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People don't think things through anymore :(
Which is my main gripe. Over here in Holland some idiot (personal opinion of course) though it to be fun to construct a sea-bomb (the WW2 thingie) from foam and dump it into a pond. Needless to say; it attracted quite the attention; from police, explosive experts and the lot.
Call me old fashioned if you will but those aren't jokes anymore. People who are planning a joke should try to think about the consequences. What maybe fun for you might be a nightmare for others.
And well; to me the jokes are getting lamer, more shallow and plain out dumb by the year. You don't have to overdo it in order to fool people in a fun way you know.
"OMG, Halleys comet is going to land RIGHT HERE" just doesn't do it these days...
In other news...
RIM now considers filing a lawsuit against El Reg due to spreading classified information which might scare off potential customers which they so desperately need these days. As such rumor has it that RIM and El Reg are reaching a settlement for several thousands of dollars.
Source of being obviously the same source as the article itself ;-)
The author ignores a key issue.
Namely that it is perfectly doable to use both IPv6 and IPv4 together. So if you have a local infrastructure then you simply set that up in a way you always have. Then when its time to setup the /external/ (outside) connections then yes, something is going to change.
But the described scenario where companies would have to change everything (routers, printers, etc.) is preposterous.
Thanks for the hints, couldn't have done it without you.
Please ignore the 2500 transfer to the Swiss alps, thanks :-)
The last airbender is out?
Now, I don't really keep up with movies but this bit has evaded me.
Yet when looking at the trailers I'm not too sure if this is something I want to pick up (even though I've been a huge fan of the anime series; got all 3 chapters).
I have to agree with you on one thing; there is no downside what so ever here. At the very least they gathered up some real life experience (which is /much/ more valuable than theory) which might be useful in other cases.
However, the main issue which I think many people are forgetting is the way politics operate. Some people (including the mayor) are responsible for the project. As such; do you really think we'd be told if the project wasn't going as prosper as anticipated? I doubt it; because that would also mean that the people responsible had to confess to have made an error in judgement, and that could "damage" their political careers.
Please keep in mind that I'm not claiming that this is also the case for project Limux, I simply don't know, yet all I'm saying is that people should definitely keep this in mind when dealing with politics.
Heck; our country (Holland) got involved with the JSF, we also ordered quite a lot of those darn things. And even now where -involved- US military personnel speak up against the whole project; calling it a failure and something which costs get way out of hand... Even now does our government consider the decision to go for the JSF a "big success" which has "many advantages". Costs which seem to rise by the tens of millions every few months or so? "Details which need to be worked out, yet have no effect on the success and our trust in the JSF".
/THAT/ is politics for you and that is something we should be mindful off. Even if it concerns topics which we really want to succeed.
Saving or cost reduction ?
He says that they are now saving 4 million euro's last year in licensing costs. Yet they remain silent when it comes to changes in overall costs such as support, training, etc. All they shared is that the "amount of support calls has decreased".
I'm a bit skeptical here. The whole project to implement the change was estimated on roughly E 35 million around 2004 for 14000 computers, and around 2008 another 13 million was estimated for the next 4 years. So in total they appear to estimate this on 50 million euro's.
Although other sources say that the initial estimate of 35 million hasn't been reached yet. And yet another source claims that the whole project has only cost 15 million euro's. What strikes me as odd is the seemingly secrecy when it comes to the costs of the project. Hardly anywhere do you get solid facts as to the real costs.
But... How does saving 4 million in one year, solely on licensing costs, weigh up against having to spend 35 million in order to make that reduction possible? It seems to me that the actual saving will only occur if they keep this up for the next 9 years or so.
Or, if we take the 15 / 16 million into account then the actual saving starts at 4 years.
As such I think its a little too early to conclude that the project is a success. Lets wait for another 2 - 4 years and then look at the IT costs in general. Support costs, maintenance costs, training costs... I can't help wonder if the figures at that time will shed a whole different light on the project.
Wise words indeed, however there is one thing I'd like to get into if you don't mind...
"Religion doesn't cause wars, people use religious ideas to further their political ideas."
While this is true there is also no denying that in the end it was the religion itself which provided these people with the tool (the religion itself) to expand on these ideals. Often without question, which I think is the main problem with religion in general; commonly speaking people will never question religion.
If you take a look at the religion I'm familiar with (the Christian belief) then you'll notice that whatever the bible says is picked up as /the/ truth to base your life on. Whether this is for good or bad isn't my point right now; the issue here is that people will hardly ever question that which is written in the bible because it is an important factor of which they base their believes. It even goes as far as contradiction; there are many stories which contradict each other, yet that is also no problem.
I think that's a major flaw with religion in general. Humanity didn't evolve by merely accepting everything around us "as is" but by /questioning/; we're a curious species who like to know what is up around us, how things work, what makes things tick, and so on. It is that process which has brought us in this (IMO) wonderful era of a rather advanced technical level.
And it is also that flaw which has given people within a certain religion enough power to do what they wanted without being questioned. When the Pope demanded that we went on our holy wars to "take back" the "sacred lands" back from the "heathens", did anyone question him? I think some did, but didn't live long to tell the tale. Yet no one would ever question the faith or ideals of the Pope; if there was one man above doubt or suspicion it was surely him.
What about Luther? All he ever wanted was translate the Bible so that the common people would also be able to grasp the words inside. We all know what happened to him...
As such I think its too easy to simply blame this on "people" because without the religion and its flaws these people would probably never have been able to carry out their agendas.
Growing within a 'religious hierarchy' also comes with power. As such I think its also the responsibility of said religion and the ones within that hierarchy to ensure that such power cannot be usurped. Yet /that/ is something you'll never or hardly see happening. And I think /that/ is why many people (myself included) often blame religion as a whole and in general.
Example; When was the last time where the Pope questioned the ill practices of the "TV preachers" in the States? Where it has been proven that people (ab)use religion in order to generate some huge income for themselves.
No, you'll probably get an XBox live achievement for doing it correctly.
Which won't work straight away of course because it's a /special/ achievement and you first need to get yourself an XBox live gold subscription in order to activate it :-)
Re: A Damning Statement About the Windows Ecosystem
A box is as secure as its owner keeps it. Doesn't matter if its Windows or Linux or Apple.
And if you'll recall MS /has/ done more to increase security. Although I disliked the OS with a passion there's no denying that they raised the bar quite high in Vista. However, /that/ resulted in people getting pissed off by all the UAC pop up messages ("Do you want to...").
Worse yet; some people simply disabled the whole thing to make things easier on them again.
I do hope that they thought things through
I mean, it is pretty cool, absolutely. But a possible downside to all this is that you're also signing away your rights to any sense of privacy you might wish for. No; not now. But I do hope that they'll feel the same in, say, 3 - 6 years or so.
After all; as this article has clearly demonstrated; whatever has transpired between them has become public domain. And sometimes that can work against you in the longer run.
BUT, most of all: congratulations to the couple! (seems I'm the first in the thread to think think about congratulating the couple?).
I'm one of the upvoters because well, I tend to agree with you. Like you said; this isn't an issue of hating or liking or... Although I do have some doubts about your estimates on the tablet and phone markets. I think we may very well see an increase in people moving /away/ from Windows on those markets (isn't the tablet already used in such fashion?).
However, being a (small) business user myself I'd like to add another possible reason as to why some people / companies wouldn't easily bail the MS ship; Investments, both made and possibly required when migrating. Even if Android would somehow manage to embrace an office suite like Libre Office (which I hold in high esteem mind you) then it still remains to be seen if it will be enough.
Because in general many companies have invested heavily (software, time, manpower, studies, etc.) in setting up an environment which suits their need. In the example of Office we have VBA which can go /really/ deep. Which automatically is the main problem; I don't think it will be possible to come up with an alternative solution which can both fully support the current infrastructure /and/ provide enough features to compete. Not in the time frame's we're talking here.
I'm not saying people aren't up to it or that it is totally impossible. But I don't see it happening. Take a look at the (IMO very impressive!) developments in environments such as OpenJDK / Kaffe or the Mono project. These exist for quite some time, and they've come a long way. But can we truly say that such an environment managed to reach a level where it could fully replace the original one on one ?
Not too sure there... The reason why I use programming environment projects as example is simple; if there are any motivated people to be found its there (IMO).
And that's "only" a programming environment.
SO... I have to agree with you that some things probably won't change as quickly as some people think.
While I can see, follow and here and there even agree with your logic there is one thing amiss IMO. And that is the assumption that Windows has never managed to grow or catch on. Now, this is a little bit of a bad example (IMO) with Windows 8 on the horizon (which, IMO again, totally proves some parts of your comments plain and simple) but when looking at Windows 7 and some of their mobile devices (Windows Phone 7.5) then I can only conclude that Microsoft has already come a long way in achieving what you're describing here.
Example: I sit behind my desktop PC and write a text document in Word (2010). I add some pictures, add some other stuff, etc. I then save this to my freely available "cloud storage" (Skydrive). This results in the document becoming immediately accessible on my Windows Phone. I can view it, edit it, and upload any possible changes again.
Even more; if I start my laptop (running on XP) I can have the same document also directly available; straight from Skydrive (note: in all fairness, this /did/ require some tweaks on my part because as we all know MS doesn't really support XP anymore. You can't easily access a document directly from Skydrive with Office 2010 alone, but can after a little tweaking).
Of course the question remains if this isn't all a little too late. I have to agree with you that many people will happily embrace an environment as long as it isn't Windows.
But who gets the most out of this ?
Now, before this comment is picked up as being solely cynical or negative... No, I applaud this development because IMO this is a step in the right direction. After all; at the very least do we get a little more insight in the software which Microsoft has provided us with in the last few years which I think is good.
Another reason why I consider this a good development is because its a somewhat logical step. I mean; their development environments (talking about their Visual Studio 2010 for Web development here) have been available in a free ('Express') form for quite some time now. So if you want to get your hands on the ASP Web API you could. Simple. As such its IMO only logical to open things up a little more. And who knows what might follow ?
However, I do have to wonder if MS doesn't get the better end of the deal here (of course they do this for a reason of their own as well, sure).
You can pick up the source code to the Web API (which is basically a framework) but then what? While you can pick up an ASP 'container' (IIS) for free as well, it doesn't give you the amount of freedom you'd have if you could also get access to the source code of the underlying engine. So then I start to wonder how others may benefit from this, also considering that this is basically a framework build on top of ASP.NET which remains closed.
I know about stuff such as mod_mono or Apache::ASP but even then I have some doubts if this API will / could be beneficial there. Because that is IMO one of the boons of open source; the ability to pick something up and utilize it in totally different ways. Yet I don't think that will really apply here (though I could be wrong of course).
So; not to sound ungrateful or anything. IMO this is an admirable step in the right direction, I think we can all benefit in the end with a more transparent Microsoft, but in this case I do have some doubts.
You don't need new laws
All you need are people with enough sanity to tell these employers to take a hike, problem solved.
Jobs are booming?
Now, pardon my possible ignorance but if jobs regarding those engines are booming then I'd say you can draw several conclusions. Either these environments are (becoming) popular so more companies want to use them /or/ several companies have already jumped on the bandwagon yet it turned out that the engine required more maintenance than anticipated as such more people need to be hired.
So the way I see it this could go either way.
Wonder about the usefullness..
As others mentioned; Mozilla (based) browsers have plenty of less intrusive solutions such as AdBlock, NoScript but another option could be to use 2 profiles. You know; in one profile you setup everything basically in a default or slightly strict setting. In your 2nd profile you block the whole kaboodle (no or restricted cookies, partial images, no pop-ups, etc.). This would allow you to use the browser in a 'regular' mode and a 'secured' mode.
Heck; even MSIE has known something like this for quite a while now; the so called "InPrivate" mode; just press control-shift-p while in the browser. This could be a little more versatile because in this mode cookies will be accepted and treated like normal; but they are only kept in memory. As soon as you close the browser then all of the cookies are gone too.
Now; I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't know about these options because all they do is merely "use the browser". So for them this could be a useful option I guess. But even then; if you worry about privacy yet don't worry enough to get to know your tools a little better I honestly wonder if merely "securing" the browser will help.
Its a start, sure, but how do people like that treat e-mail for example? "We need to send this to 5 customers so I'll sent it to 1 and can simply CC the rest". There goes your privacy again.
I suggest looking up the - current - definition of terrorism in the US. Some of it is a bit too far fetched to my liking, but others make pretty good sense to me.
In this case; what if they got their filthy hands on private data from soldiers who are operating overseas? Worse; soldiers who maybe even working in covert operations? And before anyone goes: "Lame, covert and mentioned on a public dating site?" I have to disagree; if this is a dating site strictly for military personal then there is a sense of privacy. Regular civilians won't be able to access this information "just like that".
So if they put all that data online then it may easily have unforeseen consequences.
So IMO this will easily fall under the terms of (cyber) terrorism.
As to the question of him posting... considering that he won't be playing Angry Birds he has to fill up his time /somehow/ :-)
This isn't about MS but a moronic shopkeeper
I own a Windows Phone myself since a couple of days (Samsung Omnia W which replaces my Samsung Jet) and because of that I've been following the news around the Windows Phone very critically during the past months. When it comes to stuff like this I don't decide on impulse but on thorough research. Especially since I plan to use this phone for the next 4 - 6 years (my next subscription period is going to be "SIM only" which will save me quite some cash).
Alas; I've came across these (IMO silly) commercials too and I noticed that MS is also happily admitting defeat. Better yet: they are not afraid to publish this on the official Winphone page as well. See here:
Last video, around 2:10, the guy on the left "smoked" the Windows phone. And there are more examples in those videos where someone else actually won. Can't point 'm all out because I never watched all the movies (I don't think its /that/ funny). But honestly; MS also admits defeat and aren't afraid to show it in public either.
So this isn't about MS IMO, but a moronic shop keeper who probably feared losing customers or something. Dumb move.
Journey has one problem working against it which is replay value. On that account it scores even less than its predecessor Fl0wer because once you're done (got all the items in all levels and all trophies) then you're done. No matter how you play it you'll always end up doing the exact same things in the exact same order. Even certain icky situations cannot be avoided and will keep on happening.
It looks awesome, that's for sure, and the experience is also stunning. But if I had to pay 4 times the price for it then I'd demand my money back because then I consider myself being ripped off.
How do you know your post amount anyway ?
When I click on someone else's profile I get to see how much responses he wrote. But if you look at your own "My posts" page you get to see how much you've been up & down voted. I have no idea how much comments I wrote, more than 10 that's for sure :-)
Oh the irony.. One of my firsts posts (quite a few years back) was to complain about the new layout and stating that I probably wouldn't involve myself with all this :-)
Anyway, it would be nice if we were to know - up front - if we could actually perform certain tasks.
Re: Yet ... we keep getting told how great its app store is
Well, as an end user I have to say that the app store ("Marketplace") is a lot better than I expected. I mean there's plenty of stuff available, it certainly meets the quantity part.
The only issue is that you can never be sure how good an app is. And what troubles me a little is that I'm a little hesitant to install & remove apps because IMO you can never be sure that they perform a clean deinstallation.
Or this was a deliberate plot to check how much attention / protests / comments such a rumor would attract.
If it wouldn't even be mention worthy you simply drop the whole thing and no one will be the wiser (or, as you suggested, you may even be compensated). If you do manage to stir up some protests you will know up front that you can expect at least /some/ sales.
Careful now with hasty assumptions.
For all we know they might also consider to offer those companies a deal they can't refuse.
Re: Meet the bad guy - Two Face
Well, I tend to agree with you but on the other hand; a lot of businesses also have an identify on social media. So its not as if the combination is a total logic flaw.
Actually that's not quite correct. WP7 development relies on .NET, as such their free Visual Studio version provides support for both C# and Visual Basic. Obviously C# tends to be the more popular of the two.
Well, problem is that we don't know all the facts yet IMO.
I do agree with you though; it seems as if Apple stores make no fuss what so ever about replacing the device. But I think its also too early to conclude that the problems aren't as huge as some people claim.
After all; we should never forget that not every story about issues will hit the Net. A lot of people use tablets for their own needs (e-mail, surfing, video's, etc.) because its easy, it suits them and its all not too technical. Do you really think such people would look up technical fora ?
Then there's the number of people who may have merely noticed something going wrong and then went back to the store to either replace or refund the device and (hopefully) that was the end of it. I don't think you'll hear much from those people either (esp. not if they fall within the range of people I mentioned above).
Not everyone will make themselves heard on the Net.
IMO we wouldn't have heard about this at all if it actually were a non-issue which was taken out of proportions.
Finally.. Yes, there is always a margin for errors. But a lot of cases which have the /exact/ same failure? That doesn't compute. Sure; some devices will b0rk, others may act weird, that stuff happens, totally agreed. But IMO it gets different when such devices all share a same problem.
As a business user I think this is wonderful news; they're really raising their standard a /lot/ (keep in mind: I never followed Libreoffice before the OpenOffice fall).
I do hope that they'll also manage to embed access to such cloud services into the office applications themselves; best of both worlds! For example; say people can share templates and such in the cloud; it will be very easy for users if they can access (search & open) those templates straight from within the office application itself.
And that's obviously not mentioning support to store documents onto an online storage medium as well.
The advantage you have when this is embedded in an application (IMO anyway) is that you get the best from both worlds as user. If required you can easily access, edit and re-publish online documents. Or work entirely online (from the "cloud"). BUT... Should your internet connection suddenly fail you can still continue working on stuff residing on your own computer; iow you're not depending on an always available Internet connection.
Alas.. I think this is good news and I hope they keep it up!
Sure; I'm already deeply involved with the 'competition' and simply can't afford to "just" move away (the time that takes alone would be a major investment for me). But that doesn't mean that I don't enthusiastically follow these developments. I'm definitely going to be checking out the upcoming releases again (no, not to check which one is "better", to check how well it works and what has changed, and how and if it could suit some of my customers / friends). IMO people should try that more often; keeping an open mind on these things.
Targeting filthy-minded people, surely there's nothing new there ?
This is stupid
I don't care if its Apple or Microsoft (which mobile device I happen to use & enjoy) or others such as Nokia, Motorola and/or Google... Trusting such a company to keep your money is dumb and utterly stupid.
Because at first these are IT companies, whereas banks usually need to meet totally different requirements. For example; under Dutch law our banks are - required - to join a mutual funds which ensures that the bank customers won't lose their money should the bank for whatever reason suddenly go bankrupt.
DO you really think IT companies would even bother to setup such safety nets? Worse; that governments can actually enforce them to setup something similar if they do insist on starting "bank like" services ? I have some very serious doubts there.
Either take your money to a bank or keep it in an old sock. Either way you'll be better off than trusting an (IT / non-financial) company to hold your money.
Nah, they'll also be accepted in other stores. IF you paid your usage license fee to Apple which allows you to use their protected-by-license currency.
Phineas & Ferb
We all know what this is about; before writing their names on a passing comet they had to test their laser on something...
I'm surprised they keep this open for all users and somewhat wonder how long they can keep up the "free beta testing"... I mean; there is a lot of different software out there (sure, the Gimp but I'm also referring to other commercial software) and I think there is a growing awareness that Adobe is basically using its users as beta testers. I'm sure many will enjoy the quick preview, but how many will get the feeling that they're actually helping Adobe for free to wield out some of the bugs?
This is one of the reasons why some companies try to push beta testing forward as an exclusive privilege; people feel special and thus don't even consider the idea that they're basically helping out the company for free.
Now, I'm well aware that Photoshop is still quite ahead of the rest when it comes to specific editing features (I don't use it myself but a friend of mine uses it professionally), but it seems others are catching up here and there. So I wonder how long they can keep it up.
I wasn't planning on commenting but since you brought it up... So why do you need to pay? ;-)
Odd but somewhat understandable...
On one hand I have to agree with some critical comments above; it seems as if MS is taking it out on their customers (fans?) while they should be going after the bad guys as well. What I personally don't get is that when you request serials they become assigned to your account. Surely it should be detectable if such an serial was activated on more locations or on "odd" locations (for example; I conduct tests / studies within 2 LAN's which are joined through a VPN. Thus some software will talk to MS (for activation and such) using IP 'A' and the other 'B'.
Heck, I also have some software on my laptop which I primarily use for demonstrative purposes.
Surely it shouldn't be that hard to keep track of serials and the IP's they are being used on ?
But then again; I also think that the customers won't suffer as much as might be suggested here. Depending on what you're doing I think getting 2 (basic subscription) or 5 (professional subscription) serials is pretty decent. Also keep in mind that re-installing (and thus re-activating) also poses no issues. So its not as if you're severely limited in the stuff you can do with the requested serial.
On the positive side...
At least these kind of 'companies' still require your consent in giving them your social media credentials. Because the other scenario could be that they demand access from the social network site itself and thus access your data without you knowing.
I know, I know..."Impossible" because of "privacy concerns" and who knows what... Keep in mind though that money can do strange things to people. That is also assuming that we got all the details on what is going on.
We have the option to tell these bozo's to take a hike and hopefully that will be the end of it.
Re: That's a Hamster!
I bet they wanted to put a picture of a mouse up, but that could risk even more rampaging. And we have to think of the children, even if they are only mice ;-)
Actually voice control can be nifty. I've seen this working on the Windows Phone and its not bad at all.
However, there's a bigger fish to fry. How about /localized/ voice control ? Its nice that Microsoft is pushing this feature forward, but so far only English is supported on the Windows Phone. Surely one would expect them to work on that before they try to introduce it as a key feature.
Yes, but that's not the issue here.
Beta or not; Windows has always had options to raise an event to get it to break whatever it was doing. Heck; Windows 7 is very decent (IMO) when it comes to process management; not saying that it will never happen nor that it is impossible; but it has become a /lot/ harder for a mere application to render the whole OS useless.
So seeing that very behavior happening on Windows 8 seemingly without any means to get the system to forcefully close or kill the rampant program doesn't exactly show much reliability. NOT when this is supposed to succeed Windows 7, an OS which even critics have deemed quite decent.
Sure; its a beta. But its not as if they rewrote the entire OS from the ground up.
True, yet that is what triggered my (still unanswered) question...
On Windows 7 I've ran into some ickyness as well from time to time (self-inflicted, the system will go haywire if you run PowerShell as admin while calling some specific methods on wmi or com objects) but so far always managed to get out of that through use of control-alt-delete.
It raises an event which is then picked up by the OS core which then allows you to perform a few tasks (lock computer, logout, restart, start task manager). However, one would expect that Win8 would also have such a key event.
But this story seems to indicate that there are no (hardware) keys which one can use to reset the OS. Which I think could be a very big problem if the device becomes totally unresponsive.
Sure; worst case scenario you can always simply take out the batteries and then power it back on, but for something which is marketed as user friendly that seems a bit drastic to me.
So what /should/ have been done?
Over the year that I ran Windows 7 professional I've only experienced 1 BSOD; which was when I was messing with VirtualBox & Windows 8, so all in all not that surprising.
However; if Windows hangs you can always hit control-shift-escape or control-alt-delete, the latter usually forces the system to pick up after which you can start the task manager.
But what should you do when this happens on your tablet? Obviously your screen won't respond, so you probably need to push some button(s). But don't tell me that the only thing you can do is turn the system off (if you're lucky) ?
It is back ?!
Google originally closed down and wiped out the original thread of angry developers. I followed El Reg's link and I saw the "this is gone" (no literal quote) page.
And now its back ?
Could it be that Google is suddenly feeling the heat here?!
I personally "pick on Apple" because its a proven fact that they run the business in a rather arrogant way. People pay a lot of cash for their products yet get hardly any service in return (unless of course you pay extra for it).
And it doesn't matter to Apple if they violate national laws either. As could be seen in Holland a few months ago. A consumer TV program ("Radar") went to several Apple stores with an hidden camera and a "broken" product which was 1.5 years old. What to do?. Then they were told that "The warranty is 1 year, you could have purchased extra through iCare" the obvious question was raised: "But in Holland companies are forced /by law/ that consumers get 2 years of warranty, whats up with that?".
Only 1 employee from (iirc) an Amsterdam located Apple store told the reporter that she was right but since this was an Apple policy there was nothing they could do. Apple literally and on their own accord ignore Dutch laws. They don't care. And it seems they don't care for honest employee's either because despite the hidden camera the guy who told the reporter that she was right got tracked down and fired.
This is but one example; there are dozens more where products break outside the "Apple warranty" yet easily fall within the warranty period which is demanded by law. Apple obviously doesn't care.
THAT is one of the main reasons people "pick" on Apple. Heck, this same aspect is one of the reasons I "pick" /heavily/ on Microsoft when it comes to their XBox; scratched CD's up to a point where they were unusable. Microsoft initially blamed the customers and the way they used the XBox, when it eventually turned out that it was all caused by MS using an el-cheapo DVD player.
I don't pick on the XBox because Microsoft is a big bad company, or because they're rich or whatever. I pick on it because I think the way customers get / got treated totally /stinks/.
And that can be said for Apple as well.
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