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My main concern in all of this boils down to one single word.
They will turn this whole debacle into a fuckup of thermonuclear proportion.
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My main concern in all of this boils down to one single word.
They will turn this whole debacle into a fuckup of thermonuclear proportion.
Apparently I've been involved in an accident, not fault of my own, and I'm entitled to compensation.
It must have been a serious one as I have no recollection of it, therefore I can only assume that I sustained a nasty head injury causing amnesia.
That's got to be worth hundreds of thousands of pounds in compo.
So, considering the seriousness of the incident, my amnesia - I really have no memory of anything to do with an accident, and my wish not to clutter up the courts with long drawn out cases, can you just send me a cheque for £50,000 and we'll call it done?
Please pass this on to whoever is in charge of the organisation.
Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
Whilst claims that he "invented" wireless transmission have been well and truly shown to be false, and no, it wasn't Hertz - he's the one who found "waves", it was David E Hughes who inadvertently discovered "Wireless" while he was studying the work of Hertz and others. At first he dismissed it as nothing but a bit of inductive coupling, so did noting with it. It was Tesla that used Hughes' findings to develop wireless transmission & reception.
But that's all by the by.
What Marconi did was commercialise it. He was the Steve Jobs of early wireless, his company was the Apple of the field. To the point that he/the company filed patents for things that others had previously invented, or were simply "prior art".
The salesman said "Never mind the quality, feel.the width".....
Another £10/month for the Sky Subscription I guess....
I thought it was February, not April.
That's earmarked for ESMCP. If Ofcom put for sale signs up, the Home Office will tear them down! They want it exclusivel, and before 2022 most certainly! ESN is due to go live next year, with all services migrated to it by mid 2019
The way you're all talking is that the Police are the only service that needs communications. They are quite primitive in theirs, other than their new penchant for mobile PNC checks, ANPR and other online matters. The big data users are the Ambulance services with their data mobilisation systems, electronic patient report form systems, and telemetry data from their patient monitoring equipment.
The Fire Services can make use of online building mapping, with greater incident information sent to them relating to potential hazards recorded about any given site. Though much of that data could be held offline in the mobile data terminal allowing much faster lookup on-the-fly.
The ESN is due to go live in 2016, BUT that's not all of it, the 700MHz spectrum will be for an exclusive LTE network to cover this sceptred isle, which will be compatible with the networks that are to be built around the world - yes, for once, the plan is a GLOBAL (as much as it can be!) standard for the Emergency Services, such that in the event of a proper disaster, people from one country can arrive in another one, with their own comms kit which will work straight away (roam!) with the ESN in that region.
There's more to this than meets the eye, but the main matter is to get off of Airwave as soon as is practicably possible, it is the millstone around their neck, and something created by the previous government who should have kept it in-house, not farmed out to private organisations / vulture capital companies.
One final couple of shots - the old VHF and UHF networks had much better coverage than even TETRA does, BUT it didn't have the capacity for multiple "conversations", point-to-point calling, and was not secure at all. It was the security issue that sold TETRA to the Home Office, who then forced it on all of the emergency services. Neither the Fire Service, nor the Ambulance services in the UK needed that kind of secure system with the lauded "interoperability", because at no time will a police dispatcher talk to a fire or ambulance crew, or any other combination. It is all done at command level and passed down the chain. And what's more, Fire services still use UHF for BA operations, not TETRA/Airwave. Once again, all about command and control, as well as cost and effectiveness.
Remember to end all of your text messages with 73 FB OM HI HI AR (or KN)
Will it use 45 or 50 baud RTTY I wonder?
The climate has changed up and down for millions of years.
People used to migrate to work around it.
Now we build expensive settlements and sit there like King Canute.
Global population is more of a problem for the planet than climate change (which I do not deny, nor care about - it happens). The human race needs to stop breeding - cold hard fact.
Adapt or die.
What! Happened! To! The! Exclamation! Marks! In! The! Title!?
No problems with my Sony Xperia Z Ultra, thats bigger and doesnt bend. Who's a clever little Sony?
They need to keep developing new slick funky technically advanced and affordable devices for people to buy. Marketing men don't do development, they often spend their day trying to polish turds. You can't polish a turd, you can roll it in glitter to make it look better, but it's still a turd.
my business used to take credit cards - only via an Barclays PDQ terminal - no online facilities etc. PCIDSS brought in a more than double rise in my costs, and thats without taking the amount of time given to form filling and admin into consideration.
While I was lucky that I could self certify, it made it all uneconomic, so I told Barclays where to poke it, and if someone wants to pay by card, they can use PAYPAL.
They should.spend their time on looking at ways to make card payments more secure, not at punishing the retailers for not taking cash!
As I understand it, Mr Cameroon does *not* wish the UK to leave the EU, but wants the EU, particularly the EC to become more efficient, and more in tune with the electorate of all nation states, rather than it being this deaf leviathan that is hell bent on creating a monster Federal Europe. Something that the people of France, Germany, Italy, etc.. do NOT want.
It is that un-listening monster that is rearing it's head here.. "Don't listen to the UK, they're not part of what *we* want to do".
And what if what "*we*" want to do is wrong? And what the UK is saying is right?
That is my concern here. The arrogance of the issue. Whether the UK is undergoing a political upheaval is neither here nor there, it is the matter that the UK is being ignored in a matter where it has every right to be part of the process.
We're (UK) not the only country to show an anti-EU Nationalist resurgence in recent times. The French, Danes, Dutch, and others have all seen dissent grow in recent times, yet I don't see them getting the same treatment.
Perhaps we should complain to the European Court of Human Rights?
My view - better in than out, but steering the ship, not hanging over the side puking up all the time.
And a ship that only has one berth, not two! The regular movement between Brussels and Strasbourg has to stop - it costs the EU tax payers and is a total waste of money.
Not that the EU has ever wasted money before....
Excuse me, buy you'll find that an ONC is the same as the first year of degree, where a HNC is a technical equivalent, with the difference being that you HAVE to know your stuff in the exams as notes are not permitted like they are in many degree finals.
That's by the by though, it's typical to see politicians back a paper which gives them more opportunities to tax the population.
I have no disagreement that our climate is changing, just as it has for billions of years as the planet evolves. Our weather is dictated by that burning orb at the centre of our solar system, it's full effects are gradually being studied and are debunking many of the AGW hollerers spoutings.
There is no such thing as bad weather, just inappropriate clothing.
Land masses fall just as much as sea levels rise, it's always happened, and we should learn to adapt, and not keep adopting the King Canute methods of some of the alarmists.
They're busy working on an Android compatibility layer, like Jolla have in Sailfish OS, and BlackBerry have in OS 10.
I know it's going to seem like they're cutting off their nose to spite their face, but it means you hit the ground running with lots of apps available while native ones are written or ported.
The Jolla Sailfish app store is steadily growing, even as the Droid compatible layer gets improved.
Yes, this could just be a ploy to rattle Google, but Tizen is more than just a phone OS.
Must be caused by AGW.
And Apple/Samsung/Beats/Bose/IBM/Snowden/etc.. (delete as appropriate).
Why haven't there been any shock horror knee jerk reaction headlines in the Daily Mirror, or The Sun? Why hasn't the Daily Mail blamed it on immigration?
I think this story is made up.
Never happened. Like evolution, or S Club 7.
On a serious note...
If GPS was knocked out, all transmitters that use GPS as part of it's frequency locking would shut down as part of their fail-safe.
That's modern TV and Radio transmitters
That's Cellular Networks
That's Public Safety Networks.
Then we *would* be in a mess. (and back to Daily Mail/Sun/Mirror knee jerk headlines)
"You buy it for the same reason you buy designer jeans or a ferrari -- because you're rich enough and want to show it."
Along with the shell suits, Burberry caps, and jazzed up Mk5 Escorts that you also buy alongside your iPhone cos you is rich an cleverer innit.
And nobody mentioned TSR2..
There is a flying Lightening T5 in South Africa once more, another of the last 2 seaters.
I had the joys of beginning my working life with Thorn EMI - now there's another conglomerate that made its fair share of screw ups and lost opportunities with Govt backing.
One work colleague said that he hated his BlackBerry Curve and wanted a Windows phone, or an iPhone like mine..... which I pointed out to him was actually a! BlackBerry Z10.... 'is that new, I've never heard of that....' so much for marketing!
The organisation has BES7 servers, so what, I use the MS Exchange support for email.
He has gone off to hassle the IT Dept for a Z10 now.
Good job I didn't show him my Jolla phone, which I prefer in some ways to the Z10.
shot him between the eyes, it woukd be a waste of perfectly good bullet hole.
Its all about him talking up more money.
The guy is a vulture capitalist, and will stop at nothing to achieve his goals.
Sailfish is not for you, yet.
What you have to remember is that it is still in it's Beta stages of development. There are lots of things to be sorted out.
I'm using it now, and there are times when I consider putting the SIM and the sd-card back in my BB Z10.
Of the phones you suggested for 'Work Phones' then to me, it has to be the BB10 devices.
Some of your android apps will work, some won't. A bit like upgrading your PC OS. I have lots of expensive apps that I bought for MSDOS that don't run on Windows 8......
Penguin because Sailfish is proper Linux for Phones (and other embedded systems)
Desiree - oh come on, they're an awful spud.
if they'd used Maris Piper, this would have relevance for the chip industry.
Any way, spuds are not legal tender in Norfolk, its Carrots and Sugarbeet, so this is clearly an export contract.
Just because it *can* be a phone OS, doesn't mean it *has* to be a phone OS.
As has been said previously in this forum, Moblin has been used in automotive applications, among others.
Meego was touted a automotive, media devices, and much more, but only really hit the mobile world via Harmattan on the Nokia N9.
Tizen is a step further on from that, and is aimed at Intel hardware in various situations from industrial control, right through to ..... mobile devices.
SailfishOS carries on that theme. Not just aimed at mobile phones, even though Jolla have created a great "beta test" device.
So stop fretting about it "not taking off as a phone OS". If it does, it does, if it doesn't it doesn't.
Well, given that the politicians are now doubting the AGW-mongerers, would it be possible to have all of that Carbon Tax money back please?
Also, could you shred all of the laws pertaining to the b*ll*cks known as the "Carbon Footprint" and unburden industry from reams of red tape?
Re-word things along the lines of "Invest to reduce consumption and therefore long term costs" for public bodies to stop them going back to wasteful ways, whilst removing their need to employ lots of staff just to count how many calories of energy are consumed by someone pushing a pen, then offsetting it against "carbon".
As technology in power generation increases, so fuel consumption decreases, with that emissions go hand in hand.
We deserve cleaner air to breathe, and that should be the target. Achieve that, and the CO2 emissions will go with it.
And finally - the fewer of "us" there are, the lower the emissions over time, thus reducing the stress on the ecosystems to provide fuel and food.
What kind of reporting is this?
'AN HP Server'????????
Its 'A HP server'.....
Stand in the corner and face the wall for ten minutes with the Justin Beiber hat on.
Look at those little beauties... 4CX350B's, we'll soon 'ave the watts throbbing through you!!
Where's the Hancock Angle icon for this? Well we'll have a beer then!
Glaciers have always moved out to the sea, it happens because of physics more than climate. And as they move, they wear out their own "groove" in the surface, making is smoother as they go, effectively reducing the friction caused by the rock that they move over. Therefore, the accelerate.
This information has only recently been "realised" by scientists.
Engineers would have told them years ago if they'd ask.
AGW is still utter bollocks.
The climate IS changing, it's natural, stop using it as a excuse to tax people, and combat the biggest threat to the planet - people. There are too many. Population explosion is a far bigger threat to the planets resources.
So you're telling me that the Chinese have sent a Rover to the moon surface, left it in the dark and cold, and it started after two weeks?
I didn't know the AA went out to the Moon?
I have a BB Z10, and I have to say I'm more impressed with it than I am with wifey's Sammy Galaxy in many ways, now it has the ability to run Android Jellybean apps, it's even better, though the Android compatibility layer seems to ramp up the processor to flat out and thus eat battery - meaning if I use droid apps it'll only last a day of average use, instead of just shy of two days.
It's a thoroughly underestimated phone, and reviewers that have slagged it have been either iPhiles or Droid fanatics.
And market watchers have slagged BB off for not selling more phones - though when I seem how many of my friends still have BB7 devices, they'll replace those one day, and I can see them staying with the brand. We have to remember that the sales figures are often new smartphone sales, and there a lot of upgrade users that have been tied into two year contracts....
BB's move to be less consumer orientated and concentrate on core business customers is the right thing to do and hold off all of those BYOD insecure devices that came in because they're more "bling".
Enough of that....
I am the first one - well that's what it says on my T-Shirt. I'm an early adopter of a Jolla device. You have to understand that this is a "beta" device and expect lots of updates in the coming months, though compared to the first Android device I ever handled, this product is much more functional and mature! No it's not a well worn OS, fairly well sorted and stable, with lots of native apps, this is an "upstart OS", it's stable, and it runs Android apps as well as Android pretty much. Some apps don't run yet, but as the compatibility layer is improved things will get better.
This time next year will see how well Jolla is growing. I expect at least one new model by then, and a big movement in the OS.
It's already selling like a hot cake in the home market of Finland. Their initial carrier DNA has it out selling the iPhone 5S since launch!! Other Finnish carriers are now trying to do deals to take it, and soon others will without a doubt - "Beta phone" or not.
I had thus on my Z10 back in October. Works very well, but as the man says, eats battery.
I now have my Jolla phone, yes its a beta testers delight, but has Android support native without need for add-ons, and doesn't chew electrons in the process.
In some ways I prefer the Z10, but the rapid development of the Jolla Sailfish OS is going to overtake it soon I feel.
I reckon that BB should have been to market two years sooner their BB10 OS and the Z10, because if they were, the market would be a different place.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing when you're wearing blinkers !
Who's going to start a book on whether it's Jellystone or Naples that blows first?
US scientists once said "any time in the next 3 to 3000 years..." might seem a long time to you and I, but that's a sniff in Mother Earth's existence.
Naples - well, "expect an event within decades".
With the decimation to the population that one of these babies going up could cause, who's going to pay the AGW taxes then? I mean, the Carbon Footprint from Yellowstone would be [Jeremy Clarkson voice] absolutely HUGE [/Jeremy Clarkson voice].
Visionary - Steve, Steve Elop, hello, is that you?
Ordered mine from the webshop a few days ago. Waiting patiently.
As a previous N900 and then N9 owner, this is the logical progression.
Currently using a BlackBerry Z10 which also has a gesture based interface and also runs android apps, Candy Crush works perfectly thank you. ;0)
I'd still use my N9 now, but the battery is shot, and this Goosebury has enough life for a hard days work, plus it's removable.
Someone mentioned the legal premis of Laches.
Sureley if these patents have remained unchallenged for so long, then Laches applies and it's case dismissed. Nortel's creditors laugh their $4.5bn heads off as the Rockstar cartel falls flat on its face.
But I have to agree with the comments that this is a mess created by the USPTO.
Software / process patents that are vague should never be granted.
In another shock revelation, US President Barack Obama was found to also be not resident in England so does not pay UK taxes. An outrage says the Sunday Times.
I bought a Hyundai T10 slablet a while back. I went for it for a number of reasons, it was quite fast - 1.6GHz A9 quad core Samsung Exynos 4412 processor, "gb ram, 16Gb storage with a micro SD slot for expansion, all the usual WiFi, GPS etc, but the main reason - GSM/3G connectivity. As a phone, it works just as well as any other droid device. Comes with an earphone/mic jobby, but obviously supports Bluetooth borg implants just the same, and has a HDMI output if for some reason you want to connect it to something bigger.
The battery is 6500mAh, which gives good life.
5Mp camera on the back, 0.3 on the front for webcam use.
Unlike many other slabs, it's metal (aluminium) cased.
Most are shipped with Android ICS installed, though JellyBean was released for them a while ago.
Antutu reports 15580 as it's score, which is a fair bit quicker than the Nexus 7 and 10.
The down side - it comes pre-loaded with lots of Chinese market apps which take a little getting rid of, and by default, it's set to Mandarin out of the box!
The plus side - they sell for around £220 on eBay.
They make a 7-incher, the T7 too.
There are some people on here that have as much idea about RF as this "inventor".
Having 100 transmitters connected together does not simply give you 400W. It gives you 100 4W signals.
Do you understand fourier analysis? Go work it out... Also Vsum=V1+V2=Asinωt+(-Asinωt)=0
Using one transmitter and 100 combined 36dBm amplifiers would get you 400W, but that's actually still a single 400W transmitter then and not legal.
The FCC in the US permit 30dBm (1W) into a 6dBi gain aerial for point to point links = 4W EiRP.
For general use, the FCC and the EU rules are the same = 20dBm EiRP.
Not sure if it's still the case, but France used to be 13dBm EiRP.
So they moved from one (two) Burning Platforms to another (WinPho8) which has torched the company value and led them to this.
The investors that have stuck by Nokia will no doubt be big funds that will be waiting to cash in their chips for a profit. Now they'll be looking to cut their losses and take whatever Redmond offers - OR they'll reject it, kick Elop out and turn the ship in a different direction.
Maybe Carl Icahn could step in and help rescue Nokia??????
I give them two years tops, and they'll all need a "Jolla".
I'm going to patent 'The use of a generic word, phrase, or name for.the purpose of product or service naming or identification or branding, including the use of one or more words abbreviated, reduced, reversed, or converted into an anagram such as it/they may be joined together, preceeded by, or folllowed by, with or without any form of punctuation mark..
just going to file that and get the lawyers on the phone.
I'm also going to patent 'The use of fruit to name a company, product, or service.'
Here's the plan.
Big Bill appoints Eflop as Ballsupmores replacement.
M$ shares plummet dramatically as Marc Dillon is appointed as Nokia's new CEO. Nokia's shares surge dramatically as they announce new phones running Android and more importantly - Jolla's OS Sailfish - which brings about Nokia's worth overtaking M$, leading to Nokia buying a majority stake M$ and Dillon temporarily taking over control of Redmond.
Marc Dillon issues a memo/email to all M$ staff, talking of "Burning Platforms" - WindowsRT and Windows Phone 8 are immediately dropped, Windows development is turned towards Linux.
So, he's gone. And the stock market like it (that says a lot!)
Dear Nokia - read and learn.
Sherlock because, well just because!
AGW is all about taxation - it's a socialists dream, a cockamamy excuse to raise revenue to blow on jobs for the boys.
Real climate change is about understanding the changes to our planet brought about by the changes in sea currents, which in turn are affected by tectonic movements, and thus affect the air currents (Jet Stream etc), and so our weather is affected.
The lemmings should stop looking at short term data and look at the proper long term data to see the cycles which show that it's been warmer, and it's been colder too.
What they, the policy makers, should be concentrating on, is adapting to climate change, rather than acting like King Canute sitting on his throne on the beach commanding the waves to go back!
The way I see it - the original model used data going back to 1911, the "new" model uses data over a much narrower period.
Surely using a wider range of data produces a broader more stable model, and thus the new model is flawed and potentially inaccurate. It hardly covers one solar cycle.
I have no doubt that the earth's climate is changing, but I refuse to believe that the change is as man-made as the climatologists maintain. Only recently we heard that the sea bed was changing due to tectonic movements, and this will change under-sea currents which in turn changes sea temperatures, which changes atmospheric temperatures etc.... There's a lot more to the climate than "we're all doomed because of our carbon footprint".
Only recently, the Canadian govt released data which showed the northern polar ice sheet grew by over 11M sq.Km this last winter - the highest level for many years, and the trend in the data is increasing, not decreasing. The Antarctic ice sheet is growing, and the scientists are baffled because their computer models said that it must be melting and everyone will die.
Sorry WOPR got it wrong. Mother Nature is throwing a curved ball just as it's done for millions of years.
What is a fact is that the human population is growing at an exponential rate and nothing is being done to stem the unsustainable growth in the amount of us draining the planets finite resources. The religious zealots all over the world would have us breeding like rabbits to increase their flocks, without for once thinking about where we're all going to live, and what we're going to eat in the future.
Uh yes - http://speeddemon.us/i/HRDP-081000-DEMON.pdf
All these anal-ists talk about is Nokia's smartphone sales being not up to much.
Their Featurephone sales are doing quite well, and that's bread & butter income - along with that from NSN.
I can see Nokia quietly assisting Jolla in bringing hardware to the market, if they do, we'll get phones with good RF performance, and a nice smart UI.
I'm on my "last" Nokia at the moment - a N9, it's RF performance beats wifey's Samsung S3 dramatically. We're on the same network, and I often have 1-2 bars on the display with 3G (where available) data, where hers has no service. The only Nokia I've ever had my hands on that didn't perform well "on air" is the E7-00.
Hopefully Mr Elop will leave Nokia soon and someone with guts and drive will return the great ship Nokia back to it's proper course.
I've seen a couple of good spoof answers for their calls... if you get the silent pause before you hear background noise of the call centre (just before they speak), whisper quietly - "It's done, but there's blood everywhere", then hang up.
Alternatively, (when they call you on your mobile phone)(this is for the UK) "Sorry, the phone's going dead on my mobile, can you call me back on my landline" giving them a number of of the ICO, or Ofcom, or on my case - the direct line to the local Police control room (which I just happened to have), and I gave him my name as "Oscar Wun" - "Make sure you ask for me directly it's Oscar Wun".
Actually, you'll find the bearded Arran sweater types on HF, the microwave bands are exclusively for those with half moon glasses and proper hand tied bow ties (not yer cheap clip-on's, that's 70cm) - how could you not know that! This is boffin territory - this is where the bleeding edge development is done, the area where experimentation is the key to amateur radio use of the spectrum.
It is inevitable that Amateur Radio will lose spectrum to commercial users in the 2GHz and up region because that's where the bandwidth is that will allow the networks to provide the super fast mobile broadband that people allegedly want, because they want it now!
4G on sub 1GHz is going to be about "low" speed data, but longer range (to ensure the country is covered fully), 4G on 2GHz and up will be about high speed high bandwidth.
2-3GHz is still in the area where equipment can be made to work well and cheaply. When you go further up precision becomes more and more important as wavelength becomes millimetric, and that costs £££ that the consumer wear, and will make infrastructure hellishly expensive.
If you read the consultation from Ofcom fully, they have covered most angles in their options.
The phrase "use it or lose it" doesn't come into this conversation - it wasn't "ours" in the first place, we were just allowed to park there for a while.
And finally - increased spectrum at 146-148 and in the lowband area is unlikely UK wide as the Scottish Parliament haven't released it - apparently they're still using it for their emergency services (who all moved to Airwave years ago!!) - and their "Spectrum Manager" is a radio ham too which I find puzzling.
Wonder if the Roman Senate had this same debate when the temperature rose during their heyday? "It's all those hot baths causing it Centurion!" So, they stopped washing, died out, and we were left with the dirty smelly Medieval period where we had a mini ice age. What the hell caused that?
All this talk of "We must STOP Global Warming". Well you won't. it's like trying to cap an active volcano with a bit of tissue paper.
We should prepare to live with the change in the climate. But we can't, because our population is growing so fast that we won't have enough space for everyone to fit in or feed ourselves in about 100 years the way we're going. Only China seems to have a grip on it's population issues.
NASA recently published a report that showed the increased levels in CO2 in the upper atmosphere actually reflected more solar heat away from the planet, leading to a cooling effect.
There has been a clear up and down cycle in the climate for millions of years, ever since Apple patented it (had to get that one in), and this will continue. The tectonic plates will move, some land will rise, some will fall, islands will appear, islands will disappear. It's life.
Arqiva is what's left of the ntl: debacle that was Cabletel who went of a buying spree, buying everything telecoms related, including the IBA sites, all of the old Philips radio sites, DTELS (the privatised Home Office telecoms division), creating a monster that encompassed cable, broadcast, and public safety infrastructure & services. ntl: went into Chaper 11 insolvency when their loans were up, and they hadn't made enough money to pay them back, so it was split up into two sections. One bit (the cable side) became Virgin Media, the other bit was bought by Macquarie (an Australian investment bank) to form Arqiva.
Now the BBC's transmitter sites had been bought by the Americans (Crown Castle), who were also in the doo doo, so they sold them to NGW. Now, NGW was the conglomeration of National Grid and British Gas's communications site business. That left the UK with two big players in the marketplace. There were others also swallowed by Arqiva - including Eastern Group Telecom - who owned many radio sites in the East of England.
Then Arqiva had a good idea (for them, not the market) to merge their business with NGW forming something pretty close to a monopoly in the market.
Because they own pretty much every decent radio site in the country, Private Business Radio has suffered a decline as companies cannot afford either Arqivas high rents, or their restrictive site access practices (which costs even more per year in "accreditation" fees.
The matter of them not paying any tax - well what did you expect - they're owned by a Bank, backed by pension funds from Australia (owned/managed by Macquarie) and Canada. They have no profit because its all used to pay the interest on their loans.
Now don't mention Airwave - the network provider for the Emergency Services - also owned by Macquarie..... they don't make any money either (profit) as all of their money has to go to pay off loans.....
Not coming this way guv. It won't affect us.
At last scientists are shouting loud enough that it is dear old Sol that controls our planets climate, and is f. all to do with people driving SUV's, burning coal, etc....
Perhaps the "Warmists" will shut up and they can remove all of the tax burden that we're suffering to help stave off climate change. Stop wasting BILLIONS on studies and other rhetoric relating to our "Carbon Footprint", and just get the hell on with life.
The correct action shouldn't be "Stop Climate Change" but "Adapt for Climate Change" because it's going to happen, regardless of whether the Greens get us to return to the Stone Age.