* Posts by DougS

3514 posts • joined 12 Feb 2011

Win some, lose some: Motorola 1, patent troll 1

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Prior art is not limited to patents

It doesn't matter whether something was patented or not, it qualifies as prior art either way. Might be harder to dig up in your defense if it only exists in some shareware that was long forgotten.

There are plenty of problems with the US patent system, but the test for prior art is not one of them.

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Force your hand: Apple 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display

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Re: "most Android users are replacing at every contract renewal"

So can iPhone users, because their phones have damn good resale value, while the Android phones that cost less than the iPhone are essentially worthless in the resale market a year later.

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Samsung forgets fingerprints, focuses its eye on YOURS

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@Calleb III

Unless the iris unlock requires your eye to be extremely close to your phone (making it very inconvenient) or has a totally separate sensor that is much higher resolution than your phone's camera, yes, you can get a selfie with high enough resolution.

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1000x more secure my ass

Its a simple 2D image, so it should be no more difficult to fool than a fingerprint scanner. In fact the fingerprint scanner has the option (not implemented in all of them obviously, but they could) of checking temperature and pulse to detect fakery. I'm sure if you put a suitable high res image of your iris in front of the camera it'll unlock for you, because there's no way it can tell the difference between that and your actual iris so long as you print it on something with the right amount of reflectivity.

Not hard to get that suitable image either, all you have to do is get the victim to take a selfie with you :)

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Wannabe a nano-bot-manufacturing giant? Better cozy up to Apple

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Re: So then Apple is a Monopolist?

No, not unless that supplier has a monopoly in their relevant market.

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Apple is picking off iOS antivirus apps one by one: Who'll be spared?

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Re: Pointless apps?

If a method is found to bypass the iOS sandbox, Apple will fix it. It can't be relied on as a way to run AV software, because as I said by definition such software is exploiting a security hole and is therefore the very malware it claims to protect you from.

So there are two possibilities for every AV app on iOS:

1) it doesn't work

2) it is malware

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Re: Pointless apps?

Exactly, this is what the critics are missing. The ones currently available are pure snake oil and can't possibly detect any real viruses or malware on iOS because they don't have the access outside of their sandbox that would be required.

In order to function as advertised, they'd have to be able to exit their sandbox to dig around the whole iOS memory space. If they were able to do that, they'd be the malware they are tasked with detecting!

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Becoming Steve Jobs biography: ‘Much of it was chutzpah and self delusion’

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Gates was philantropic, not Microsoft

Jobs closing down Apple's giving in 1997 when the company's future was hanging by a thread is not surprising. Maybe he should have reinstated it, but I think corporations shouldn't be engaged in philanthropy outside their own business anyway. Let the shareholders choose on their own who they want to give to! You can berate Jobs for not doing that with his money, but it is easy to understand why you might be less concerned with fighting disease around the world when you are fighting a personal battle with it.

The money didn't evaporate when he died, unless his widow is blowing it on useless stuff like donating to political parties or buying megayachts, the money will have to end up with a charity at some point since they didn't want to leave it to their kids.

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WinPhone? PAH! If you want Microsoft's mobe apps, grab an Android

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Re: Here's an original thought for Samsung

Because just like bloatware installed on PCs, the OEM is getting compensated in some way. When you're in a commodity market like the PC market is and the Android market is rapidly becoming, the margins are cutthroat so you do stuff like this to lower the price. If you don't like it, choose the models that install only base Android like Nexus, or root it and install your own (the equivalent of wiping the Dell laptop you bought and installing Windows 7 on it yourself)

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ARM plans to win 20 per cent of the server market by the year 2020

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Re: The problem is still the lack of a decent common hardware plattform

ARM servers aren't targeted at Windows, they're targeted at hyperscale stuff where lots of MIPS are important, and Linux absolutely dominates there with Windows having presence only in 100% Microsoft shops.

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Apple boots Windows 7 out of Boot Camp

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Re: Anti-trust

You think newer Macs not supporting Windows 7 via Boot Camp, while they still work fine via VM, is the result of an evil and illegal collusion between Apple and Microsoft? I think you need to come out of your basement and get some sun.

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Summer bust-up expected with new Apple TV and Roku coming onstream

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Re: Net neutrality

HBO is actually PRO net neutrality. They don't want cable companies preventing streaming to force their customers to buy the channel.

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Re: Comcast and all that ****

Do you expect them to make up news? If there's nothing to report, there's nothing to report. Apple opening a door in the very uncompetitive US cable market is a very big deal. That's news on the order of the sweeping changes in the US cellular market Apple caused with the original iPhone deal with AT&T, where for the first time a carrier did not control the software on a phone. Tivo actually made the first step a couple years ago but unfortunately the cable companies have been allowed quite a bit of control over Tivo's software to protect their markets. Apple isn't going to allow that, so this will push the door Tivo cracked open the rest of the way.

Apple always starts in the US, but they'll go elsewhere. And not just Apple, if they're successful with this the stodgy set top market might get the shakeup it has needed for the past two decades with a lot of new blood belatedly entering.

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AllVid

Comcast is a big supporter of AllVid (software only replacement for cablecard) and have been reportedly working with Tivo on making an AllVid enabled Tivo. If Apple beats them to the punch as the first one with AllVid hardware that would be pretty significant, given that Apple is a newcomer and Tivo has been in the game for 20 years.

I haven't heard anything regarding AllVid from the other cable companies, but I'm sure the other guys would be watching this with interest to see how it goes. When the FCC proposed AllVid, the cable companies were united in their opposition to it, but Comcast did an about face a year or two ago. They might now see themselves as an ISP that also offers video, rather than a video provider that also offers internet. The faster they can drop traditional 6 MHz QAM channels and deliver IPTV to customers via DOCSIS 3.1 multicast, the faster they can get out of the labor intensive "installers visit a customer's home to set up their cable boxes" business.

In the long term the TV sets would have AllVid built in, so you wouldn't need set tops, but it will take a decade before a majority of TVs were replaced after they start offering them with AllVid.

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Re: Net neutrality

To whom are you referring, Comcast? If they've got an agreement with Apple, that doesn't mean the deal is an exclusive. It has been reported that Comcast has been working with Tivo as well.

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Guardian: 'Oil reserves will soon be worth NOTHING!' (A bit like their stock tips, really)

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Re: The oil tide is ebbing

Big energy like BP or Exxon are too big to fail, but there are many many small and medium sized producers that governments will not lift a finger to bailout. You know, the ones doing most of the fracking.

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Re: The oil tide is ebbing

They can't pump 10x as much oil, or even close to it, so the ones that can't meet their debt obligations will go under. Their assets will be purchased at a steep discount, and the new owners will have no trouble making money on $40/bbl oil, and shut in the fields that cost more than the current price to produce.

There's a limit to how cheap oil can become due to the cost of transport if nothing else. You seem to be assuming the price can drop without limit because those who need money can pump it without limit, they won't lose more money pumping more oil no matter how much it becomes, and transport is free.

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3,500 servers go down – so my FIRST AID training kicks in

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Re: Late shift running off?...

The senior guy is the one you'd think needs to stay, especially since it sounds like all the juniors stayed. Things like this are "all hands on deck". I hope when he cowardly ran off like that he was given the cowardly treatment he deserved and was fired by text message!

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Google and Obama: You’re too close for comfort

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Another Google apologist

Apple users don't fully control and therefore arguably don't own their iPhones, but they enjoy way better privacy than any Google user. By suggesting otherwise you're just sticking your head in the sand and trying to excuse Google's evil on the "but everyone else is doing it!" theory.

Point to where Apple is selling personal information. You can't, because they don't. Google spends a ton of money developing Search, Maps, Gmail, Android and everything else. Their income comes solely from targeting advertising - they make their money trading on the privacy of those who use their services.

Apple doesn't have to sell you out, they make bank when they sell you an "overpriced" iPhone. I put "overpriced" in quotes, because whether you feel you are paying too much depends on what price you put on your privacy. If you buy a Nexus for half the price of an iPhone and think you saved money, I guess you feel your privacy isn't worth much.

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Cops cuff Colorado girl for allegedly poisoning mum after iPhone ban

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Re: The girl is ill. She's addicted to tech

Oh please, that's just a slippery slope of letting people off the hook for their behavior because 'addiction'. If that girl in the Negev was throwing a tantrum because she didn't have access to electricity so her iPod would run out of juice, does that mean she's addicted to music? If she threw a fit because she was going to miss the final episode of The Bachelor, does that mean she's addicted to TV?

The article I'm sure you read about a study showing similar brain chemistry in drug addicts and "tech addicts" was worthless, because you can see that same response for almost anything! Such studies give bottom of the barrel scientists a way to secure a grant when they're unable to come up with any original research. They know the outcome will be "newsworthy" and eaten up by clueless dolts who don't understand the stimulus/response triggers in the brain are designed to work that way. We evolved to be "addicted" to things we enjoy. It is a survival trait for sex and rich foods, it is a side effect it also works for everything else from alcohol to starting fires to binge watching on Netflix.

That girl in the Negev acted the way she did because her parents aren't worthy of the title, not because of "tech addiction". The girl in the article who tried to kill her mom with bleach is mentally ill, plain and simple. Tech addiction has nothing to do with it. Her mental illness would eventually manifest itself even if she lived in an Amish community with no tech.

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Tax fraud fugitive nabbed after posting selfies

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Re: To the IRS... Here's a free clue!

I know about the e-file PIN, but as you say the problem is that it isn't persistent. It isn't foolproof, since your accountant could be hacked, but the main source of the data used for this scam is getting a list of names and SSNs. Sadly that's all you need to file under someone else's name.

I don't know the details of how the scam works exactly, but I would think if they filed under my name they wouldn't know how much income and withholding was on my W2. I guess the crooks are relying on the IRS helpfully 'correcting' a flawed return that doesn't include accurate info, but they need to start setting those aside for extra checking for fraud - or just plain kick them back and make the person refile.

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Re: To the IRS... Here's a free clue!

The IRS should let people optionally add a PIN to their records that must be included on any return that is submitted to prevent this. So long as they make setting the PIN on your record secure, maybe you have to go to the post office in the same ZIP code as your tax home and show your ID and submit the info to them or something.

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AUTOPILOT: Musk promises Tesla owners a HANDS-OFF hands-on

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Re: They'll get burned by these updates eventually

Obviously they're going to have to adopt a different standard for programming the autonomous part of the code than they do for mundane stuff like handling the charging, climate control, audio, etc. That's why I'm none too optimistic for Google's efforts in that area, as their whole corporate mentality is the "release early, release often" philosophy which is not compatible with life critical systems. I'd much rather have a car running autonomous driving code written by Boeing or General Dynamics, they have decades of experience writing life critical code.

FWIW, I wasn't even talking about ransomware or whatever in my post that started this thread. The problems I alluded to in cellphones had nothing to do with such malware, just that somehow you get situations where Microsoft releases an update on known hardware and bricks some phones, Apple releases an update on known hardware and causes the cellular radio to stop working, Google bricked some Nexus phones also with known hardware. The known hardware is "identical" but there is (apparently) enough variation in hardware states (device registers, etc.) that internal testing did not catch these serious issues until after public release.

Why should we assume Tesla is immune? If you brick your Tesla in a state where it won't run and won't accept further updates, it'll have to be towed to the nearest service center. That might be quite a ways depending where you live! I'm actually less worried about Audi and BMW, as while they are into the whole "connected car" thing the updates being delivered to them only affect the entertainment/climate cluster. The ECU programming is only updated when the car is in at the service center, so if it is bricked at least it is already where it needs to be to get unbricked :) Tesla's updates affect all the systems in the car, yikes!

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They'll get burned by these updates eventually

Look at Microsoft, Apple, Google, Samsung updating phones. They've all had experiences where an update that tested OK caused major problems or even bricked some phones when upon release.

If you ever wake up one morning and the car refuses to turn left across a double yellow line because it is stuck in lanekeeping mode, we'll be able to add Tesla to the club :)

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Apple: Those security holes we fixed last week? You're going to need to repatch

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Damned if you do

If they take time to put out patches until they're sure they take care of all possible iterations of a flaw, "Apple is too slow putting out patches". If they get them out quickly but something slips through the cracks, "Apple is making users patch twice".

I'd rather have them quickly and risk needing a second round of patching, as at least it reduces the attack surface in the first go-round.. Those who don't want to be bothered patching twice could always wait a few weeks before installing them...

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Noobs can pwn world's most popular BIOSes in two minutes

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Re: Didn't PCs used to require switching a jumper to flash the BIOS?

Why would physical access be required to flash the BIOS? Any PC that supports flashing the BIOS with a Windows app (i.e., probably all of them made for the last decade at least) can be flashed with malware that can be made to run on that PC. That malware can be delivered via an email from China, no physical access required.

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Didn't PCs used to require switching a jumper to flash the BIOS?

Whatever happened to that? Too user unfriendly? Maybe we need to go back to those days, it isn't like a new BIOS comes out the second Tuesday of every month.

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Re: Maybe the operating system shouldn't use the BIOS.

They have to if they want to support ACPI low power states. The OS has to have full knowledge of the hardware to avoid that - i.e. this is an option for Apple alone.

Even ignoring that, if the OS didn't use the BIOS at all if the OS can be made to alter the BIOS then it is game over next time you boot.

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PIRATES and THIEVES to get Windows 10 as BOOTY

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Re: Upgrade process?

What's the "lifetime of the device" when you're running Windows in a VM? Sounds like anyone who wants it can legally run Windows 10 until Microsoft ends support for it, by pirating Windows 7 in a VM and making it legal by upgrading it.

I think they figured out the second biggest reason why Windows 8 is growing share more slowly than Windows 7 despite being sold in new PCs is because Windows 7 can be pirated as easily as XP, while they locked things down a lot more with Windows 8. If they lock Windows 10 down well enough that the only way you can run it is to pay for it, Windows 7 will become the new XP that lives forever.

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Analyst dons Tim Cook mask, thinks: Glass went well for Google. Let's do that, too

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I'm sure Apple investigates a lot of stuff

Maybe rumors make it outside of Apple. Sometimes I think analysts are just bored and bet each other over drinks whether they can make up a rumor that gets picked up by the press. $1K if it gets picked up by The Register, $5K if it gets picked up by CNet, $10K if it makes the front page of finance,yahoo.com $100K if it makes the WSJ!

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Zombie SCO shuffles back into court seeking IBM Linux cash

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Liquidated means undead

I haven't been following the debacle, but if it has been liquidated, i.e. sold off, someone bought the rights some part of the corpse for a pittance and feel it is worth the gamble trying to sue. Could be a company with an excess of legal resources - or a corporation created by an IP legal firm with not enough work.

Or it could be someone with a grudge against IBM, since as an outside observer suing IBM again over this is like a typical basement dwelling geek picking a fight with Ronda Rousey.

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A day may come when flash memory is USELESS. But today is not that day

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Re: why no mention of Everspin?

They have working MRAM, but it is in megabit densities per chip. They are 'working on' gigabit densities per chip, but with other technologies moving to terabit densities per chip (already there if you count stacking) it isn't really competing in the general purpose storage market with flash and the other contenders mentioned.

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My self-driving cars may lead to human driver ban, says Tesla's Musk

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No fault insurance

There are already some US states that have no fault auto insurance, I expect this will become universal when people are no longer driving. Fault is unimportant to an individual, they just want their losses to be covered.

Fault, and what remedies are required should be a question for regulators. I see autocar accidents being investigated like airplane accidents. Figure out whether the fault was a mechanical failure, software failure, how much conditions or lax maintenance contributed, etc. and order fixes/recalls where necessary.

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$30 Landfill Android mobes are proof that capitalism ROCKS

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A selfish view

Those in richer western countries might not see the benefit - or even see a drop - in living standard as the "better communication" that results in the growth of less developed countries makes them competitive for jobs that westerners do.

I'm not suggesting this is a bad thing for the world, but it is easy to see why those on the losing end have a harder time seeing the benefit. The larger question is whether raising the living standard of the less developed countries will eventually benefit the first world. Or rather than a "rising tide lifts all boats" we see all boats reach the same level eventually, meaning the rest of the world (or at least that part of it not preoccupied with wars, famine and other larger concerns) has to reach the level of the west before the "bottom 80%" of the people in the west once again start seeing real increases in wealth.

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Boffins FOAMING over a Nickel's worth of hydrogen

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Consider the source

Someone who has staked his company's future on pure electric cars isn't going to want to see advancements that make fuel cell vehicles more attractive.

Nothing prevents mostly electric cars that have less battery (let's say 60-80 mile range) and a gas tank that allows a couple hundred mile range on a full tank. Assuming that could be done less expensively than an electric with a 300 mile range you have best of both worlds - ability to run as an electric for all day to day use and "recharging" in minutes without spending trillions to rebuild the world's infrastructure to fit your model or greatly limiting where such "recharging" can take place.

Musk can tilt at windmills all he wants, but no matter how good electrics they'll have to coexist with gasoline power for decades. The more of those gasoline cars are hybrids the better for the future of electrics, the more the gasoline power is done via fuel cells instead of combustion the better for the environment.

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Google adds evil-code scanning to Play Store

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Re: Apple's process isn't fully automated

The bad code is still greatly limited in what it can do because of the iOS permission model and sandbox, unless you find an exploit for that. If you do, Apple can remotely disable your app everywhere so your ability to attack is pretty limited.

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Apple's process isn't fully automated

Human review is required as well, that's why there's a delay between submission and approval for the App Store. The Play Store is automated so apps are approved more quickly but automated scanning can only go so far (malware authors are clever)

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Big Data shocker: Over 6 million Americans have reached the age of 112

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Re: Nope... guess again... Let me guess

That was the other angle of that story. Once you are declared dead in error, even once you convince the SSA that you are alive, so many other institutions rely on their list and have declared you dead in their records, you have problems forever. One woman got a letter from the SSA every month (so it was current) and kept it with her always, to avoid issues ranging from arrest for identity theft to credit issues and so forth that her premature death caused her in the past.

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Re: Let me guess

Actually, no. This was the subject of the most recent 60 Minutes, and the problem is the "Death Master File". SS relies on someone telling them a person has died, and is getting information from all sorts of sources, much of it still paper-based since no one invests much in improving this sort of process.

A lot of deaths aren't reported, so they stay on the SS system. If there are six million people over 112, I would not be surprised if a few are older than 150 :)

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Battle for control of Earth's unconnected souls moves to SPAAAACE

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Re: If it is in LEO

Iridium is very old technology, with very low data rates and the power and antenna requirements mean it could never be included in a modern smartphone. I'm hoping two decades of improvements mean Iridium 2.0 will be.

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If it is in LEO

Then it makes a great way to cover all the empty spots where cell coverage doesn't. Not just Africa, but all those places in the US that are uncovered and probably never will be covered. Even if it just did voice that would mean never being out of service. Well, less out of service, since buildings, tunnels and depending on the frequencies used and SNR a tree canopy might still block the signal.

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Motorola Mobility up before the beak over alleged IP infringment

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Google is still funding IV?

I thought some companies had stepped away from further funding, at least Apple and Intel passed last year and suggested they would no longer be funding them in the future and instead joining IBM and others in an organization pushing for patent reform to stop trolls like Intellectual Ventures.

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Pub O'clock probe finds thousands of repeated 512-bit RSA keys

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Re: time for software liabilty...

That's great, but it doesn't help the masses out there who have a device that suffers from this issue. You and I may buy a router based on the ability to run DD-WRT/OpenWRT on it, so we don't care whether it came with a vulnerable firmware - that may never be fixed since it is "too old" (in vendor speak "we're no longer shipping that model")

What are the regular folks supposed to do? There is zero chance they will be able to install a replacement firmware. Open source provides the tools, but you have to REALLY know what you're doing to figure out which version to install. It wouldn't be terribly hard for that process to be improved so people could be asked a series of questions to help determine the model/version of router they have, and download the proper version. Unfortunately only 0.01% of FOSS people seem to give a damn about improving that end of things.

Even if you know what the heck you're doing deciding which DD-WRT version is the least broken takes hours of research, or some dumb luck (seriously, WTF is up with the idiots running that asylum?) At least openwrt.org has a download link on the front page, though without some knowledge you'd never know exactly which build you need.

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Malcolm Turnbull proposes taxing Google and Facebook ads

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Now this is a consumer friendly tax

Since economics 101 says you get less of something if it is taxed, please tax the hell out of online ads! While you're at it, please tax ads on TV, radio, billboards and everywhere else!

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Improved Apple Watches won't get more expensive? Hmmm

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The fuck your discount is here

The iPhone cost $599 subsidized at release. A few months later Apple reduced the price to $399 subsidized. Later they dropped it to $199 subsidized, which is roughly where it remains today.

At least since the iPhone 3gs, the manufacturing cost has been roughly constant. Some things go up in cost, others go down, the total BOM is around $200 every year when the new model is released.

Just because you think "hey, you guys are making a lot of money, you should charge less" doesn't mean they will or should do. If you found a cache of gold coins buried in your backyard, you're going to sell them for $5 each since they only cost you a couple hours of digging, right? No? Of course not, you'll sell them at a price the market will bear. The melt value of gold if they're common and pretty beat up, a large premium to that price if they are rare and/or in pristine condition.

The iPhone costs what it costs because Apple believes that is the profit maximizing price. They could obviously sell it for less, but if they dropped $100 off the price they don't believe they'd sell enough more of them to make up for the $100 less on all the ones they would have sold anyway and thus their overall profit would be less. They also feel that if they charged $100 more they'd surely have plenty of takers, but they'd sell fewer to the point it would also lower their overall profit.

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Zuck: Get your FULLY EXPOSED BUTTOCKS off my Facebook

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Facebook operates under the "least offensive" principle

Anything that will offend a lot of people they will take the other course. Thus it makes perfect sense to censor nudity, as a lot of people (well, Americans) will get upset by it. They won't censor ads for guns, because a lot of people (well, Americans) will get upset by it. They used to censor breastfeeding pics, but a lot of moms got upset by that so now they don't, at least not if you complain. They added more and more choices for "sex" because a lot of people were upset by it, and eventually punted like they should from the start and allowed people to enter whatever the hell they want there to stop the complaining.

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Musk: 'Tesla's electric Model S cars will be less crap soon. I PROMISE'

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Easy to do

Tesla knows where the charging stations are, so the car can also know. Combined with the car's position, and the amount of battery left, it could display a screen that shows all the charging stations that are within a safe reach at the current battery level, and notify the driver if they are in danger of being 'stranded' (i.e. having less safe range than the distance to the nearest station)

If you have a destination programmed in, or based on the highway you're on or the general direction you're traveling it could alert you as you approach each charging station how far the next ones are and warn you if you're approaching the 'last chance' charging station.

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'Just a kid' Zuck's word is his bond ... but NOT in his backyard, lawsuit claims

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Zuck wants privacy in his own backyard

But doesn't extend that same courtesy to Facebook users. Can I root against both sides in this dispute?

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Timeout, Time Lords: ICANN says there is only one kind of doctor

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Re: Sadly the wrong answer.

Chiropractors don't have an M.D, they are "D.C." Limiting it to those who hold an M.D. should be pretty simple, the only hole for the charlatans to sneak past will be offshore diploma mills that will grant you an M.D. without courses that are worthy of the title (or even for payment of a fee and no coursework at all)

If the domain was limited to a single country you'd deal with that the same way you deal with someone practicing medicine without a license. But just because the US and UK may have high standards for an M.D., doesn't mean all countries in the world will, so guys like 30 Rock's Dr. Spaceman will be able to get spaceman.doctor I guess!

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Data centre dangers: Killing a tree and exploding a UPS

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Diesel locomotive backup generators

I consulted at a company once that had a big datacenter with a loading dock off the back door. Off that dock there was a short hallway with very thick steel doors on either end that led to huge concrete room that housed massive banks of forklift batteries powering their UPS, and two diesel locomotive engines serving as backup generators. The datacenter only needed one to run the DC + HVAC, but I was told it used to require both back in the mainframe/mini days.

One weekend they were doing some regularly scheduled maintenance/testing (which I was not involved with) on the UPS/generator setup. One of the locomotive engines threw a piston or some other important part, which impacted the other locomotive engine and caused it spray debris that impacted the ceiling, wall, electrical and HVAC equipment along with a number of the giant batteries. Fortunately no one was in the room at the time it happened or they almost certainly would not have survived.

It took them most of the weekend to clean things up and replace or bypass damaged electrical components to the point where they could re-power the datacenter, then start bringing servers back up. This last part was my only involvement, I didn't do 'on call' but they needed all hands to help to get things back up by Monday morning and I was happy to lend a hand and make some easy money.

Their only backup at that point was the (remaining) batteries which would only cover a very minor interruption. It took several weeks but they were able to find someone to rebuild the first locomotive engine that started the whole mess and get it operational again. The second was declared a total loss. Fortunately they did not have any power outages during the time they were without backup generation.

I wish I'd gotten a copy of the pictures from the guys who were involved, they were both scary and impressive.

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