* Posts by Don Jefe

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OHM MY GOD! Move over graphene, here comes '100% PERFECT' stanene

Don Jefe
Unhappy

Re: @Don Jefe @John Smith 19

Yeah, that bombed hard didn't it. It sounded funny in my head.

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Happy

Re: Calm down...

I know it'll get renamed something more marketing friendly if it becomes a real thing. I was just joking around because my Pauline joke died before it got started and I fell committed at that point.

The part about scientists getting screwed because they often have trouble positioning their work is true though.

Don Jefe

Stanene? Really, stanene? I don't care if it converts oxygen into platinum, I don't want to design anything with stanene in it. Scientists the world over are terrible at marketing, how are they going to license something with a name like that?

"Intel processors, now with 50% more stanene." It sounds like an antiperspirant commercial from the '50's.

But seriously, someone in science really should address the whole marketing thing. So few of scientists present well and it leads to talented researchers not getting their fair share of the credit and inferior research getting pushed to the front of the pack because somebody is pushing it. Plus, stuff like this happens. Stanene. Christ.

D-Link FINALLY slams shut 'Joel's backdoor'

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Craigslist

Joel Backdoor sounds like someone you'd find on Craigslist: 'Lonely med student looking to meet new people. If you're into broken glass and recycled hydraulic fluid hit me up. Extra points for sombreros and amputee furries'.

EC trade secrets plans: Infringing kit may be DESTROYED by order

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Re: "Patent protection expires"

Jesus. That's really fucking short sided and (willfully?) ignorant.

A patent is your compensation for adding your knowledge to the overall body of information as opposed to keeping it a secret. The entire system is built around the idea of derivative work. That's what prior art is, a starting point from which you can develop other things. The system encourages you to take parts of previously patented things and recombine them into something new.

Your 'derivative works' argument was laughed out if court over 100 years ago. It was stupid then and it's stupid today.

Don Jefe

Re: Scary

A big problem at the USPTO is that 85%+ of the staff are generic lawyers. There used to be a strong industry practitioner element within the agency, but they've faded away over the years. The worst part is that those lawyers are mostly the shitty ones who couldn't find private sector work after the bar. All that wrapped together is a disaster.

But the judge/jury part has always been the case. The USPTO is not, nor has it ever been, the supreme arbiter of uniqueness. Being granted a patent absolutely does not guarantee your thing is original/unique. A patent means the agent reviewed their pre approved information sources and didn't find anything overly similar. There are no warranties, express or implied, when you receive a patent. The judge has always had the final say.

Don Jefe

Re: Seems ok

I've always loved that line about companies needing stricter IP controls to recover R&D spend. Any time you hear that bandied about it's either coming from a lobbyist or from some dipshit who has no idea what they're talking about.

Research and development is always an NRE. You spend the money and it's gone and you have no intention of ever recovering it. R&D costs are their own thing and aren't figured into any non-R&D segment of the business. If the costs of R&D were figured into product pricing or core operations it would cost you about 1.5 unborn children every time you upgrade your mobile phone.

Don Jefe

Re: "My invention"

Patent protection expires and gives anyone interested the ability to reproduce your 'thing'. Patenting something can also expose parallel internal processes that your competitor doesn't need to know about.

Some things are good for patenting, but lots of things have more value as secrets. Secrets tend to hold longer term value better and serve the wonderful purpose of acting as a ridiculously expensive barrier to entry. Good industrial secrets can be reverse engineered to a point, but once you cross that point you're basically flailing in the dark and throwing tremendous resources at something that you can't actually verify as an accurate reproduction.

Things that change quickly are good things to patent. You're squeezing as much value as you can out of your 'thing' before the goalposts move and your thing no longer has value. But other things, like I mentioned in my first post, don't change very fast and a patent would greatly reduce the ultimate value of your thing.

Lastly, patents do not provide protection for your ideas. Patents provide a mechanism to pursue alleged infringers. It's expensive, time consuming and rarely worth pursuing. The ginormous settlements you occasionally see in the news are extremely uncommon. If you cover your legal fees and get a licensee out of the deal you're lucky.

Don Jefe
WTF?

Re: State Protectionism

What? Trade secrets are what make of businesses go. Patents are actually a fairly rare case, the vast majority of businesses will never apply for or receive a patent.

For example, we do quite a bit of work with titanium and its alloys. I have several patents on various activities related to working with Ti, processes I developed at fairly significant cost to myself. I felt that the entire industry could benefit from that information and the licensing provides a nice income stream.

At the same time, I have developed processes for working with Ti that give me large competitive advantages for the core business. The money I make from those processes far outweighs any financial gain from patenting and those processes will still be making money long after a patent would have expired. We're the only people that provide those secret services and customers come from all over the globe to take advantage of them. Get your own clients.

Why should I have to give up my secrets? It was my financial investment and my expertise that made those things possible. Why should a competitor get those things free? Let my competitors send their leaders off to school for 11 years and let them spend a few million of their own dollars developing experiment after experiment that ultimately fail before they get it right. Let them comb the planet in search of the high caliber engineers, materials scientists, chemists and precision machinists.

My expertise. My money. My staff. My invention. My advantage. Fuck sharing that. Even for a price, just fuck that, my secrets aren't for sale or for sharing. If you want some secrets go get your own, don't be expecting to get mine.

Fat-walleted execs? Nope, it's a corporate tax swerve that REALLY ticks Brits off

Don Jefe

Nobody wins in a race to the bottom, especially the countries willing to cater to bottom feeders. It's ultimately bad for everyone. Your 'economic facts' are terrible things for an economy.

Negotiating preferential deals for one off job creators is one thing, that's perfectly normal. But adjusting State scale economies to suit a handful of commercial interests is madness. By continuously reducing the private sector tax contributions to get companies you're catering to the most undesirable sort of businesses.

Any company you did attract is only there because the tax rates are low, but that's not going to stop them for lobbying for more reductions. By starting off low you've already surrendered your leverage and you'll have to give more to keep them. They'll also want infrastructure improvements but you've got no money to make those investments. So again, they've got you over a barrel. You're going to have to acquiesce to their demands or they'll threaten to leave and they'll turn your citizens against you out of fear of losing all the jobs that were created.

They'll keep making demands and you'll keep meeting them and one day you'll wake up and realize the company left anyway, off to strangle another country. So you've lowered your income and the companies you did it for are gone and now you've got to raise taxes back up to where they were before you started the mess. It's an untenable political situation.

Instead of catering to the undesirable types of companies, government should create value worth paying for. Giving away value isn't the road to stability. If your primary selling point is price you'll never get ahead. Somebody can always do it cheaper.

Don Jefe

No, no they wouldn't come to you. But let's pretend they did. What's the point in having them in your country? If they came just because one set of laws changed, they'll leave as soon as somebody else offers them something more attractive.

It's a race to the bottom and only the consumer gets screwed as they absorb the costs, through taxes and utility rate increases, of upgrading infrastructure to support the businesses. They came to you because they didn't have to give back to move to your country, but you've got to give to them or they'll leave again. It's kind of like letting your girlfriend sleep around and paying for her drugs, then marrying her and signing a pre-nup that gives her lots of your stuff then being surprised to find she's screwing all your buddies and they've been paying her too. It's just a bad deal.

People get scared that businesses won't do business with them if you don't cater to their desires, but that simply isn't true. We're talking about the greediest people on the planet. If there's a dollar to be made they'll take it. Don't think for a second they won't.

Besides, paying taxes is built into the business. Getting out of some taxes is a bonus. They already planned on paying taxes when they started doing business in your country. Not having to is a laugh all the way to the bank. Lowering tax burdens is why CFO's get massive bonuses. That money was already allocated to tax and if you don't have to spend it then bonuses all the way around.

Solar enthusiasts rays idea of 'leccy farms on MOON, drones

Don Jefe

Indeed, the inmates do seem to have snuck out. I recommend you return now. If they have to put you back in the straight-jacket it'll have them in a really bad mood. Staying out is only making your situation worse.

Don Jefe

The roads in the UK I know nothing about, but every single other item on your list was piloted and underwritten by governments. Big outside investment eventually came along, but only when the technical issues were understood and governments had agreed to assist with governmenty issues.

Railroads in the US were only partially funded by private investors, and then only when the government made the property issues go away, overlooked insanely bad work conditions, funded 'work ships' full of Irish and Chinese disposable labor and used the army to move the pesky Indians out of the way. The government also completely underwrote the expansion of steel mills and saw mills and timberland purchases for track building. The mill owners committed to certain quantities of output and funded the labor, but the capex was 100% government.

Even the SpaceX project is only feasible because they've got a financial commitment from the government as well as 60 years of government funded research to build off of as well as guaranteed loan underwriting at great rates (you didn't really think Musk was risking his own money did you?) If the project succeeds it'll only be making incremental improvements to existing, proven, processes (cool yes, but without government subsidies it would never happen). The project being discussed here is hugely unique and will require unbelievable amounts of never before tried infrastructure.

Now, I'm the first to say governments everywhere are the single most inefficient organized bodies on the planet, but they are also the best suited to absorbing the costs of huge programs that benefit all of society. It's actually what governments are designed to do, gather resources and redistribute them where the greatest good can be had. I am not saying they currently redistribute those resources the best way, but programs like this is what they're structured to do.

I'm not a huge fan of most government activities, but at the same time it is foolishness to ignore the massive contributions they make to big projects. Everything from the research of the core principals to subsidizing the infrastructure is taxpayer funded and has been for a very, very long time.

Don Jefe

The technical challenges aren't the issue. The funding is going to be what squashes this idea. That seven year ROI as part of their funding pitch is going to be really hard thing to ignore. That's a perfect world, pie in the sky kind of pitch that startups use all the time and they get mad if they can get funding. It's highly unrealistic and a bad sign of managements capabilities. Investors would rather hear about the big challenges and how you plan to deal with them, not about how great it will be if everything goes exactly according to plan.

The actual science involved in beaming power from space is beyond me, but building things to accomplish never before tried things isn't, that's our business. The realities of building things from scratch, especially things that go into space, are really, really expensive. Even companies that regularly put things into space fudge in 2x+ R&D because they know it'll all go pear shaped several times before a rocket ever touches the launching pad. If you aren't a space regular the problems are even more expensive.

I hope they can get this to work, I really do. But the truth of the matter is this is a perfect project for a government to be funding, not private investors. Governments are the only organizations that can absorb the massive losses in proving a concept, private money really isn't well suited to extremely expensive pilot programs.

Fancy Kim Kardashian's ... nose? 3D bio-printing boffin can help

Don Jefe

I like scientists. I'm married to one, and I greatly respect the disclipline required for quality research as well as their willingness to take career limiting/ending risks to devote everything to a project.

That being said, some scientists are awfully stupid. It's like they've never seen sci-fi movies or read the books. How do you grow up to be a scientist without spending at least some of your youth lost in those stories? I'm just a big dumb engineer and even I know that every fucking time scientists start dicking around with 'stem cells in a suspension' and using machines to create tissue it goes horribly, horribly wrong. Just so wrong.

Mark my words, someday a bunch of scientists wil be hanging out getting stoned on lab chemicals and some goofy mishap will see radioactive dinosaur DNA (they've got that in all labs) fall into the 'stem cell suspension' and the next thing that gets printed will morph into a science super monster that'll eat the hell out of an entire small town before some super secret government agency captures it and keeps it alive for study. Effeciently setting the stage for the sequel.

Dumbasses. How can they not see this?

That toolbar you downloaded is malware? Tough, read the EULA

Don Jefe

Re: Mechanic

Who changes your oil for free?

But yes, toolbars and all that crap are horrible inventions.

Don Jefe

Isn't this akin to your mechanic using your car at the racetrack when he was only supposed to be changing the oil and keeping the purse if he wins?

Amazon floats 'Prime Air' drone delivery plan

Don Jefe

It simply isn't gentlemanly conduct to rob FedEx trucks, there's a Human on board who could be injured by accident. An unmanned drone is an entirely different thing though. I see no problem with knocking them out of the sky and taking their cargo.

They won't be flying high enough to be overly concerned with where they land, should be safe. I suppose one could chase a drone down with an R/C aircraft and force them down as well.

Meet the cluster teams: Mass Chowdah and Tennessee Volunteers

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UTK ('K' is for Knoxville) is where I did my undergraduate studies. Good school, great town. It also made my transition to ORNL easy as it's all in a fairly small area and everybody knows everybody. Those were good times.

Just thought I would share. It isn't very often you hear about the school (or even Tennessee), ORNL or any of the other science and tech goings on in that little corner of the world.

Recommendations for private cloud software...

Don Jefe

Put together a spec of what you really need* and send some RFQ's around for a simple custom application. Rolling secure FTP into a simple application isn't crazy complicated and shouldn't cost much or be much of a maintenance burden. Providing it to the people you're doing business with is also a great value-add (I actually hate that term, the fact I typed it means I've been listening to too many proposals lately). You're making it easy to do business with you!

Alternatively you could just do SharePoint. We use SharePoint here, and it works just fine, but it's expensive and apparently difficult to deal with because every time I ask for something our little IT group gets grumpy, and it's not just the standard IT people grumpiness, it's actually a pain.

*I would not go shopping the job out and tell them you wanted to emulate DropBox and add regulatory compliance. They will send you a proposal with many, many zeros in it and your boss will forever think you've got your head in the clouds (ha!).

Why a plain packaging U-turn from UK.gov could cost £3bn a year

Don Jefe

Re: Advertising in the air

They add compounds to keep the smoke lower to remind others to smoke? What??? That's dumbest fucking thing I've heard in months. Obviously you aren't a smoker and know nothing about the subject or addiction in general.

A smoker is reminded they need to smoke by the fact they are awake. I've been 60' underwater in full dive gear trying to figure out how to smoke while submerged. You sure as hell don't need 'smoke engineers' on staff, that's a ridiculously stupid waste of money. The smoke hangs like it does because it's heavy in particulate content. Set a rolled up newspaper on fire, it'll do the same thing.

You're obviously anti-smoking, that's cool and I respect that. But you're driving your cause backwards when you say incredibly dumb things like that. Your statement is easy to falsify and you lose all credibility on the subject if you fail the basics that hard.

Don Jefe

Re: Lies, damned lies . . . and what was the other one again?

It's always really easy to tell when laws are passed with absolutely no knowledge of the people they are aimed at. Nobody goes up to a retailer and selects their first cigarettes after a review of packaging: "I really like the traditional look that the narrow serif fonts create on this package. Combined with the use of flat colors and creative framing of white space with simple linear shapes makes this the brand for me ".

The fact some people think that's how smoking works is hilarious to me. Every smoker has a 'getting started' story and you won't find any who just strolled into a store with the intention of trying a cigarette then deciding which cigarette to choose based on the package. Once you're at the purchasing your own stage you've already been smoking and you're going to buy what you've already been smoking.

When little Timmy gets busted smoking and rats out the 7-11 clerk it's just because he didn't want to rat out his buddies or your nutty sister/brother, etc... Timmy's been smoking for a while before you ever catch him and he's smoking what someone you know is giving/getting for him. It has exactly nothing to do with the package. The fact you think it does means you've just been out maneuvered by a kid and the kid knows it. The kid is still smoking too. He's just more careful.

Don Jefe

Re: Could try harder

I'm sure they would if governments would lower the minimum sales prices accordingly. It's insane to expect any company to pay more to deal with arbitrary laws, no matter what industry it is.

Don Jefe

Re: Hmmm

I smoke 2+ packs a day of the same brand of cigarette as the first cigarette I ever smoked. Over all the decades since I've given exactly zero shits about the package they came in. If there was a way to care less than zero that's how much I would care.

When I lived in Canada I used to collect all the graphic warnings and stick them to the refrigerator because I wanted the whole set. The only time the packaging has had any relevance at all is if I'm in a foreign country where I don't speak the language. I just show the clerk what the pack looks like.

I didn't start smoking because of the packaging. That's always been the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. Does any significant portion of the population buy their regular consumables based on packaging? No. I buy the brand of toilet paper that my ass likes and I buy the brand of toothpaste my mouth likes and I buy the brand of bourbon my wife hates.

Cigarettes fall into the same category as any commodity consumable which is widely available and nobody knows anything about nor is any information provided about. From tampons to cologne to toothpaste to gasoline to crayons to dish soap and cigarettes the overwhelming majority of people buy the same brand as their parents (my parents didn't smoke. I started smoking the same brand the girl I wanted to sleep with smoked) and if that's not available it's a crap shoot. You buy a random product based on some wildely illogical premise you created on the fly and if it doesn't work as desired you buy something else.

Its been pretty well established that smokers will be smokers if parents don't step in and put a stop to it. Smoking decline has stopped in most countries and is on the upswing in some demographics. Like so very many other things, smoking falls under the parenting heading, nothing else. Nobody really likes that though. It's got to be someone else's fault, parents are as bad as banks at assuming responsibility.

Apple snubs discounts, sprays Black Friday zombies with gift cards

Don Jefe
Happy

Re: Not in Europe

Thanksgiving has none of its original connotations in our post-agrarian, post-religious country*.

The holiday is nothing more than a traditional harvest festival, we just invited some Indians from friendly tribes, who were also our preferred trade partners, to celebrate with us and sample the goods that will shortly be available for purchase from your nearest White Man.

It was also the time when the Christian settlers, who were stuck in a wilderness land less developed than South America at the time, did a whole lot of praying that they'd get through the winter without having to eat their children. In the earlier years there was a genuine desire to 'share Jesus' with the friendly savages. At that point Jesus wasn't being used as an excuse to deal with inconvenient things like other people who had something you wanted.

But just ignore the Indian part, that's too big and complicated and as far as the holiday goes they're irrelevant. Time passed and beginning in the early 20th century the holiday was largely the same as it had been in the 18th century: Harvest food and Jesus. After WWII however Thanksgiving began morphing into the celebration of intra-clan struggles for dominance and conveniently packaged traditional foods.

The end of the war brought mobility to families as well as the beginning of our permanent separation from the production of our food. As travel to Grandma's house for the holidays grew more common people began to do more shopping there because the different stores offered a different selection of holiday gifts plus Grandma was there and could kick in some extra money to get little Timmy a really great gift. Over time this became tradition even though we no longer needed to make a road trip to get good gifts. Everybody went shopping the day after the feast.

The Indian narrative was rolled into the core of the story in the 50's as children were already disconnected from the harvest and cultural phenomenon made cowboys and Indians popular subjects. You couldn't get the kids attention with lessons on colonial food hybridization techniques to increase yields in new soils and climates. Seeing as how we still didn't teach kids about what we did to Indians they just became a selling point for a history lesson.

Therefore, you can go shopping on 'Black Friday' with a clear conscience, knowing the holiday has always been driven by commercial interests. You are celebrating plentiful food for the winter and the opportunities for commercial gain just like the original settlers. Going into a store and buying something at Thanksgiving is historically correct. Only the products for sale have changed and Jesus isn't so big a part of it anymore. So if you thank a farmer for your food you've covered all the historical bases and can continue your month of commercial celebration with a glad heart.

Don Jefe

Sales are good for a lot of things, especially ditching inventory during the last seasonal purchasing period before all the shiny new kit is unveiled in January. Retail thingamajig sales tank in February partly because people are willing to wait a little bit for the new stuff they've seen in the press.

If you're outside the normal industry product release schedule (like Apple) and you don't have insanely high levels of inventory rotting in the warehouse there's little point in having a big sale.

Sales aren't an altruistic offering by the manufacturer/retailer you know. They've got to get something out of the deal and the bargain hunter doesn't make for a good customer. There's no advantage to selling them a popular product at a cut rate price because you'll never see them again. If they take excess inventory it's a win-win for everybody, but it doesn't work that way with top-shelf product that already has velocity.

Assange flick The Fifth Estate branded 'WORST FILM OF THE YEAR'

Don Jefe

Re: Media saturation?

If you overlook the whole rapey thing and the fact that he's trapped in a tiny building, I'm still not convinced there ever was a story there.

If Assange had been a journalist and had published this info he'd probably win a few awards and his checked baggage would always be getting lost. The whole crux of the narrative is that somebody outside the regular channels published a bunch of 'sensitive' information. That's it. The story couldn't have been less exciting.

The only thing Assange deserves credit for is being able to keep his name in the public space for so long. That's really a hard thing to do, especially when you aren't somebody people are really interested in. It was inevitable he would end up in a tight spot as to maintain interest his stunts had to grow progressively nuttier and you can only ride that wave for a short time before you're washed up on the beach.

Don Jefe

Re: coming to netflix...

You know, you've actually hit on a good idea. Netflix should have a 'Critically Lambasted' or 'Genuinely Awful' category. Some of the funniest things and/or interesting ideas are hidden in terrible movies, but it's too hard to go looking for them, too much selection. A reverse star rating system would be nice.

REVEALED: How YOU PAY extra for iPHONES - even if you DON'T HAVE ONE

Don Jefe

Re: I just don't understand this "sApple" craze.

I was simply trying to point out that what you see as Apple customers getting screwed is no more valid than someone's (mine) unfounded assessment about your employer and their customers being screwed by your performance. I have no idea if you are a good employee or not, just like you have no idea if a consumer feels screwed because of their purchase.

I understand the size of margins very well. That's why when I got the chance I got out of OTS box shifting and went into a field that actually has large margins. That couple hundred dollars a unit stuff is great for starting a career, but unless you're an Apple who gets lucky for a while it's just too much work.

Apple is having their moment in the sun and people are lining up to lining up to throw their money at them. It's hard for me to begrudge a company for hitting on something and getting their few minutes of glory. That's what nearly every business out there hopes for. They've captured only a small portion of the addressable market and still they're bringing in as much money as their all their competitors combined.

I just don't see a problem with that, it's not like Apple is forcing people to buy their products. It's the consumer that's voluntarily throwing their money at Apple and only the consumer can determine it Apple are charging too much. Right now the consumer appears to be content with the pricing.

Don Jefe
FAIL

Re: I just don't understand this "sApple" craze.

And who are you to determine how much money a company can make? The reverse of what you're suggesting is also true. I suspect you are overpaid and the losses related to your mediocre performance are being passed onto the consumer. At what point will management get a whiff they're royally screwed?

Don Jefe

It should be illegal everywhere. Over here it's how manufacturers got around some States that passed legislation restricting MAP pricing. The slimy legal angle being that the reseller doesn't own the product while it's floating therefore can't dictate the price.

The entire MAP scheme artificially increases the price to the consumer and the worst part, in my mind, is manufacturers tell you it's to keep the value of the products higher so all the retailers can make money, but in reality they've been turning the screws on retail margins at the same time.

Computers and related accessories have always had crappy margins (compared to other non-grocery retail) anyway, but between the fixed pricing and ever shrinking margins it simply isn't worthwhile for anyone but a big box entity to deal with. The consumer is screwed on price and they're screwed on getting useful purchase information from an educated salesperson. It's pure crap.

Don Jefe

You're correct, purchase commitments at retail are near universal, but the article is overweighting the pressure from Apple, or any other manufacturer and is not paying enough attention to the insidious part of sales commitments.

When you're negotiating a big resell deal the manufacturer will have a pretty good idea of what you're capable of pushing and will toss that number out there along with other breakpoint numbers for increased incentives. As an easy numbers example lets say you've got to do $1M annual to be an authorized reseller and you'll get 30 net 0 float but if you commit to $1.5M they'll do 60 day net 0 float. If you commit to $5M they'll do 90 net 0 with 5% price reduction, free shipping and $100,000 of POP. If you commit to $10m you'll get all that and they'll agree to take 1/3 of your 'dissatisfied customer' non-warranty returns. They've already got break points custom designed for you to get you to the next level of commit.

So while the repercussions are harsh, resellers, especially larger ones, often back themselves into a corner by over committing to reach greater levels of incentives. Not excusing the manufacturers, but they manage their supply chains and financials based on those commits. If somebody falls far short it has big implications upstream.

That being said, it's almost the exact same scenario that occurred in the mortgage mess. Manufacturers are willing to let resellers hang themselves with insane commitments and resellers are far too willing to take on excessive commitments to get that better deal. As long as the ball keeps rolling it's fine, but sooner or later it's guaranteed to snowball and somebody is left holding a shitload of useless contracts.

The manufacturer (Apple) can book the committed sales and count them towards revenue and the reseller (Verizon) uses those commitments in sales forecasts that affect stock prices. Just like with the mortgage mess though sooner or later the music stops and a whole bunch of people are left out.

It's all a huge mess and personally I don't think there's enough disclosure in public company reporting and too many people have their retirements riding on things nobody outside the industry understands. Traditionally these sorts of things have had minimal risk for the average person. The retail market, while enormous, has always been so fragmented that implosions in one corner didn't impact anyone else. But the sheer scale of a largely unified retail element is a big, ultra nasty, problem that's brewing. About 2/3 of the US economy is in retail sales and the financials as a sector make housing look like an incidental line item. But it's being run the exact same way as housing was...

Don Jefe

While the financials are fairly staggering, the practice of getting signed in blood commitments with punitive clauses from your authorized resellers certainly isn't an Apple exclusive. They're using the same tactics everybody in retail (in the US anyway) deals with.

Generally if you've got territorial exclusivity on a brand name product you commit annually to purchase (x) value of product and if you don't you can buy the difference in POP, you can do the difference in Co-Op marketing, you can have a radically increased interest rate on your float or you can just lose the brand, but you still owe for your commit. Your annual commitment is increased every year until either you can't reach the goals or somebody bigger comes along and agrees to take the brand from you in exchange for taking your commitment shortcomings on themselves. Most small/medium shops jump at that chance.

It's that way with car audio, home theater, outdoor gear, boats, ATV's, equestrian tack & accessories and high end woodworking hand tools anyway. I've been in retail management in each of those industries and currently have interest in two of those categories. The commitments are brutal and if you slip up the penalties are swift. If you're forecasting a shortfall they'll let you run a short term less-than-MAP sale, but only on your current inventory, you can't order more with the intention of having a sale. Some manufacturers won't even let you pay invoices at time of order and force you to take the float so they can maintain control of pricing.

It's all a really big mess. These practices are only coming to light because they're effecting big national brands and they've got the power to get the message out, but this kind of thing is in no way an Apple invention. Small retail shops in many industries have been dealing with these sorts of things for at least 30 years and we as consumers have been paying for it for that long as well.

RIP Comet ISON: ???-2013. We hardly knew ye

Don Jefe

But was it really 20 years earlier, or had they altered the time stream again to make it appear that way?

Don Jefe

ISON isn't gone. It altered its position in the time stream using the extra energy gained from catapulting around the sun. The procedure is well documented in the documentary The Voyage Home starting TJ Hooker and Leonard Nimoy.

Sceptic-bait E-Cat COLD FUSION generator goes on sale for $US1.5m

Don Jefe

Re: A field of red flags!!

Isn't (B) the only red flag? (A) and (C) seem to be result of failing to recognize (B) :)

Boffins release 44-MEEELLION-star Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

Don Jefe

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Big Data' refer to the unstructured garbage generated by social network type entities whereas this was just a big ass bunch of very structured data?

Samsung to spend ENTIRE budget of London 2012 OLYMPICS... on ADS

Don Jefe

Re: Blithering idiots the lot of you

Actually it was Samsung who said Samsung needed better ads. I'm going to give Samsung the benefit of the doubt and go with Samsung's opinion on the matter.

Don Jefe

Re: Couldn't they just spend the 14 billion Dollars on.

Rolling your own OS is insanity if somebody else already has one that works well and is popular. Reinventing the wheel has killed more software companies than shoddy business plans and fancy office furniture ever has. It's simply bad business to take a tool that can be customized to fit your needs and toss it out.

The marketing also carries a greater direct return for a company like Samsung. They've got an enormous product catalog outside of mobile phones and every ad with their name on it increases the strength of their name and increases the likelihood you'll buy products in their other categories.

The fundamental difference between Samsung and other mobile phone manufacturers is usually overlooked in these discussions. Samsung is a titan in electronics and phones are just one category they're involved in. It's also one of their lowest profit per unit categories. Most other mobile phone manufacturers are fairly focused in their mission and will not realize the same marketing benefits a hugely diversified company like Samsung will. Every dollar spent advertising a Galaxy S4 is also a dollar spent on the thousands of other products they offer. You can't compare Samsung marketing strategies to those of a Googlrola or Apple or Nokia, they're vastly different things.

Spending the money on marketing on top of an already well received OS is going to be far more effective than creating their own and still having the costs of marketing to deal with.

Don Jefe

Why do you think people know and want iPhones? Some kind of dormant biological mechanism that Apple products activate?

Apple spend a pretty penny on marketing too. They're just more targeted in their efforts, they have to be. There's nothing in their catalog at the price points where Samsung has tons of other products. Samsung has a far, far broader user base and to appeal to that massive section of people of course they're going to have to spend more. Granted they are spending a lot more, but that won't be sustained.

No one strategy is better than the other, they're two different ways to accomplish the same ends. Just like their business models.

Don Jefe

Re: Not necessarily

Why would they be skeptical? You've been affected by a major marketing campaign and now you're furthering that same campaign. Skeptisim itself hasn't been benificial...

If you're reading product reviews you are participating in the marketing campaigns and your opinion has already been swayed by what you perceive are Samsung product issues. You've already compared at least one other thing to Samsung and now you're online talking up the advantages of not using Samsung. You may think you're doing it independently but you've been convinced to become so emotionally invested in a product that you'll participate in the marketing and do your part to turn other skeptics.

You did exactly what you were supposed to do. What the marketing campaign intended for you to do from the beginning. All the tools were handed to you and you've used them to their intended effect. It's tricky stuff. As the subject of this article billions and billions of dollars are spent every year figuring out how to get people to do what you want but feel like they arrived at the decision themselves.

Don Jefe

Re: Branding

The problem isn't Samsung being bad at branding, it's Google being better at branding. People know Android, not Samsung Galaxy S4 so much. Everybody and anybody who sells an Android based device benefits from Google's sideways data collection campaign as well as the mega dollars Samsung has to spend to change the situation.

Google could care less who is using Android, as long as it's being used. It's a fairly weird situation which you don't see very often where a secondary product is better known than the primary. Almost like people buying a set of Michelin tires and they just happen to have a Lexus attached to them.

Don Jefe

That's not remotely correct. No one is immune to marketing, even if you don't know where you fit in on the chain. The fact you've included a swipe at a particular company's offerings indicates you are not only among the more inquisitive customer, you are highly desirable as an unpaid evangelist for the product(s) of your choosing.

You've been exposed to marketing efforts from at least two companies and have chosen the product you liked best. The fact you were exposed to the efforts of more than one company indicates everyone's marketing was successful, regardless of the option you chose. The final purchase decision is sales, not marketing so someone's sales strategy didn't pan out, but everyone's marketing succeeded.

None of that to say you're weak minded or easily influenced, but to attempt to place yourself out of the reach of marketing is foolish. You're getting messages but failure to acknowledge them makes you more open to efforts which you don't recognize as marketing.

Google: YouTube fights off HUGE ASCII PHALLUS MENACE

Don Jefe

Re: anonymous charter...?

Advertisers and those who cater to advertisers (Google) aren't interested in the content of your comment. They are interested in what kind of content you're so interested in that you'll interact with a website about it.

While companies all use their own homegrown valuation systems, all those systems apply extra weight to targets who will interact with and provide content to a website. The idea being that if you are given the tools with which to to interact with and you use them, you're far more likely to click on an advertisement if they can identify the types of content you prefer.

For Google it lets them increase the price they get for ads and for advertisers it lets them better define what type of ads to show you. It's a win-win in every regard except your privacy...

Don Jefe

Re: Wondering

Emoticons?

Microsoft hires Pawn Stars to shaft Google

Don Jefe

Re: The sound of one hand clapping.

It's even better if the insult isn't understood due to the targets ignorance. It's a 2 for 1 deal.

Don Jefe

Re: !Subtle under tones

Sarcasm is an art that was never practiced in this country. Approximately 49% of US inhabitants couldn't correctly identify sarcasm if their lives depended on it. About 49% of the remainder have a severe humor deficiency all the way around, due to the fact that they're in over their heads regarding life in general.

Most problems can't be shot or eaten so they feel helpless, thus humorless. The remainder are the weird people who had too much school and foreigners who can't speak English. The foreigners are assumed to only be discussing drug smuggling, impregnating white women or their massive campaign to take all the jobs, so it doesn't matter what they say.

Irony is something the women do when they're bored. Alternatively, irony is kids with wealthy parents advancing a corporate beer marketing campaign by eschewing corporate marketing campaigns.

There are advantages though. When party guests have overstayed their welcome you can start a run of Flying Circus and within 20mins everybody is gone. You can also deliver devastating insults and have no fear of repercussions as they'll believe you've just paid them a huge compliment.

Apple supplier's '11-hours-a-day' toilers have '1 day off a month'

Don Jefe

Re: ever actually pick an apple?

Either you grew up on a tiny operation or a feel good gentleman's orchard. The larger operations here in Virginia all send the Mexicans, Haitians and Jamaicans up with the empty crates and down with the full crates. The harnesses you're talking about are only used at the 'Pick Your Own' orchards where rich white people go to 'connect with their food'.

I pick on the apple industry because I'm surrounded by it. My neighbor is a 150+ acre orchard and my wife volunteers as a translator every season with the 'special populations' branch at the local hospital. They go out, on Federal and State grant money and provide healthcare to the thousands of migrants doing the very work you say doesn't happen.

So enjoy your gentleman's mini-farms and ultra rare dwarf trees. I can assure you the rest of the industry will carry on doing it the hard way.

DVLA declares J14 HAD on BU14 SHT and SL14 AGS

Don Jefe

Start some campaigns that recognize perfectly benign plates as horribly offensive things. Some of the combinations in this story are really reaching anyway, just go all out and confuse the hell out of the DVLA.

False widow spiders in guinea pig slaughter horror

Don Jefe

Guinea pigs are delicious. You can't blame the spiders for having a bite. There's a Peruvian lady not too far from my house with a pretty big operation who sells them three for $20 prepared, grill them yourself. She's also the supplier for the surrounding counties school systems, but I don't think they're eaten at the schools, just pets.