

The problem is you will have a clean, easy-to-use desktop which just sits and waits. You can run apps and do things - but the whole job of dealing with the OS will be gone - so you will be bored!

The good news is that once you've weaned yourself off the 'Dealing with Windows problems' addiction you can get on with other stuff - such as Reddit, finding the really cool sites, developing for Android, doing your accounts, etc etc etc.

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Some places will have to watch out.

Twenty PC's at 3.5GB each - 70GB total.

Fifty PC's at 3.5GB each - 175GB total.

Most broadband connections have a fair use policy and if not careful some places may exceed the allowance and then lose their internet connection.

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Cannabis can CURE CANCER - cheaply and without getting you high

bailey86

Re: Classification? By WHOM exactly???

'When the sole function of the war on drugs seems to be keeping the liquor and pharmaceutical companies in business, perhaps we should stop listening to their lies.'

And don't forget the arms companies.

After the end of the cold war they needed a new market - and the 'War on drugs' provides one. Apache helicopters and SWAT teams to pull up cannabis plants by hand - it would be laughable if it wasn't for the thousands tortured and murdered due to drugs cartels being illegal and having to sort out their trade disputes with psychopaths.

Never though I'd support lawyers but I'd much prefer such disputes to be sorted out in the courts.

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Hey banks: Use Win XP after deadline? You'll PAY if card data's snaffled

bailey86

Re: Why not release XP as open source?

RE 'Win XP has a pretty clear and well defined upgrade path'

I don't think Windows 8 will run on the vast majority of machines which are currently running XP.

And I think there is a national security issue here - after the end of XP support there are going to be millions of vulnerable PC's which will either contain sensitive information or which could be used to attack servers - so maybe MS does have a (moral/financial) responsibility to sort it out. After all, companies which create pollution are required to clear up to stop the pollution affecting others - so maybe the same for MS in this case leaving behind millions of vulnerable PC's. And to me - open sourcing XP would be the easiest, cheapest and fastest way to achieve the clear up.

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bailey86

Why not release XP as open source?

MS would gain as it would keep people on an MS product - and MS would surely gain later in server/services sales. Otherwise there will be more migrations to Linux/Macs - and once people have moved away from MS on the desktop the server side will follow.

The world would gain as XP could continue as an operating system which is supported. XP would also improve drastically - look at how much superior Mint/Ubuntu/MacOS/etc is to XP is terms of features and speed.

What I'm saying is that MS should give away the client OS as a way of keeping people using their servers and services. What they have to be aware of is a simple fact - once people have moved from Windows to MacOS/Linux they never switch back.

There are millions of dedicated MS fanbois out there and if they were given the code I'm sure they'd make huge improvements to XP over time.

Even the Linux/OS community would gain because having an open source XP would provide competition which is usually a driver of better products.

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Be prepared... to give heathens a badge: UK Scouts open doors to unbelievers

bailey86

Re: It's a good start.

You're probably right - atheism is more a belief in Newtonian physics for most people. I.e. the universe is just a bunch of stuff floating about. The problem is that people are lead to believe that we've reached the end of physics - when we have much more to find out still.

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Re: It's a good start.

Atheism IS a belief - in the Standard Model of physics.

But all you atheists out there should be aware that the standard model is far from proven - it can't explain gravity for instance. Which leads us to New Physics - and New Physics has some very strange aspects.

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Zend gifts devs with open source API wrangling kit

bailey86

Looks very interesting...

I looked at using Symfony for this purpose but it was not a good fit. I ended up using Drupal with the rest_ws module which has worked well.

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Legal bible Groklaw pulls plug in wake of Lavabit shutdown, NSA firestorm

bailey86

Re: I' not buying the Groklaw arguments - see the evidence..

Surely it's not impossible to have secure email; PGP, their own server using SSL etc etc.

I feel they've been leant on - and this is scary stuff.

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Notorious Mexican drug kingpin nabbed thanks to drones and spyware

bailey86

The arms companies must be pleased - such a massive expense to catch one man...

...can anyone explain by how much this will reduce drug usage worldwide? 20% - 30%? - LOL!

It will make no difference at all.

Now we can see why the arms industries want to keep drugs illegal - since the cold war shut down they had to find a new market. At what the arms companies want they tend to get cos we don't have enough politicians with the balls to stand up to them.

Catching this one man will make no difference to the illegal drug trade - and the arms companies will be able to sell yet more kit to catch whoever takes his place.

The sooner the prohibition on all drugs is removed the sooner this world will be a saner place.

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Continuous delivery: Can IT really 'join up' Ops and Dev?

bailey86

Is what you humans call - devops?

I'm interested in this area as I've developed a framework for carrying out continuous integration. It is currently primarily for Drupal and is currently going through a code cleanup - but it does work and I've used it at a couple of companies - it is at: https://github.com/SSVC/pullpush/wiki . Version 1.0 should be available in the next few weeks.

To me - the key points are:

* If it is small changes then tweaking the live site should be do-able - but what about large upgrades?

* Rather than pushing changes up to a live site we should pull live data down to a new version of the site.

* How easy/quick is it to roll back to a safe, known good version if a rollout goes bad.

I've also posted a blog post about another way of getting continuous integration for Drupal sites - http://www.freewayprojects.com/2013/08/maybe-we-should-use-separate-drupal-sites-for-backend-data-and-for-front-end-presentation/

As websites contain more and more data this subject is becoming more and more important.

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Google kicks off Android 4.3 updates for Nexus devices

bailey86

Will it bring apt-x...

...to the Nexus 10?

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Windows desktop VDI

bailey86

I would sort out the base problem

I would sort out the base problem which is the reliance on MS. Once you look at it you will be open to a range of slick, clean and more user friendly applications.

Of course, once you're away from the reliance on MS then there are a range of FLOSS solutions available for the hardware.

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Julian Assange: I'm quite happy to sleep on Ecuador's sofa FOREVER

bailey86

Re: the US has done it's work

'Snowden has been smart enough to avoid Wikileak, although I noticed with some amusement that Assange was attempting to ride the publicity by claiming "he'd been in indirect contact with Snowden's people". That's total BS'

Seems that it was not total BS as you so boldly asserted. So, the other statements you've made are suspect as well.

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bailey86

Re: the US has done it's work

OK.

You're making bold statements. Do you have any links to back all the points you made?

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Re: the US has done it's work

'As for technical ability: seriously? You really have no idea of some of the people on this forum..'

OK - more technical ability than *most* of the people posting on this site.

'for his own ends' - you're just assuming that.

Could equally be 'for the benefit of freedom and democracy'.

'Just don't try to sell Assange as some sort of hero'

Anyone who stands up to the full might of the good ol' US of A is certainly brave - and doing it to expose immoral acts carried out by that government certainly makes them heroic. I'm not sure how many of us would have the balls to do it.

'attempting to ride the publicity' - again that's merely your opinion.

What I'm saying is that there is a cleverly built consensus that Asssange is an egotist - where did that come from? How was it built?

'Snowden has been smart enough to avoid Wikileak' Why smart? I don't understand you. Are you saying you hate Wikileaks and would prefer it not to exist? Surely, the more ways of getting dirty secrets out the better?

And let's now see what happens to Snowden. The vilification has probably already started.

'by claiming "he'd been in indirect contact with Snowden's people". That's total BS'

How do you know it's BS? That's you assuming the worst about Asssange - why? It could well be true.

'If we really insist on the "evil" following laws and have the guilty punished, we cannot make exceptions'. I think you're saying that we should all obey all the laws at all times no matter what evil a government is up to.

What about when governments are subverting/breaking/inventing laws for immoral reasons - protecting the rich, locking people up without trial, repressing the poor, etc etc. To point out the obvious (and to prove Godwin's law), Hitler/Stalin/etc all had plenty of laws. They also cleverly invented plenty of scapegoats and fooled millions.

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bailey86

the US has done it's work

Somehow, someone who has more balls and more technical ability than anyone posting on these forums has been royally screwed over - and has been vilified and made into a scapegoat.

He did not murder civilians, he did not even steal the info. He has merely set up a system to enable us to see what a morally bankrupt political system is up to.

Ask yourself, would you rather wikileaks didn't exist? Do you think it's OK for the US government to secretly do whatever it likes - Guantanamo, rendition, regime change, police brutality, Drone attacks, Abu Grahib, Prism, etc etc etc?

We need brave people to stand up to evil - not sheep who can't see a scapegoat being set up right before their eyes.

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How Microsoft shattered Gnome's unity with Windows 95

bailey86

Ubuntu should have kept their focus

I think Canonical should have stayed focused on the Desktop and Laptop market. Gnome 2 should have been kept and just made leaner/cleaner/better.

Unity *may* pay off - and colleagues seem to like it - but I've changed to Xubuntu and this has been great for me.

If Canonical had stuck to the desktop only idea and kept with Gnome 2 they could have left Android, iOS and possibly Chrome to fight it out on the phone, phablet, tablet space.

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Drupal hacked, resets passwords after millions of accounts exposed

bailey86

Re: Are there really ....

According to Wikipedia:

'Drupal.org has a large community of users and developers, with over 913,000 user accounts and over 22,600 developer accounts (As of December 2012)'

The user accounts are for users who want to participate in the forums, post bugs etc.

The developer accounts are for the developers who have gone through the fairly arduous process of creating a module which is both substantial and passes strict reviews. They are then allowed to create modules which are uploaded to the Drupal module database.

In fact, only modules which have been created by authorised developers are allowed on to Drupal. Of course, they're not all perfect but this system does help keep the quality up.

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Microsoft tops list of software piracy nailed in UK by FAST

bailey86

Re: @AC 13:27

I think you're a bit out -of-date.

Mint, Ubuntu etc install far more easily than Windows these days. A sixty something year old friend of my Dad's found the Ubuntu install so easy that he literally couldn't believe it was true. This was after years of struggling to get Windows to do things. So he installed Ubuntu two more times and of course it just installed perfectly each time in under thirty minutes.

GIMP is very professional and works fine for my limited needs. I'm not an expert but OH is a Graphic Designer and PS and GIMP look very similar to me.

Libre Office is used by our administrator who only ever used Office before and she's absolutely fine with it. The only difference is that LO is faster. In fact, I've installed Ubuntu and LO for a few small offices and they use it fine - i.e. I don't get any calls!

I suggest you get a recent Linux distro - (Mint is a good one for newbies - although I would also recommend Xubuntu). Once you try it I'm sue you'll be amazed. Until you try it I suggest you should hang fire on comments like you've made because this is a techie's site and you're coming across as a Fanboi.

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Bill Gates: Corporate tax is not a moral issue

bailey86

Re: But they are required

Should be agreed not Angered!

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