1845 posts • joined 19 Dec 2010
We should all be calling it TIFKAM from now (as seen earlier in this thread, and I don't refer to my post btw).
"The Interface Formerly Known As Metro".
"Dont forget secure boot also - which further hinders the installation of other OSes as OS-X and Linux."
There, fixed that for you ;-)
Thanks for your extensive response, appreciate the time you took.
So, lets see...
Faster booting - This is a bit of a hack because in fact the OS uses a section of the disk where it hibernates the OS then simply re-activates that part. Quite frankly; I can do the exact same thing on Windows 7 is I tell it not to shut down but to hibernate. The 'runs faster' is also disputable considering how much options and eye candy they stripped from parts such as the desktop. If I minimize the visual effects (turn off aero, animations, translucency) I can get my Win7 to run a whole lot faster as well.
chkdsk repairs on a soft-raid volume while its mounted - I can do that with Win7 as well. Unless of course its the system volume, but quite frankly I don't see being able to perform repairs on a mounted and used system volume as an enhancement. I consider this a major risk factor instead.
Multi monitor - Can't comment there since I only use one. What I can say is that it could be expected considering that they've limited the features severely in other areas. Think about running two "TIFKAM" (The Interface Formerly Known As Metro) side by side. Can't be done on lower resolutions, even if those are still pretty common for Office use.
Cloud services - What does "integrates neatly" exactly mean? If I want to I can easily setup my Win7 Explorer so that it can directly access stuff as SkyDrive, S3 buckets and dropbox if need be (mostly using Webdav btw). Within my Office environment I already have the option to directly store documents on SkyDrive.
Performance management tool - Does it really? All I saw are more bells and whistles. And if you're by any chance referring to the "Windows Assesment and Deployment Kit ('ADK') then yes; this is new in Win8. But don't be fooled; A lot of these tools come from the Windows Performance Analysis developer center which, you guessed it, is also fully available on Windows 7.
Better yet, and this is why I described this as mere "bells and whistles" earlier: hopefully you do realize that most of these "new features" have been long available with the PowerShell environment? (which is IMVHO the number one admin kit for Windows these days). For an example check out this quick TechNet post on PowerShell system performance analysis.
Windows 8 added more bells and whistles to make it easier to access, but its nothing really new.
File history tool - Uhm, that has been around since Vista. Check properties, then "Previous versions" tab. Better yet: the Win8 "feature" requires an external drive or network share to work (its disabled by default) whereas this feature in Vista & Win7 is on by default and doesn't require anything extra. Talk about taking a step back in user friendlyness!
Profile management - Enter Windows 7 professional. Its not possible on the home editions, but the pro has no problems with this. In fact; I'm using Win7 using a regular (non-admin) account myself. This can be further enhanced by using the policy editors. Once again; long existing features which have only been made easier to access.
Software based on authentication keys - Idem on Windows 7. Takes external tools to setup though but its doable. Especially considering that Win7 already provides native support for stuff such as RFID security cards.
IPv6 handling - Ah yes, it favours IPv6 over IPv4. True, read many stories about this.
Better graphics - Its still the drivers doing all the work.
Better performance - So far I'm not a believer. Also see an earlier point about performance aspects in Win7.
File Manager & hidden files - Yes, I can see the advantage there as well.
Security Essentials - Once again agreed; also a very good enhancement. Many virus scanners drove me completely nuts so I eventually started using these as well, works like a charm.
So summing up the main enhancements which I can see are better IPv6 support, easier option to check for hidden files in the Explorer and the inclusion of security essentials.
Needless to say but for me its by far enough to consider an upgrade. Which is basically what led to my earlier comment. I'm under impressed because many features are already available but seem to have been made easier accessible.
I can't consider "easier accessible" to be a new and exciting feature tbh.
"Interesting. We've seen EXACTLY THE SAME arguments for WP7, and it still is a major failure and a pita to use for anything too complicated for a featurephone."
I don't quite agree there. Yes, WP7 certainly has its limitations, but also plenty of stronger points as well. For example I can easily use it to logon my Window servers through use of the ConnectME application. Full RDP support, even allows for file transfers.
Using SSH to logon to my Linux servers? No problem either; using the 'The SSH client application. Works pretty fast, good keyboard and both applications can keep running under the lock screen.
I'd say those are specific issues which I don't see people do too easily on a feature phone.
And to be honest.. Although I don't quite like the commercials the most you hear about the WP7 setup is that it "smokes" the competition when using social media.
No need to wait.
I don't even need to download it to give any first impressions. Because my first impression is simple: "Not worth the download".
Fooled me once with the developer preview which was IMO very underwhelming. Fooled me twice with the customer preview which IMO was evenly matched when it comes to the underwhelming part. I won't be fooled again, thanks.
My main gripe with Win8 is: take away the new "Windows 8 user interface" which was formerly known as Metro and what do you have left ? I don't see anything remotely interesting to bother with Windows 8 since a lot of the enhancements seem to be mere eyecandy or icing on the cake.
Quite frankly I can miss the inflexibility and bothersome crap which is Metro like a toothache. Why would I bother with this?
Old arts revisited?
When looking at that picture I can't help think back of the C64 ages (which I lived). Back then there were already plenty of .gifs circling around ("World of GIF" anyone? A CD which you could buy with hundreds of GIF pictures?). A very common trade at that time was to try and take a PC picture and set it up so that it would be usable on the C64. This usually involved quite a bit of work (before it was automated) mainly because of the heavy resolution differences.
I know this is a different issue but when looking at the picture in the article I can't help wonder how much of a difference there really is ?
Controlling colours through the size of the particles sounds a lot like 'the old days'. Then it obviously wasn't so much controlling colour but overall image impressions. Using different sized sprites (to name one example) to achieve the best possible appearance of a colour blend for example.
As long as you paid your fee's to $anti_virus_vendor_we_love_and_respect all will be safe with your Windows.
How dare you mock $religion. Your comment is highly insulting for $religion_practisers because you're generalizing thus causing them heavy damage.
We'll sue and won't settle for less than $10000,- unless you're living in Europe; then it will have to be E 15000,- due to your extra "stigmatisation" being involved.
Sure; jokingly written. The worst part? This sort of BS is actually happening right now.
Whoops, did I just insinuate $religion to be bs? Uh oh....
"You can't see Wikileaks because they're bad news. Why they're bad news? Because we said so".
This is basically summing up the actions at hand and I don't think its that hard to find out what's wrong about all this.
I don't care if you're in favour or against Wikileaks. At the very least allow people to make up their own mind about it, this is nothing more than oppression.
No offense but...
I'll take pictures of topless women over topless men, thanks.
(yes, I'm a male; how did you know?) ;-)
"The "unrelated answer" method is very good from a security perspective, but does make it hard to remember which answer was used for a given question."
Keep in mind that 'unrelated to the question' doesn't mean unrelated to the person who answers it.
For example; "the name of your mother". Someone could easily answer with a name who has always been a mother-like figure to him/her. Within the context of the question totally unrelated, same for outsiders. But I bet the user won't have any problem remembering the answer.
"If you think about it, if you could change your security question what do you think the first thing a hacker would do when he gained access to your account?"
Change the password.
He /was/ charged, but those charged had been dropped then re-instated.
The only thing odd here is that Sweden goes through all this trouble for a felony (that's what it is over there) which at worst case would cost Assange a $1000,- fine.
When it comes to the elections (whether in the US or in my home country) then there's nothing /but/ propaganda these days.
Even up to a point (here's where it gets bothersome:) where one looking at the past (unfortunately not too many people do this) you can very often see the /almost/ /exact/ /same/ propaganda being put to use.
To translate (within the context of my home country; every 4 years we get elections): $party1 promising stuff and after they don't make it they now even easily vote in favour of the stuff they claimed to be against "no matter what".
Now 8 years later; they try the exact same approach. "We're against $topic" even though the records show that during the last period they have only supported said subject.
Issue being: said subject doesn't live too well with the people. SO when the elections are upcoming this party does nothing but propagating that they are against said issue, hoping to get votes. Problem being that as soon as everything is over their opinion changes over time.
Quite odd indeed that not only their opinion but the matter as a whole also suddenly easily takes its time well within the ruling period. (put differently: $elected, 2.5 years into said period voting in favour of $we_dont_like_it and 1.5 years after that suddenly campaigning with "we're against $subject").
That is your average political party for you. Unfortunately most people don't have the will do dive unto all this and when someone else does easily wave it away with "propaganda".
Left or right doesn't matter; this is what is happening on a global scale these days.
"Young adults" aka...
"People easily blinded by propaganda".
And in this case stupid people at that.
I'm not just saying that as an insult, I'm saying that because I truly mean it: they are idiots.
IF you really want to know about something. Whether its an (electronic) consumer device, a webshop, a shop within your town right down to a political party to vote on then there's only 1 smart thing to do....
First you obviously find out about $subject (see above) to find out if your goal is really what you want. But here's the deal: Once you have decided that you aimed for what you really want its time to realize that so far all you've been reading / viewing has most likely been in /favour/ of $subject.
To get the whole story it is now time to look into the other side of the opinion pool; the nay sayers. Sure; you'll get some hate, you'll get some bashing, but if you try good enough you'll also get some genuine stories as to why people don't like $subject.
Then, and only then will you be capable of making up your own mind on this.
I kid you not. I'll go on the record; I own a WinPhone, like it too. I went over several Android fora before I got one. Not to decide on which one was "better". Hardly. To learn what people using the other choice considered to be lacking on my choice. That left me prepared. Yes; it has its limits. But I knew them even before I picked one up.
This is no different.
When it comes to our governments (no matter what country you're from) you'll always get 1 sided stories. Namely from the government. Sure; there are different parties, but they all have 1 major thing in common: their paychecks come from 1 shared source. Paid from taxes which you and I have to cough up.
Bottom line: you can't expect stories coming from these parties not to be coloured, no matter /where/ they stand with their political ideals. Just like companies will always have a double agenda (keeping the customers happy /but/ also ensuring a steady cashflow) the same can be said about the governments.
As to Wikileaks... Right or wrong, good or evil; not my call to make.
Fact of the matter is that they only show what the governments have been doing so far and are unwilling to share with us. Governments do that (hiding stuff) even when we are entitled to it.
Small (US specific) issue... Attack on the Pentagon (9/11). Freedom of information yet the government refuses to release the (massively available; 84 cameras, go figure!) video footage as to what has transpired there. After some people started prosecuting for /years/ the US government has finally released a 5 frame footage showing absolutely nothing. There's a display of "freedom" right there.
Bottom line (this is turning into an essay, I know): Governments lie to us. Its not a theory its a given. In the US its even allowed by law (police officers can provide you with falsified info to get you to confess). So who's controlling or checking the government ?
In most cases the government is controlled through information channels controlled by that very same government.
You may not like other people "attacking" your government. I can respect that. But if your government is as good and solid as they are they should be able to withstand such "attacks" quite easily.
But if you really think that there is a desperate need to silence the other voices or other opinions - no matter the motivation - then you're basically agreeing that something is seriously wrong with your own opinion.
No matter how cliched this is: if you have an opinion and don't allow anyone to challenge it then your opinion is - by definition - bordering plain out oppression.
Enter the stages of the fanboys, the fanatics, the nutjobs.
Will they ever realize...
Their so called "Damage control process" (IMO that's what we're seeing here) only makes them look even more stupider.
Now, if this were the first time it happened I can live with it. But we've seen this several times already...
"Windows 8 will be easily usable with mouse and keyboard" (without showing), "Windows 8 is optimized for touch usage", "Windows 8 has always been best used with touch enabled interfaces" (not said directly but very well hinted at).
"Windows 8 has a much better Metro start screen", "Windows 8 uses Metro because the start screen was broken", "Windows 8 uses the Metro start screen because research indicated major issues with the start menu", "The start menu will never be used again".
"Developers will be better of with Windows 8 because of their choices", "Visual Studio 2012's interface won't use any distracting colours", "VS 2012 will bring back some of its colour", "VS 2012 Express will only be usable for Metro development", "VS 2010 will have a NEW MENU STRUCTURE MAKING IT MUCH EASIER ON YOUR EYES TO SEE. THIS MAKES IT BLEND IN WITH OUR REVOLUTIONARY METRO INTERFACE".
"Office 2013 will be a more mature Office", "Office 2013 won't make the webapps look and feel more like desktop apps, it will make the desktop apps look like webapps", "Office 2013 will be a Metro application", "Office 2013 will have a much better 2D interface", "Office 2013 will have a MUCH NICER AND EASIER ON THE EYES MENU SECTION, WE HAVE EXTENDED THE RIBBON WITH EASIER TO READ RIBBON SECTION NAMES".
Of course the thousands (literally) of protests which can be read on the official MS blog pages are obviously from people who "simply don't recognize a revolutionary new environment" yet. OR, in the case of Visual Studio 2012, these are developers who are simply glad (and say so!) that the damage to the interface "has been 'relatively' minor and corrected". And state that MS has started "coming back on their first ideas" ("One idea down, several to go...").
How absurd is it that your own users are actually going besides themselves to stop you from releasing something which anyone in their right mind (any real /developer/ that is) would immediately cast aside as being unusable ?
But that is the "Windows 8 soap" which is involving around Microsoft.
I'm just glad that I stepped onto the Win7 bandwagon "on time" and have everything I need (Win7 pro, Office 2010 pro, VS 2010 Express versions (VB, C# & Web) and some other desktop stuff) which will easily last me until 2018.
By that time I hope MS has come back to their senses somewhat. As they did with Win7 vs. Vista.
IF NOT.... Then its easy; I'll pick up my current desktop environment and virtualize it. Then I'll simply use both Win7 & WinXP virtually and directly from within Linux. I've done this before, I can go there again if need be.
Unsupported and unmaintained software by then, but within a virtual environment while making sure I can roll back to a clean snapshot anytime I need to... I don't think I'll be taking much risks.
It was the countdown...
... 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 0
No wonder it went bad.
Finally it's official!
From the article (and other sources obviously) I guess its now safe to conclude what most others have concluded a long time ago, namely:
"The Windows 8 user interface isn't very usable on desktops."
I wonder if MS realizes what impact this could have. Because one should never underestimate the naive end users (with all due respect of course)... When it was still called Metro MS made a rather clear separation; there were metro apps, the metro interface ('start screen') and there was desktop related stuff.
In short: "The Metro interface sucks!" may leave people wondering "ok, that part of Win8 could be bad. I'll just ignore it".
But how does one react to: "The Windows 8 user interface sucks" ?
The longer the Windows 8 soap continues the deeper MS seems to be making the hole. At least that is my impression of the whole thing so far.
They'll do a mixup story line again. So several doctor characters from different time lines coming together. They've done that in a xmas special but the joined moments were a bit brief (IIRC). I'd like to see some famous (and favourite) characters join forces in one whole episode.
I only read stories about that and can whole heartedly agree that they did an awesome job back then. Not merely the Daleks but other sound designs too (obvious example the sound of the Tardis).
I'm fascinated with sound / sound synthesis / sound design and the developments in this segment have gone so fast that in my experience many people find it hard to imagine that such a design could have been so much work.
Would I want a "Dalek effect" nowadays I'd pull up Reason ('sound software'; because of its extraordinary routing capabilities), pick up my mic signal, add a vocoder, perhaps a 'Scream' device for distortion and optionally some filters.
Back in the days there /was/ no such thing as Reason :-)
I think the only thing you could "accuse" him of is the repetition factor, that got a bit predictable. I'm referring to building up the season and in the finale end with a whole "re-run" but then seen from a different angle / aspect.
But apart from that I don't quite agree with you. It had episodes following the red line of the "season story", it had individual episodes and some were silly, some were sort of funny and some were even a bit scary (sort off). I could imagine some kids not really fancying the Silence. Speaking of which; that was an interesting twist; see & forget.
Personal preference here of course but I'll take the Silence over the weeping angels.
"It also has wheels so I guess it's also a Ferrari because they have wheels too."
No, the wheels only make it a /portable/ PowerPC. To be a Ferrari within this context it would need to have been painted red ;-)
It's simple: the agencies are stupid
The income of an artist doesn't dwindle by people copying their music. In fact; in most of the cases it actually does the exact opposite. Something people who knew what they're talking about have been saying for years now.
A very recent (and IMO awesome) example of that would be South Korean singer / rapper PSY's latest achievement: Gangnam Style (YouTube link). Its Korean dance music combined with Korean rap (I suppose), crazy (funny!) dance moves and IMVHO its an /extremely/ catchy tune.
Yes ladies and gentlemen; you can listen and watch it as many times as you like because PSY himself made sure to share this as much as he can on YouTube.
The original video (as linked above), a feat with the "Making off" (which IMO is pretty awesome in itself), several other (not always related) video's and music and here's the catch...
Already he shared /several/ movies where he's performing this song live on stage. Also totally free for us all to enjoy (and maybe I'm biased but it looks awesome to me!).
NOW stop there for a moment and ask yourself this: Did the audience witnessing those live performances got there for free? I don't think so! How many times have we seen "professional" artists starting to cause a riot because people tried to film their performance(s) and share it?
PSY otoh puts it all online himself for us to enjoy. And from what I understand (I could be mistaken here:) he currently tries on as many gigs as he can.
Result? Well, we (gf & me) reached a point where we are actually keeping track if PSY will ever consider a European tour, because if he does then we want to be there!
Gee, I wonder where the real money is made here....
Nah, it'll work. IF we're willing to pay enough money for it.
Coming up next: Microsoft study reveals Internet users to be "cheapskates".
And in addition to what Epobirs just said: the only way to get software onto the whole Metro setup is through the MS Marketplace (that is: I'm not aware of any other approaches). And something tells me that MS wouldn't agree easily in allowing OpenOffice to publish their software on their marketplace.
This is /exactly/ why I'm heavily opposed to the whole idea of a Marketplace in the first place. Especially for a desktop operating system.
This isn't about security or safety anymore; this is allowing a company to tell you what you can and cannot use on your own computer. And they expect to get paid for it too.
What I do hope for...
Is a new twist when it comes to the storyline. So; putting the focus a little more back on the doctor and not so much the companion(s). It was fun, and I liked the first 'Amy Pond season' which all evolved around a weird crack in time in her bedroom.
Also I hope they will now let go of the idea to build up and re-run the whole thing in the finale of the season. It was surprising with the season mentioned above. It was nicely executed in the last season with the Silence but much less surprising because you already somewhat expected it to happen... Personally straight from the first episode when we had "2" doctors.
So I really hope they'll do something new on that part. No complaints, just a suggestion.
And I surely hope they'll let Matt Smith do what he does.. During the first episodes I kept the feeling he was trying to mimic Tennant (who I considered a very good doctor). But as the episodes progressed I have to admit he really managed to put his own 'touch' on the character.
SO; is it xmas already? ;-)
And here we go again...
"Programmers can get started with Apps for Office by signing up for an Office 365 developer pass."
When I want to develop stuff for my Office environment all I have to do is either open up whatever program supports VBA and start coding. Or if I want to build external stuff I simply pick up VS Express and get to it.
All for free.
What El Reg doesn't mention is that "signing up for an Office 365 developer pass" is only free during the Office 2013 preview. You can see as much here (MSDN Office page).
So in the near future you'll need to cough up some big bucks if you wish to develop stuff for the new Office.
Gee; that reminds me of my Windows Phone. If I want to use C# and such to create programs for it then I need to cough up approx. $100,-/year. Even if I have no desire - what so ever - to publish stuff, but only wish to have fun with my own phone. The tools are free, but accessing my /own/ phone isn't.
With these developments I seriously wonder how long the VBA environment will remain a free feature. I wouldn't be surprised /one bit/ if that policy would change as well in the future, in an attempt to gross in even more money. So then you'd have a trimmed down Office and a (much more expensive) "Pro Office" which could feature many things you may not need, but need to purchase anyway if all you want to do is being able to program VBA macros.
You speak of sandboxing as if it is a good thing. It can be; but sandboxing Office apps. takes away a major functionality aspect.
For example; in my Office 2010 I have a lot of address information stored in Outlook. Whenever I need to write a letter I use a Word template (VBA) which then accesses the address list in Outlook to retrieve the contact information I need.
And there's plenty more where that came from. Searching OneNote information and being able to setup stats in an Excel sheet. Going through all the Word documents marked as "bill" on my system from Excel, when identified it grabs information from the document such as payments and tax and such. All data is then put into a graph which helps me keep an (easy) overview of company revenue.
Office was build for interaction... If they need to sandbox the whole thing online then my conclusion would be that MS Office wasn't build for this.
My only recommendation wrt 365...
Was when a business (client) of mine was looking for a relative easy external Exchange server for use with their internal Outlook clients and external phone clients. In those cases I think Exchange-online (part of 365) can be helpful.
But all the rest of 365 is something I'm not getting my business involved with. IMO too much risk of extensive support costs overlay (who do you think the customer will contact with problems, hm?).
When it comes to Office then I always recommend the desktop (2010) over the cloud.
That's not tiny, that's plenty of room to play with /if/ you know how to write the software for it.
Just because modern OS's continue to use as much memory as they can doesn't automatically make it a demand.
Just a test, nothing to see...
Its simply Google which tries to come up with new ways to delete all the wifi data these cars are slurping.
The era of commercialisation hath begun...
Now, don't get me wrong... Microsoft is a company like any other and the main thing which drives a company is making a profit. Nothing wrong with that.
But aren't they overdoing things a little as of late?
I mean; Office 2010. I fire up Word, and I want to start a new document, say a contract. I simply select new document, go to the templates section and from there I can search a whole collection of templates straight from office.com. That's simply good service which IMO adds to the overall value of the product. People & companies provide templates for others to use them, available straight from within Office.
But these days it seems to me as if MS wants to get rid of all that and instead introduce stores where we should buy into all this.. Of course while they sit at the middle of the revenue; both developers and users need to pay Microsoft.
I hope we do realize the risk here... Its not unimaginable that Microsoft will simply provide less software and features themselves, and let the gaps be filled in by (paying!) 3rd parties. So effectively getting customers to pay more while they actually get less.
This is why I follow El Reg
#1 Before my local (Holland) news media picks up online.
#2 Really putting your alias into glory: cynical and critical where it counts.
No; even if all of that turns out to be untrue ('a billion miles after the intended place'?) (as I read it) it still doesn't matter to me because in all honesty your site description leaves little to guess. I /know/ before even reading the article you'll question whatever comes before you. Most often you're right, sometimes you're not, and sometimes you're tricked.
No one can accuse you guys for never trying. Lets not forget: "Sometimes you're not" can also easily occur due to the source changing its story (seriously meant, it honestly it happens sometimes BUT.. in "El Reg style": How is THAT for a fanboy comment?!).
Making it harder to activate Windows 8 copies, I think that's a development anyone can root for!
Oh; only illegal copies. nvm ;)
Re: Epic fail
"Not checking for trademarks and coming to some agreement with others holding that trademark before naming the fscking software is just... unprofessional."
Now don't be mean here. MS had promised this company a /free/ copy of WIn8, its not their fault that this company doesn't want anything to do with it.
The official name for the start screen has always been "Live Tiles" or 'tiles'. So no problems there.
You actually thought there's logic and sanity behind advertising ?
Too much assumptions IMO
First we had a defaced website with some name about it. Then someone boasting about it. Only problem; the boasting which I have seen so far is someone mentioning that the site was hacked, anyone could have done that IMO.
Then its being told that they demanded the data back and he refused. The snippets otoh show an English convo where this alleged hacker had to use translation tools because he apparently didn't understand English too well. I'm pretty sure you can get someone like that to admit to anything you want.
But this makes me wonder; did the Anonymous types perhaps also have access to the server, did they actually got to see the logs and with that information managed to identify the intruders IP address?
Or did this whole story simply go like so many others: they assumed this guy to be guilty simply because he talked about the hack on social media? So far the shared material doesn't exactly fill any gaps and doesn't even proof anything beyond reasonable doubt.
For all we know it could have been Anonymous itself behind it which then used this situation to make themselves look good.
Now; I'm not denying that this is a useful tool and I fully agree with Stuart up there (+1 on its way after this).
But isn't the timing a bit odd?
I mean.. We could have used this years ago. But the upcoming future (as seen by MS) gives us development tools totally focussed on Metro, a Metro Office and (this is important): the fact that Metro by itself is basically a locked down environment. I think the latter is a very positive Metro achievement, but all the collateral (software only through marketplace) isn't.
So I don't quite get it. Metro was locked down from the getgo, its by design.
Could it be that MS is feeling the heat after all and are now releasing tools to secure the desktop app. best as possible?
Hack /and/ a hoax
First; the whole Outlook.com stuff is a hack, and a very crude one at that. I'm not saying this due to the interface or such; that's fine enough to work with. If you work with Outlook 2010 on a daily basis (which I do) then its even somewhat bearable. No, if you select any other option besides mail; like the used-to-be integrated SkyDrive or Calendar function you're taken right back to the old Hotmail interface. In my opinion that's a too poor of a design to be even remotely funny.
At the very least give us users a properly integrated environment to work with instead of something which feels like several individual parts roughly glued together by a couple of huge buttons.
But I also call this a hoax... "One million people signed up" ? No, that would be 999.999 because I never signed up for this; I was simply thrown into Outlook.com the moment when I checked my Hotmail inbox. I tried outlook.com but gave up and moved back to Hotmail. Why not if you're constantly thrown back into Hotmail anyway the very moment when you want to check your SkyDrive or calendar using something else besides your phone (I'm on WP7) ?
This is IMO another classic example as to why MS needs to get their act together and stop ruining good working stuff "because". Haven't those idiots (personal opinion) never stopped to think that while outlook.com may attract some new users it could also mean others might walk off when you enforce this upon them?
But my biggest gripe with all this, the one which IMVHO overshadows all: When oh when will Microsoft FINALLY realize that the only time they should launch a new product is WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY READY ?!!1
(1 was typed for a more dramatic effect ;-))
Seriously; they had a not too bad (IMO) * integrated * environment from which you could access your mail, your Messenger contacts, Calendar /and/ SkyDrive all from the same web interface. And they broke it up for reasons I haven't managed to grasp yet.
Simple; "Windows 2".
Because then some marketing guy will finally realize that they need more 'tech' into Windows, some decisions will most likely have been reversed and 9 could be the "new" Windows environment "everybody will recognize again".
And what better way to promote your new "tech OS" 'Windows 10' as "Windows 2" and show the world how smart (and 'tech') you are ? ;-)
"I don't think that any OS has ever created such an unenthusiastic release. The only people that seem truly interested are [¨fill in your own word here , I can't think of anything suitable]."
Seem or seemed? I was pretty interested in the OS too, was especially wondering about the new WinRM (Remote management) service which would introduce PowerShell 3.0. I played with it and the MMC environment (was also curious about new MMC modules).
Unfortunately the emphasis lies on 'was'. The underlying Windows management structure (which IMO is pretty decent and even impressive here and there) shows very few exciting new features or developments.
There's not even enough for me to remotely consider grabbing the upcoming version of Win8 through my TechNet subscription.
"Assuming that nothing has changed, this isn't a big story."
I disagree. If nothing has changed then it is kinda big because it would mean that MS didn't remove Aero support, didn't remove gadget support and basically held onto a lot of other eye candy in the desktop. While they seemed pretty sure it all had to go (probably fearing the risk it would make the desktop app. too appealing, I dunno).
So if they reversed that decision then that is big IMO. Because it means they actually listened (for the first time) to their potential customers who complained that functionality was taken more and more blows for the worst.
And Windows Virtual PC?
I think MS isn't telling us the whole story here. Either that or I misread.
When you check out the Med-V Overview (TechNet link) you'll notice that it is a separate piece of software which allows you... Well, we read the articles here.
But what about Virtual PC? Or put better: "Windows XP Mode"? These are totally different products, and Microsoft uses this as a sales argument because /only/ owners of Windows 7 Professional and higher are entitled to pick up "Windows XP mode" and use it on their Windows 7 environment. That would make me assume that "sold together with Win7 pro (or higher), thus one could expect support until Win7 pro (or higher) are themselves no longer supported".
You can't even send feedback!
Sorry for 2 posts after one other, but look at what I got after switching back:
After moving back to Hotmail I was asked (pleaded?) to send feedback. Ok, we'll do that...
Pick a product:
"Calendar, Groups, Hotmail, Live@Edu, Messenger, Profile, SkyDrive" and the rest is all "Windows Live *". (Windows Live Account, Windows Live Events, etc.). I figured "Windows Live Mail" but all the welcome messages and welcome email calls the new interface "Outlook". ("Welcome to Outlook", "Get an Outlook email address", "Tell us what you think of Outlook").
So why can't I comment on a product called "Outlook" ?
Talk about a hack....
Very under impressive
I use Hotmail and such quite a lot, just like I use Outlook 2010, so you'd assume I should like this.
Well, I think the whole setup is a very crude hack which is also quite annoying to work with.
I gave the new Outlook a try and well.. So far, so good. I have my folders, I have my quickviews. Not too nasty. And then I tried to access my SkyDrive which is also important to me. The switch screen looks awfull; a big black bar (1/5th of the screen at least) appears with 4 huge icons in it. Why couldn't those icons sit in my titlebar?
So I click SkyDrve and what do you know... All of a sudden you're taken back into the /old/ Hotmail interface and your SkyDrive folders appear.
That's not a new implementation of e-mail, that's a very crude and incomplete /hack/. IMO a stupid one at that.
I switched back right back to Hotmail. After all; I'll be moving back anyway whenever I access my SkyDrive or Calendar. They also "forgot" to port the online Messenger.
They've done a "decent" job is more like it IMO. I mean; how come that 3rd party social media apps. are way more popular than the native support? Because those provide much better access.
Don't get me wrong; I tend to agree with you. But I'd be more impressed if MS would have fixed the option which allows us WP7 users to sync todo lists with Outlook 2010 and WP7 /first/ (the Outlook Hotmail connecter still can't cope with this).
A 'different' wrong...
Not too sure how to react to the whole pr0n thing. I can't imagine a pr0n ban nor even imagine what positive affect it would have, guess this is proof that "if you ban something common it'll go underground".
Instead I wonder if the kids parents aren't fighting symptoms here. It appears that instead of reprimanding the kid for not putting enough time into his studies they're simply in the process of taking away the distracting factor. Now, assuming he doesn't have to go to jail I can't help wonder: What will those parents do when the next major distraction turns up?
Say the guy meets a cute girlfriend and his study efforts drop again? Are they going to force him not to see her then or something?
Why not, instead of reporting this whole thing to the police, reprimand the kid not to slack off his studies and actually teach him that no matter what the distraction: you got to set priorities for yourself (this is of course assuming they didn't, the article wasn't quite clear on that but this appears to be the case) ?
My guess would be at least until such time that there are any streets to view.
There is more to it...
Building a community is one thing, knowing how to treat it right is something else completely.
Not directly open source but I'm very deeply involved with synthesizers, sound synthesis and electronic music in general. To that end I follow a few support forums for some of the products I own (Ableton Live & Reason being the best examples here).
But quite frankly these two forums I mentioned above are /much/ more than mere support forums. Because the companies behind these products allow for users to, well, use the forums for much more besides product support. Ranging from product related questions, obviously, right to specific topics which only involve electronic music or sound synthesis in general.
And... And they /also/ allow for people to spout off their negative opinions about the products, services and basically the whole kaboodle. Sure; they keep somewhat of a (light) lid on it so that matters don't get out of hand, but in general people are pretty much free to out their opinions. And /that/ is one way to build a community.
I for one still recall how the Propellerhead forums at one time almost exploded when Propellerhead software (company behind Reason) made some specific business decisions about the way to provide new upgrades to their software.
Yet it survived without little or no moderation and people still enjoy themselves there.
Then there is another forum for a very well known DAW which name I won't mention here... The forum is kept under a tight leash and the very moment when someone shares something which could give the impression of something negative for their product(s) they're usually advised to take it directly up with support and keep things out of the forums.
And that is one way to ruin a community, even right before one has yet to form.
As such my comment: there is much more to building up a community....
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