325 posts • joined 15 Jun 2007
dont be evil
Just get the world + dog to use your free service and then start charging them.
how long before they do this to other 'free' services?
not so "cool" , are they now?
BTW, i dont disagree to the charge, just think this is going to change how people view them
if all malware is known to have included code to not run in a VM (windows & mac) then surely it must be possible to put something in place to make it *look* like you are running a VM , even if you are not, and then malware wont run? Is that over-simplifying it?
Eg: malware checks for a plist or a registry setting and wont run if its there. Then just put it there even though it does nothing.
would that work? should i patent that?
why would anyone want to try copy windows?
anyway, you cant sue people who copy ideas that you copied/stole anyway.
and are you saying that MS *never* sued anyone?
Yah, sure they did it the perfect way, thats why the EU and US have had them in court many times for their trading practices.
you forgot the 'joke alert icon'
modern day word for that is "Blogger" ... get with it !!!
While I myself think that the RC Faith is a bunch of nonsense, this hacker has demonstrated that he is no better than a persecutor of others based on their beliefs.
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and his/her actions only show an intolerance of this.
This Hackers actions are in principal (not magnitude) the same as the Crusades or Terrorist Bombing. Thought process stems from the the same initial basis.
Maybe the hacker might benefit from a bit of teaching about respect for fellow man and living your life to the best of your ability without causing distress to others.
Ironic isnt it????
reload page until your details come up???
In the meantime pretend you didnt see all the other peoples data. and dont copy and paste it.
tell them to stop using WHERE 1 LIMIT RAND(),1 in their mysql query !! LOL
"We are following up unconfirmed reports that Steve Jobs is actually still alive."
Bad taste lads. Bad taste.
Attempt at humour in this article is a major fail. Total crap. Very disappointed.
article misses so much it scary
kids "cheap/free" grow up to be the soccer dads and then want the "cool" phone instead of being seen as Mr Cheapo Dad
Google have NO experience in dealing directly with support/sales issues with the general public with respects to hardware. What makes you think that they know what way to go on this and wont mess it up?
What about all the Google 'partners' who woke up Monday to find out that they are now Google Competitors. Direct competitors ! If I was HTC/Samsung I would be worried that future versions will be X months behind what google release on their own phones, Or what if they decide in a year that they no longer provide Android to third parties? I'd be looking for a plan B pretty quick. And remember , I have just spent the last year or 2 giving them all my sales data and now they are my competitors !!
iPhone is about the whole eco-system apple built. Google might not be able to replicate that fully.
They are a copy-cat company in everything but search/ads. I cant see how acquiring Moto will change this.
well said !
IT tech people rarely make good business people. They all want to piss on their own street corner like a clueless mutt and bark loudly at other who come wandering by, but yet are so mad for affection and attention like a dandied up through-bred that they "race to the bottom" by providing their time and resources for Free in an effort to appear "cool".
** Disclaimer : before you start pissing on this corner and barking your head off, i used to be one of those until I copped on and realised that making profit was cooler.
1. fair play to Duncan. he reacted like any father. For anybody talking about his 'illegal threat', lets not forget how illegal it is to threaten his daughter. Another example of the victim becoming the criminal.
People have no fear of the consequences of their actions these days because they can get away with it and do-gooders will go on about their 'rights'.
2. Break both of your own arms? OK they will heal, but while you have 2 arms in a cast, who will wipe your arse?? That would humble any man!
nothing to worry about
I've already written a followup article that disproved his theory in 2021.
"And don't forget, if it were not for Linux, Apple's proprietary OS would not exist"
What the hell?? Are you saying that BSD is based on Linux?
Or that OS X is based on Linux?
Either way.... You have made a fool of yourself. Pity, to that point you were not doing too bad.
how it should have happened
Hire all 4
Put Tom in with his Nail File and more ideas. Susan's skin care business compliments this so add her product range too that she heads up and develops more in consultation with Tom. Helen oversees the operation, make it a well-oiled organised unit. Jim goes out selling the stuff... perfect
good to see someone with a bit of cop on and a brain around here... finally
SImple, consumers vote with their pockets and just dont bother buying this game in the first place.
I'm surprised Sony would announce this so soon after their recent embarrassment
"grow the f*ck up" ???
why dont you start your own business and produce something that others copy, then you might appreciate the position.
If they let this slide, then they are effectively saying that their patent application for the design was pointless. If they dont protect it fully, then it opens the gates for others to copy.
When you get yourself in this position you *might* start to appreciate the need to *have* to protect your IP.
in fact, for anyone that has a company and DOESNT protect their designs, they are the ones who should "just grow the f*ck up"
If MS said that windows is the largest installation in the world and i am selling house windows, could I challenge their trademark? Doesn't matter what he said! A trademark is a trademark
"And yes I have depression, OCD and Asperger's"
Firstly, thats is terrible, I really hope you have good support around you to help.
But, having all those, how many crimes have you committed and what have you stolen?
Diminished ability to tell right from wrong is completely different from having an illness.
Not saying that its true in this case, but I am sick of hearing law breakers going to court and "claiming" some unprovable illness as a reason for their action. It only makes things harder for people who have legitimate problems, like you.
The best one I heard was a guy who beat up the girlfriend and then robbed a car and his excuse in court was that he was off his head on drugs and booze. WFT?? Admitting more crimes is now a defence??
Why cant people have the common decency these days to just admit when they did something wrong and say sorry? Much more honourable and impressive.
not too far away
i want one !
not as bad as the security on MBNA's system. Went from a username/password combo on one page to putting the username on page one and asking for pw if you get username right.
Not only that but it also shows you the users 'sitekey' image and text before asking for pw as a security measure.
You can put in any username and get to the next page and see their 'sitekey'
SImple to copy to a phishing site and then get people to put in their password and suck up all the details for the lads in lagos.
Of course when i rang them to point this out, I was told i was wrong and its now MORE secure even though I would tell the operator what the sitekey image was for an account name i guessed.
Also emailed the Reg on this a few months ago, but seems like its not a news story!
Am I the only one who sees this as an issue?
He shouldnt have apologised.
Its about time people stopped pandering to all the wankers out there who whine about everything and act like a tough bully through email/online. Take the Michael O'leary approach.
He should have told that 'early adopter' to fuck off and read a book or have a conversation with his kids or something. Did your life end yesterday without copy/paste? No! So another day isnt going to make a bit of difference so STFU
Peoples perspective is arse-ways nowadays.
anyway, if he is an early adopter , why doesnt he have an iPhone. Everything else if just a bad copy months later..... ;-)
i'm definitely wondering....
when you say 'call mom' loudly, are you going to do a Hiro Nakamura on it and stop time and go to each phone and hold down the home button for 3 secs to activate the voice dial?
otherwise I think they will all look past you, waiting for the men in white coats to appear .. ;-)
and most likely the people spilling out of the stores with "iThingies" have just bought it, the clue being that they just left the store that sell them, meaning that the didnt already own one...
ah, its friday.. maybe you have a long week and need a pint...
" if Twitter think that they can control their platform completely then they're going to have to learn that it probably won't fly"
yeah, how dare they think they can control their own products and services!!!! i mean, who in their right mind would start a business with the idea of being in control themselves.
2 sides people, for all we know Twitter might have been asking for compliance for weeks/months and were being ignored... this might have been their last resort.
but hey, ignore that, lets find guilty and shoot first
Becasue WE know best right ! after all, we are Reg Readers !
@ElReg!comments!Pierre - think a little, please
"[Android] had been in development for quite a while before the iPhone came out"
are you trying to say the iphone development started *just* before it came out??
It was in development about 4 years before it came out, at least.
and everyone know what the early Android interface looked like. (pre june 2007)
anyway, back on topic... google were looking at bing to see if they should be copying what they are doing and found out that bing was already at it. imitation/flattery
not the only one, but at least you asked nicely...
i know plenty of people who are sh*t hot with software and OS's, but ask them to open up the machine and mess with the bits and they shy away immediately.
on the other hand, I am well capable of building a system myself, but am not sitting around with naff all else to do each day anymore, have a relatively busy life style, so I just want to be able to buy it all from one source and know i have a good warranty & support.
always remember , everyone is different.
its a long shot, but maybe in a 'pocket' ??
unless you are used to doing other things with a "A slim, narrow candy-bar" device.
but what would any of us in that other 1% of the world know?
wrong !!! join the others
android is NOT a manufacturer. its a _FREE_ OS
so please break those 20m sales down by manufacturer and see what position each of them are in.
i dont remember anyone ever comparing Linux installs to Compaq unit shipments in the past, so why is everyone now doing the equivalent with phones?
not thought out properly.... would you expect to be able to charge Mercedes, Iveco, Scania, Volvo just because consumers bought those trucks and drove them on the road? no you couldnt.
Its the businesses that use those trucks who get charged.
and in this case, its the user of the phone who uses the bandwidth who should be charged, but because the mobile phone co's are all in a race to the bottom to appear to be the one who gives you everything for free, they actually forgot to be able to pay out to upgrade the network as they saturate it with users.
So now they go whaaa whaaa all the way to the regulator and want free money. Muppets!
have been saying it for years
does anyone else find it plain stupid that a company builds a 'cloud' service that then needs to have an 'offline' option to run.
Why not just build an actual desktop app in the first place?
kind of like having to add wheels to a hovercraft in case it cant hover....
"(Angry birds still works on more versions on Android phones than all the ios devices!)"
how are you backing up that claim or is it just a christmas wish in your head?
and i think developers should think twice about giving in to Google on this.. they should vote with their money & apps and this might make google/handset makers get their act together and put a proper infrastructure around Android so that the whole fragmentation issue is sorted.
No point in making loads more sales if your administration and manufacture time goes way up too.
Remember turnover is not profit. No point in making 200,000 in sales if your costs become 199,999
tress and wood
android is an operating system (free at that) ... they dont make any phones, so you cant compare them to phone manufacturers... Google make exactly Zero phones.
Hardware manufacturers can , at any stage in the future, switch to a different OS if they dont like what Google does, or think they might get a better advantage by differentiating themselves by OS
and , ignoring the over-excitment of some of the posters here, I think the whole software sim thing might bring about some totally different benefits that isnt quite so obvious yet.
but hey, change is bad right ! lets not contemplate it and see if there might be some business angle that allow me to make money, lets just bitch and moan and hug our blankets.
No Change, No Change , No Change, No Change...........
logic fail fail
"Development costs are sunk costs"
every cost needs to be factored in when looking to get an ROI.
"given that they get a good part of £95 every time they sell one"
shipping, retail packaging, cost of manufacture, retailers margin, advertising etc are for Free now?
god lads, can people think even a *small* bit beyond what they read
android ~= ios (not apple)
to compare like with like, you would have to break android sales down to each manufacturer so as to be able to compare it to Apple.
Remember Android is a free OS, not a make of phone.
So how much did google make by giving it away?? One could say that android direct sales brought in a beautiful Zero in revenue. ( i know they make it up some bit in search/ads/apps etc )
But I do actually want to know how many android devices each manufacturer shipped, would be good to know who has benefitted most from it.
they drew their plans against us...
"And that how it was for the next ten nights
a flair spurting out from Mars
Bright green drawing a green mist behind it
A beautiful but somehow disturbing sight
Ogilvy the astronomer assured me we were in no danger
He was convinced there could be no live
on that remote forbidding planet."
War of the Worlds
Stock up on Yakult... good bacteria
not well then... ?
"That sure as fuck sounds like a monopoly to me.
so the only computer hardware or phone or OS available to the world is made by apple?
I am sure you are inadvertently meaning to compliment Apple and maybe it just "feels" that way seeing as the competition is so crap, but, just so you know, its not a monopoly because you can actually buy computers and phones from other providers if you really want to.
Maybe you just dont want to? you're right too !! good man
"No it isn't, you iDiot."
Yes it is.
perhaps M$ should consult her for innovation
"Back in March 2003, she told Vogue: "There are very few things that are on the banned list in our household...But iPods and iPhones are two things we don't get for our kids.""
She knew about the iPhone, 4 years before it launched !!
"the definition of open: "mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make""
brilliant... thats EXACTLY what my 13 year old niece, my non-tech brother and sister and my Dad needed to know.
I'm surprised they havent trampled over me in the rush to pick one up now that I have pointed this out to them.
NEWS HEADLINE : People are DIFFERENT !!! Who would have guessed??
always amazes me the people who post saying "how could you do with/without it"
ever occur to you that your way of doing it might not suit another person? a little thing called personal preference.
at least the choice is there now.
however that said , you are all wrong and i am right !
"Substance abuse that boosts the production of serotonin" is a subset of Substance abuse.
I'm mainly pointing at items like ecstacy.
also substance abuse has dramatically increased in the last 30-40 years.
substance abuse and loss of investments
I remember reading a study some time back that predicted this. Substance abuse that boosts the production of serotonin in the body makes you feel good, but apparently, if you take enough of it, the body stops naturally producing serotonin and in many cases, it just never restarts.
So once you "grow up" and stop using, you now have no natural way to feel good. You just feel neutral or bad. New grandson? Meh.
and now that many of those have seen the value of their pensions and property investments evaporate, a way out is better than the shame of admitting to the family and peers that they think they have failed.
years of wisdom and fireside tales lost.
Why is this in Reg Hardware?
Windows 7 is a piece of software only. There is no mention in the article about which manufacturers kit it will be on
Just like back in 2007 when Ballmer laughed about the iphone and stated that Microsoft were already selling millions of phone. 100% wrong. They never shipped one phone, just licensed an OS to other companies.
pedantic i know but, hey, its fun to ballmer-bash
decisions.. @ David MacMahon
you made your decision not to buy based on that is written in the Press????? Come on !!
as for apples PR department, its been said that its their "job" to reply to queries.
Surely, thats up to the company itself to decide how they run their own business and allocate resources??
I know I would assign X tasks and if they are already outputting Releases and all the info you can find yourself, then I would not be putting more manpower into that section, I would instead put the money into creating better products and improving support ( i'm looking at you M$)
Tony, a very good article.
I am going on hols in 3 weeks and plan on buying an iPad so i dont have to bring the laptop. Will be the second time in 13 years i will be able to go away without a laptop.
My main work uses will be in browsing, email, SIP via fring and ssh/vnc/rdp/teamviewer, all of which i do on the iphone already on the move, so think i should be covered, just having a bigger screen and bluetooth keyboard.
Thanks for the tip on ethernet in the hotel, i'll be packing my airport express just in case.
I'll let you know how I get on.
we might finally see the type of video phones used in Earth Final Conflict. The modern day Kirk Communicator.
powered by FaceTime of course !!! :-)
buy it now
a company decides to do a web stream and its gets this type of article???? wheres the Chief Editor? Surely you should physically beat employees who turn this nonsense in as a story.
Its not like a live web cast has never been done before.
and only being available on Apple Platform.. ever heard of Beta testing? why dont we burn every company at the stake that only releases for one platform during testing.
God almighty, i must be getting old, my patience for this is gone very thin.
At Last !!! someone else who read the Reg and "gets it"
Good post Sean, pity alot of other readers will probably read it and disagree simply becasue they just dont understand the model.
although , i dont know if google will actually be in a net gain on Android. Development and support costs are huge, and unless the Ad supported Apps dramatically take a greater share, then it might not be enough. Wouldnt it be funny then if it went the same way as Wave etc when the bean counters decide to cut it !!
@andy and AC
since when is there an apostrophe in plurals? its usually used in places to denote ownership
eg: the cat's bowl ( the bowl belonging to the cat)
eg2 : the cats are black ( plural, no apostrophe)
go learn engrish ! at least you have pointed our what half of the population you are in !!! ;-)
yeah, totally agree, fring is a great SIP client. If they punted it as being that , with IM and fring out thrown in, then the could easily start selling it to SIP users for a few quid a go.
Compete with eyebeam etc.
forget about skype tie in and concentrate on their own services