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My only recommendation wrt 365...
Was when a business (client) of mine was looking for a relative easy external Exchange server for use with their internal Outlook clients and external phone clients. In those cases I think Exchange-online (part of 365) can be helpful.
But all the rest of 365 is something I'm not getting my business involved with. IMO too much risk of extensive support costs overlay (who do you think the customer will contact with problems, hm?).
When it comes to Office then I always recommend the desktop (2010) over the cloud.
That's not tiny, that's plenty of room to play with /if/ you know how to write the software for it.
Just because modern OS's continue to use as much memory as they can doesn't automatically make it a demand.
Just a test, nothing to see...
Its simply Google which tries to come up with new ways to delete all the wifi data these cars are slurping.
The era of commercialisation hath begun...
Now, don't get me wrong... Microsoft is a company like any other and the main thing which drives a company is making a profit. Nothing wrong with that.
But aren't they overdoing things a little as of late?
I mean; Office 2010. I fire up Word, and I want to start a new document, say a contract. I simply select new document, go to the templates section and from there I can search a whole collection of templates straight from office.com. That's simply good service which IMO adds to the overall value of the product. People & companies provide templates for others to use them, available straight from within Office.
But these days it seems to me as if MS wants to get rid of all that and instead introduce stores where we should buy into all this.. Of course while they sit at the middle of the revenue; both developers and users need to pay Microsoft.
I hope we do realize the risk here... Its not unimaginable that Microsoft will simply provide less software and features themselves, and let the gaps be filled in by (paying!) 3rd parties. So effectively getting customers to pay more while they actually get less.
This is why I follow El Reg
#1 Before my local (Holland) news media picks up online.
#2 Really putting your alias into glory: cynical and critical where it counts.
No; even if all of that turns out to be untrue ('a billion miles after the intended place'?) (as I read it) it still doesn't matter to me because in all honesty your site description leaves little to guess. I /know/ before even reading the article you'll question whatever comes before you. Most often you're right, sometimes you're not, and sometimes you're tricked.
No one can accuse you guys for never trying. Lets not forget: "Sometimes you're not" can also easily occur due to the source changing its story (seriously meant, it honestly it happens sometimes BUT.. in "El Reg style": How is THAT for a fanboy comment?!).
Making it harder to activate Windows 8 copies, I think that's a development anyone can root for!
Oh; only illegal copies. nvm ;)
Re: Epic fail
"Not checking for trademarks and coming to some agreement with others holding that trademark before naming the fscking software is just... unprofessional."
Now don't be mean here. MS had promised this company a /free/ copy of WIn8, its not their fault that this company doesn't want anything to do with it.
The official name for the start screen has always been "Live Tiles" or 'tiles'. So no problems there.
You actually thought there's logic and sanity behind advertising ?
Too much assumptions IMO
First we had a defaced website with some name about it. Then someone boasting about it. Only problem; the boasting which I have seen so far is someone mentioning that the site was hacked, anyone could have done that IMO.
Then its being told that they demanded the data back and he refused. The snippets otoh show an English convo where this alleged hacker had to use translation tools because he apparently didn't understand English too well. I'm pretty sure you can get someone like that to admit to anything you want.
But this makes me wonder; did the Anonymous types perhaps also have access to the server, did they actually got to see the logs and with that information managed to identify the intruders IP address?
Or did this whole story simply go like so many others: they assumed this guy to be guilty simply because he talked about the hack on social media? So far the shared material doesn't exactly fill any gaps and doesn't even proof anything beyond reasonable doubt.
For all we know it could have been Anonymous itself behind it which then used this situation to make themselves look good.
Now; I'm not denying that this is a useful tool and I fully agree with Stuart up there (+1 on its way after this).
But isn't the timing a bit odd?
I mean.. We could have used this years ago. But the upcoming future (as seen by MS) gives us development tools totally focussed on Metro, a Metro Office and (this is important): the fact that Metro by itself is basically a locked down environment. I think the latter is a very positive Metro achievement, but all the collateral (software only through marketplace) isn't.
So I don't quite get it. Metro was locked down from the getgo, its by design.
Could it be that MS is feeling the heat after all and are now releasing tools to secure the desktop app. best as possible?
Hack /and/ a hoax
First; the whole Outlook.com stuff is a hack, and a very crude one at that. I'm not saying this due to the interface or such; that's fine enough to work with. If you work with Outlook 2010 on a daily basis (which I do) then its even somewhat bearable. No, if you select any other option besides mail; like the used-to-be integrated SkyDrive or Calendar function you're taken right back to the old Hotmail interface. In my opinion that's a too poor of a design to be even remotely funny.
At the very least give us users a properly integrated environment to work with instead of something which feels like several individual parts roughly glued together by a couple of huge buttons.
But I also call this a hoax... "One million people signed up" ? No, that would be 999.999 because I never signed up for this; I was simply thrown into Outlook.com the moment when I checked my Hotmail inbox. I tried outlook.com but gave up and moved back to Hotmail. Why not if you're constantly thrown back into Hotmail anyway the very moment when you want to check your SkyDrive or calendar using something else besides your phone (I'm on WP7) ?
This is IMO another classic example as to why MS needs to get their act together and stop ruining good working stuff "because". Haven't those idiots (personal opinion) never stopped to think that while outlook.com may attract some new users it could also mean others might walk off when you enforce this upon them?
But my biggest gripe with all this, the one which IMVHO overshadows all: When oh when will Microsoft FINALLY realize that the only time they should launch a new product is WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY READY ?!!1
(1 was typed for a more dramatic effect ;-))
Seriously; they had a not too bad (IMO) * integrated * environment from which you could access your mail, your Messenger contacts, Calendar /and/ SkyDrive all from the same web interface. And they broke it up for reasons I haven't managed to grasp yet.
Simple; "Windows 2".
Because then some marketing guy will finally realize that they need more 'tech' into Windows, some decisions will most likely have been reversed and 9 could be the "new" Windows environment "everybody will recognize again".
And what better way to promote your new "tech OS" 'Windows 10' as "Windows 2" and show the world how smart (and 'tech') you are ? ;-)
"I don't think that any OS has ever created such an unenthusiastic release. The only people that seem truly interested are [¨fill in your own word here , I can't think of anything suitable]."
Seem or seemed? I was pretty interested in the OS too, was especially wondering about the new WinRM (Remote management) service which would introduce PowerShell 3.0. I played with it and the MMC environment (was also curious about new MMC modules).
Unfortunately the emphasis lies on 'was'. The underlying Windows management structure (which IMO is pretty decent and even impressive here and there) shows very few exciting new features or developments.
There's not even enough for me to remotely consider grabbing the upcoming version of Win8 through my TechNet subscription.
"Assuming that nothing has changed, this isn't a big story."
I disagree. If nothing has changed then it is kinda big because it would mean that MS didn't remove Aero support, didn't remove gadget support and basically held onto a lot of other eye candy in the desktop. While they seemed pretty sure it all had to go (probably fearing the risk it would make the desktop app. too appealing, I dunno).
So if they reversed that decision then that is big IMO. Because it means they actually listened (for the first time) to their potential customers who complained that functionality was taken more and more blows for the worst.
And Windows Virtual PC?
I think MS isn't telling us the whole story here. Either that or I misread.
When you check out the Med-V Overview (TechNet link) you'll notice that it is a separate piece of software which allows you... Well, we read the articles here.
But what about Virtual PC? Or put better: "Windows XP Mode"? These are totally different products, and Microsoft uses this as a sales argument because /only/ owners of Windows 7 Professional and higher are entitled to pick up "Windows XP mode" and use it on their Windows 7 environment. That would make me assume that "sold together with Win7 pro (or higher), thus one could expect support until Win7 pro (or higher) are themselves no longer supported".
You can't even send feedback!
Sorry for 2 posts after one other, but look at what I got after switching back:
After moving back to Hotmail I was asked (pleaded?) to send feedback. Ok, we'll do that...
Pick a product:
"Calendar, Groups, Hotmail, Live@Edu, Messenger, Profile, SkyDrive" and the rest is all "Windows Live *". (Windows Live Account, Windows Live Events, etc.). I figured "Windows Live Mail" but all the welcome messages and welcome email calls the new interface "Outlook". ("Welcome to Outlook", "Get an Outlook email address", "Tell us what you think of Outlook").
So why can't I comment on a product called "Outlook" ?
Talk about a hack....
Very under impressive
I use Hotmail and such quite a lot, just like I use Outlook 2010, so you'd assume I should like this.
Well, I think the whole setup is a very crude hack which is also quite annoying to work with.
I gave the new Outlook a try and well.. So far, so good. I have my folders, I have my quickviews. Not too nasty. And then I tried to access my SkyDrive which is also important to me. The switch screen looks awfull; a big black bar (1/5th of the screen at least) appears with 4 huge icons in it. Why couldn't those icons sit in my titlebar?
So I click SkyDrve and what do you know... All of a sudden you're taken back into the /old/ Hotmail interface and your SkyDrive folders appear.
That's not a new implementation of e-mail, that's a very crude and incomplete /hack/. IMO a stupid one at that.
I switched back right back to Hotmail. After all; I'll be moving back anyway whenever I access my SkyDrive or Calendar. They also "forgot" to port the online Messenger.
They've done a "decent" job is more like it IMO. I mean; how come that 3rd party social media apps. are way more popular than the native support? Because those provide much better access.
Don't get me wrong; I tend to agree with you. But I'd be more impressed if MS would have fixed the option which allows us WP7 users to sync todo lists with Outlook 2010 and WP7 /first/ (the Outlook Hotmail connecter still can't cope with this).
A 'different' wrong...
Not too sure how to react to the whole pr0n thing. I can't imagine a pr0n ban nor even imagine what positive affect it would have, guess this is proof that "if you ban something common it'll go underground".
Instead I wonder if the kids parents aren't fighting symptoms here. It appears that instead of reprimanding the kid for not putting enough time into his studies they're simply in the process of taking away the distracting factor. Now, assuming he doesn't have to go to jail I can't help wonder: What will those parents do when the next major distraction turns up?
Say the guy meets a cute girlfriend and his study efforts drop again? Are they going to force him not to see her then or something?
Why not, instead of reporting this whole thing to the police, reprimand the kid not to slack off his studies and actually teach him that no matter what the distraction: you got to set priorities for yourself (this is of course assuming they didn't, the article wasn't quite clear on that but this appears to be the case) ?
My guess would be at least until such time that there are any streets to view.
There is more to it...
Building a community is one thing, knowing how to treat it right is something else completely.
Not directly open source but I'm very deeply involved with synthesizers, sound synthesis and electronic music in general. To that end I follow a few support forums for some of the products I own (Ableton Live & Reason being the best examples here).
But quite frankly these two forums I mentioned above are /much/ more than mere support forums. Because the companies behind these products allow for users to, well, use the forums for much more besides product support. Ranging from product related questions, obviously, right to specific topics which only involve electronic music or sound synthesis in general.
And... And they /also/ allow for people to spout off their negative opinions about the products, services and basically the whole kaboodle. Sure; they keep somewhat of a (light) lid on it so that matters don't get out of hand, but in general people are pretty much free to out their opinions. And /that/ is one way to build a community.
I for one still recall how the Propellerhead forums at one time almost exploded when Propellerhead software (company behind Reason) made some specific business decisions about the way to provide new upgrades to their software.
Yet it survived without little or no moderation and people still enjoy themselves there.
Then there is another forum for a very well known DAW which name I won't mention here... The forum is kept under a tight leash and the very moment when someone shares something which could give the impression of something negative for their product(s) they're usually advised to take it directly up with support and keep things out of the forums.
And that is one way to ruin a community, even right before one has yet to form.
As such my comment: there is much more to building up a community....
"Got nothing to hide..."
"The ICO immediately responded to the confession by demanding that the company hand over the data for inspection."
IMO this is a classic example as to why the well known "defense" of "I got nothing to hide anyway" is simply an utter fail. It doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not or what kind of data it is all about, the real issue is how the collecting party is going to (ab)use it.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't really mind the stuff Google did. Yet all of a sudden these people aren't so happy anymore now that the government gets involved. Whatever happened to "I got nothing to hide anyway", eh ?
THAT is why a lot of "tin-foil head wearing people" such as myself can get pretty upset over data slurping events such as this one right from the getgo, and not only when an unpopular party gets involved.
Win - Win
Microsoft produces tablet-like-laptops which even appeal to me. It runs Win8, all aimed at touch.
Other manufacturers get so upset and ticked off that they continue to sell PC's with Windows 7 despite MS' demands to stop sales in order to push Windows 8 forward.
I'd call that a win-win situation ;-)
Over here in Europe we're usually at 50Hz but even so; my monitor sits at 70Hz. My options are: 60, 70, 72 and 75Hz.
I suggest you consider getting better hardware or more suitable drivers for whatever you're using.
"Microsoft don't need to push Windows 8 to the business sector (nothing wrong with trying) but they have Windows 7 for that."
Sure, but there's a potential flaw in your reasoning there: history shows that as soon as a new Windows version is released Microsoft will stop selling the previous version.
SO if companies need new PCs, then what ?
"All the rest of the time I have a desktop that is fully populated with icons to launch programs and open documents."
And that is /exactly/ the problem right there. I'm glad it works for you, but I don't /want/ my desktop to be filled up with crap aka dozens of icons. Its a hack and IMO a dumb one (no offense).
I use Word a lot, so I'd need Word in there as well as two of my main templates. So far, so good. But I often use certain documents for certain periods of time. Say I'm writing a report on server migration options as well as risk assessment; I want those reports to be easily accessible. But I'm doing more than that obviously; there are also Excel sheets to work with and sporadically a PowerPoint presentation.
So now I end up making documents (which reside in their own directories of course), only to manually open said file locations and then make symlinks on the desktop for each document which I think I may quickly need. When I'm done with certain reports I don't need those any longer, so then I should remove them again. That's a /lot/ of extra work for no valid reason (other than "Windows can't do it anymore").
Microsoft is violating the golden rule of: "If it isn't broke, don't fix it". What's even worse is that they're /lying/ about it by claiming that the particular tool was actually broken while everyone who gives this a moment of thought will immediately realize that this is poor comedy which doesn't involve the start menu at all. All Microsoft is after is providing an interface which is suited for touch interfaces as best as possible. "Screw the rest".
The one thing I don't get about this powerhouse
Is that it runs Windows 7 Home Premium.
Maybe this is the sysadmin in me but I'd somewhat had expected Win7 Professional to be used.
But apart from that this looks pretty promising indeed. I'm pretty curious; this thing should be able to run multimedia software (Ableton Live 8 / Reason 6.5.1, etc.) even faster than a regular desktop. And if the internal multimedia is any good, hmmm......
"Lack of standardisation is another issue; we don't live in a utopia where every operating system uses the same CLI. I, for one, have zero interest in learning a new CLI for every OS. It will take me quite some time to become as familiar with the intricacies of PowerShell for Windows as I am with Bash and its fellow tools."
This is actually partly true, there actually /is/ some (minor!) form of standardisation at work here. To be honest I'm a little disappointed that this wasn't noticed.
In Bash (or Ksh which is my favourite) or 'sh' (to save typing) you use ls to, well.. you know. However, modern Linux distributions also tend to honor the "dir" command.
In PowerShell ("PS") you tend to use 'dir' but it will also easily accept the usage of "ls".
Removing files? rm in sh obviously, PS also accepts this just like it allows "del" to be used.
Now; in the end these are all aliases, the syntax of PS is actually a /whole/ lot different than any CLI environment I'm familiar with.
But here is where the 2nd standardisation comes into play. When I'm at a loss on a *NIX commandline then I try to use the "man" command. This has helped me get up to speed on Solaris after not having used it for 6 years, it helped me get around HP/ux (iirc) a little.
Actually the command I used was "man man" because I needed to check up on how I could search for something, but you get the idea...
You may have guessed it by now but "man" is also an alias which is accepted by PS and it gives you the main help screen about the "Get-Help" command. PS will even happily accept "man man" which gets you into the same help screen.
SO yes; I concur that PowerShell is a /whole/ lot different than Bash on Linux or a Korn shell on Solaris. But I also think that by adding those *nix -like aliases Microsoft has actually honoured a form of standardisation by itself. Which IMO does them some credit.
Having a *nix background myself I have to say that I found PS relatively easy to find your way around in.
Don't scare me like this!
For a brief moment I honestly thought that Dell was planning to target the Dr. Who series in an attempt to advertise their products (without "advertising" obviously).
Re: History repeats itself
@AC: No, the loss came in the last financial bookyear of 2012 where they grossed in a netto loss of +/- 450 million while the same period last year got them approx. 4 billion profit.
"No. There is competition if you are talking consumer users, but the enterprise isn't interested in Linux desktops in any great number, and definitely not in Apple."
I'm not too sure about that. Quite often people stick to what they have decided on but when something drastic happens, such as this, there are plenty of companies which will revise their IT strategies. Only to learn that a lot of their information regarding competition is outdated and that the competitors also made advantages.
I'm not into Apple at all but was still impressed with this: A friend of mine who is fully Apple minded told me how his MacBook at some day didn't work as it should any longer. As such he re-installed the OS.
On Windows this means getting hold of the installation media (that is: if you were lucky enough to actually GET installation media and didn't forget to put it somewhere safe) and after you've done that reinstalling the lot. Whoops; where is that serial key again ?
On Mac (note: this is as it has been told to me): You connect your Macbook to the Internet, it contacts Apple main repository, /verifies the hardware as authentic, and you can go right ahead with the re-install process. Straight from the Internet.
How's that for userfriendlyness?
I don't know Apple, I don't keep up with all this. But if they managed to provide even more of these features which could also make Enterprise usage a lot easier then yes; I think Apple could be a player to fear.
Don't forget: even the whole MS Office 2010 suite runs perfectly on Apple as well which is in most cases the key issue when it comes to office use in the Enterprise.
History repeats itself
Back in the day when MS realized they missed the Internet boat all sails were set at getting up to speed, the keyword being internet. Even up to a point where they rendered the desktop totally unusable ('active desktop'; no icons could be placed on screen). The masses roared and it eventually got rectified.
Now MS seems to be under the impression that they missed the touch / tablet boat. Everything is cast aside to make sure the OS is touch friendly, even up to a point where its honestly rendered unusable for common desktop usage.
Add up the Metro lock in (read: MS tries to get all 3rd party software cut off and instead channelled through their marketplace) and one has to wonder how much of a desktop OS is really left ?
There is however one major difference between the two periods; back then we had no competition on the desktop, now we have some. MS has already grossed in a huge sales loss over the last quarter of 2012, one can only wonder how much more is about to follow (if any) ?
How long before Ballmer starts to wonder if there are still some people around who can program a start menu from scratch ?
Leaves you to wonder...
When reading all these stories and others (there's plenty more where this came from) one has to wonder... How long before the politicians finally realize that their attempts to keep their country safe are actually hurting it where it counts.
I simply heard too many stories around me (not Internet mind you) about people who will "never go to the US on vacation and be treated like a criminal".
Speaking of that movie theatre shooting; the guy was in legal possession of the gun, even had a license for it.
Reminds of another thread...
Very mixed feelings
I don't use the webapps all that often but in all honesty I do admire them, even though they're limited when compared to the desktop apps.
As said; mixed feelings. I admire the stuff they did and the enhancements they implemented. Most of all we shouldn't forget that this is basically a free service which I also admire.
But having tried the new Word (in both SeaMonkey /and/ "as intended" in MSIE 9) I have very mixed feelings. I don't like the ALL CAPS TABS. Its too "loud", it draws my attention due to the ALL CAPS while it shouldn't do that IMO because "Low Caps" automatically make you pay a little more attention (IMO) to what you're doing.
I have Word open, I want to add stuff so I select: "Invoegen" ('Insert', my Word is localized). The '3d' and gradient (semi-transparent) look is enough to achieve the 'tabbed look'.
I have Word webapp open and in general the same applies. My backstage 'File' is blue and gradient, and the 'Insert' tab looks clean and neat. "Insert".
This new setup is too screaming to my liking. HOME INSERT PAGE LAYOUT VIEW.
Give me a break here!
As said; I don't use the webapps that often but sporadically. If this gets through then I'm pretty certain that I won't use the webapps ever again. The interface is flat, the tabs are SCREAMING and maybe its just me but the flat colour interface is plain out annoying to look at.
Current webapps: The paste icon is a yellow clipboard with a paper in front, selected options are in yellow while my overall theme is in blue (my file backstage tab is blue gradient). Because of the different colour its easy to spot the current selections.
New webapps: /Everything/ is in blue. Apart from the paste icon which all of a sudden looks flat and lame. But options such as alignment, font selection, its all blueish. The same colour as the overall theme which makes it /very/ easy to overlook because it all looks the same.
As such; mixed feelings. I admire the effort but I dislike the current interface quite heavily. Its too noisy.
Now, this is a bit of a troll but also a somewhat seriously meant post.
For the first time since MS went onto the stock market (around 1986) did they manage to book a loss of approx. 492 million dollar. The year before they managed to get a profit of 5,9 billion dollars. Sure; it could be due to investments, it could be due to lower sale rates.
Or is it possible that many people are bailing out with the idea of Metro ahead?
"Since when did BIGBOOBS become offensive anyways?"
When people found out the string wasn't setup by a female person, so they were left disappointed.
People lose faith
I think that covers it.
Personally I like working with both Win7 & Office 2010. I also think that adding Server 2003 into the mixture gives a pretty solid environment.
But would I have any shares of Microsoft I too would have sold them as soon as possible after the Office previews came about.
And before anyone goes off with: investments... (which by itself is a very reasonable point). Don't forget that a loss means it outweighs any foreseen investments + incoming profits (which is also a variable factor by itself). Unfair context but you could also reason that MS didn't get as much income as they anticipated.
My point being: if this were due to investments it would still indicate very poor leadership because you'd normally anticipate for that.
The more this story develops the more to I start to think we may see very drastic developments in the upcoming future.
Something I'm personally not looking forward to but heck... Their loss.
Actually what you're describing is only partly true.
Yes; you could easily create a midlet buy merely compiling your ME project in, say, NetBeans (personal favourite of mine). But with all the phones I worked with you could /not/ simply distribute it onto the phone like you could, for example, a war file onto a J2EE (Glassfish) server. Even if your phone would be recognized as USB storage.
Instead you had to make it available online, use the phone's browser to get to the program location (which always took /2/ files; one description explaining the whole online setup (you always needed to set this up /manually/) and the actual midlet itself) and only then would the midlet actually install.
I can't comment on Android because I don't use it, but its by /far/ as easy as some other development systems do this.
8 already ?
Now, maybe I'm being old fashioned here but iirc 7 was released only last year (2011). Right now the latest update is at 5 (SE 7u5) whereas its predecessor sits at SE6u33.
Isn't it a tad quick to move the whole thing to 8 already ?
"We want cheap tablets"
Even if it takes us thousands of pounds to find them; they can't hide and we'll find them!
Sad thing is that all fun put aside this is often the way it goes.. When the government gets something "cheap" its often a good idea to look at the investment (time, effort, money) it took to get there.
Facebook is all about the money...
I don't do social media /at all/ for certain reasons but figured I might just as well get me a company account to put my business there and use it to share some common info every now and then.
Well; the difference between facebook and, say, twitter is IMO shocking. Facebook only allows me to try and get others to subscribe (or like or whatever) my facebook page and that's roughly it. You can't use the common facebook features ("get a personal facebook account"), you can't even follow 'fellow' companies or people. All you can do is buy some "adcoins" (or whatever they're called) and advertise.
Twitter otoh... I also don't really like Twitter that much but in comparison its a /truly/ social network. With my company account I can follow other companies and people, I can comment on other "tweets" and I can even easily send my own tweets out (like announcing work on the website for example). And by simply "going with the flow" you suddenly manage to get quite a few followers. Better yet; you also see visits on your website rise a bit.
Now; I don't expect to get better sales or anything using social media but I do think its a nice way to interact with customers who also have a social media account. And getting your company name a little better known is always a pro of course. "Dangerous" (when many people don't like what you're saying they're basically not liking your company name) but that's the way the game is (and should!) be played. IMVHO.
Twitter allows this, Facebook doesn't. Guess which one is my favourite ?
MS does everything backwards these days...
At least that's the way it looks to me.
Take the Windows Phone. I'm sure many people picked it up with the vast support with Windows in mind. I'm referring to XP for example which has been supported for 13 years, Windows 7 which will easily last another 6 years (the Professional version at least) and Office is also amongst those regions. One of the reasons I'm not too bothered with this Metro doctrine yet.
Windows Phone otoh... There was a first line of devices; and MS insisted on specific hardware specs to meet the demands of the OS. That was reason enough for me to assume continuity even despite the short lifespan of Windows Mobile 6.5. But alas; roughly 1.5 year later the device is already marked / rumoured to be EOL'd because WP8 devices won't be compatible with WP7 devices (logical) but if any software functions will make it back to 7.5 also remains to be seen. IMO that's doing things backwards; including not informing the customers on what is really going on and keeping a rather short lifetime.
Same applies IMO to Win8 & Office 2012. People tried hard to make Office 2010 user friendly (personally I like the Ribbon there but can well imagine that others don't) but with the latest Office a lot of (IMO) key features seem to be getting reversed again. I like my 'Open recent' backstage view section from where I can also immediately go to the "open file" section if I want to. The new "backstage" metro view otoh? Doable, but not as easy it seems.
I don't like the way things are headed but at least I am very happy to have my current office environment supported for many years to come.
Others stated their opinion (matching mine) already but alas...
There is one thing which hasn't been mentioned: sometimes "better" isn't always actually better. Sounds crazy?
Its quite simple: there are things which I can do much faster in MS Office 2010 than I can do in Open or Libre Office. But it isn't always better. For example; tables in Word 2010 cannot be setup so that they keep their formatting. Example: I setup a table, I format several cells with a financial view but when I remove the tables contents then the view is also gone. Writer otoh. can keep its format intact.
Although this makes Writer better for this particular job I can get quicker results with Word. For example because of its "auto text" or "quick parts" feature (insert whole (dynamic) blocks in your Word document).
So IMO there isn't a tight "better" or "worse" line here. Both suites have their advantages and disadvantages.
But just because OpenOffice is free doesn't automatically make it the best tool for the job. In the above example: what I save in purchasing costs can eventually "haunt" me in working hours; time costs money too if you're running a business.
Microsoft turned things around... again.
Instead of making the (not too bad) Office webapps look more mature they chose to do things the other way around: make the desktop apps look more like the webapps. But by doing so I think they negatively impacted Office functionality big time.
Behind the facts anyway...
I'd be more interested if MS still dominated the browser market, but they're not.
So what's this really all about? Freedom on the market or filling one's wallet?
I know; let's have a European poll on the matter with its citizens. Oh, darn; I forgot: the EU never asks the citizens how they feel about things, even if it means they'll have to retire a few years later.
"you know, metro is not aimed at Buisiness right?"
Then why do they also put in the upcoming Server 2012 ?
I'd believe that comment if it were only on El Reg but even on the MS fora themselves do you get /tons/ of negative comments. Even from people who are recognized as long term MVP's.
As Elvis once said: 50.000.000 'fans' can't be wrong!
Sorry El Reg but you're losing your touch IMO. For those of us who want to see a little more about this new Office then they can go to the official Office preview page which doesn't show extremely much but the introduction movie does give you a good impression of how its going to look and feel.
Being an MS Office 2010 power user (and actually enjoying the environment) I can only say that after looking at that intro movie I'm convinced its going to suck. BIG time.
Let me elaborate...
As we all feared the whole kaboodle sits in Metro. If you look at the movie you'll notice around 0:28 a screenshot of OneNote. This is a program I actually use very often, almost on a daily basis. Honestly: you only get to see the notebook sections and only get to see the notebooks themselves when you move your mouse to make it scroll in ?
Right now I have the notebooks sitting in the menu on my left, and the notebook sections on top. I get to chose what I want to see. More importantly: I can switch from my main notebook to my online (SkyDrive) notebook with 1 (one) click of the mouse. This is important to me because my online notebook holds info which is shared between all of my computers (main PC, laptop & WinPhone). Why would I want a sliding panel which only delays my movements?
And really; a round 'dial' pop-up menu ?
Outlook... (0:34); When I sit in Outlook right now I continue to have access to other information, even Messenger and for example, I dunno... A clock maybe? What good is a frickin' appointment calendar without so much as an actual clock visible on your screen ?
What's that? I should get a watch? But like; isn't this Office suppose to make things /easier/ (see the intro movie) ? So how come it doesn't do stuff which the old "inferior" Office does RIGHT NOW ?
Nice to have a 2D full screen Excel window but you know... Very often I add charts to some of my Word documents, and because Excel is quite a good program for that (IMO of course) I have it setup that I can start Excel with the click of a mouse button (sits in Words' quickstart panel).
Guess what ?
Win-RightMouse and it immediately moves to the right of my screen. When I'm in Word I can simply hit Win-LeftMouse and all of a sudden I have 2 programs on 1 1024x768 screen allowing me to work on my document as well as my charts.
I can't do that within Metro because my screen resolution isn't high enough. But why would I want a higher resolution when all I'm doing with this PC is using it for administrative purposes?
But here's the thing...
If you go to that link I showed above you'll notice that as soon as it comes to business use MS is no longer touting their new "Wonderful" Office. No; then all of a sudden its Office 365 (ProPlus, Small Business Premium & Enterprise).
With all due respect but those applications work quite nicely but are in /no way/ comparable to the stuff I can do with the common desktop apps. I tried 365 a month myself, I can see its potential but if you need a little more out of Office then get the desktop apps. For example: VBA scripting? Non existent in 365 because the webapps don't go that far.
I think MS clearly shows in the preview movie itself where this is headed: look at 0:24 in the movie ;-)
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