929 posts • joined Monday 22nd August 2011 10:18 GMT
Nokia are doomed, but Elop could have done something
"Stephen Elop has done as much as any CEO could in transforming Nokia's culture in a short space of time"
That's nonsense, had Nokia taken the Android route, they could i'm sure be pushing out decent, affordable smartphones that are different from the rest.
Instead, they are lumbered with mediocre Windows Phone, with no developer support, another burning platform, and the problem that all Windows Phones are basically the same, as the OS is so uncustomisable (either by the end user, or the integrator), there is zero differentiation, aside from some coloured plastic bumpers.
Elop was never interested in what Nokia needed, nor what Nokia's customers wanted, he was only interested in what Microsoft wanted. That's is obvious to everyone.
And this is why everyone is dropping shares like the shitty stick.
Re: Phones 4 U
Buy one broken product, get another one free...
When you say selling, you of course mean "selling" (as is giving away as replacements, review units or press and developer freebies).
I doubt they have SOLD millions, infact I don't know anyone stupid enough to own one.
Re: 2 millions units in a quarter?
1.5m units are buried in a deep pit under a frozen lake outside Oulu. They couldn't bury any more phones without owners without everyone getting suspicious over their made up numbers.
You really want to risk that?
I mean chances are tomorrows figures will be even worse once they discover that big hole in the group full of unsold Windows Phone models.
share price, but I don't think it would be wise to invest. I think they are more likely to be a fatal casualty than a recovery.
After seeing them put all their eggs in the Windows Phone basket, - "I'm out"....
How low can you go....
Nokia shares plunge on profit warning
Surely Microsoft must be ready to buy them now, or can they do even more damage and lower the shareprice even further?
Re: Instagram now #1 free app on iPhone
Downloads != Users
I downloaded it, discovered it was a shit version of Pixl-o-Matic that was locked into a single social network full mostly of hipsters, so I deleted it.
Re: Who to believe?
Just pointing out this is Gartner bullshit in response to last weeks IDC bullshit.
It's really not trustworhy news in any form whatsoever. Not that it won't be copy and pasted verbatim as fact in every forum on the planet... But then Apple knew that when they commissioned this report.
Only in America
can you sell an app that makes your photos look shit, where you can post it to a forum where other people have made their photos look shit too, for $1bn
Who to believe?
Gartner seem to think Android currently only has 29% of the Tablet market.
"Gartner predicted an eight-fold increase in sales of devices that use Google's (GOOG) Android operating system over the same period, reaching 137.7 million units. Android's share of the market will rise from nearly 29% to 37% during that period, the firm said."
However IDC say Android tablets are at 44.6% (compared to Apples 54.7%)
"Overall, Android tablets accounted for 44.6 percent of all sales"
Personally, I would believe the IDC figures (or perhaps the Gartners ones don't include the Kindle Fire or something), as I know more Android tablet owners than Apple tablet owners, but that might be because I don't hang out in coffee shops all day, or work in marketing and PR.
Either way, this is all bullshit, i'm guessing Apple paid for the former report and Google paid for the later.
Re: they forgot what's important -Are you serious ?
Wasn't it a company called First4Internet?
And SonyBMG, amongst others bought it from them.
But then why let facts get in the way of a great Internet myth. The Internet would be a boring place, if you don't have the Sony Rootkit DRM idiots to laugh at...
What did you expect?
For every 1 person that must buy an iPhone to wave it around in public as a status symbol, there will be 99 that want a smartphone to USE, and the fact is, whilst there are iPhone beating Android at the high end, there are entry level Android smartphones that do much the same at the affordable entry level too.
Whilst I have a very decent Android handset that wipes the floor with iPhones, I am a niche Android owner, as most owners will opt for entry to mid level handsets.
There is only 1 iPhone for 1 budget, there is an Android handset for EVERY budget.
Re: DivX, Part Deux
Consumers are idiots, they can't see beyond initial purchase price, they don't give two hoots about what they might be paying next year, or how they are locked into a single manufacturer for content and hardware forever.
iTunes and Kindle are prime examples of how stupid consumers are.
This is what happens when you deal with the devil. I hope the Microsoft patent deal and Windows Phone arrangement was worth it, as whilst you were mucking about with the Windows Phone trainwreck, you had your eye off the ball and let Samsung in...
Lets hope the failed Windows Phone "arrangement" is over for HTC and they go back to concentrating on making awesome Android handsets again. The HTC One is certainly looking like they are back to their old ways.
Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again ...
It's called OpenDNS and it allows you to block what you want at a DNS level.
But if your kids are smart enough, they will enter the address of the P0rn DNS manually....
As well all knew.
Instagram wasn't popular with iPhone owners because it was any good (both iPhone and Android have the vastly superior Pixel-o-matic), it was because it was exclusive to them.
All the iphone dickheads will now move onto something else to proclaim as the best thing since sliced bread, the only criteria is that it needs to be iOS exclusive....
You have to cater for the intelligence of people reading El-Reg these days. They can't make statements like "as low as $199 (£125).", as clearly the US price is EX-tax. UK prices need VAT @20% added ontop, and the EU import duties for goods manufactured outside the EU (14% I believe).
So even before the support costs of 21+ European languages, $199 is actually £166.50...
Re: I give it 2 out of 5 Nokias on the Fail Scale
Excellent, I will be rating everything in Nokias on the Fail Scale as from today...
Genius... It's also a universal language, as everyone will quickly know what you mean...
is it bullshit Friday or something?
"The internet advertising giant's Android operating system has struggled to take a serious bite out of Apple's fondleslab market share"
As IDC figues show Android tablets on 45% and iOS tablets on 55%. That's a pretty tasty bite in my book, especially considering the Kindle Fire has yet to launch anywhere but the US, and Google have yet to launch their own bran tablet.
Expect that to be 70% Android and 30% iOS before you know what hit you...
Flash isn't dead then, despite what the scaremongers here claimed a couple of months back.
Re: The secret to Ninty Wii success...
Considering you can get a PS3 for less than £150, why would ANYONE want a Wii-U? You could even get a VITA too, and it would still rock in for less money....
Nintendo will be as advanced as last generations consoles.
Another epic Nintendo failure in the works, perhaps not from a sales perspective (although I suspect it will), but definitely from a technical perspective.
The original Wii was always an inferior version of the PS2, which could be bought for less, had more games, and didn't suffer from the Nintendo shovelware problem, if you wanted novelty gaming, then buy an EyeToy for the PS2 for £15, job fun.
More fun for less money.
The PS3 will be in the same place when the Wii-U hits. Why waste your cash on a new console that's only as good as the 6 year old PS3, doesn't have any games, and is rather rubbish in it's media capabilities compared to the PS3.
Sony have the casual market sewn up, with titles like Little Big Planet etc.
Re: consol fanboys
Mobile games are mostly shite.
What I still find staggering is the sheer number of people that think a £1 mobile game can be compared to a £40 console game...
About the only thing worth playing on Mobile is PvZ....
Re: What's Windows Phone?
Clearly my comments we lost on you.
Nobody knows about Windows Phone for many reasons.
1/ nobody supports it
2/ nobody wants it
3/ it's got no apps
4/ the phones are like bad Android phones from 2009
5/ It's Microsoft
This is why it's failing so badly. Even Bada outsells it. Microsoft and Nokia can't even give them away through Neilson survey promos.
What's Windows Phone?
Is it like Android and Apple?
A single games developer that nobody had heard of, where nobody wanted his crappy apps.
I used to develop for iOS, but left because the approval process took too long, and I had to buy a Mac to develop on it.
So that's a single developer than left iOS for Android, so that evens that out then...
Remember Apple's claims of Android fragmentation? You might want to look at iOS fragmentation, it's MUCH worse...
Re: How is this measured?
Clearly you don't create real shortages (otherwise you won't be able to sell anything), you only need the illusion of shortages to make idiots think it's some kind of measure of desirability.
Re: How is this measured?
Clearly you have never heard of channel stuffing.
Many big American companies are constantly doing it to make impressive sounding press releases that further drive the hype machine.
Isn't this just cherrypicked news?
I mean Symbian is still outselling Windows Phone 7 by a large amount on a global scale...
How about reporting how Bada even outsells Windows Phone, or won't Microsoft allow that to be reported?
That is all. It's far more likely that lazy devs can't make chargeable fart apps on Android like they can on iOS, because there are already free ones on Android.
If you going to write crap, then don't expect to be able to charge for it like you can on iOS. On Android, there will already be superior free versions.
Sorry fanboys, bad news.
LTE in the iPad3 is not compatible with European LTE, so even if Orange do launch soon, it's not going to ever work on your iPad3...
Ouch, that's gotta hurt, makes you look a little fucking stupid I would guess. Still I don't expect your barista friends will know what LTE or 4G is, and you can always pretend it's an iPad2...
they weren't ridiculing them for queuing per-se, they were ridiculing them for queuing because of Apple hype..
"How will people know it's a 4s, it looks the same as the old one" should have been the clue that it's not about the product it'self, it's about what people THINK of you owning one...
Get some PR out that says how many Apple shipped and how it's GPU is a gizillion times quicker than Tegra3 devices blah blah blah...
"No one buys a phone 'cos it's marginally better at recognising voice commands"
From the Gizmodo comparison, I would say Android is substantially better, not only at recognizing what was said, but understanding and returning results quickly.
Considering how much noise Apple have made over Siri, i'm betting there are ALOT of iPhone 4s owners feeling a little cheated right now, when they discover voice commands are not the be-all-and-end-all, and that even if they were, that Android did a much better job of it (and got the results quicker without massive amounts of online data consumption).
Digital Copy - What a clusterfook
I had a copy of Senna for Xmas as a Triple Play, (Blu-Ray, DVD and Digital Copy).
Tried to use the Digital Copy on my Asus Transformer, and it was a totally shambolic exercise. I never actually managed to get it to work, I ended up using Handbrake to rip it, which worked just fine...