Re: Can I...

No.

If he was issued this 15 years ago on the basis of a working system he deserves a patent. It is what the system is for - to protect an inventor building stuff. He actually built it - hallelujah.

The more interesting question is "Why nobody managed to find this when looking to invalidate the patents owned by Apple".

And there is no such one really

While the entire affair is not particularly pretty all code shown by Oracle in this slide deck puts Google firmly in the clear.

There is a well known precedent in IPR law known as the Lego precedent. Lego sued some of its competitors for allegedly copying its "bricks" and tried that based on both Copyright grounds and Design Patent grounds. It failed.

The reason is that in order to get a functional "brick" you need to have the recesses on the bottom, the pointy bits on top and in order to connect bricks in different combinations you have to have those bits rounded. The reason for the Lego brick shape is not design, not copyright - it is because it is functional and any other brick based system will have to have a similar shape.

Coming back to Google vs Oracle, it has no case for copying an API and there is very little case to apply copyright to an API. Anything trying to implement the API will be functionally similar to the existing implementation - same as Megablock bricks are similar to Lego bricks. From there on, if an API is public and if there is no _OTHER_ means of prohibiting the implementation of said API, an implementor can copy the definitions of the functions and there is very little that can be done against him. It is a form of the "Lego precedent" - there is no other way to do that.

Oracle is showing only definitions and function declarations in their slide decks. These fail "The Lego Test". So will any piece of code for which there is "only one sane way of doing it". They have to show a piece of code which requires a non-trivial implementation which has been copied.

Did Google copy chunks of code is not relevant here, it is "did it copy something that is subject to IPR protection".

It will be good if this sees its day in court and it creates a precedent, because regardless of who wins the scope of frivolous application of "Copyright" tags to include files, library definitions, schemas, etc - things essential for interop is likely to see some drastic reduction and this is good for everyone.

By the way, SnOracle is not the biggest offender here - most opensource projects are way worse including. They frivolously slap GPL2 on include files, API definitions and other items from the 2+2=4 variety.

Re: Info please

First of all, why tablet? I have seen Tablets bolted in various configs on Eastern European taxis (a lot of taxi franchises there run some very cool Android software which does SatNav + request queue, dispatch, etc). It takes LOTS of real estate so unless you are driving a van you will find it a bit too big (or will have to mount it somewhere where you take your eyes off the road to see it).

So instead of a tablet you can use let's say Sygic (they license Tom Tom maps them and build a UI of their own) on most Android handsets (there are some known problems with Galaxy series, but all the rest are usually pretty fine). I use Sygic on my Xperia Arc S and wife got it on the Xperia X10 Mini Pro.

It work flawlessly around EU (walking mode too) and has most of the advanced features you find an embedded satnav (speed traps, visual lane change assistant, current/incoming speed limit, 3D view, landmarks, etc).

My only complain is that it barely breaks even on "charge budget" on the Xperia Arc S and does so only if you tell it to be economical on the eye candy. At 4in the Xperia has a screen the size of most high end SatNavs the screen is brighter, the traffic updates cost you much less as they piggy back on your normal data contract and it just works. So you do not really need a tablet, a BIG droid will suffice.

By the way, the charge budget is likely to be your big problem on a tablet too. Running at full brightness with GPS and Bluetooth enabled as well as using a lot of the CPU and GPU can eat more battery than the charger can supply.

Re: I must like shit movies then

The list was compiled too early so it could not include BattleShit^Hp.

It can be about deterrent

It can be about deterrent - if the punishment is public. This is valid for any punishment (including the death penalty).

A private "humane" punishment can never be a deterrent because the population does not observe the punishment and does not see exactly what it will go through if it commits the offense. So why on earth can someone expect it to be deterred?

In any case, the system is broken, we should be:

1. Forced labour, not "Hotel Stay twiddling thumbs and learning new techniques" - there are enough yellow fever and malaria breeding grounds swamps to irrigate and minefields to clear worldwide. Regular reports on the public service announcements on TV are essential - there is no better deterrent than watching someone in the last stage of yellow fever kick the bucket (it can be merely cleaning the streets for minor offenses of course). Channels that do not transmit let's say 1 minute during each news bulletin and/or 5 min per day in advert breaks should not get a license.

2. Term in advance - you are welcome to commit any crime you like as long as you serve half of your term first. Want to kill someone, fine, sign the papers and do 7 years of digging trenches in a malaria swamp (if you do not do it in advance you dig 'em 15 years). If you quit early you get nothing (besides the set of diseases and amputated limbs).

Re: Oracle isn't entering the smartphone world

Oracle and Sun before it has been a (smart)phone software provider for many years through Java Mobile Edition.

The main reason for SnOracle to throw toys out of the pram is that:

1. It was collecting revenues for Java off most smartphones and a lot of feature phones. It will no more. It was getting money for nothing on this one. 99% of the few people who had code for java mobile edition have rewritten it for Android nowdays.

2. Google delivered where SnOracle failed. Java mobile edition is an overall failure. It was used only for minor features and featurettes - it was never backed by an app distribution channel, infrastructure and it never offered its developers access to the full power of the underlying hardware.

So this suit is actually about Google successfully terminating SnOracle (smart)phone software provider business (present and future). Larry has never been particularly forgiving about his company losing a revenue stream and, to be fair, there are very few occasions where he has lost one. It is not surprising that he is not taking it in very well.

In any case, Google should have gone with Python or even Ruby for Android instead of entering the "write once, run nowhere" quagmire. In a day and age when Apple has made all software developers write in Objective C once more anything in possible :)

Re: Plain lie

Why are you asking the question when you know the answer :)

Re: Bless 'em

In China - you probably cannot.

Elsewhere - you definitely can.

Chinese handset manufacturing has grown sufficiently to spill out on the world stage. That is when the fun begins.

Re: So which is it?

Neither.

The "shrinking" glaciers are downwind from the heavily polluted India.

The "growing" glaciers have virtually no industry upwind from them for thousands of miles. See the jetstream map for the area - before it reaches Karacorum it blows across Afganistan and the virtually uninhabited portions of Iran and Northern Pakistan.

It is not warming which melts Himalayan glaciers, it is particulate polution. Most moisture coming up from the Indian ocean across India with the monsoons settles on the windward (facing India) slopes (along with all pollution it picks up on the way). The slope facing China is a mountain desert with rainfall comparable to the middle of the Sahara.

Even 1% albedo change from tar which industry, badly maintained internal combustion engines and diesels put in the air can make more damage to glaciers and snow cover than all of the annual temperature changes reported so far combined.

Nothing to see here, move along, it is still humans who make for the "melting", just nobody wants to admit "how" they do it.

Re: 5Ghz problem

More APs is not the answer, more APs is usually the problem.

If you have an AP per room there is no way in hell you can have a sane frequency plan even if you tinfoil every room (and ground the tinfoil). Unless you live in a one bedroom flat of course.

I have an AP on my work network, an AP on my router (which goes into the DMZ I should really turn off) and an AP on my home network. That fills the 2.4 band chock-a-block in 20m radius. 5GHz is slightly better (more channels) but it will get filled up before you furnish an average house.

In any case - you are better off with a design taken out of the cellular book - sucky (but reliable) 2.4 "umbrella" with the power to the MAX to cover the whole property and "microcells" - 5GHz APs with the power to the MIN to cover only spots where you are likely to need more bandwidth - office, sitting room, etc.

The article misses one of the biggest annoyances in a home network - PAUSE frames. WiFi is all good, but the APs are connected with something and this is nearly always a variety of Ethernet. Pause frames destroy any multimedia use and will appear in most mixed 100MB/1G and some pure 1G environments. After having to debug this a couple of times I now put "pause disable" as a key requirement for any new 1G gear. If it does not have it, it does not enter the house.

Re: What - not one webcam listed!

The TV has that as an option. Check the spec.

Me coat.

Re: Finally! Some serious scientific research.

No. Serious marketing.

In order for alcoholic drinks to mature correctly the liquid needs to have at least some minimal circulation in the cask. That naturally happens when gravity is at play. A good wine cellar has almost constant temperature so convection does not really play. Other factors however like density microchanges from evaporation of alcohol near the cask top, interaction of booze with the cask walls, etc play a similar role. These are _SLOW_ and this is why wine, whiskey, brandy and rakia are supposed to mature slowly.

That is also how you fake it and accelerate maturity. Freshly activate the wood by "burning" it in a microwave (it actually turns to charcoal at the edges), stick it into the maturation vessel, warm it up and provide stirring (standard lab teflon magnetic stirrers do nicely). Voila - here is your "mature" brandy in a week. Been there, done that.

Coming back to zero-G. None of that works in zero-G. There is no convection and a density change does not cause a flow in the liquid. Any change in the liquid will be limited to the brownian motion. So the Whiskey will either fail to mature or will taste like shit.

This is marketing, not science.

Re: Reworking?

He does understand it actually. So does the industry.

The problem is that not in their understanding, the problem is in the economical fundamentals based on which the industry operates. It does not try to satisfy demand and match demand to a price. It tries to inflate demand through artificial scarcity. Delay DVD release, delay special release, delay release based on regions, limit how the content is available and so on.

Let's compare that with the music industry - did you notice that RIAA has not been in the news for years and it is just the MPAA now? Of course it would not be - all prices for CDs, downloads, etc are now demand based and made to match actual demand using feedback from sales forecast to sales correlation. The entire idiotic cycle of limited release of singles, then limited release of album, then... is in the gutter with a 5 inch stake in its heart.

What needs to happen to the movie industry is a legilsatively applied Stelios (the real one tried to break their monopoly, but failed, guess airlines are easier). The moment the movie industry stops using economics of artificially induced scarcity and becomes a modern demand based economics system based on demand driven pricing the ever repeating cycle of "one idiotic law proposal after another" will go away.

As long as this is not happening there will be a SOPA every year, rinse repeat, try again. That is what the industry needs and its main lobbist understands it pretty well so do not underestimate him.

In my case it is junior & grandma

Wife got a kindle and frankly she is clocking about 5% of the time junior (age 10) and grandma (age 67) are clocking on their Kobos. I cannot keep up uploading books. So the device passes the kid and the grandparent test.

I can second that Kobo store works fine under linux. I bought junior some "monster candy" at the airport to keep him occupied on a 3 hour flight (the Eldest omnibus to be more exact) and it showed up on the reader straight away exactly as it would have showed up on a kindle. My only complaint so far is that Cyrillic font titles are sometimes not rendered correctly (probably missing fonts).

Book codes, and their variants, have been around a while, no?

For many years all the way up to WW2.

If memory serves me right, Soviet intelligence (or to be more exact whatever was left from it after Stalin ordered its extermination in 1937-1939) used book codes to communicate throughout the war.

From a crypto perspective a book code is a form of one time pad. If it is executed correctly (no reuse) it is a very strong encryption method.

Re: crazy academic led BS as usual?

Q: Are there any "smart" TVs that support IPv6?

Yes - Samsung. All of their recent TVs are Android inside which has native support for IPv6. No idea if it is enabled or not though.

In any case, there are a lot of untruths and half-truths in the article. The "Holy Church" of IETF is actually actively looking into all of this - the relevant workgroup is called homenet with the most active participants being Linksys, Dlink, Apple and other classic "consumer" device vendors.

Re: Teens

This assumes that the teens that use Blackberry are likely to become wealthy corporates.

That is not quite the case nowdays.

Re: Not exactly

IDC conjecture assumes that: There will be no "ready-to-use" off the shelf ARM based platforms and developers which want to get something done using OTT will go Intel (and thus windows).

Close but no cigar - there is already a healthy market of "mostly baked" ARM based SOCs in the far east. That is the territory where Via retreated after being defeated by Intel.

Even if we assume that Intel hits their power targets for the new Atom and even if we assume that it hits the price point under current and future Wondermedia, OMAP, etc SOCs it still will not have all those GPIOs which are present on these systems. These will have to be grafted using yet another unspecified 8 or 16 bit controller(s) which costs extra money to integrate and build.

IDC is making the mistake of extrapolating POC development to real system. A lot of the POC work is being done on Windows and early smart meters, smart devices, etc all have a rather expensive Windows build driving them. That will not necessarily be their production build. In fact it is least likely to be.

Re: It's easy to lose patience

So how does that fit with:

1. Same period - increased rainfall in southern USA allowing for the existence of the Pueblo Indians civilisation.

2. Same period - draught in Mexico and Yukatan peninsula and the downfall of the Mayan civilsations.

3. Same period - multiple incidents of freezing of the mediteranean sea and black sea against a backrdop of hot summers and higher annual temperature average in Europe

4. Same period

If you take any model for _GLOBAL_ warming and look into the details you will see Europe with a more continental climate - cold winters and hot summers, wet Texas and Arisona, dry Mexico and so on. Just take the b*** f*** model and read the result before you spout rubbish please. Even the model produced by the "Not another old university in Cambridge" shows exactly that.

So in fact the evidence from Antarctica fits into a puzzle with a thousand other pieces already in place - from archaeological evidence from Viking and Pueblo settlements through historical records and down to pollen and tree ring records. I for one am not surprised with it and it _FITS_ the cross-disciplinary (historicans, archeoogists, geologists and climatologists) consensus about the climate in the last 2000 years. The only _NEW_ thing here is that it is from the Southern hemisphere. Before that the records were mostly from the northern (not just Europe - all of it).

Re: 30%

That is exactly why they will never be a bank. They cannot take the same obscene cut on banking as on their other stuff.

Re: Supernova or....

Come on, those pictures are visible spectrum, not IR.

Re: Of course, the real question is...

If you are asking the question, you already know the answer: 42.

Re: Why not?

Your analogies are not quite correct.

Car manufacturers during the first 3-7 years (depending on car) get a cut of second hand sales from service, maintenance and execution of warranties. Even if a car is sold its warranty goes along with it. So in fact, that industry actually works off that paradigm.

The problem of the games industry is that it never managed to find a compelling "warranty", "maintenance" and "support" arrangement for single player games.

IMO they should have taken a leaf out of the soap opera marketing book on those. Release small episodes, release often and leave the core game purely as an engine to run the episodes. This however is against the way industry is structured so it is not surprising that nobody has tried it.

That is what parents are for you know

It is up to the parent to decide. It is my decision, not nanny state's. I have read the certificate, the description and sometimes even played the game. I have decided that it is OK for Junior.

I allow junior to play Doom at the age of 10. Abstract goofy monsters to shoot, yeah, whatever. Anyone putting 15 on that is out of his mind. The only reason it has 15 is because of the way it relates to the description of sin in one particular dominant developed world religion.

I am not going to allow him CoD or GTA though regardless of certificate. In my house - only across my dead body.

By the way, I know that 90% of the parents have not bothered playing the game or even reading the description before making a judgment on should they buy it.

You are missing the point

Chinese do not just want to go there - they want to go and claim it and develop the resources.

Take the Chinese space program and roadmap (available in English) and read it. It makes a very interesting read. It is even more interesting that they have hit every single roadmap item and data since they have published it.

It will be more difficult to hit the next ones because they will need to build the next gen launcher which can go off-schedule, but none the less - their Space program is an impressive feat of program management.

Re: ".. there may be a boom in the field in the coming years"

Quite obviously they have not. There are a few supersonic aircraft which have canards with a position and size which is a biplane allright.

Saab Viggen: http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/saab_37_viggen.jpg is a good example.

It makes as much racket as any other supersonic.

Re: Human studies already complete

That's different ADHD :)

None the less, it is funny how prophetic good science fiction can be. If you read The Eternity Artifact by Modesit there is a long rant at one point on this. In that novel the more "aware" part of the human civilisation in the 26th century (if memory serves me right) have prohibited radio for any non-essential use for this exact reason - if you want connection you have to use fiber and use something tethered.

Re: SONAR

Not sonar - triangulation based on ultrasound. Right frequency, wrong choice of transmitter/receiver.

Just put a source at each corner of the lawn, modulate with an ID and timing (you can wire them to a central source) and read the sources at 3 mikes each a foot or so from the center of the lawnmower.

The rest is a trivial computation problem - you should have no problem nailing the coordinates and orientation of your lawnmower down to under 1m. Add some roomba style bumpers to prevent mowing into things and voila - you got your autonomous lawnmower. For added benefit you can have all the computation done centrally and just give the lawnmower commands over let's say WiFi (and read data from the mikes).

The fact that sound moves so slow in the air will allow you to do something which you cannot do using radio - compare two signals.

You will not have any rodents, cats, bats or dogs in a mile radius either.

If you are that keen on doing it via radio use beacons at each corner and a rotating flat high gain antenna on top of the GAGA. Measure signal and triangualate. 4 WiFi access points, different SSIDs and a 20db directional antenna will do the trick - total BOM of under 300£.

In both cases the key is to stop occasionally, re-sync to a position and use inertial guidance in-between.

@alunharford

No, the Shrike.

With Martin Silenus in attendance to look after it and Aenea to control it and ensure it behaves itself.

Yes I know, not exactly the kind of Ion gun you have been looking for.

Re: And?

These are flexible so they can go at surfaces where we cannot stick legacy ones easily - for example on the curved parts of car body panels or 1:1 replacements for existing roof tiles.

The material cost in solar panels is not marginal by the way. It makes up for a considerable part of the panel cost.

Re: Scary

You are mistaking history and archeology.

History is written by victors :)

Modern Archeology is pretty scientific. It is definitely more scientific than a lot of the climate models floating around. Analytical methods including various forms of radioactive dating, trace element analysis and DNA analysis, etc allow you to pin human, animal and plant remains down to +/- 50 years as well as tell you where they grew up, did they originate from the area, were they brought in and so on. It is applied analytical chemistry, applied molecular biology and even techniques from criminology thrown in.

Coming back to Greenland - the digs show reasonably successful colonies (I agree with the sentiment that calling them thriving is PR by Eric the Red) up to around 1100AD and after that it quickly goes downhill over the course of just a few generations. There is published comparison data including disease prevalence and average age in the population and how it changed when the warm (in North American and Greenland) period ended.

Coming back to Europe and USA - during the same period parts of Texas that are now desert were humid and wet with a fairly advanced (by pre-Columbus standards) civilisation - the Pueblo Indians. If the Gulfstream weakens the Humboldt should weaken too leading to that. So that is not particularly surprising.

During the same period in Europe vikings migrated southward. Do you think that they went down to Normandy or down the Russian rivers to the Black Sea just because they loved to see the world? B***cks. They were freezing to death and had nothing to eat in northern Scandinavia during the same period.

So if we are running into the same phenomenon (regardless of is it anthropogenic or natural) would not want to be with a car which is not winter-ready to the hilt in Europe and without a boat in the USA :)

@Jeebus

Take any archeological journal which publishes papers on the viking settlements digs in Greenland. Read. Rinse. Repeat.

During the late middle ages (800-1200) the names in the North Atlantic matched the scenery - Greenland was green (on the coast), Iceland was ice. That is proven many times by a science which is considerably more exact than climate modeling - archeology.

If we add the historical data from the same period - multiple recorded incidents of freezing of Black Sea, Bosphorus, Mare Marmaris, North Adriatic, Bay of Venice and Bay of Marceiles (sometimes in consecutive years) you get a pretty convincing picture of a weakened Gulfstream.

That is exactly where we are heading by the way. That is also scientifically proven, no modeling required - last 20 years of temperature, salinity and flow measurements by all European research institutions involved show that.

So, if you live in Europe - screw the greens, electric cars and their bretheren - buy an diesel 4x4 _WITH_ an engine preheater (or install an aftermarket one). Before any green opens his peephole - go and ask Nissan, Renault, etc exactly how much does the battery on the Leaf or its Renault bretheren last at -25C (answer - 20 miles on a very good day with the heating in the cockpit _OFF_).

If you live in USA - buy an air conditioner and if your property is somewhere low - change for somewhere higher.

Re: Golgafrincham B Ark

They have their boarding pass all right.

Now can I have my contents insurance _REDUCED_ because I do not have it.

Re: First

How lame

The analysis has been done long ago and I am yet to see a type that does not fit one of the major categories here: http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/

Re: Where should I start

Not german taxi drivers actually - every country from there onwards all the way to black sea. The further east you go, the more tablets you see.

What I found more interesting was that most of the software had the hallmarks of being written _LOCALLY_ and to order and just using Google or some other maps back-end. It was not just taxi drivers - it was most people who drive for a living - truckers, couriers, etc. Quite interesting actually - some people putting a slab to real use.

Re: Baffled

There are just too many people out there which are in "office or nothing mode" of operandi for a variety of reasons.

The most common one is when some dolt has concocted a "business model" or other "essential business tool" in excel + excel basic and has made it to be the only way to complete specific tasks in the company. The aforementioned ingenious "tool" has had no formal testing, no routine has had unit testing and tends to return 2+2=5 for a set of sufficiently big values of 2. None the less. the company future is decided and guided using said tool(s). Though shall not question the gospel of business models in excel because the gods of business strategy and development shall smite you down for your insubordination.

Ever tried loading one of those in a "compatible" office suite? Ever been smitten by an angry "minor deity" for questioning a business model in Excel? Based on your post - probably not.

As far as using Onlive for £5 a month... Well, for office.. Meh... But for other things while being able to get the company to subsidise both the iPad and Onlive... Hm... As Lazarus Long used to say - yield to temptation, it may never come your way again.

Re: 2011/2012

Quoting "Babylon 5, In the Beginning" - beware of the quiet ones. The iPad is a fine example - it just officially relegated LTE to a dumb pipe.

Here we have the first "must have, will have" LTE device and it does not do IMS. It is the first Apple iOS based mobile device to be usable for _PROPER_ video conferencing and video calls and it does it bypassing the cellular standards on the subject. It does not encode as the 3GPP says it is supposed to, it does not interop as 3GPP says it is supposed to and it does not request resources as the 3GPP says it is supposed to. As a result of this it does not pay operator bridge troll fees as they thought it is supposed to.

As I have said many times - Apple has to be bonkers to buy into the delusional business model behind IMS+LTE and will use 4G only when it is confident that it can use it as a dumb pipe. And voila - it just did it.

By the way all ANALitical muppets (honorable el reg not withstanding) missed this one amidst the frenzy on why this device is supposedly "revolutionary".

Re: Bring it on...

I have a 23 year old Petrol Clio RT which I keep abroad as a spare vehicle. It has had no electrical faults within the 11 years which we have owned it - I cannot testify about before that. Touch wood and do not tempt fate of course :)

It is still running 212k (km) on the clock and probably has around 100 (and 10 years) more before it falls apart. The secret for both Renault and Peugeout is to change the radiator at 150k miles/15 years - otherwise they roast :)

In any case - electrical faults + French cars is a recent malaise from the last 10 or so years after they went electronic mad around 2003-2005.

Kind'a

I would usually agree with you. Usually...

However, in this particular case the satnav manufacturers are guilty as charged.

I had an entertaining dialogue with the manufacturer of my SatNav software for Android 3 months ago. I pointed to them that their routing algorithm is suboptimal because it _ALWAYS_ assigns any route which is not clearly marked as 60mph and does not differentiate between un-classified road, B-road and A-road. So if you are navigating around the periphery of a town it regularly gives you instructions to drive out of town, turn on a country lane, use it to drive around and go back in town again.

I was told to that they are not changing their algo and not offering any means to tune it. By the way - the same guys write the integrated truck handling + SatNav for some of the biggest Eu logistics companies.

This leads to an interesting conclusion. It does not matter how many times would the council reclassify their roads. THAT WILL BE IGNORED. It is presently not a customer requirement and the SatNav companies do not give a damn.

In fact, based on tests with the trial versions and one commercial version most SatNav software for Android fails on this one - including Google's own.

Re: Honda's Asimo...

Most importanly, it will have an iVTEC sticker on the bum and 3 cupholders. Never forget the cupholders and the special diaper and tissues compartment.

Re: Alex Hanff has an interesting idea....

Close, but no cigar.

If memory serves me right, small claims court does not form precedents.

None the less, the idea is tempting to say the least.

Re: Yay, Go Viviane!

On a more serious note - the way apps permissions are formulated they do not make a distinction between "use" and resell to third parties.

This distinction exists in Eu Data protection law and cases and is very well defined.

This will be interesting to watch - I expect a large contingent of Eu tanks parked on Chocolate Factory's lawn soon as well as the biggest fine in data protection history to subsidize them. We all need more money to repair the damage from the "Timeo Danaes, Goldman Sachs options ferentes" and their Euro Trojan horse. So I would not expect the commission to show any mercy :)

Re: Thought it was going to be sexy,

Plug the Episode 6 DVD in and you will note why.

That... thing... at 4:40 is not Princess Leia, that is an anorexic CGI stick insect wearing the same clothes.

In any case. Dance-Dance-Revolution for the pleasure of Jabba the Hut. Gag... Excuse me while I find the bin next to my desk... Gag...

Re: Hypothetically speaking...

50-100MT of TNT or so, depending on speed, density, etc.

Enough to wipe out a megapolis of your chosing if it lands on top of one. Sizeable tsunami at sea too.