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All the objections I see posted here, are the same ones I saw back in 1989 for EMC compliance, and again in 2004 for the RoHS and WEEE directive. Guess what? Projects and products didn't get more expensive. It was implemented without all the wailing and complaining seen here. Old products stayed non-compliant, new ones had to comply. So what is the difference when a person sets out to write a block of code that must comply with a standard as opposed to one that does not? Not a lot I'm sure. The engineer involved just needs to have read and understand the directive involved.
re ignorance is bliss, If your code complies with the standard in the first place, why would you need to change one Library, service or resource? Is the product (as usual) not finished? not really fit for purpose? Another that will do as we need to hit a dead line?
The sooner there is some form of compliance the better! It is we the consumer who has to suffer with all the shite software out there from all sources!
1. As happened with electrical products there was a period of grace, 2 years to get your kit in order, the UK even got an extension for a couple of extra years. Which means that new code released after a certain date has to comply. Code released prior to the implementation date did not have to comply. Change your old code/product then it has to be tested.
2. Same argument was used for electrical products. Didn't work. If fred in his shed has real faith in his product, he will invest or get investment in his product. EMC certification can cost between £500 to £Thousands to test, but you can use self certification, but you must have documentary evidence of your tests, a technical construction file. If your product is caught out, you must defend it or withdraw your product from the market place.
3.A rating system, even the kite mark being denied for free software.
4. If you have a standard to comply with, your money and time are better spent on that.
5. ISO9000 parts 1 & 2 show you have traceability of your parts and processes, good, but it does not stop you putting out crap products, but the software is wonderfully documented. There is already the TickIT scheme for software development.
6. Policing? As with the EMC standards, Trading standards police it now. And of course it has not been unknown for competitors to test the other blokes product to see if it really complies. The Germans were very good at this, test the other companies product, if it fails, its withdrawn from sale or loses its certification.
7. It does not have to be the "Kitemark" so many products these days have to comply with a whole raft of EN standards. Before I start a product design, I first investigate all the safety and EMC standards I the product must comply with. There are many, and if I don't the customer does not get his CE mark. Added to that, the product must comply with the RoHS directive and the WEEE directive, if its automotive then add in theELV directive.
Back in the 1970's and 80's EMC testing in the form of BS800 was viewed as being "optional" by so many OEMs. Then came compulsory regulation in the form of 89/336/EEC. Now you had to comply with international standards. Don't comply? Withdraw your product from the market or face huge fines. Yes it was a boom time for test houses. But now all products must comply with EMC and safety standards or you can't go to market. The hobbyist can still make his noisy electronics, but the moment he tries to sell it to Joe public, the law kicks in. Why oh why can a similar scheme be set up for software? Even if a rating system was brought in, it would be better than nothing. Do you want to buy A+ security rated software or D-? Test houses don't need to be run by the government, just to be regularly audited and "calibrated" as NAMAS do now. Then software would have to be written to comply with internationally approved standards, which are regularly reviewed and improved.
The rest of the engineering world HAS to comply with standards? Why not software?
Why can't humans design a computer hardware/software solution that is both new and more robust or immune to Trojans, virus infection or network interception? I mean to say the personal computer has been around in various forms and available to Joe Public since the 80's. Is there not a case for starting from scratch with a system whereby the hardware and software is designed with security in mind? I guess the problem "we" have is that the dominant OS out there is an evolved product, and perhaps "we" need a revolutionary product. I know its a case of PICNIC the vast majority of the time, so perhaps Mr Public should have to have a license to use a networked/internet connected computer? LOL
How about making the software vendor responsible for losses caused by this sort of crime LOL
Now where did I put my medication?
Think of what will happen when a kid gets eaten? So my solution is for a bounty to be put on them, plus lets see some tasty Python recipes. In my experience any creature with value or s tasty has been usually hunted to extinction or the verge of. Yes lots of Red Necks in the swamps with guns, whats not to like?
This excuse is wheeled out continually, as it must be vital to know every distant family member or friends activities and minutia. There are just so many many ways to stay in touch these days, telephone, Skype, FaceTime, email, snail mail, to name but a few. Its a snoopers paradise. The same people often regarded as curtain twitchers are now "Facebook Friends" aaah How nice. And all the while they are gathering info on you! The intelligence agencies must be having a field day! It looks like the press are. Want to know some dirt on someone? the idiots on Facebook!
Gates was from a software background, he had a vision for his products. Jobs too. Balmer is a bean counter, his background is finance, not engineering of any kind. His vision is limited to the bottom line. He is the king of the underpants gnomes. 1. make something 2. ???? 3. Profit. He can't inspire, because he has no belief, no vision. So many great companies have been ruined by sale people and bean counters. Apple will be next.
Do they honestly think that by denying access to a few pirate websites will make Joe Public rush to ITunes, HMV, or where ever to get their music or video's? Its not going to happen. People don't buy it because the vast majority of the "Industries" output is shite. There are many vested interests out there that want the net censored, and using something like this and the usual mission creep that happens? well, just like Arnie says, a very slippery slope indeed. If it happens, then hopefully there will be lots of civil disobedience, and who knows? unrest, rioting? revolution?
By the time they find that they can or cannot do it, the world will be either vastly over populated, and starving or burnt to crisp after a man with funny head gear deicides it is OK to Nuke his neighbour.
Thorium reactors seem a good idea. I hear the Chinese are trying for one. Either way, you'll still pay extortionate bills for energy. A lot of people like being rich. Besides I remember when oil was discovered in the North Sea, it was going to be cheap petrol for all in the UK. Well you saw how that turned out. Just peachy......for some, but not for the motorist.