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They do understand that a BEARD is a person of the opposite sex who marries or dates a closeted lesbian or gay person to cover up their homosexuality?
Must be a slow news day
If a customer service person calling you insane is the worst thing that happens to you this week, you've got a pretty easy life.
Build a bridge and get over it.
On the subject of websites and pricing mistakes, perhaps the author of the article should have pointed readers to their "partner" for all things legal: Out-Law.
They've got an interesting page on the topic:
it would be a reasonable expectation that customer services would be fluent in English and conversant with UK law (sorry, English or that of "the other place") irrespective of where the call centre happens to be based.
@bilat29: You kidding, right? You expect a call centre worker to know the law? I'm happy if they can speak to me in English without a 2-second delay. 3 - you hear me?
Re: In Other News, Linux Is Still A Nonentity...
And almost everyone in that number chose to install Linux, either on a clean machine or dual-boot. That percentage is a massive figure given that most people have to accept what they are given, can generally only buy PCs with Windows pre-installed or don't know/care anyway. The figure probably represents ~~20 million users.
What does choice have to do with it?
So what if linux is installed on 1.76% of the planet's desktops?
It's a nonentity, as I already wrote.
I don't see how someone choosing to install it makes it worthy in some way.
Are you saying it could have been something™ if it wasn't for the evil Gates and Jobs foisting Windows and OS X on the people with "low technical skills", those incapable of choosing to install linux?
Re: "free" OSX - what are we smoking today?
Well, OS X upgrades are free. And one's original copy of OS X comes bundled with a computer, so it doesn't have an explicit price, even if that computer clearly bears a premium price tag.
Not what the AC was saying...
If you bought an iMac which came bundled with Leopard, you aren't entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain Lion. You also can't do a free upgrade from say Lion to Mavericks as Mountain Lion is a prerequisite.
The only exception to the free upgrade idea is Mountain Lion -> Mavericks, and I think most would describe that as an update rather than an upgrade.
So can you explain how "OS X upgrades are free" as you say?
Re: In Other News, Linux Is Still A Nonentity...
An ad hominem argument implies that I was attacking a personal trait of yours.
Were you upset at being accused of being a virgin basement dweller, or of being a demented fanboi?
BTW I had chose not rise to your comment that you're "happy that there are not many people with low technical skills using Linux", as if you and other linux users were some kind of ubermensch..
Argumentum ad hominem.
(Informal logical fallacies...
Also, citing anything using a wikipedia link is the last refuge of the feeble-minded.
Now that's an ad hominem... TTFN.
Re: In Other News, Linux Is Still A Nonentity...
Actually, Linux NOT having a huge market share is a good thing for me.
I am happy that there are not many people with low technical skills using Linux, as that means that I am not targeted as often by malware that would target the less canny.
(1) Malware isn't written for linux as there is no return on investment for the writer. Virgins living in their parents' basement generally don't have credit card numbers, or any other valuable information, to steal.
(2) I guess I don't need to put a positive spin linux's dismal market share as the fanbois appear to be too deluded/demented to care.
OSX is pretty much a no-brainer and within a few hours most people would have no issue with the differences. It has a great (and critically easy to use) backup system, full disk encryption, remote desktop (without needing premium versions) and free.
Free, who told you that? Oh, you mean you burnt a copy of a friend's install disk?
That's the great thing about OS X, no pesky serial numbers or WGA...
Mavericks is a free update to Mountain Lion - which had to be bought and paid for through the Mac App Store. $20 was the price I believe.
Lion? That cost $30
Snow Leopard was $30 also.
Leopard was $120-130
In Other News, Linux Is Still A Nonentity...
Linux's market share stood at 0.62 per cent as 2008 came to a close, and has risen to 1.76 per cent as of this month.
Wow! Linux desktop market share TRIPLED from nothing to still-nothing in only five short years.
Gotta put a positive spin on it for the linux fanbois...
The "Free" Market, Eh?
Just reading about this on Wired.
Traditional dealers don't want to see the erosion of the after-sales "service" revenue, such as oil changes, etc.
Telsa apparently presents a future where cars can diagnose their own problems, and download software patches as necessary. A mechanic, sorry - technician, who scratches his arse and says "hmm, it'll take a few days to get that part" doesn't appear to figure in this plan.
I went to a music gig where one of the artists had to swap places with another because he was using Windows 8 and he couldn't do his set until Windows had finished installing updates.
For real? That's the kind of bullshit I'd expect from a linux evangelist.
There are so many things wrong with that story I don't know where to start.
A "creative" type using Windows 8? Sorry, a "creative" type using Windows full stop?
A bad workman blames his tools; this artist doesn't check his machine in advance of a gig to make sure everything still works?
Did I express my surprise at a "creative" type using Windows already? Oh yeah...
Re: Huawei offer you Android and Windows in one phone...
Yeah lets build our own stacks with over the counter GSM Radios that haven't already been compromised either by the NSA/GCHQ or whomever.... Talk about FUD! I'd prefer to have a device that was less interested in where I was, and whom I'm with. But, that line has already been crossed, so either learn to deal with it or find an old Nokia 3330...
Hey Mr Angry, my post was tongue-in-cheek.
The three other people who upvoted it understood that.
Sorry you have no sense of humour.
Huawei offer you Android and Windows in one phone...
So you can have a choice on whether you want a Chinese or NSA/GCHQ backdoor built in
They'll be running XP Embedded - which is a different thing. XP Embedded is in support until 2016 or something like that...
NCR wouldn't be trying to drum up some business now, would it?
Re: Let us all be clear about this
Apple is far from the only US company to use Eire as a tax haven.
Just for future reference:
If you're speaking or writing in English, the name of the country is Ireland.
If you're speaking or writing in Irish, the name of the country is Éire.
It always seems passive-aggressive to me to hear people from "the mainland" refer to Ireland as Eire - a bit of a post-colonial grudge perhaps?
Re: What they need is...
There was a judge from Limerick
Who had no time for cops and their gimmicks
"If you have no pens
To sign in the crims
Then your victory will have been pyrrhic"
Re. Saves the pen issue straight away!
Do British custody suits use electronic pads and a stylus? Saves the pen issue straight away!
Why use an electronic pad? That's a bit like the Americans trying to develop a fancy pen to go into space, while the Soviets used pencils...
The biro works - although the cops in this station obviously needed to tie it down with a bit of string.
And it's custody suite, not custody suit BTW...
...a game of Wank Word Bingo
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/wankword.html <- SFW
So Mr Smith, perhaps you can tell us why a charity with limited funds to purchase a secure system and skilled IT administrators cannot use ignorance as an excuse but Google, a multi-billion dollar megacorp with some of the "best technical minds in the world" working for them are perfectly entitled to use ignorance as an excuse when they are caught intentionally capturing massive amounts of communications data?
A valid point, and one I hope BPAS raises at their appeal.
Are we to assume then that you are going to eliminate all words and phrases of foreign origin from your postings?
You're going to have a bit of a job there sunshine!
I wrote "throwing random bits of the French language into a English conversation"...
Random bits of the French language ≠ "all words and phrases of foreign origin"
English is obviously not your first language as you seem unable to comprehend what I wrote. Sunshine.
"pour encourager les autres"
If only there were some form of universally accessible information resource which could help you find the answer.
I know what it means, I was being sarcastic. Throwing random bits of the French language into a English conversation just makes a person look like a tit, unless the person's name is Del Boy...
"Del, you can't speak French. You're still struggling with English"
Nothing to do with being a charity. Any organisation fined by the ICO has the right to appeal - call it democracy.
Scottish Borders Council successfully appealed their £250k fine for leaving pension records in a recycling bin in a supermarket car park. You'll find the results of other ICO appeals if you spend five minutes on Google, or even this very website.
Yes, it is a large fine. By all means let them waste more money appealing. I hope the fine stands pour encourager les autres.
What's the "pour encourager les autres" all about? Am I missing some French connection here or was that you trying to appear intelligent?
If a few web admins have to have a sleepless weekend, as they ensure their sites are as secure as possible, then some good will have come from it.
Yeah, that'll happen. And no website will be hacked again, ever.
Ouch, that's a hefty fine to hit a charity with... I hope they appeal the decision.
Still, this so-called "hacker" could have endangered a lot of womens safety if he had doxed them, as the yoof say.
Re: A rate of 40% on inactive corporate funds...
... and how many of that 4000 would be allowed to get away with paying practically nothing in comparison to their earnings to the tax man, my guess would be somewhere between none and zero,
Stop talking rubbish - that's not the point I was making and you know it.
The little guy's always had to pay his taxes while businesses can practice tax avoidance - such is life. Tax avoidance is legal unlike tax evasion, although some Daily Mail types find it convenient to blur the distinction between the two.
So they employ 4000 people there, earning a wage, paying tax and spending their money in the local community... Why would the government jeopardise that number of jobs by raising corporate taxes? Apple would just piss off to Poland like Dell did, and the government would have to make 4000 extra dole payments every week.
It wouldn't really
effect affect the economy in terms of companies pulling out and people losing jobs. I don't suppose these shell companies are actually economically active in Ireland.
Not wanting to be seen defending Apple here, but they do actually provide a lot of employment in Ireland - 4000 jobs at the last count...
The Irish government isn't about to rock that boat any time soon.
Re: Here we are again
Wikipædia ought to require real name disclosure...
Wikipædia?? I think you're using that 'æ' incorrectly, no?
Put thecrystal balls away...
It's just a bit of kite-flying - no mention in the article of where said jobs would be relocated to...
As Michael Winner used to say: "Calm down dear!" - it will never happen.
A saving of £400-600m is hardly worth the hassle anyway, given the speed at which UK.gov can piss away money on overseas aid, military spending, etc
It's A Pity...
...I can't embed images here in the comments section.
Nelson Muntz doing a 'Ha ha!' seems appropriate.
Re: Something doesn't add up here...
Really? You are supporting courts having the rights to dictate that married individuals must keep secrets from their spouses? From their direct family?
This case revolved around an OUT OF COURT settlement.
The court in this case wasn't dictating anything - it was enforcing a term of a contract which had been agreed by BOTH PARTIES.
Re: @Ross K When Big Brother Is After You
Read it. Bootleg records transported across the country, not stolen goods.
The argument was that bootleg = stolen but the Supreme Court said no.
Re: When Big Brother Is After You
I thought the moral objection to a...
I thought all you pro-MPAA/RIAA turds had been flushed down your respective toilets.
Despite you and the industry propaganda suggesting otherwise, copyright infringement is not theft - try reading Dowling v. United States (1985) sometime.
Stop perpetuating bullshit. Thanks.
Re: Funny How Times Change Innit
In other words, he was arguing that the courts have no role in determining whether "security grounds" are valid or invalid and that it's a decision entirely for the executive. He would have been all in favour of this decision, especially given his apparent belief that Home Secretaries can do no wrong.
Anyway those were the days before ECHR and the Human Rights Act.
Re: That's not actually possible...
Even if such a thing existed, do you really think our current fascist overlords would countenance such a thing as advertising it on official literature?
The great thing about an unwritten constitution is that you can make it up as you go along...
Re: That's not actually possible...
Better go update wikipedia then.
Well if wikipedia says it, it must be true.
Show me a .gov.uk site with the full text of the "British Constitution" that you claim exists, or you have FAILED.
You do have rights, which come from a lot of different places - case law statute, the EU. But you don't have a single document - a constitution - a bill of rights - which lists all of your individual rights from start to finish.
Re: Funny How Times Change Innit
This would be the same Lord Denning who refused to hear allegations of police brutality in court as they would undermine faith in the justice system if proven correct. And the same one who didn't want ethnic minorities to serve on juries.
Blacks. He felt blacks shouldn't serve on juries.
He didn't have much time for the Irish either; he thought the Birmingham Six and Guildford Four should have hanged.
The bloke was born in 1899 after all. The comments he made in the 1970s and 1980s about blacks or Irish would have been representative of the views of a large section of society at the time. Using some simple maths I can hazard a guess that he was in his 70s or 80s at the time these views of his were aired. Old people aren't renowned for their enlightened views, now or then. You should hear what my grandad thinks of muslims or asians - I hope he never meets a muslim asian or his head will explode.
In any event, that's not what the article is about. It's about anti-terror laws being misused, and my comment about his comment stands...
The UK doesn't have a constitution, so a citizen doesn't have any constitutional rights.
Funny How Times Change Innit
In 1977, a journalist called Mark Hosenball got himself in a spot of trouble for revealing the existence of GCHQ. At his deportation hearing Lord Denning said " In some parts of the world national security has on occasions been used as an excuse for all sorts of infringements of individual liberty. But not in England." Just as well he's not alive to see how things turned out...
Re: Is he a slumming producer from FAUX "news"?
These are basically sociopathic human scum who could NEVER have enough money and whose only interest in peasants, bums, and assorted poor people is whether any more blood can be squeezed from the turnips.
Those words accurately describe Thomas Watson, IBM and their behaviour in the run up to WWII.
You should read IBM and the Holocaust sometime.
As for present-day layoffs in India? What goes around comes around. Where next for 1st line support I wonder?
That is all.
Really? We bought some ProLiant servers that are approaching the end of their warranty, however when we bought them we weren't aware that we had to pay for access to BIOS updates after the warranty runs out. This is a major cost that has now been placed upon us, and probably does have some legal implications as well.
Today must be wannabe internet lawyer day...
It's shocking news that second hand goods may require further expenditure/upkeep after purchase.
I guess that means I can sue the garage I bought my last second hand car from - seeing as I had to spend money servicing it and remedying "defects" like worn tyres or timing belts nearing the end of their service life.
Sign me up to your newsletter please.
Obviously that first 12 months as std, is built into the cost. The irony, I can imagine some customers reducing this too if it were optional, haha.
Truest thing anybody's written in this thread... Have an upvote.
People want the world, but don't want to pay for it.
Re: Double-U Tee Eff?
Bad QA? That's a retarded statement to make.
Firmware updates, BIOS updates and security patches are all quite normal and not indicative in the slightest of quality problems. I'd be more worried about any company who thought their product was infallible, and never needed updating...
Which is fine until you actually use it for commercial work (using Mac OS X) and open yourself up for some major legal action.
Ok, I'll bite. What kind of major legal action are you opening yourself up to, and why?
If demand increases and supply remains the same, those willing to buy will pay a higher price... This can be seen on eBay at the moment where Mac Pros are selling at $2k over retail.
FFS, the way people are going on you'd think Apple never did anything like this before.
"My card (with EMV chip) got skimmed while in the UK. Ton of fraudulent txns. Wouldn't have happened if merchant accepted PayPal,"
Maybe the merchant doesn't like paying 3.4%+20p on each transaction, or having his Paypal account frozen for some arbitrary reason?
Somebody running a criminal enterprise, ordering contraband or putting the frighteners on a witness can accomplish his goal just as easily by having a word with a "colleague" at visiting time.
Mobile phones aren't needed.
A couple of reasons why prisoners use mobiles:
Speaking with family members, as they know that calls made from a prison pin phone are monitored by staff and/or police. Rightly or wrongly, they don't want their family business overheard and archived for later use.
Prison being prison, everyone is supposed to have x amount of time on the pin phone. If you're unable to assert yourself you might find that you don't get to use the phone.
Re: 1984 Was Not Supposed To Be An Instruction Manual
Yes, life must be great for those farmer's market traders. It's a lot easier to break even when you can set up in a different pace every day and not have to pay rent, rates,etc.
Anyway, i haven't agreed with anything you've wrote so far - dunno where you got that idea. Keep throwing stuff out there though, something might stick...
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