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True, but I think Google have managed to change people's perception of what to free means (with respect to reliability and longevity of service). I would rather pay because then I can complain if something goes wrong. Companies still have to pay for the free storage they offer, if it isn't coming from your wallet that creates an element of uncertainty. The very reason this type of deal needs a backup is because it's free to you. You can't guarantee the companies strategy will pay off so you stand to lose the free service. I just don't understand why people get upset at the company in situations like this. They either can the service or continue to run it at a loss and possibly go bankrupt at which point you lose the service anyway. No point being angry at them. Free services come and go, they often require something from the users like watching adverts, which people bitch about Do they reduce them and make less money then can the service. If you want to ensure the service pay for it, otherwise there's a fair chance it might stop at some point. Seems they have been very fair in allowing people 2 months to get their days off.
Re: Penis Head
So do femidoms come in different sizes? From prom night to Wayne's granny hooker?
Re: Who would want to ask for a 'Small'?
True, there was an article by the BBC on their news site about that. Every so often a group of individuals would deliberately read it to get it on the most read section on the front page. They most have orchestrated quite a campaign as it 'popped up' quite often.
There is some modest variation between some ethnicities and therefore to a slightly lesser degree by location (due to increased mobility) . The actual amount isn't that much. I would also question the sample size as to eliminate all the possible variables you would have to do a lot of measuring !
Well caught :) my apologies, you are odd course correct.
Have they ever shown a movie that included any scenes of the beast with two heads? It would seem rather contradictory if they had!
Can't see the problem with this being shown later at night? Methinks perhaps it is not the 'sexual reference' being inappropriate but rather a religious prejudice \ prudishness on the part of a few individuals in a position of power with half an excuse acting as a fig leaf.
Oh gosh, how terrible, I shall call the rspca at once!! ;)
They tried that business model and for one reason or another the sums didn't work out. It was either from the advertising budget to sell other services, subsidised by profit from paid subs (although with google et al able to offer very cheap space thats a tough market) or just money to grow market share or a combination, it just didn't make sense. They have given warning and you can transfer to another provider. Theres plenty of them around, it's easy to pickup 5gb for free, you can even get 50gb for free from a few places. Owncloud is another option, either on your home pc if you are happy securing that otherwise a VM or a VPS would be another way.
It will be interesting to see if any of the major cloud providers jump on this, if they have any sense they will offer a gratis migration service for the data to help capture the refugees. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
I wonder what this will mean long term. MS \ Google will probably have a 'free' (at the point of use) tier for a hell of a long time if not forever but what it will mean for box \ dropbox \ tresorit etc will be interesting to find out. Dropbox probably has enough momentum and paid subs. The rest may go the same way.
Re: Fine by me
I understand (and to a point agree) with what you are saying but what really bothers me is that these companies are allowed to bribe, sorry lobby, politicians that we elect and we pay every month to pass laws that suit themselves and not the general good. If there is logic in reducing the tax companies pay (and there may well be) then this should be done properly. A by the back door approach screws local companies who aren't large enough to fiddle the books and Germany has shown exactly how important small to medium sized local companies are to an economy. The sooner we reign in the brown bag approach to law making the better, laws should not be for sale and should offer equal protection.
Re: Subtle thinking
Whilst making another euro or two off the exchange rate spread, because they get you coming, going and then charge you for making you wait in the middle, and you'll be damn grateful for it thank you very much.
However, at least Euro banks (especially UK ones) have some sanity when it comes to electronic transactions. A sort code and an account number and an amount is all you need to make a transfer for free within the UK and it's usually done within an hour or two. I REALLY miss that side of it over here, here it's yeah write a check, email a picture of it to the other person and they can use our uber l33t banking app to add it to their account in a few days time, maybe.
Re: I think Bitcoin will die a death very soon
We abandoned the gold standard long ago, but pay off the attraction of gold and silver was always that they had limited usefulness but we're hard(ish) to obtain but people wanted them. The strength of a currency will always be determined to some degree by what people have sunk into it. Bit coins probably have some future to them as some folks have quite a lot sunk into it, even if it's just via their electric bill, they test will be how it matures, adapts to regulation etc.
Re: Subtle thinking
Oh dear dear, you really are not seeing the issue here. The 25% the nice chaps at the bank cream off is a predictable fee for a service rendered. This is entirely different to the inherently volatile nature of bitcoins. The fact that even Carol Vorderman couldn't predict how much you will normally end up paying the bank for whacking a button on the computer (which they normally graciously allow you to whack for them via internet banking) isn't instability, no, it is a representation of how complex the nature of their job is. However, lucky soul you, it is possible to mitigate some of this by, for a token fee payable to the parasites, sorry bankers, to bet against currency shifts to ensure that the value of the transaction will not fall by an unpredictable amount, but rather by the quite predictable fee levied. Any loss in value of the original transaction is then made up by whichever poor sod the banks conned into securing the transaction, seemingly of late, by refusing to loan them money unless they did so or just by using your pension funds. Then of course they extracted a fee from them for that as well.
There are days I think I chose the wrong career, then I am reminded I have a soul.
If you had ever had to purchase replacement batteries for an AED you would not find them in any way calming! Biggest con going.
Re: How refreshing
sorry, Nikon not non :) Phones auto correct got the better of me again.
Re: How refreshing
I wonder if they are involved in this year's stupid patent case I.e. Non vs the company currently renting the name polaroid over making a camera that is also small and white.
Re: I wonder if the lawyers at Morrison & Foerster
I'm sure Apple will innovate a larger screen phone next year! Then expect a lawsuit against htc, samsung, LG et al for copying their phablet.
Hmm odd that a bank would be against regulation ;) The cynic in me believes what they find most attractive about it is the lack of regulation. Cue the next global financial collapse.
Redcar, the Bath of the North East, thank you I needed that :) Will they be putting transmitters on the 'vertical pier' ? Make mine a lemon top from Pacittos :)
This must be a tactic to sell more phones. Perhaps it is because I am male, but if I am stressed a phone that flashed up a message telling me to breathe will very quickly find itself implanted in a nearby wall requiring a quick insurance claim. No prizes for guessing where they would put the male sensors.
Re: cars are not computers
Hey Apple hired a fizzy drinks guy, that worked out well for them ;) <cough>
Re: A little late
Thanks, unfortunately we don't have any chase on island here :) We do have a chase dual US UK account (well two linked accounts, one for each currency) but tend not to use it because of the lack of chase branches here and the cards for it didn't have chips.
Re: A bodacious attempt, it sits well with this commentard.
Would it not have been smarter to include £500 to sweeten the deal? Recouped by a few bets with fellow students about getting the article published.
Re: A little late
Yup, not seen a card here with a chip yet although they may be on the way. Mind you they still use cheques a lot which speaks volumes. To many small banks, to many fiefdoms, the banks love to protect their income from selling you cheque books and charging businesses for cashing cheques. It's a pain in the backside traveling as many countries don't take non chip cards so I have to keep an account running in the UK just for the plastic.
Yes, but that was Fox news which is basically Sesame Street minus the facts and with worse maths.
Re: At that moment Skizz realised he was never going home . . .
It's puts into perspective what the Apollo landings achieved. Safely landing men on the moon and returning them 45 years ago. Albeit with an insane budget but without SAP!
ssssshhh you're leaking their top secret pooch humping strategy!! Or is this a public bid for the CEO position?
So phone or RT will go or merge. I thought as much, they changed Windows enough to work on tablets with metro, phone is growing up and can cope with large screen phones so tablets are onlya small step away. The big question is can they make RT run phone apps and maybe some more full desktop apps (and phone SOC'S continue to develop fast enough to accommodate that) or will phone mature fast enough to cover phones and low end tablets with new atom chips making full win 8 higher end tablets more competitive.
Or will they screw it up entirely and scrap RT and phone and embark on an entirely new mobile OS, just because it's the last sensible thing to do, like RT was.
I still don't understand why they needed RT, couldn't they have just developed phone more? Especially given they could put full Windows on tablets as well. Apple and Google seem to have managed on using their phone OS on tablets, given between them they basically have the entire market between them.
Re: Silly question but any, you know, *operating* screens ?
Very true, and not only does it need to evolve to a product, it needs to keep pace with the developments of products already on sale and developing u.e. higher ppi screens and wider gamuts etc
Nice to see it moving along, some more competition should be good, better longevity will be great. Now start knocking out some 8k screens please!
Re: New Heads
Geez new heads aint cheap!! :)
I think it's going back, it's either faulty or HP are a drastically different company from the one that made the 500C \ 890 \ 1200C. After finally scrapping the 1200C I got an epson 1400 (with CIS and Dump canister thing for the waste from cleaning) and it's been awesome besides getting clogged now and again due to a minor amount of dust and less minor heat and humidity. The 8600 just seems to get nowhere near half the pages it should (even allowing for optimistic calculations from HP), chunters away often to itself (hence the cleaning comment) and cost more to keep than a coke habit. I got it to take the load off the epson which is mostly used for photo proofs now, but I think for 20 bucks for 600ml of ink for the epson I'll just buy another epson and a cis once that one dies. For something that cost a couple of hundred dollars and only get's used to print letters \ invoices etc it hasn't lived up to my expectations given my past HP experiences. Could always just be broken as you say :)
Re: I use VI! ;-)
Well said. It's an awesome idea, so awesome I can be bother putting exactly no effort into it ..... inspiring!
As for vi :) Genuine question from someone who uses pico \ nano , what would be the benefit to learning \ using vi? I just started with pico and never really found a need to learn vi but I guess given its popularity there must be good reasons.
Exactly. This has just made buying a small yacht massively more attractive than flying.
There seems to be some kind of syndrome or something related to mobile phones, people assume because they cannot hear the other person well (loud environment or just deaf) or perhaps simply because they cannot see them in front of them they need to shout into their phones. The idea of being crammed in box for 12 hours with several hundred Chuck and Marges screaming into their phones how they don't know how to use their phone and why isn't their a mcdonalds on board is just too much.
Probably cheaper to run than my HP 8600 which apparently also requires a near vacuum and replacement cartridges (which seem to mostly be used in head cleaning) cost the same as a car. If I can fill the tank on my car for less than an inkjet printer there is an issue.
Re: Samsung Ordered By Jury To Pay Apple $290M In Patent Damages
Exactly, didn't samsung say that it was spending something like 13Bn on marketing next year? I truly sad fact in itself.
For fines to be effective they have to be proportional to both the level of offense (in this case personally I don't think it was too big an issue) and the ability of the person to pay (like how some countries speeding fines are proportional to your income). A certain foreign owned petrochem plant in the UK flares off spec product because the fines are cheaper than paying for proper disposal, how is that fine effective? Sure it suits the people who created the fine as a revenue generating measure, but the stated purpose of reducing pollution? not fit for purpose.
Sure part of the purpose of a fine is restitution which should be strictly linked to the impact of the transgression, but the punitive deterrent part should be scaled on the means of the perp. I'm not sure there was any huge offense in the first place in the appsung case so the above is meant to be a more general comment.
Re: Yeah, right
"'For Apple, this case has always been about patents and more money"
Joking aside, this case isa perfect example of a broken I P system. We need patents, copyright and trademarks, we also need standards. We need to create a system that allows people / companies who invest in research to have a fair chance of earning income from their research appropriate to the importance of the invention. That doesn't mean we should award patents for unoriginal ideas, we shouldn't allow companies to hold others to ransom over patents needed for a standard (standards need mandatory patent pools), we need a single arbiter of what is valid (who needs to be unbiased and qualified) and parasites who game the system need to be drowned in a vat of boiling snot.
Then if we ever manage to overcome all the vested interests (I.e. scum making money from a broken system) and make that happen world peace should be a doddle.
Re: So, while we can...
Ahhhh you seem to misunderstand. When you say things about rich people (that may or may not be true) you are obviously a terrorist, as you are in the UK it would be the NSA who would know about you and your email address courtesy of the you break my laws and I'll crap on your constitution act between these two great nations, home of democracy and the free world.
Re: But does that mean...
Only if I can still say it is my honest opinion that Tony Blair is a cockwomble . Sadly we would both likely be right.
The real issue is trying to judge if a statement is an opinion and or or substantiated fact which are both fine or uninformed shyte. The latter is not ok. The real test will be if this law is then accessible to normal people or just trust fund babies who are videotaped cheating on their wives in a basement with some rather fine ladies with whips.
Whilst that is true, they frequently rule along party lines which is a little unsettling given they are supposed to be the final arbiters of federal law not law makers. Methinks they know who put them there :) and as you say that person also selected them for their opinions. Sadly this just makes a mockery of the system. They should make judgments based upon their professional opinion of the law, not their personal beliefs \ cloud father diktats.
That's great, so the Pebble is practical and sensibly priced. I did look at it when it was posted on kickstarter but I figured I would wait to see what functionality people added. Perhaps it's just me but whilst it is well built, well priced and isn't hobbled by a short battery life, it lacked any killer features. It's good, but is there something there that wows you. Useful yes, awesome? Having said that, it's the smart watch I would most likely buy.
It doesn't work because retards keep voting for the party their daddy voted for or for whoever tells the most lies on TV. The legal approach won't work, the only chance (and I agree it is a microscopic chance) is to make it a political point. If you want to stop this spying no court will do that. The buck stops with the politicians. They authorized it, they have let it grow, they pick the damn judges who you want to stop it. You seriously thought they would? That's cute ;)
yup and how does one get selected to sit on SCOTUS? You are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. That is where their loyalty lies, not the constitution. In England high court judges are selected by the Judicial Appointments Commission (then confirmed by the queen) which is made up largely of legal professionals of one nature or another and they select based upon merit, not political loyalty.
Very true, but so is voting. It doesn't even have to come down to voting for another party, you choose at the primary stage, challenge candidates to end this overreach. Sure a large chunk of them will misremember their promises (you can keep your doctor, period. ) but it's pretty much the only route for attack left. SCOTUS is an always has been a sham, it's political and if there's one thing a court should not be, it is partisan \ at the whim of political parties.
Exactly, it's pretty expensive given what it delivers and it's too 1.0 right now. I have a decent, cheapest watch right now ($100 \ 70 quid citizen ecodrive) which any $300 smart watch should at least match in a few areas.
It's a given that battery life will not match, but 3-4 days should be a reality and the battery should be replaceable. Apple probably have an advantage there as they have a retail network who can probably deliver instore battery changes.
It should be waterproof and robust. It doesn't need to be able to go to 200ft, but should cope with basic snorkeling and skin diving (30ft give or take, if a lardy yorkshire prop can do it, a $300 watch should be able to) plus the occasional bang against a rock.
The screen should be daylight readable without killing the battery.
Now once you have a few basics matched you then need some very convincing reasons for me to shell out the extra cost. From what I have seen it has some nice features, but no killer awesomeness. There will always be people who buy stuff because it's new, but theres the rest of us who need compelling reasons. I bought a note 3 because it's freaking awesome, for me it'd entirely worth the $700. $300 to avoid having to pull your phone out of your pocket to see who the email was from? (then you'll actually pull the phone out anyway to respond half the time). Oh and I will likely need to buy another in 2 to 3 years whereas a normal watch will last considerably longer and isn't a theft magnet?
The idea has potential, but I think they are lacking some killer practical uses, the price is too high and there are too many compromises, lets see what future ones manage (and even current ones once independent devs start rolling stuff out). Perhaps there is potential for GPS \ satnav related uses?
Re: Every dictator thinks he's the good guy
Erm, Syria? Ok it wasn't officially an invasion that was being planned, but rather the precursor. Otherwise yes, spot on :) And yes, we do tend to follow the states into every conflict going, yet have trouble getting them to assist us (late to two world wars, never turned up to the Falklands and lets not mention Rwanda etc).
I think we are all missing the bigger issue here, the authors use of the word tweeple. Such a disgrace should not go unpunished!
or perhaps because 'the cloud' was touted as (and one of it's major selling points infact) invulnerable to outages. I don't think anybody is suggesting that inhouse systems fair much better, but when the marketing coke hounds sell something based strongly upon a strength that is then repeatedly shown to be absolute ballcocks in practice it is only fair to point and giggle.
The reality is that the concept of cloud computing probably is a lot more resilient, however it is left in the hands of human cloud wranglers who are, as always, a major source of all chaos in the universe. The next obvious step would be a distributed network that controls itself and removes humans from the equation. Perhaps a suitable name would be skynet??
Re: Those things won't fix it
Or even better, they could actually deliver what people really want, rather than having to 'educate them' on what they haven't realized what they want but that a conglomerate of middle management and marketing bods would prefer they want.
You point on pricing is correct. I'm not sure I agreed with their idea of making a significant margin on their gen 1.0 surface products. You could buy android and apple tablets with a higher spec for the same or less. When you are after market share against two mature competitors there is some mileage in forgoing immediate profit to carve out your share of the market.
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not saying they should price it at predatory levels, just closer to normal oem levels rather than appleesque 35% margins.
Congratulations! You missed the point by so far you might actually hit it in the ass going the other way.
Ipads and Iphones use the SAME OS. There may be a few apps which do not work on one of the other because of a specific hardware requirement (just as some apps don't work on older generations of phones) but basically they are the same OS and apps written for one stand a very good chance of working on the other.
MS could have used Winphone on tablets, they could have waited one generation of intel atom chips and used Win8 on tablets, instead Balmer glued a pooch under his desk for easy access the decided to create an entirely new, incompatible tablet OS. Yes it utilizes metro, which on a tablet or a phone is a decent UI. The problem is there are two mature and competent ecosystems already out there so there would need to be a very compelling reason to buy a different system. Full win32 compatibility would be one, even the ability to reuse winphone app purchases would be another (like you can on android and ios) but MS decided to shoot themselves in both feet whilst walking a tightrope. Now win8 tablets are beginning to make sense, winphone is gaining some traction, they are going to have to put winnets out of our misery. At best it will eat some win8 tablet sales where consumers get confused (and therefore end up feeling ripped off and buy apple or google next time), the reality is that they will simply can the platform in a few years. WinRT is being eaten away by WP phablets at one end and Win8 Tablets at the other end and there was precious little market for it in the first place.
They aren't creating a market, they are trying to fight their way into a mature market and seem to be going about it entirely the wrong way. They failed to leverage their advantage in x86 compatibility (Apple proved with rosetta what could be done if you really wanted to) and they actively handicapped their product because some manager decided he didn't want winRT being a threat to WP or Win8. Net result, billion dollar losses and a product that is DOA. There aren't many second chances in this business, even good companies \ products fall (webos, crackberries). The sooner MS drops their arrogance, realises what they can do well and plays to that the sooner they will do well. They can throw all the billions they want at winRT for as long as they can afford, but that won't change the fact that their are better options out there, already established and taking their business.
Re: Not entirely retarded.
Fair call, but couldn't they achieve that by evolving win phone? They forced Metro onto the desktop, they recreated a mobile phone os, then created a 3rd system for tablets. Neither Apple or Google (in the long term) found that necessary. I could understand them dropping the win32 option if they had kept compatibility with the phone apps. Whilst surface rt isn't terrible, it's up against very good competition, it's overpriced and it could leverage more of Microsoft 's core strengths.
The most appealing tablets right now(for me) are the full win 8 ones with atom processors. Nokia have some great large screen phones on the way. There won't be much room left for winnets, even Microsofts own products will be eating its tiny market share.
Re: Beep beep
You are correct, but they started representing 'special interests' about the same time hundreds of millions of morons decided to vote for whoever told the most lies in the media, leaving politicians in a position where they had to whore themselves to the highest bidder if they wished to keep their job.
We get the government we deserve.
How does one patent an animal? Can I patent bacon? Is there not prior art in the form of the animal itself?
Well summed up.
Making an entirely new, incompatible, 3rd ecosystem within MS was frankly retarded. You have none of the compatibility that would make it attractive to people with desktops. You have a decent interface for the format, but it isn't compatible with your actual mobile ecosystem.
Will they ever grow out of believing they are the only choice and that they can dictate what we want. Apple and Google both have competent offerings. Why they he'll would we buy winnets? The biggest thing the could have done is app compatibility with desktop, the second was with mobile, they opted for the short bus approach.
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