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Microsoft was said to be leery of Nokia's weak position in the smartphone market
Errm, It's the failed Windows Phone that put Nokia in that position.
Things could have been so different had they gone with Android, competing with Samsung rather than trying to survive on sales scraps from the odd foolish punter who is mesmerised by live tiles (widgets to the rest of us) to not see the vast platfrom problems.
Android is free, and there is no obligation to bundle Google apps. There are several Android devices that don't have Google stuff on them.
The reason there aren't that many is simply because the Google apps are really good, and why wouldn't you include them?
That something is "too good" to allow Microsoft to compete is the real gripe here, and if the EU side with Microsoft's shill complaints arm, then consumers are the real losers in all of this.
Another Windows Phone fail,,,,
Nokia needs to give up, it's beyond embarrassing. I used to feel sorry (not sorry enough to buy one), but not any more. They had their chance, but they burnt that platform, and the Android life raft next door.
You also forgot..
Region locking and size.
Ps4 is not only considerably more powerful, and cheaper it's also 1/3 of the size of the Xbox betamax, coming on the same size as the current super slim. It's also ALOT sexier too.
I want tho be a fly on balmers wall today. Is there anyone left that still wants an Xbox one?
Re: iOS users use their phones 50% more than Android users...
Android users have widgets and don't need to open apps to see the news weather and bus times.
Want to tell Tim cook that. He quite clearly is an idiot if he can't work this simple thing out.
Re: 7 ... X
The number of iPhone owners that have yet to buy a superior Android phone.
does anyone even care what Apple do these days?
What ever they announce its almost certain to be available on android already.
They still haven't sorted out the broken maps... perhaps they should fix that before copying Android custom keyboards API and widgets.
Re: What Security?
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
Kaspersky want to sell you a malware solution for a problem that doesn't really exist
The Register profit from this sensationalist nonsense because people come here to read it.
You my friend just aren't playing the game...
You do the math.
500GB hard drive.
Disks on the Trojan Blu-Ray format (as was previouslled termed by Microsoft) at 50GB a game, mandatory installs...
Yep, you can have a whole 10 games on your Xbox One, less if you use it for it's primary purpose of being a STB...
People really want this crap?
AT BLOCKBUSTER in the UK.... Which no longer trades.....
You consider this a sign of the wider world's interest??? Really....??????
Re: Microsoft: "We're always listening to our customers"
Where is #Anonymous when you need them....
Playing on their Xboxes ironically....
Re: Tough choice
I can already picture Ray Winstone slugging cybermen with a sock filled with billiard balls...
So I voted for Ray "who's the f*ckin daddy" Winstone...
Why is this Google's problem?
Surely the GOVERNMENT should be tackling this, not trying to offload the problem onto Google, Microsoft and Facebook...
On paper Google could – and should – have succeeded.
Can you imagine the tantrum Microsoft would have started had they done that. They would have gone crying to every single government, complaining that nasty Google were using their leverage to push a free and open codec over their closed stuff...
Re: Speak of the Devil ..
LOL,. Quite clearly just had a big fat cheque land on the doorstep from a unnamed American company for "advertising" their forthcoming product...
What a tool. You would think he would at least have a few made up aliases. Even people here are smart enough to do that... :-)
Unfortunatly, the old adage.
Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft still reigns supreme.
However this time around, and CIO buying Windows Phone for his company is likely to be working in a petrol station soon afterwards....
Shorter waiting lists on Thursdays and Fridays for people that can put risk into perspective.
Re: Won't be able to post hate comments
She would be better off banning the press that incite racial hatred in the name of sensationalist journelism.
Re: Tried it
WOW, your S3 runs Windows or MacOS???
Did you even read the article????
Fashionable to mention Google
But of course everyone is at it, exploiting the same loophole. Amazon operate out of Luxenbourg.
The guilty party is NOT Google, it's our government for making it unattractive for businesses to operate here.
Re: Impressive bult ultimately useless.
"When did Sony copy Kinect then?"
Last generation. It was called Eye Toy. It was fun, it worked, it was ALOT cheaper than Kinect but ultimately showed the limitations of controller-less gaming. That didn't stop Microsoft copying it this generation thou and making alot of money out of clueless idiots that fell for the hype.
Quite clearly bundling Kinect with the new Xbox is a bad idea, as there is not one single game that has launched for the current Kinect that would convince even the biggest Xbox fanboy that it adds to games.
It's more likely being bundled for Microsoft's advertising and licenses patents
(recognizing logos and using that for targeted advertising, and charging movies per person viewing).
Re: I can hardly believe
Actually the mobile phone I just made is the fastest growing platform, it's called AndroidX, I downloaded the Android sourcecode and did a find and replace and recompiled.
Last year I sold none. This year I gave away one to my cat... Take that Microsoft and your stupid growth without numbers bullshit statistics that fool anonymous cowards.
Re: I can hardly believe
I can hardly believe that you have believed Microsoft's side of the story.
The fact is, Windows Phone is on life support, the only people refusing to pull the plug are Microsoft, supporting it by writing their own apps.
The API nonsense is a smokescreen.
The Xbox One was already doomed.
it's quite clearly an advertising platform rather than a gaming system...
Still, idiots that buy one can now get Achievements for watching the latest Simon Cowell drivel...
Re: Impressive bult ultimately useless.
You might have spotted, not only did the PS3 predate Kinect, it also predated the Wii-Mote by 4 years.
The only people copying, were of course Nintendo and Microsoft. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a brainwashed idiot. Go and google the Sony tech demo from the PS2 era of the Move...
If I were an American, I would be most upset that Microsoft were wasting all my tax dollars on this nonsense.
Here is a simple test. Anyone can do it in two minutes.
1/ Google for "Maps".
2/ Bing for "Maps"
Guess what, Google Maps appears at the top of the list. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST RELEVANT RESULT.
1/ Google for "Picture Hosting".
2/ Bing for "Picture Hosting"
Google does not return it's own picture hosting (picasa) anywhere on the first page of links. FlickR is there, as is Instagram and ImageShack and TinyPic.
You are also a retard if you want to play Xbox 360 games on your Xbox One
.... according to Microsoft...
Are congress stupid, or just paid to ask these questions
as the answer is quite clearly.
That smartphone in your pocket, be it Android or iOS can record anything you want anywhere you want. Google Glass is no different except you don't need to take it out your pocket...
Pot and Kettle?
it was Larry Page that won it. Going to sit there laughing and pointing....
Re: @Barry Shitpeas
"If you think that people hate Sony because Microsoft "manipulated" the media, and not because of Sony's high prices, episodes like the rootkit, the banning of Linux on the PS3, their use of proprietary connectors and cables with price-gouging replacement costs"
Are you for real?
1. The "Rootkit" wasn't a rootkit, wasn't even Sony (it was First4Internet" and Sony BMG), it predated the PS3 by 10 years, and only an idiot would let that affect a purchasing decision 10 years down the road. By that logic you also should avoid Microsoft's consoles for what they did to Netscape and all the other companies they crushed by their market monopoly and backhanded illegal tricks.
2. Linux was never "Banned" on the PS3. it was removed as it was being used as a method to crack the console to piracy. And everyone knows, if you console runs cracked games, developers run a mile the next gen (a problem Microsoft will suffer with the NextBox). To believe your "banning" sequence of events, you have demonstrated how the twisted reporting by the media has clouded your judgment so much that you have forgotten in what order the evens occurred. Removal of Linux was a reactionary move and of little consequence, as it was shite. Anyone that used YDL will know that. It took and age to boot and unless you were doing major number crunching, you were wasting your time when you could be playing games on it.
3. High Prices. Remind me how much Xbox360 owners have spent in Xbox Live fees, replacement consoles and play and charge kits/batteries/memory cards/HDD upgrades/HD DVD add-ons since 2006? The PS3 had all this out the box, nothing else to buy. To even suggest the PS3 was poor value for money is absolutely absurd, and shows us you are an idiot that can't understand the concept of TCO. I'm pretty confident to say that 90% of Xbox360 owners will have spent vastly more than a PS3 owner would have if they had bought their consoles in 2006, and the PS3 owner would have had not only a better gaming experience with better exclusives, but a better media experience too, and far better reliability.
4. proprietary connectors and cables. Come again? I can't think of a single connector on the PS3 that's not an industry standard. It's pure SATA HDD, USB, HDMI, RJ45... If you want to look at proprietary, take Microsoft's extensive tricks to stop you using off the shelves memory devices and hard disks, and forcing you to use their overpriced ones with special firmware... That right there is price-gouging....
Sorry for making you look a total tool for burning every single issue. I rest my case, you and many others have been brainwashed by the media into hating Sony and the PS3, simply because Microsoft needed to get their foot in the door. I suspect you read all the tripe you posted from an AMERICAN gaming website. Guess what their agenda is, yep, you know, that AMERICAN console.....
When you grow up a little bit more, think back to this post, and remember how naive you were..
Re: "Microsoft honcho pleads with media: 'Stop picking on us!'"
Karmas a bitch eh Microsoft.. The very same media you mass manipulated into hating Sony and the PS3 so you could get your foot in the gaming door has now turned against you.
How's it like now the tables have turned?
Is really more accurate, as Vista was nowhere near as bad as WIndows 8. Only Microsoft Bob really comes close.
Yet another Windows Phone casualty
They wasted their time with Windows Phone, and let Samsung take all the glory just as Android was emerging as they OS of choice.
HTC could have also been there, their early Android offerings were great (I had a HTC Legend, and it was fantastic). But they wasted their time on the Windows Phone folly and now look what happened...
All aboard the hype train. First stop WDC...
Using emotive bullshit like "Visionary designer Sir Jonathan Ive’s perfectionism" is just trying to convince iTards that Apple have a new Steve Jobs.
to see if Apple can keep its place at the top of the tech tree.
Apple lost that several years ago.. Every since the 6 monthly iPhone refresh that offered nothing new that wasn't already in Android.
I smell another Apple Maps, so going to be stocking up on LOTS of popcorn before WDC, where you can bet much of the talk will again be dissing Android rather than talking about what Apple have to offer...
As it didn't differentiate if the users WANTED to stay with Apple, or we FORCED to stay with Apple because of the content lock-in....
Re: Siri: What's it like to have competition in your backyard?
It's not competition of course, as Apple have ensured all non-Apple products on iOS don't play on an even playing field.
Android of course doesn't have these imposed limitations. If Apple wanted to make a Siri for Android, they could simply hook onto the search intent and offer the user the option to replace the built in search with Apple's offering. Ditto for maps, ditto for web browsers..
See how evil Apple are? This is not dissimilar to what Microsoft did to Netscape.
Re: What is the point
Are you saying that Google search ISN'T the best search, and Google Maps aren't the best maps?
They are at the top of the search results because they are the best services, used my the most people, and therefore DESERVE to be at the top of he search results.
I have already demonstrated 2 examples (and someone else provided a 3rd), where Google clearly AREN'T promoting their services above others.
This quite clearly shows the case Microsoft brought to the EU is a crock of shit. The Google services that deserve to be at the top are at the top, those where other offerings are more, they are at the top.
Are you happy that the EU will be forcing Google to promote inferior products and demote their own better services down the search results, just because Microsoft said so?
and what US judge you have in your back pocket accepting party donations.
America likes to THINK it's moved on since Enron, but it's gone backwards, and Microsoft and Apple are they key corrupter on all this.
Re: This is akin to
The point is, if I search for the term "Maps", I EXPECT Google Maps to be at the top of the list, simply because it DESERVES to be at the top of the list, because it's the best product.
Today (before the EU recommendations are even implemented), a search for maps gives me the following results.
Google Maps (UK)
Google Maps (Global)
Now that seems like a perfectly rational set of search results based on POPULARITY (which is what PageRank uses).
Are you saying that just because Google made a great search engine, AND a great mapping solution that Google Maps should be artificially moved down the search results, so clueless idiots will use the rubbish Bing Maps? That's of course what Microsoft want, and that's what the EU are proposing.
If I take an area where Google doesn't have leadership, but does have a product, say picture hosting (Picasa), and search for "Picture hosting", guess what? Google doesn't even appear in the results... The results look like this:
So in short, Microsoft's case here is total and utter horsecrap that gives underdogs with inferior products an artificial bunk up....
At least you are honest about it.
So many sites are churnalists and pretend to be journalists.
Usual Microsoft spin.
to try and sell something nobody wants. Tell everyone that you can't sell them fast enough, and idiotic consumers will rush out and buy one.
Consumer: STOP FOR A MOMENT AND THINK....
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