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People look for doom scenario's
Its really as simple as that.
In the 50'er years we had several (public) nuclear tests. Needless to say but in those days a lot of "strange" (better put: unexplained) phenomenons were easily explained as being a result to "the nuclear tests".
We had an extreme cold winter. I recall it because we could skate right before our house. Yes, it was all due to the "Nuclear tests!" (damn yankees!).
The summer after that (this is all around 1980) we had an extremely hot period. Crops died, strips next to the roads which used to be green turned to brown. It was HOT. All due to the nuclear experiments!
I see a pattern here. It doesn't matter what the issue is; the reason is most likely explained by some people as being "the current threat".
Even if there is hardly a link possible. Lets take.... Global warming. Here in Holland we had the coldest day in the summer EVER since the past 30 years. It was even colder than 1st Christmas day last year (just in case: xmas day was in deep winter, this was during the summer).
"Global warming" some people say.
One or two years ago the winter we experienced was colder (commonly speaking minus 15 degrees) than the previous 20 years (IIRC: I can't guarantee that I missed stuff). "Global warming".
And yes; we also had the hottest summer day (iirc 2 years ago) and needless to say: "Global warming!".
Only 20 years ago all of the temperature issues were the result of "nuclear tests" and now its all "global warming".
Am I the only one who sees a pattern into all this? To me it seems as if we're really not so much afar from our ancestors who tried to explain all unfamiliar issues with fairytale stories.
Metro IS the problem
"the problem isn't the tablet-friendly Metro layer per se. It's the severe disruption to the everyday experience caused by integrating Metro front and centre."
I think the author doesn't get it. The change from start menu to (Metro) start screen is hardly the problem, because in the end people may complain but eventually will adapt to the changes. Its not even a problem that MS pushes this down our throats because in all fairness; MS has a tendency to "stick with their ideas" when they got something between their ears. You'll have a hard time convincing them of their errors. It has happened before and believe it or not: sometimes this actually turned out for the better.
No, being a very happy Metro user myself (on my Windows Phone, which use I really enjoy) I say Metro IS the problem when it comes to Windows 8. Especially for businesses, though I think also for end-users.
Put differently: To go from a Windowed "multitasking" environment to a one-program-per-screen environment is simply preposterous. And the worse part is that MS belief in this concept seems to reach the edge of fanaticism; even in the trusty desktop app we are no longer allowed to see what other programs are up to: No more taskbars in icons, no more quick program previews by hovering your mouse over the icon; all of that which was Aero will also be taken away. The desktop, like Metro, will mean "concentrate on the current program and don't bother with the rest". Just like the Metro doctrine.
THAT is your main problem. Metro basically means turning your back on everything which made Windows the specific environment it is today (Windows 7). This isn't about people needing to adapt, its about people who are no longer able to do the things they need to do in an (fairly) easy manner.
Not to mention that Metro is by far ready for desktop usage. Music player? Has no volume control. Picture viewer? Can't even touch the ease of use one gets with IrfanView. All flakey stuff which MS probably hopes to get replaced with 3rd party programs.
It doesn't even matter how much truth that statement holds or doesn't.
Fact of the matter is that such an approach is bound to appear with the high brass of companies which already use lots of MS based solutions. As such it would mean more revenue for MS.
Finally a smart move again...
I think MS is finally doing something smart again for a change. The Azure environment in its previous form was IMO majorly overpriced. Especially in comparison with already existing solutions.
But since they have the means for virtualization I think its a very smart move to start providing instances of Window server. If you can't trust Microsoft to provide a solid Windows environment, then who can you?
isn't it easy...
To spend money which isn't yours?
Morale of the story...
Use different passwords for different websites.
Be weary when linking social media passwords to access other (semi-important) websites.
I know it sounds cliche but I'm posting it anyway because I've been there too where I basically used the same (or slightly changed) password for lots of websites. But really; with all the current (IMO excellent) password agents around (even regular stuff such as OneNote can suffice) there should be no need for that anymore.
It takes a little bit of extra effort, but if something does go wrong then the damage is always limited.
And as for accessing contents from other places: don't you have a phone with an app for that which can also remember your password for you ?
Do you really need to text /his/ girlfriend instead of yours?
First time I see a secret affair being admitted on El Reg :-)
Not sure I agree. There also tends to be lots of confusion about this law (seems even with KPMG) and the versions I've read so far (can't be bothered to look for the original and try to make some sense out of it) are quite unanimous: the cookies which you should warn about are the so called session tracking cookies. So cookies which could be (ab)used by other websites to gather info about the stuff he or she did on your website.
But regular cookies such as keeping registration info for a website, "functionality cookies" (as I tend to call them; so making sure stuff works for the current website session) and all the other cookies which are required to make sure your site operates as normal do not fall under this law.
With that in mind I don't think this law is very stupid. Because the one thing people get bothered with are the trackers. The stuff which makes sure that the website still knows you looked for shoes, but also allows other websites to pick up this info and throw shoe ads in your face.
Its not as if that behavior couldn't be prevented ....
You treat it as if it were a baby.
So give the program plenty of rest (don't use it, its resting!), feed it with juicy updates; who cares if the updates do nothing as long as the program is happy, provide your software with a safe environment to play in; so make plenty of backups.
And the most important tip of them all: give it a cute name so that others will grow a liking to it too!
When you follow these simple guidelines then success is guaranteed. Don't trouble yourself with old fashioned stuff such as user friendliness, usability or paying attention to what your user base (if any *lol*) tell you. You don't need them!
(hey, stop making fun of me... You know, even Microsoft believes in me! Crap, that was suppose to be a secret...).
You make a valid point apart from one: Why would anyone caring for e-mail try to run the server on their home computer?
Because if you value your e-mail you'll make sure to have backups and are not depending on one single server. Especially not in an environment where an outage could easily occur (commonly speaking ISP's don't guarantee 90% uptime but work on best effort).
"Be careful when doing online banking", that's what this boils down to.
Its this reason why I always use MSIE's "InPrivate" navigation mode when doing stuff like this. This mode turns off /and/ blocks all plugins, history and (temporary) internet data such as cookies is saved in memory /only/ (so close browser, remove history & data) and because of this it also thwarts any tracking outside the current session.
And it does indeed help to use a bank which takes security seriously. Some banks tend to use a static list of numbers which you can use to authorize your transactions, which I personally consider quite stupid. With challenge/response you will at least rule out any extra options for the man in the middle.
My bank generates numbers which I need to process locally with my bankcard and pincode. A device generates a return code based on several aspects like account number, amount of money wired, account number to which money is transferred, etc.
So even if a 'man in the middle' tries to mess with the data by adding extra payments or such it would automatically render my signature invalid thus the whole transaction will fail.
And once again...
The UK has the last laugh for /not/ taking part in this horror comedy called "the Euro".
(written by a 'jealous' Dutchie ;-))
But how did work fare?
Apart from all the bugs you describe I kinda missed out on your experiences with the environment itself. How did work turn out to be? Surely you tried again to "download a file, run an installer and write an e-mail" ? How did all of that turn out on the end?
All I'm reading in this article is that Win8 RP still has a lot of bugs. Well, yeah; even as a Win8 critic I kinda expected no less. Another problem is that there is no way for us to tell if those bugs were actually Win8 related or were caused because you tried to insert a rogue PC into a work domain while systems administration might not have authorized you to do so.
No offense intended; but the idea alone to try beta software in a working environment strikes me as totally absurd.
For me its already too late; I bailed out a long time ago. Not towards Chrome but SeaMonkey. Still a Mozilla engine (which isn't bad at all IMO) but without the upgrade madness. However, I have been using MSIE9 more frequent as of late.
But onto ESR... I think its doomed to fail, and I'm not just saying because I'm not a believer. First of all; the ESR project is rather new. From what I can make of it (check the proposal on the Mozilla wiki) the base version is FF10 which was only released approx. 5 months ago. You can also clearly see the reasons behind it:
"The shift to a new release process has been difficult for organizations that deploy Firefox to their users in a managed environment. We've heard 2 primary concerns"
That new release process otoh has happened MUCH longer ago. Around FF5. So it took them 5 releases (which, I guess didn't take that long ;-) ) to finally realize that companies and more serious users actually got fed up with the speedy release dates and that this couldn't be maintained.
Something every regular user (myself included) could have told you up front. Heck, worse: most of us DID on fora such as El Reg. Guess this is the kind of attention we got: /none/.
Concluding from that I think its safe to say that this whole ESR contraption is nothing more than damage control. Too little too late? That I can't say, but I have very little faith in it. Why?
You see; it seems that the main thrive was to present a version ASAP which would be "Firefox" but without the "upgrade madness". Now I wonder: how much preparation went into this project ?
Because there is something Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Support) has clearly shown us... Maintaining such a project is relatively easy. Not saying its a piece of cake, DON'T get me wrong. But its doable.
But actually maintaining it in such ways where the user can easily upgrade (move) from one LTS version to the next has so far proven to be more than difficult. In fact, in my experience that upgrade has often been plain out impossible. You were better off with backing up your data, wiping your disk clean and re-install.
Sure; Firefox is a browser and not a whole OS, I see that. But I cannot help, considering the context I've pictured above, if it won't eventually fall right into the same trap as Ubuntu LTS has. What guarantees are there that upgrading ESR won't actually give even MORE headaches and issues than a regular browser ? Especially considering that the project is sort off brand new ?
Another aspect which would make me very weary on this... Didn't Mozilla state some months ago that they didn't really care for the Enterprise and wouldn't be targeting it ? In fact, I recall them saying this around FF5 when they started their new upgrade policy. Could it be that when they finally realized that it was actually seriously hurting their market share that they changed their course?
How could you not be skeptical about a long-termed project when the company behind it has already shown to produce very poor results when working out long term strategies ?
I know I'm a critic, but I don't see this working out.
This is merely a test drive...
While we're made to think that MS is busy hunting malware and such this is really a ruse...
Because when Win8 ships Redmond is needs to be ready for a lot of new released malware which will trick users into running it in order to "re-install the start menu". As such; a field test was in order!
They'll just have to wait a few billion years...
I'm sure when Andromeda has come a little closer there will be whole new opportunities again to search for aliens.
Its about time!
I've had several Samsung phones for the last 6 - 8 years now (from cellphone to smartphone so to say) and I have to agree that this is the only thing where Samsung seems behind; the little extra's.
My last phone came with Route 66 free of charge which I considered a welcome extra (I became quite fond of this software). But in all fairness: this was more due to a limited / timed action than something "per design".
They're doing a great job though, don't get me wrong. When looking at my own phone (Windows Phone) they even managed to implement extra features which other Window phones don't seem to have. Stuff like being able to ignore anonymous callers, enable/disable key vibration feedback (when pressing 'back' or 'search' the phone quickly vibrates) and even being able to automatically set the screen brightness based on environment.
But when it comes to applications they're a bit behind. A 'Now' application which gets me the current weather, stocks and value ratings is fun. A navigation app. which Nokia provides free of charge could be a lot more appealing.
So I think it really is about time they'd catch up a little. Quite frankly I think Samsung has plenty of potential to make this happen.
For example; using my Samsung printer I can easily print stuff (pictures, e-mail, Office documents) straight from my phone. Better: if need be I can even scan something and have the results sent directly to my phone (or move it from the phone straight onto SkyDrive should the document become too large). All thanks to "Mobile Print". A Samsung app. which I favor very much.
MS has a tendency to do "good stuff" these days
I'm not surprised with this move and although I'll admit to have some bias (a LOT (seriously) is being eaten away with the monstrosity called Win8) I do think we need to give MS credit here.
A few weeks back a friend of mine using an iPhone came over. I have a Windows Phone. We both claim to have an interest in privacy concerns and as such I was wondering if his iPhone really did only do stuff opt-out. Which it did. Some options were even so deeply burried that he never managed to find them.
In strict contrast; my Windows Phone doesn't collect nor send back /any/ data unless I want it to. By default most data collection options are defaulted to "off" even though MS would probably benefit if I'd turn them on. Others are important enough to raise the question to me but in general; MS leaves the choice to the user.
And I think that does them some credit.
Don't get me wrong here.... I can also see where it comes from. Lets be honest here; MS needs all the credit they can get. Only one hour in the Win8 release preview and its driving me completely NUTS.
So I have an mp3 on the network (so easy to get to that, NOT). I double click it and as can be expected a metro app appears playing my music. Ok...
So now I want to turn down the volume... Where the FUCK is the volume control? THERE IS NONE!
Sure, if you manage to charm the pos you'll get to the settings and from there can eventually turn down the overall volume. But that's not the point!
I have a Metro music player without so much as a volume control. How on earth can anyone call this user friendly?
SO I start a lot of apps. Eventually Music disappears from my list. So now I have music playing without any means to stop, pause or skip it. Apart from going to the start screen again, re-starting music from there and only then....
I'm getting a headache here.
Yeah, I read as much but that is also the reason why I have serious doubts. For someone who has been playing Tomb Raider 1 it just doesn't add up. She went "mental" when her parents died, that experience made her into the woman she was.
I see everything which modern gameplay seems to fancy; I see boobs (sort off), I see gore, I see violence. Yet I don't see anything which would make this game stand out, at least not for me.
Action, violence and such were never what made Tomb Raider one of my favorites. The puzzles, the suspense (especially this!) and the coolness factor of Ms. Croft. "Pierre, you litterbug"... Priceless.
The trailer looks nice from a game perspective. Very detailed and such.
But when it comes to personality I think they're taking a step backwards. Lara used to have a pretty confident personality. But in this game it seems she's been reduced to a "screamy" doubtful bimbo. I get that impression anyway due to all the moaning and "I can't do it", "I need help" that kind of stuff.
Stranded on an island? Sure, the Lara as I knew her would obviously call out for help. But not in a tone as if she desperately needed help or would otherwise perish. Lara could cope, or would /find/ ways to cope.
That whole aspect is IMO an important part of the persona Lara Croft and it seems as if that is taken away in this game.
I wonder... Remote island, being kept prisoner, hostage, etc. Far Cry 3 is also said to take place on a remote island where people go crazy... Tomb Raider meets Far Cry 3? That'd be cool :-)
The thing bothering me the most...
Is knowing that by the time we'll have the ultimate Windows version which will make everyone on the planet happy we'll only have a few days left to enjoy it.
Because right then Andromeda will come crashing in and disrupt our whole solar system.
Re: Flash from the past
Actually it looks more like Windows 1; a big pile of stuff to click and after you click it it appears on screen.
Major difference being that instead of full screen Windows actually knew how to tile stuff back then. A lesson I think they'll have to re-learn.
As a matter of a fact I happen to own a WinPhone myself (Samsung Omnia W) and actually enjoy its usage. I wholeheartedly agree that Metro definitely has a place there.
But a 3.8" touch screen is hardly comparable to a 19 - 24 " static screen where the PC gets all its input from a keyboard and mouse.
Another important difference: On my phone the Metro screen /is/ the main interface. Because of its nature my phone only runs full screen (Metro) apps and nothing more. Bit obvious since you don't go move Windows about on a 3.8" display.
But on my 24" screen PC? My desktop (where all my stuff resides) is my main interface. That's where most of my stuff gets started.
WHY would it be a good thing not being able to start something as calc.exe and have it sitting on my desktop (where I also have Word & Excel) but instead being taken away from all that and get it full screen ?
I don't like having to use alt-tab all the time merely to type over a number which I've got through means of a calculation. That's not progress; that's totally absurd.
"Why do you think you're stuck in Metro?"
I'm not saying you're stuck, if you /get/ stuck. I know reading tends to be hard, but come on here :-)
FYI: even metro applications can crash and even metro, as a whole, can stall. That's what I've been experiencing a few times when checking up the CP. As such: if you press control-alt-escape I know nothing happens because the task manager pops up in the desktop app. but since the desktop is now degraded to an app. and the task manager only supercedes everything on the desktop...
If you get stuck in Metro you remain stuck. Because MS has never bothered to think about a security line / option which is capable of superceding Metro.
Yet another disadvantage over plain Windows. And they keep stacking up.
I've given this much thought myself because its hard to understand and all.
Right now my only conclusion is that Ballmer has seen too many episodes of Dr. Who and is now under the impression that going backwards will eventually by some weird twisted timeloop mean they'll run forwards again and thus make LOTS of money.
Its the only logical explanation I can come up with ;-)
If I weren't you'd be seeing exclamation marks and such :)
Sorry but it doesn't matter if there are ways to circumvent the now coming limitations. Fact of the matter remains that valuable features get removed "because". And users will have to cope.
That's hardly user friendly and IMO reason enough for people to get upset.
"fucksakes, people. The sky is not falling."
Your desktop is NOT fine. Because inside the desktop you no longer have Aero at your disposal. This is a very big thing for me; the simplicity of being able to look at the status of a program (copying, downloading, other stuff) by merely looking at its icon to see the progress bar there as well.
Its not merely Metro alone these days, its also because they took valuable options away from other places.
Indeed, which is a problem by itself.
If you get stuck in Metro and hit control-alt-escape, guess where the task manager appears ?
In the desktop app, where you're not switching to because well.... you're stuck in Metro.
Such a wonderful design.
IF your screen resolution matches the requirements. Even that is an issue these days; because being able to do this in 640x480 (for example; if you're doing rescue maintenance) is SO passe.
Has Bruce Willis been informed?
I know all he does is mining asteroids, but it wouldn't hurt to sent the crew towards Andromeda to see what they can do, no?
I'm gonna get it, but...
I know I'm not going to enjoy it.
Heck; even looking at the screenshot in the article shows the idiocy (my opinion) of Win8.
You can see a live tile called 'pictures'. I also have that sitting on the main screen of my Windows Phone, I actually like it. Its a tile (using the full width of my phone's screen) which rotates between pictures which I marked as 'favorite'.
So I use my phone and I often see parts (picture obviously doesn't fully fit so it scrolls) of the pictures I like to see. Given that I don't go over my picture collection on a daily basis its always a nice extra touch (IMO of course).
But on Windows 8? Let me put it this way: Why would I want to have rotating screenshots visible on my start menu (also knowing this gobbles up hardware resources). In a *start* MENU.
Even if you go with the "Metro doctrine" it makes no sense. The start screen (the official name!) is after all meant to /start/ stuff.
If you like stuff such as that (I do to be honest) you'd have it on the location you use the most /AND? reside in the longest. Yes; I have a pictures gadget sitting on my Win7 desktop. It makes sense because I get to see that quite often.
Why would you want this on a start screen only used to quickly start stuff ?
To me Win8 is becoming more unappealing by the day it seems...
I think the author overlooked a major issue.
By default you download a 5 Mb executable which can then setup the whole OS for you.
BUT you can /also/ download an ISO image. Which is either 3.3Gb for 64bit and 2.5Gb for 32bit.
Come El Reg, we should be able to expect better coverage than that!
If it weren't for your (IMO lousy) pre-installed "Virus protection" which of course will only run for 3 months then many computer illiterates wouldn't start off with a feeling of security and then ignoring the possible warnings because: "Nah, my friend told me virus protection is free. I don't have to worry.".
Because THAT is what happens in many of occasions. If virus companies /really/ - cared - for security they wouldn't be pushing free trial-licensed products which expire in a few months but they'd put free versions onto those new PC's and try to convince the new buyer why it would be a better idea to upgrade to a paid version (which, in all honesty, can sometimes provided advantages for the specific user IMO).
Quite frankly; studies like these annoy me. Because the company which performed the study is IMO also largely responsible for the end result.
This problem goes much deeper...
And you, El Reg, were fully part of it. What I see in this article is the pot calling the cattle black.
Or have you already forgotten your story where it was allegedly proven that IE users are dumb as a bag of hammers ? You probably tried hard to forget it, but you know; this is the Innernets ;-)
Don't feel too much pained for you were in very good company there. Even local national newspapers (in Holland) prominently carried this story, as if it were a major issue.
Yet that is the underlying issue which symptoms you mention here. Major news companies often do not check sources period. That's /period/.
A development which is very disturbing considering how many people often follow one single news source. Sure, people I'd be tempted to call "less educated" but would be better described as: "much less interested.".
Sure; in the end it /is/ the fault of the masses who will blindly believe a story when it comes from a "reliable source". In the end you should always be very weary when it comes to news credibility and if a story really interests you its a good idea to take some time and read multiple papers with multiple views on the matter.
But as said: this isn't merely about pictures and ownership violation. Its about news agencies who will easily cut corners if a certain story seems so interesting or extreme that they might make a good name with it if they can get it published ASAP.
Don't forget El Reg: you were once full part of that. So lets be a little easy when it comes to criticizing other news agencies, but also dare to put the finger on the sore spot. And you know darn well where that is!
Hint: this isn't about theft or imaging licensing.
Actually nothing has been decided yet
They agreed on some motions to reject it, but they are /not/ fully rejecting it just yet. In fact; right now the government awaits the result of the EU court which is currently investigating if ACTA violates basic rights for the EU citizens.
Once those results are in, only then will the government (which isn't even officially active; we're awaiting new elections) decide on its stance with regards to ACTA.
Its that reason why many politicians have called this action "Totally irrelevant" (quote from Maxime Verhagen, minister of economic affairs).
So we haven't said no yet. In fact; I wouldn't be one bit surprised if we'll simply let Brussel (EU) handle all this. That way our own politicians don't have to take any responsibility. Which of course is very preferable right before the elections are coming up.
Unfortunately our government has absolutely no problems by embedding (and enforcing) European law if that somehow suits them. Doesn't even matter if such a particular law goes right against local rulings or even makes the lives of us Dutch harder. "Sorry, that's the EU law".
(Of course when it doesn't really suit them they also have no problems /rejecting/ an EU law because... Well, for whatever reason they come up with at that time (not making this up, this has happened several times in the last years)).
As such; don't get your hopes up yet.
Unless the end credits are already rolling, then you're pretty safe.
I think you're generalizing...
Being one of those smaller consultancy players I think you're setting a wrong example.
"Firstly, a consultancy or reseller is going to be selling me by time, methodically setting up firewall rules taking a day is more profitable than someone who knows the trick to doing it in an hour."
That's where you're wrong, and your own article even supports this. Because this approach will only upset your client in the longer run. And no matter what age we live in: the customer is /always/ the customer. Aka; the one who hopefully will help pay for your salary.
Yes, my firm also sells by time. But we make very sure that the customer realizes what he gets for that time. If you ask us to check up your firewall and "enhance it" then obviously it takes time. We'd need to study your environment and know how it has been setup /before/ we apply any changes. That has NOTHING to do with "increasing sale time", but /everything/ with doing a job best as possible. Unless of course you'd rather see that we quickly implement the changes you requested without even fully knowing ourselves that it won't clash with other stuff.
Needless to say... Would you have asked us to provision your server and then ask us to implement a specific change then guess what? Because we will at that time be fully familiar with your environment - up front - the changes will probably only take... 5 minutes ?
IMO you're drawing the wrong conclusions.
Because in the end a customer who will stick with us for the upcoming years to come is MUCH more profitable to us than merely trying to cash in extra time and get a few extra bucks. Just read your own article; obviously you only met parties which did went after the extra cash and from what I'm reading you're not very fond of their services anymore.
How is that "more profitable" ?
Not exactly. MFC has never been supported within Express as far as I know. Even the Express versions dated from 2005 did not support MFC, only if you went professional.
So IMO you're making a false comparison; we're talking about MS actually stopping to provide support for certain tasks.
True, but what does not make sense is that they're basically preparing to throw away their current market /without/ knowing if that market is really ready for it.
Example: say we're in the Win8 era. Some corporations might have moved to Windows 7 by then. Win9 is on the horizon. What would a company which mostly uses desktops best strategy be then when it comes to desktop upgrades and maintenance and such ?
Surely not Windows 8. Windows 9 perhaps? No, that's too young; business usually settle for proven solutions.
But what other alternative is there?
Say; how much would it cost to pick up a Linux distribution and maintain it in-house? Or picking it up and let another company maintain it for you?
1 ugly Metro interface vs. at least a dozen desktop managers.
Office and Outlook? Simple; pick the right tool for the job, you get Office 365 (which easily runs in a browser) and as such all Linux computers suddenly have MS Office support (sort off). OR you go the extra mileage and look into Libre or Open office.
As such.... Don't you think its also very liable that MS could be very busy digging their own grave with all this?
Back to lockdown?
If you want to get people interested in your platform you should provide them with enough means to fully utilize it. And although Balmer made the whole thing look ridiculous he did have a point when he ranted about 'developers'.
But this is obviously not the way to go and might hurt the business.
Lets talk about non-professional developers here; like your average sysadmin. The Express version of C# allow me to build PowerShell extensions which I can then use on my server(s). This option (among others) is one the things which make Windows appealing to me; being able to /do/ stuff and not being tied down.
And I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of people using Express because what they do simply doesn't warrant a huge investment into a full VS, an environment which starts ticking at around $500,-.
There's more to Windows then the interface itself, I'm amazed that MS doesn't seem to be realizing this anymore.
I bet MS used their own new "engine" (so.cl) to search for information on this subject. Only to have some people tag it "Window 8" (or other crap) after which the topic suddenly takes a whole new turn with lots of extra (often unwanted) crap.
That's what you get guys from trying to re-invent the wheel :-)
You know the sad part? I didn't make up the stuff about so.cl :P
And so I finally got on...
I honestly tried to approach this with an open mind considering how I think Windows Live is quite tolerable, Win7 enjoyable and Office 2010 bearable (I also kinda enjoy it but heck).
SO... Its a search engine. Okee...
I search for "Anime" and get several hits I'm not interested in. Ok, so I search for 'Ableton' which is the name of a software company as well as DAW environment. Only to have some nitwit 'tag' my search result as "Windows 8". WTF?
So now there sits a "feed" somewhere which I apparently made; it says "Ableton", it lists some screenshots and other stuff and because it tagged "Windows 8" it also lists a whole lot of Windows 8 crapola.
And of course; one can only "like" things, can cannot "dislike" or "no" vote stuff. Wonderful...
So I eventually find the option to edit my "post" (WTF?!) and remove a tag. Only to get greeted by some weird error message.
And so I eventually managed to remove the entire "post" (what post, I was only trying to use a search engine ?).
Only to have that pesky person all of sudden follow me. Yeah right; I bet to tag more serious stuff I look for as "windows 8".
RIGHT, so that's my experience so far.
And it leaves me wondering: Why the HECK would I want to use this utter and total display of CHAOS instead of my trusty search bar in the browser which gets me to Google or Bing ?
Who cares that when person A searches for item "B" several people might find the time to immediately "like" it and "tag" it. What good does this do ME ?
AND why can't I rant like this on a social network? On Live I can put "Looking at so.cl, WHAT A MESS!" in my status.
As such my conclusion: FAIL!
Its down already it seems...
SO I have a Live ID which I used. It took them a while but I finally got an e-mail telling me I was invited to join the party.
So I follow the link (copy/paste) and guess what? "Webpage can't be shown" (IE). When doing this in SeaMonkey I immediately get warnings about redirect loops ("redirection limit for this URL exceeded").
So SeaMonkey refuses to show, MSIE9 simply barfs on me... This is the new social stuff?
It seems they got one thing right...
And that's allowing people to use aliases.
Of course I can't tell for sure because after trying to logon using my Live ID I've been told to wait for an approval e-mail hasn't arrived yet.
Another thing which looks reasonable are the privacy rulings. I think its a nice touch that they enhanced the sections which cover privacy themselves so that you can easily read what data they're trying to collect.
Still, I can't help wonder if MS hasn't been looking too much at Google here. You know; limiting access to their environment and getting people to invite each other and so. While it may have worked for Google that is of course no guarantee it will also work for MS.
No bad mouthing intended but I can see it happening now on my end: After a few weeks I finally get an e-mail from this so.cl thing yet totally forgot all about it. "Nah, probably sent by mistake", never to be seen there again....
He overlooks one detail
Devices /shipped/ with OS != Devices always /running/ with OS.
Has he already forgotten what most people did when they could no longer buy an XP PC and ended up with Vista ?
He always stood out...
Now, while I don't think the Next Generation is all that bad they couldn't match the acting qualities of Scotty IMO.
"Relics"; as a passenger on the starship Jenolan Scotty is involved in a crash onto the surface of a strange globe. He and a person called "Franklin" are the only survivors of the crash. Aware that they're from a position far away from normal routes Scotty realizes that a rescue might take a while so he decides what he does best: by rigging the transporter he manages to get it into a continuous diagnostic cycle. Then he transports himself and Franklin; being the first person to survive for 60 years inside a transporter.
In this episode you get to see Scotty and LaForge together and quite frankly I think Scotty was the better engineer. When he started talking about the Dyson sphere you could /hear/ the enthusiasm and awe he had for the "technological achievement". To which LaForge could only flatly comment: "Yeah, its quite impressive" while sounding as he didn't even really mean it.
That guy was a classic... "Synthetic scotch, synthetic commanders....".
However, I do think the guy who plays Data does manage to come very close with his acting. Very well seen when he offers Scotty a drink of a non-synthahol beverage..
Scotty: "What is it?"
Data: "It is...." Data looks at the bottle, only to see there's no label on it.
He then opens the bottle to identify the scent, fully convinced that he can now answer Scotty's question Data starts: "It is....", but apparently this isn't part of his memory banks.
Data looks at Scotty: "It is green.".
Scotty now makes a gesture saying "Well, let me have it".
That dear reader is what I call a classic :-)
But being of an older generation probably left the guy a little hard-hearing. That tends to cause some shouting too ;-)
Seems an earlier comment wasn't that much off....
In a previous comment I jested at MS removing support options from Windows (keyboard / mouse) because people could be bothered with the inability to use them.
However, this latest move makes one seriously wonder....
Aero is /much/ more than merely a shiney interface. Its highly functional as well; the option to have status bars display in the taskbar icons is IMO invaluable. In Windows 7 you can /always/ see the progress of a download or copy action.
In Windows 8 you should be using full screen crapola anyway, so who cares about all that Aero nonsense anymore?
Well: I DO!
This is yet another reason to avoid Win8 on the desktop.
Re: STOP IT
Uhm... XP /is/ still supported ;-)
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