70 posts • joined 11 Aug 2011
Re: I did appear to be affected overnight...
Given that ElReg obviously put the intern on copy, mis-spelled places and all that, were you relating to "Hey, Preston! My average....etc" or am I too far west/south/soft/etc?
How right you are
Even though you're a spoiler there, it's a cert that this will be:
1) A painful rendition of (another) marketing genius taunted by his ego
2) An overplay of his (sad) demise
3) Product placement Nirvana
4) Un-mentioning of all the other clever people in his success
5) and yes, vacuous, poorly backed, forgotten quickly but available on Netflix now.
I liked Kingpin myself.
Excatly. It's a zero-sum argument that sees Microsoft wanting desperately not to continue to be seen as the 'last team player to be picked'. Again.
And I hate to think of how Windows is going to manage the address spaces for containers in the same way it's struggled for years with JVMs. The architecture will have to be a bolt-on methinks.
So another blade in an already large Swiss Army knife.
Re: Get the butter
Ocean's Eleven Director Steven Soderbergh is on the other line - he wants to sue for plagarism.
Yes and outside the f$cked up world of app/web/cool 2.0 you would be right. But in the hyperspace reality of tech-world, this is quite normal. It's *so* laissez-fair that I guess if you show enough front, you get away with it.
And you're probably right anyway - the programme itself is probably fluff, but it does give desperate managers a further stick, sorry, carrot to use in '360s' and Performance reviews. "Ms J S Node, have you thought about the benefits of delaying motherhood to a point where people will confuse you as grandparents of your children?'
Truth is stranger than fiction. And becoming more disturbingly so in this case.
Adverse Camber ahead...
"and Microsoft’s Internet Explorer team has indicated that responsive images support is on their roadmap as well." This is politburo speak for 'we don't have an answer - yet - but now you've mentioned it, what a fab idea'. More evidence that the 'roadmap' for IE, so closely tracking the 'Surface' of another dimension is at best erratic and missed the whole multi-device idea.
Am I missing a trick?
Does the study take account of any signal contention? I swear that as the massed ranks of the One Direction fan club board the train, my healthy five bars of signal evaporates magically. Or would another Hogwarts metaphor apply here too?
Given the Borg-like logic of Microsoft, merely the mention of Chrome will relegate the comment to the bin. IE precedes Bing by many many years yet it still goes on like a Celine Dion performance at Vegas. People tried Bing, hated it, laughted at it and these days largely ignore it. but with IE, MSFT is in some weird self-inflicting Monkey trap. Chrome is just sooooo much nicer and faster to use for so many people.
I expect though, that ceding to a foreign browser somehow makes people less tied in the desktop flavour underneath. And there lies the rub. Expect IE to continue to contribute strongly to the demise of the (consumer) Windows Desktop and the infanticide of Surface and it's siblings.
It's simple highway robbery - your IP address or read a book.
Re: A suggestion for MS
I suggest you may have missed a point:
4) They manage to wrestle folks away from Windows 7
As of now, MSFT's active code base is supported (in various cocktails) from XP, through vista, Win7, Win8 and soon Win10. Not mention the server derivatives too.
People have obviously decided that even if looks are different, Win8 smells like a leap to a new vista. they have defined their buying behaviours on mobile by ignoring Surface and Phone. Why produce more answers when people have stopped asking the questions?
Re: Roughest Beta release I've seen but was able to get it useable
Did you compose this in Nano? Gedit is now available on most distros, I'm told.
Re: WHY WHY WHY WHY !!!!!!
"If BT pays fibre to every house as a general infrastructure upgrade it has to pay for it and recover the costs over 20 years."
Well guess what they've been doing with copper for the last 40 years? Making a loss?
Clever wiring work in the street means not having to build new ducts or trenches if you're stripping out. Per-capita cost is going to be far less than Virgin is spending at the moment (they DO have to dig the trench and put in the furniture).
Digging holes: Let's not forget that the STATE put in the massive copper infrastructure and since 198-something, BT has been milking it whilst selling us services atop that we have little option over.
'Line Rental' : If it's a 'service' then you would expect investment to be costed into that rental to give you the 'service' that post-Edwardians expect.
ISDN-2: When you pick a horse, be willing to buy a new one. Huge costs have been backing up in exchange architecture that seemed cool even after it was defunct. The rest of civilisation went ADSL.
Reflects our international stereotype quite well. Used to be clever, chose the tweed jacket, still wearing it.
OMG it's the Matrix V.wrong!!
"That is the sound of inevitability...'
I'm just surprised that Wales has not been caught in the monkey-trap sooner. A Think-tanker's delight in a world of puff, Wikipedia is held up as an example of constructivism and education, enlightenment, even.
So as in recent years Wales has been crabbing into shot on more of the world's broadcast media, we have to assume that all this rumpus is merely the man saying 'enough' against the machine that has become his nemesis.
I admire his resolve in keeping it at arm's length for so long.
'Apple does not limit the number of password entry attempts users could can make when attempting to access their iCloud accounts'
Well that's a red rag to a bull then.
Then let's mention it...
'The Hackney Cabs vs Uber dispute was presented as one of the stick-in-the-mud Luddites trying to fight change. And yes, the Hackney carriage end of the market is uniquely privileged by regulatory mandate. But the reality that Uber is simply a cheap taxi company that doesn't bother with the whole "get a licence from the pesky municipal authorities" thing seems to have been overlooked, and should be mentioned.'
My Desk would give an edit to include 'corrupt, morally-bankrupt, screwed-down-tighter-than-a-snare-drum' characteristics that personify the typical Black Cabbie that I have encountered over the years. I've been Shanghai-d in Sarf London, bollocked for living too close to Heathrow and worse.
The trouble of with the Cabbies is entitlement. Generally the savvy ex-union shop stewart who laughs down his sleeve at the posh pricks. Armed with 'The knowlege' that nobody has needed since the advent of sat-nav. Squirting as much fuel through the injectors to make the meter work harder, idling to compensate. Who do you know who drives like this?
That 'license' bears some similarities to 007's in the respect of making a killing whilst barely containing contempt for passengers. It may be the same with Private cabs, but at least it's caveat emptor when you book one of those. The same for Uber as far as I'm concerned. If you're happy to roll with the blows, it's Uber every time for a cheap ride.
If you want to pay pay a exorbitant tariff whilst getting Rodgered by the cabbie's driving, get a black cab. That sounds pretty disruptive to me.
More subtly - There's nothing new here
Yes, this concept that you pay for what you get has been around for years now and yes, you buy the 'version' you want to use (Like Office 20xx) and, well, use it without further concern.
What this article touches on nicely is the wonderful world of the commercial datacenter (read cloud) that has cottoned onto the idea of measuring what you are using. I see a growing facility with all wares where you can use pretty much what you like, so long as you pay for it. This is the meter of things with mobile phones today. You can call your Granny in Tihuana from Marrakech if you really want to and talk all day. You would then, of course be bankrupt and facing debt orders for the rest of your life, subject to credit worthiness in the first place.
So it will become(I believe a lot sooner than we think) in the world of software. AWS/Azure/other Cloud infra already allow you to ramp up as much virtual kit as you want/are allowed to do. There's no 'purchase' involved. No cost of ownership/capital shenanigans. And Office 365 and the ilk will be paid-as-consumed.
For hardware, well, that's disappearing and let's face it, slabs are absolutely devoid of installed functionality unless you're hooked up to Google on 'droid or Appstore on iOS.
I feel really quite sorry for Tim Berners Lee. Mention anything remotely connected with the WWW and up his name pops like a willing dog.
Personally I blame the guys n gals (whoever they are...) who developed all that XML that presented, represented and stored all the guff. Or the idea that TCP/IP would be encapsulated into GSM comms, or the idiots that gave us IRC.
I am a Luddite of course, but unlike Zuck, Schmuck and co, Berners-Lee only created a framework. A fool with a tool is still a fool ('in petulans') and every market-maker knew this. Was it MIT who put an entire catalogue of learning online and nobody even remembers that it's there?
Earlier posters have it bang-on, Maslow's 'needs' do apply, but I'm not exactly sure if they are needs or actually desires. The moron contemplation that 'it's me and my mates' on the internet prevails and so long as there are cretins to spout, there are cretins who want to hear it. A bit like going to the footie. Berners-Lee should be congratulated for his efforts but also take it upon himself not to step forwards when the words 'WWW' really mean 'the internet'.
Any comments on the Semantics of tumble-weed?
Bang on. It's MSFT caught between the bases here. Where the Surface started as a (rather unwise) pee-ing contest with Apple's iPad, this new Surface shows an army in full retreat. The failure of the app store and the platform generally for Devs just underlines that the (new) Windows consumer (user) is now all but extinct. 'Droid and iOS have seen to that and a windows tablet for my kids would be the equivalent of your Uncle bombing the party.
Since this is a Cnut-esque device manifesto (all users catered for, one device) it will charm the idealists that follow the Microsoft platform as Winbois. For the people putting their hand in their pocket, it will largely go un-noticed.
The keyboard-and-tab fudge with a pen just reminds me of those Toshiba Portege slabs that ran Windows Tablet edition so many years ago.
Re: Total Inability To Support Usual Performance (TITSUP)
Azure has lots of redundancy built in. Take the 'always make an opportunity out of a crisis' team who wrote the update. Instead of saying things in pragmatic terms, like 'network services', we get a parade of the various service feature (branded) names. But of course that's another rather convenient way of partitioning the issue (much like the contracts that hang off it) into financially manageable chunks when it comes to SLA true-up. A bit like saying after the event "despite the wind blowing the shed down, the foundations were functional at all times".
Divide by zero error?
I've been raging for years about the partitioning of my curiosity that is the news/lifestyle/comedy/suicide section of my Sunday papers. Now 'May contain nuts', 'contents may be hot', 'gamble responsibly'. it just goes on and on. After this debacle will we soon here the patter of little feet as they march to 'put one foot in front of the other' ® ?
No, THIS is terrible...
In what has no doubt 'percolated' down from Redmond/Soho in the coffee froth, I had to quote the following from a MSFT TAM in our organisation regarding the sad demise of the above said:
"Microsoft has a history of helping people get stuff done, and have focused our efforts on delivering digital work and life experiences that are reinvented for the mobile-first and cloud-first world, empowering every person and every organization on the planet to do more and achieve more."
I mean W...T...F ? If there were a place in the space-time continuum that were further from the truth about Max Clifford, this surely has to be it??? My anxious media-studies intern couldn't master this on Charlie, so how do they get to this through the nightmare that is MSFT in Web 2.0?
Do you get sheeps? or cactuses? Or vertebras?
Who else has a pet latin plural misnomer favourite?
That's a pack of codswallop. Even with the 'smartest' tools like MS SCCM, System Center Service Manager and all the other collateral that Microsoft throw at us in the name of 'configuration management', most folks wouldn't have a scooby how an impacts their environment. WSUS gives you the right to 'choose' what to update if you have an on-site instance and Service Manager and SCCM are dumb to the updates apart from their file extension and any wrapper that goes around them.
And 'choosing' means 'deciding not to' in some cases for an update. Great! you know that you don't know what you're missing.
I love Linux (which makes me a rabid, jihadist monk who talks in binary and awk) which comes in major builds (and stable LTS versions) which means every time I run a big update, it's all taken care of. Oh and I can have whatever interface I choose. Including Unity, which makes Metro look like a Fisher Price toy.
Re: tablets? OS ?
I'm reading the article and the comments with some interest. It seems after several iterations of the world's annual GDP figures (over the lifetime of the 'tab-pc-phone'), there is no definitive solution other than to own 3 devices. PC for serious 'work', tablet for sofa-surfing and smartphone for boredom.
No pitch here but about a year ago Ubunut tried to crowd-fund something that just might have done it. The post-fail on this was they 'might' fly with the idea anyway. It was a neat idea without any proponents (except of course, Canonical). I think they got scared of the idea of committing to what I thought was a cool idea.
...and that was to have a tablet-like thing that you took pretty much anywhere and that hooked up to Monitors and keyboards, work networks and home likewise. A huge conflict of interests for most manufacturers of course looking to protect format revenue streams but a great idea nonetheless.
And there lies the problem I think. The pushers know most have us have at least 2 form-factors, possibly 3. Why upset the applecart if the money keeps getting spent on things that are (mostly) useful? Of course, Microsoft's particular space-time continuum demanded that the surface was the answer but everyone knows that's shite.
Eventually I think that somethingslab will win, probably a common TV interface or standard at home and more trad computing networks at work with a device that will span them both.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Agree. Still the lingering legacy of the Windows mobile monkey trap. Unable to escape from wanting to do the right thing but still not getting the rewards.
MSFT are now living the moribund existence of King Cnut, unwillingto even visualise the world with any sense of reality. And just because the world knows that a one-hand-comfy tablet is the way to go, doesn't meant that MSFT will pay any attention to it.
BTW, I rate the Surface as a good etch-a-sketch replacement, but it's just a brick to look at :-)
Doe not compute.
I'm still scratching my head on this one. What does IBM want with the iPad? Or maybe this is code for a new device that plugs to other 'enterprise' stuff.
Lenovo have made a bit of a splash with the Yoga in the enterprise, so is this a look back in anger at the premature disposal of the consumer computing business to the same some years ago?
Are we going to see a TTY emulator for Z/OS from Big Blue on the iPad real soon?
Re: So, let me get this straight...
"There are lots of highly skilled people at Microsoft. It is a shame all your political infighting at the top is getting in the way of some fairly decent products. Just look at the number of people who leave MS and startup their own company"
There are easily an equal number of opportune hires who came along in the 90's, creamed in the shares and are now wasting the company's future trying to retrofit the market to 'The Microsoft way' As an FTE I met them one after another and they are a toxic mix of incompetence and longevity.
You are right about infighting at the top, but I sense that Nadella is facing a considerable resistance to change in the way that Ray Ozzie did...the right agenda with the wrong audience. Must cost them meeelions to hire and fire these pop-stars, but hey the investors love pop-stars.
All that will happen with the contractor edict is a re-arrangement of resources to fit the middle-management report 'top-boxes'. No Win.
History tells us all we need to know.
Let's rewind here.
Circa 2000, Nokia was the undisputed phone God of creation. there were no smartphones. Some groovy WAP things and all, but no smartphones
Circa 2002 - Microsoft, largely with an entire market-making opportunity produce a smartphone. Laughter and applause as the world carries on with Symbian.
Circa 2007, iPhone. Applause but less laughter.
Circa after that, world apes i-phone, calls it Android and Windows Phone.
Circa 2012, world still laughing at Windows Phone. Microsoft buys company with biggest user base on the planet
>>>Circa 2013 - Microsoft gives world Nokia phones with most popular OS on the planet<<<
Circa 2014 - Microsoft pretends Android not important in volume market and rescinds in favour of OS with large shoes and spinning bow tie.
Circa 2018 - World appreciates the old ones are the best ones and continues laughing.
Am I missing something or is there a pattern of missing opportunities here?
Unity at last...well almost
Seems like the look 'n' feel merchants will be unwittingly moving the looks towards Ubuntu Unity (say, what?!!?). As always, real class is understated. Well OK, pretty much unknown.
Ah but using an API gives you soooooo much more control over insertions of ad-streams, sorry, 'partner content'. These are never technical decisions, purely commercial, always Orwellian.
Re: Must suck to be an musician in these days...
Agree entirely. 'Indie' is a word I associate with a bit of 'take-me-or-leave-me-anti-establishment-notquiteintune' as a genre. As such "It's a contract so bad that you would never sign it in normal circumstances. But Google has a gun to your head," doesn't sound very 'indie' to me. It sounds like indie-principles, me-too revenues.
I can't see the operators wanting to relinquish control of their own mast infrastructure where in doing do will interfere with their best-laid plans (and QOS restrictions) for White-badge joyriders, sorry, vendors that use their infrastructure. Tesco Mobile is O2 was cellnet is effectively still BT, etc. I can't see them releasing all these and other Machiavellian structures for the sake of competing alone.
Pretty much like any other provider of services in the new and improved duopo..sorry, deregulated market, the Status Quo is often everyone's favourite horse to back.
Is that enough euphemisms?
As Yoda Once said...
to Luke during his 'Jedi training'...."That is why you fail." <cringe>
Microsoft's Marketing muscle-brain is mightier than...well, it's just mightier, OK!!? The answer is 'Windows Phone'!! In a world where the platform is becoming less important, the <geeks/> that inhabit the unique space-time-continuum of Redmond would insist otherwise. But in this case I sense it's just the absence of another domino falling. The one for Microsoft Office is well and truly fallen over with availability on, well anything really.
If Windows Phone is not to become the next Zune, then MSFT need to accept, again and again, not for the last time, that platform matters not any more. It's app and content. Or in this case voice app, which outside the iOS platform is still a great hunting ground.
But no, selling bricks seems to be more important. Taking this position means that a potentially big defeat has been clutched from the jaws of victory.
And another thing...
I would say in the classification of things, most 'Tech' companies with capitalisation over about $250M could be considered as 'Not-tech'. When M&A, patents and investment revenue outstrip yoy sales of home-grown talent, then we're into the world of high commerce (read, marketing, value, 'feel', urggg..).
Microsoft, successful in great part owing to the purchase of Exchange Server initially, likewise SQL server and many others. They V. rarely write code-up. Does this preserve their 'tech' status?
As for the luvvies, well yes, Facebook is luvvie-tech, Twitter even more so, PiInterest the pinacle since there's no requirement for comprehension of sentences.
My 2 cents says that the modern political scene is equivalently luvvie-fied so vacuous media concerns beget vacuous polititians, beget....etc.
Not at all, I would cite this as a portent of Bing as the 'fastest search engine that nobody uses'. But then most of the most elementary arguments in this thread leave me with a pained look, so a cheap jibe is all I could manage.
My Gameplay borders on the furthest edge of obscurity, that is I probably enjoy something like an arcade game every Royal Abdication or so. But I can't help thinking about this that this guy has done the right thing.
Say nothing - the game's fraternity might notice the difference. Are we talking sensual sub-conscious super-detailed physiological changes here or merely the rendering of an action figure in a game? I still laugh and walk away whe I see these games because the basic concept of running looks comical. Would the female figures appear any more butch than they would be as modelled by males? I somehow doubt it. Voices, ok, okayyy. And the company gets away with it - no dramas.
Say what he's said - an honest Joe. If he was putting on a panto would there be moral outrage that a Mare Panto horse would be played by Males undeneath? Is there a difference?
Thumbs up from me.
Re: Quite Like It
Exactly. Simple is good. If simple is boring, then boring is good too.
(sexy can sometimes be good too, but this leads to complication, I'm told, which can be bad)
Re: Or the alternative opinion
Oh yeah, sure.
So you want to be on a waiting list for a corporate slab of complexity that has no apps to talk of, doesn't fit on your lap properly, is heavy, short on battery life, loved by no-one, requires endless updates (/fixes), runs a fisher-price interface yet still gets laughed at by children?
If that ain't paying too much for crappiness, I don't know what is. ChromeOS 'just works' :-D
Re: It's your fault
That's right Steve, then we could all have a single geo-lo and no data redundancy at all. I'm not going to fall for the old NSA/Orwellian barb there since there are so many good jokes to Make about msft before we even get to that :-)
Re: Surely this is just Microsoft Research under a different name?
So let's see then...
the group's "Principal Member of Technical Staff" explained it would tackle "hard and interesting problems", specifically "in the areas of systems, networking, distributed computing, UX design, devices, cloud, mobility, machine learning/artifical intelligence, big data and datacenter technologies".
I'm trying to think of one of these areas where Microsoft has been an innovator in the first place. UX design maybe, but I don't think the 'hard and interesting problems' amount to anything more than making their own Win8x interfaces appeal to more than Campi Micronormalus. I know what I mean....
Re: new borderless application windows?
If your coding is up to scratch then you'll make sure those 'getfocus' events allow for this :-)
Re: @AC, whatever. (was: whatever.)
Girls, girls! Stop.
It's always *so* amusing watching 2 egos in these threads. It's a discussion forum with an open agenda (it's about Linux, huh?). I'm not sure what the signal or noise anecdotes really signify, but you make up now and be nice. And at the end of the day it's about Ubuntu, which I believe cites the meaning to be (of a few): "humanity towards others". Be nice.
Computer says no
Rod Hall - technology analyst - right. Financial Analyst and proponent of the ultra-commodity. If it rained soup, he'd be out with a fork. Apple is a market maker. Rod is a follower. Good luck in the new job, Rod. Oh, good luck with the future too.
Re: A drop in the bucket
"all the drossy, rubbishy, copy-of-a-copy type apps that abound. The Windows Phone store has markedly fewer of these"
That's right - just copies of apps that are already successful on the other 2 non-Disney platforms which some onanistic snerk decided would be 'cool' to do on WINDOWS. No humans use these.
"According to the article, there are atleast 20000 of these in the Windows Store, thanks to the Windows app studio. Prepare for more."
That's also (probably) right - equivalent to 20,000 leagues under the sea, to lend the metaphor used of the Titanic earlier. Prepare to ignore.
Re: If food is not "organic", it logically must be "inorganic"
I think you're going back to the 'luxury goods=luxury prices' argument made earlier.
But just to pour oil on the flames, as it were, 'food' is not organic, its the method by which it is grown. If you tried to certify your Granddad's plot from 1952 you would have a really harm time getting certification with even the natural permaculture in use. He would have used whatever poison or killing mechanism possible to murder slugs and the like (table salt, for example). (They still tasted good though!)
I love the idea of organic and quite definitely it will result in removing the known health risks associated with pesticides. But that is not the premise of the report. It also does not talk of GMO food (y'know, purple tomatoes, bug-proof corn and all that), nor artificial additives or amount of processed foods as a percentage consumed. In fact for me, the report itself seems of no value to anyone, but the problem may be that the data is similarly useless too.
Re: I saw a Surface...
I rooted a Galaxy tab 3 and installed Ubuntu. It's very flaky but an idea of what's possible without 'droid or an iPad. Unity takes some getting used to , but it's fun and fast. More like an Uncle on Acid at a school disco. Old code, fast and unpredictable!
Or 'buntu with a modern laptop goes like a steam train.
Re: When will the next name change be?
Aha! Microsoft are far too clever for you, I'm afraid. I sat in a convention room during a TechEd demo where the froth-men were showcasing what was to become Azure. The room was full of socially delinquent geeks (sorry, employees) who were sworn to non-disclosure, however recording the event on a Windows phone, secret slides and all was ok.... The codename for Azure at the time? Red Dog.
Never underestimate the power of the er, Red side.
But I agree, any negative sentiment around Windows will probably only be polarised by the name Microsoft and (still) confused by the identity of 'Azure'.
And where is Larry Ellison and his huge submersible when a lonely nation needs him? Just like many of this list, famed and wowed for vacuous meanderings, followed by lots of, well, cash.
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