305 posts • joined 27 Sep 2011
meanwhile BPAS are fined 200K for leaking enquirers details.
A good precedent.
Re: Lets look at the real reasons behind this
indeed, plenty of scope for blackmail there. looking on the bright side, a few politicians might cop for some unintended consequences.
Re: Follow Ross Anderson's dealings too
had to laugh at that:
Anderson to hsick "what are your threat- and security models?"
hsick to Anderson "we don't understand what you mean by threat model and security model, please elucidate"
honestly. I mean wtf?
Anderson then told them to get a copy of his book!
Re: Summary Care Record? Brill Idea... Sharing that data? moronic.....
think you'll find the every doc taking a history at each initial consultation.
highly authoritarian and not to be trusted
Re: just wondering...
I think you can rely on the fact that MPs will be exempt from this, given what happened to Gordon Brown.
Re: Who's data
have to agree, however the labour party sold us down the river. they passed a law saying medical records belong to the secretary of state for health, currently Jeremy cunt.
no political party is proposing to repeal that.
even if they did, the law could be reenacted. answers on a postcard please.
I have 2 conditions affecting 2% of the population. if these are independent ( research topic there straight away, contact me re informed consent) then I'm one special snowflake within 250 ordinary snowflakes.
now talk to me about re-identification. oh and I've "opted out", which seems to mean my data from the gp is going to be extracted to somewhere (in the UK?) by the nice people at atos. quite what happens after that? perhaps that nice history graduate from McKinsey could enlighten us?
Is this Kelsey's operation? Par for the course for a history graduate if so.
Re: Which third parties?
once this gets out it's going to be re identified. no ifs, no buts.
they can pass as many laws as they like, the creepy data people at the likes of experian and detica will do the job without fear of prosecution. in fact the govts next move will be to make re identification legal, because terrorism/Chinese hackers/ whatever.
the police are already going to be given access, so expect to see your results from the clap clinic in a Murdoch rag if you ever get mixed up in a high profile case.
Re: Why does anything identifiable need to leave the GP?
quite. what happens at the gp stays at the gp.
want to do research? get informed consent. I would need to know the results were going to be freely published along with the raw data. oh and no disclosure of DOB, post code, NHS number.
re what I don't understand
istr the ICO saying he didn't have any standing because govt passed a law saying the upload was legal. he's just joined in the general chorus. the reason for all this: seats on the board.
used to have that on the docks ISTR. looks like they need a union.
and much play being made of how it's han criminal hoffence to reidentify the data. can't see that stopping the police or big pharma or the Murdoch rags.
"it's not readily identifiable" - +1 for weasel wording.
as for the data only being visible to those "inside the NHS" - no thanks. what happens at the GP stays at the GP, it doesn't get strewn around 300,000 employees of the NHS. and what, pray, /is/ the NHS these days? virgin? crapita?
6 month delay is good news, but will be used for propaganda of the anonymised type which the beeb are faithfully regurgitating. NHS number, anyone?
did someone say (cough) reputational damage?
More like the coercion unit
Stop smoking or we'll deny you health care, that sort of thing? The Demos guys will be advocating fridges that spy on you soon, if they haven't already.
Big statists, whether left- or right wing, meh.
checking you are opted out
Perhaps an FOI request to the quack asking for records that have been exported. After all data accesses will be monitored and audited.
hahahahaha. only kidding.
Kelsey insisted this morning that that argument was flawed. "I'm really pleased we're having the debate, but it's not identifiable," the NHS data chief said.
Kelsey is a fool or a knave. The data is being exported with a unique identifier, the NHS number.
nhs please note
The slack jawed fuckwits at care.data are claiming that DOB plus post code is anonymous data, and then we find out that the motherfuckers are stirring in an unique identifier, ie the NHS number!
This all gets copied and pasted into various newspapers verbatim and everyone swans around saying oh it's anonymous, it's ok. Wait till the insurance companies, police, busybodies at the town hall, experian and all the other creepy crawly lowlife scum suckers out there get hold of the nhs number list. Or have the slimeball credit reference agencies already got it, same as they seem to get privileged access to the electoral register? Which is meant for, wake up at the ICO, elections, not snooping.
but the sodding govt. already knows where the backdoors are ffs.
Ross Anderson (if you don't like him don't bother reading further) et al have set the cat among the pigeons with this: http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2014/01/20/why-bouncing-droplets-are-a-pretty-good-model-of-quantum-mechanics/
Some pretty pissed quantum mechanics out there!
taxes are for little people, suck it up.
refusing to install some utility '<sigh> because it needs Python'
Do what? I've got 17 python[0-9][0-9].dlls on my machine, all helpfully put there by whatever it was I was playing with. Even got a 33 one somewhere along the way, how good is that?
Re: No better way to destroy a country's IT business
the EU agreed to let the USA have access to SWIFT years ago. or is your concern re internal dollar transactions?
obligatory trusting trust link goes here.
this is academic for the rest of the world, the yanks (aided and abetted by gchq) are going to continue slurping everything possible.
the supremes aren't going to help you, boycotting American goods and tech (ie. talking to them in a language they understand) may have an effect but I'm not holding my breath.
the postulated robots sound for all the world like a Turing machine.
cue self-satirising brogrammers.
plus an extra 500 for their medical records?
paging d moss esq.
border controls, last refuge of the big statists. get rid of them.
cf andrew carnegie, who isn't remembered (much) for his monopolistic activities.
So a serverless web app is one which relies on a remote machine not supporting http connections?
Re: You Missed The Real Story
SSL has been been broken for years
these are the people pimping my medical records without consent?
Re: Not about comments but...
fprintf(stderr, "Fuck me! No memory left\n");
Big Food trying to get themselves in the same sentence as healthy.
Similar to tooth rotting substances having 'nutritional' information on them and manufacturers of fat inducing substances sponsoring the Olympics.
the way of compromising them is called developed vetting. the spooks have the dirt on everyone who's anywhere near classified info.
the internet just gets worse and worse.
another step on the road to a police state.
'victim surcharge' which doesn't go anywhere near a victim.
bureaucratic shroud waving by an arch bureaucrat.
impressively stupid even by american standards. I go to a foreign country, set up shop and I have to obey their laws? whatever next?
a lot of yanks do think like this though, the constitution seems to follow them around and give them the right to bear arms anywhere on the planet. there was a story that the swiss faced down and disarmed presidential (ie us president) bodyguards at an airport. nice story if true...
this isn't going anywhere, bt have got their man into no. 10, next to Google.
call me dave will be an even richer man when he leaves govt.
"cleansed of identifying data"
article then goes on to state (accurately) that the data can be doxed, but it's all OK because the highways guys are nice and cuddly. puhleeze.
have to agree with bb about touchscreen phones: a complete pita. OK for tablets I'm sure but a gimmick on a phone.
schengen == id cards
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