* Posts by ShelLuser

1868 posts • joined 19 Dec 2010

Astroboffins to search for mega-massive alien power plants

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@AC

Good idea, the only risk we'd take is when they ever become self aware we'd have created our own worst enemies (according to Stargate SG-1 that is).

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@John

More likely is that some boffins are totally incapable to think outside the box so to speak.

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Way too much assumptions

"No matter what form they might take, they'd undoubtedly give off infrared radiation that could be detected by such sensitive sensors such as those aboard WISE – and that's where Wright and his team come in."

So we're assuming that such an Alien nation actually has the means and skills to build a Dyson sphere, but immediately conclude that they can't be advanced enough with chemistry to have invented an alloy capable of complete absorption (or at least one which doesn't waste any energy at all) ?

Sounds like a very flakey assumption to me.

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Massive strike at Foxconn's iPhone 5 factory

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@AC

Point well made, I was happy not to see Samsung appear there.

Even so; I do wonder if the demand a company puts on the factory isn't also a big influence in all this. I could imagine Apple in more demand for lots of phones given the current demand in the market than, say, Microsoft or Nokia.

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Oracle, Google limber up for round two in their Android Java bout

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@Bob

According to an Oracle spokesman I never spoke with this isn't about money but to protect the developers from the influences of the evil empire. Makes perfect sense, no?

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Drinking too much coffee can MAKE YOU BLIND

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Sceptical...

Seeing is believing!

But more serious though; studies like these are going on forever. First one has to wonder how realistic and truthful these findings are. Sure; they may look genuine now but just give it time. It won't be the first "shocking conclusion" which gets debunked a few months later (but such news usually only finds its way on page 6 or 7 of the newspaper) and it won't be the last.

I like to cook. Not a fanatical cook or such, but from time to time I like spending a few hours to cook up a good meal. As such one can expect that I also have a cookbook, though I also heavily use the Net for this (never underestimate what you can learn from other people's advices or tips, even though you might not agree with them!). Like with computers I don't need hand holding, I need a guide telling me the basics, and from there on I'll find my own way. So my cookbook dates from 1960 or so and it explains the very essence of (Dutch) meals. The seasoned dishes, common dishes and everything around it (how to make certain sauces, what kind of ingredients make variation, etc, etc.).

The book starts with an introduction: "What is healthy now is soon to be claimed unhealthy and the bad dishes often turn out not that bad anymore when new studies have been performed".

I kid you not; such studies have been going on for ages. Its the same with everything else: just try not to overdo it, then you should be fine.

Speaking of which: ever heard of nutmeg ? Its a spice with a very specific and strong flavour. and commonly used throughout the world. However, consuming too large amounts can actually be poisonous. Yet that never seems to bother anyone...

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Microsoft plans midnight launch for Surface

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There will be queue's

Even if they have to pay for them!

Quite frankly, the Surface looked interesting to me when it was first introduced. I even allowed myself to look past the glitch in the demo (you see the guys Surface doesn't do anything anymore so he quietly replaces it) and what they showed there looked good.

But quite frankly the appeal only went downhill for me from there on.

I'm especially baffled with the stories about how Win7 manages to be better suited for using regular desktop apps. in a touch screen environment than Win8. So even though the device may look appealing you won't see me in one of those queue's. It's the kind of hardware you really need to try before you buy.

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Mobe app makers doubt Windows 8 will be worth the hassle - poll

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I think theres another problem

Apps being able to run on both mobile & desktop is a nice idea but one has to wonder: who would care about apps on the desktop which were written with lots of restraints kept in mind? In other words: which could perform much better, if written or targeted differently ?

Ok, and it has to be said, although I'm repeating things: And how many people would actually /use/ those apps on the desktop anyway? So far Win8 isn't exactly being excitingly welcomed on that platform.

...which then leaves a mobile market with a lot less market share than the competition.

Sorry but I'm not a believer this is going to work out. Even if it works technically.

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Microsoft installs new Win8 evangelism boss – weeks before launch

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I get it!

We don't need to change the OS or the parts everyone is complaining about. We need to change the way we present it.

Brilliant strategy indeed.

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Privacy guardian wants one EU rulebook on ID databases

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What they want..

Is easier access to the data from other countries. The more this EU moloch is growing the more power does it seem to pull towards itself. And the worst part is that the population has no say in the matter what so ever.

The whole EU is a totally undemocratic body. Think about it: What exactly can you "vote" for during those eu elections? Dunno about you guys, but here in Holland all we can do is vote for a group of people of which it is already certain that they got new jobs in Europe. I always thought the eu should unite us. I often see how people in other countries (Germans or Belgians) come up with a far better and much more serious plan on what they want to do when they get elected. Or better put: they manage to promote themselves much better. Even so, it leaves me with the question: why can't I vote for them instead?

Instead we can only chose which one we'll sent to europe and no matter what you vote for they're all going (at least here in Holland). Amazing...

So all I'm seeing here is simply a few of those guys trying to make the whole system more transparent so that they can gain easier access to the data of other European countries. Could Orwell have been 100 years off by any chance? 1984 should have been 2084 ?

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Boffins: Our memory film is like your girlfriend - transparent and cheap

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Tech clothes for the Emperor!

"What? I'm not running around naked; I'm wearing SiOx resistive memory you insensitive peasant!".

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Experts mull 'kill switch' for stock-wrecking techno-blunders

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"All those nasty hackers..."

"If we simply build in this kill switch they might turn us off, but at least will leave the rest of our data alone.

Of course we're not making it easier for them; who would want to use such a scheme to blackmail us? That's absurd. Besides; if they do then at least we got their address. Its a full proof plan!"

Lets talk about in, say, 3 years or so. I can see it now: "Hacker threatens to shut down $small_cloud_provider by pulling kill switch".

They I'll go: "Told you so!".

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Global action takes down tech support scam

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I expected a bit more...

Its a good thing that these guys are being taken care of; they deserve everything they get IMO because they make us technies as a whole look bad IMO. I mean; someone who got swindled (which is the real crime, though I could bet more charges can be found such as obtaining illegal access to the computer) is most likely not to trust tech support that often. So basically they're damaging our reputation in some way.

However... I would have expected a little more coming from the bigger companies. A little more effort to raise some kind of awareness. I know you can't easily target these potential "scam targets" because as (assumingly) non-technies thats kinda hard. You can't expect companies like MS to start billion dollar advertisement campaigns merely to warn people.

But they could have tried more to raise awareness amongst their known customers. For example; sent everyone with an hotmail ('outlook') address an e-mail about this. Either I missed it or it didn't happen.

I do think its an outstanding job that media such as El Reg spend plenty of attention on all this. While we may know better not to fall for tricks like this; what about your neighbour? It was a good opportunity to raise awareness in your direct surroundings, which I did.

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Sony PS3 sales soar on slimmer system

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Of course it didn't hinder sales...

Why would a slimline PS3 suddenly stop people from buying one?

Another important aspect is that the new model also has more storage capacity, so its not as if people suddenly get less hardware for more money or such.

Even so; I'm still happy with my "fat" PS3. Bought it approx. 3.5 years ago, upgraded the HD from 80Gb to 500Gb and it just keeps running.

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Top admen beg Microsoft to switch off 'Do Not Track' in IE 10

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And lets not forget where its coming from...

IMO Microsoft are doing a lot of good things as of late. Also lots of bad stuff, sure, but when it comes to privacy and customer protection I think they're setting the right tone these days.

But although I think they deserve credit for actions as these I also think its important to realize where its coming from: Microsoft are feeling the heat from the competition. Not to discredit them or anything, but I do think its important to keep in mind.

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@Christoph

The only real report I know of was from the Apache programmer who apparently was so upset with this default setting that he threatened to implement a routine in the Apache server to ignore the setting whenever it was coming from MSIE10.

Talk about professionalism...

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HMRC: Moving our data to the cloud will make it MORE secure

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Single point of failure

It's the only thing being technically involved here. You're simply moving it. So when one office has a problem the other is most likely still capable of working. When your centralized cloud has a problem the whole infrastructure comes to a screeching halt.

And the only reason why some would call this progress is because they're either too stupid to understand what is going on or this decision serves completely different interests.

...as happened numerous of times in the past.

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China domain name land grab about to start

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I'm still wondering....

How does one type that into the browser without using copy & paste?

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Rapper rips up Microsoft's Atlanta store during performance

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Well, to his defense...

I suppose some people really lose their mind when becoming exposed too long to Windows 8. And when its a SOB like this one bad things happen....

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RIP Psion PLC: You're with Motorola now

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Psion was kinda dead anyway

I got a 3c and later got the 5mx and boy was it awesome. Not only the keyboard and touchscreen but also the stuff you could do with it. I even ran Norton Commander on my 5mx. Still, from there on it went downhill pretty fast where consumer products were concerned.

With a little more innovation I can't help wonder if things couldn't have been different.

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Oracle stumps for community support for Java strategy

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Oracle are idiots; they know nothing about "the community"!

Back in the days of Sun I would have believed and even valued and respected statements as "community effort". But when it comes from Oracle all I can think of is: "Cheap labour".

Don't these idiots realize that in the past post-Sun years they have actually been very effective in pushing away the community as much as they can? The only reason I use Java is because I simply like and enjoy the language, I'm not really up to learning a new language which might be able to use the JVM too.

But they made it very clear how much they loved the community when they raised the support costs for all the previous Sun products up to a price where small players (the community) simply couldn't afford it anymore. I licensed several Solaris servers because I believed in the OS and the company. Paid approx. E 400 - 500 / year. Money well spend: continuous updates, SunSolve access, it was good. Oracle took over and I got less support and had to pay approx E800,- per CPU. So don't give me that "community" crap, Oracle only sees money, cheap labour and nothing else.

The very moment I find a Java environment out there which isn't tied into Oracle - at all - and which can still keep up a little with current developments then I'm outta here! No more Oracle for me, the sooner the better. The only reason I put up with them is because I like Java. But I dislike Oracle enough not to contribute anything to their project. Quite the opposite; I avoid them best as I can.

I do use, help, contribute and sometimes even promote NetBeans (NetBeans.org link) which is an IDE not only for Java, but also PHP, C / C++, JavaScript and HTML. It has ties with Oracle but I don't have to accept any Oracle policies to use it, I don't have to comply with lame Oracle policies before I can download it. All I have to put up with is the Oracle name and logo. But in the end its CDDL & GPL (with classpath exception).

Better yet: I'm even free to remove that Oracle crap from the IDE in its entirety. Which I did :-) Its easy :) I'm not spreading it to avoid possible issues. Even though I possibly could under the CDDL & GPL I don't want to risk it, because that's the company Oracle is: I'm sure they'd sue me for slander or illegal usage or something even though it would show they don't even understand their own licenses.

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Japan enacts two-year jail terms for illegal downloading

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This could work fine if only...

...we didn't read stories time and time again where authors get harassed for sharing their own work.

Like last time where Google locked someone out of his own account simply because he was providing torrents of his own book. And with that I meant the book he wrote himself. He provided it as a free torrent download as well as something you can buy. Google quickly picked up on this and was determined that this guy was doing something illegal. Read about that here.

As long as we have to put up with stupidity like that then I don't think laws such as these will bring us any justice. Far from it even... How long before someone gets fined for sharing (or downloading) his own stuff?

Probably never because more than once such "success stories" are also kept out of the news from time to time. For the benefit of us all of course; who wants to read about such criminals anyway....

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Better pay your taxes: The world's NOT going to end this year

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@AC

Kittens won't cut it for a Mayan calendar. Kidneys otoh would make a more fitting decoration.

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Windows 8 early-bird users still love Windows 7 more - poll

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@ac

Who said anything about enterprise? This is a poll amongst /early adopters/, that usually does not include enterprise.

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AMD launches Android app store for Windows PCs

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@Greg

Its simple... This move will boost Ballmers confidence that he is indeed on the right track. He can now tell the stock holders: "See? Even the competition tries to follow out lead! And look; they didn't even fully implement mouse support. I bet we can remove mouse support entirely in our first win8 update...".

And if that doesn't kill off Windows 8 permanently then nothing will!

Mission accomplished! :-)

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Fuming fanbois flood 'flimsy iPhone 5 Wi-Fi' forum

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@AC

"Why ado you find this so difficult to understand?"

Well, I suppose it could be possible his iphone only picked up bits and pieces from the conversation due to connectivity issues.

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Google spikes old MS file formats

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Dunno how bad this is...

Sure, when you read this the first time the idea is indeed "Google drops support for old stuff, guess the commercial interests rule again". But if you check the link in the article it becomes quite obvious that the only feature Google is dropping is the ability to export their documents to these older formats.

Which I think makes sense. If you want to sent stuff to others then why not use online storage such as SkyDrive or Google's alternative (I have no idea if they even have something like that, I don't keep up with their products) ?

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'Your app will work on Windows 8 - but please rewrite it anyway'

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@Eadon

Nope.

I can even be more specific than the AC here.. Have you never wondered why a distribution more than often installs several versions of the exact same library?

That's because a lot of the libraries used in Linux aren't backwards compatible. At all... As such; in order to be able and run certain software you sometimes need to have several versions of the same library installed, until the specific software has been updated (= rewritten) to use the new version of the library.

Which sometimes doesn't happen. And quite understandingly; library versions won't remain supported until the end of times. Versions disappear to make place for newer versions.

SO if your software would date back to 1990 without having seen any updates but would be so unfortunate to use one of those libraries then you're completely out of luck. Sometimes its even sheer impossible to get hold of older versions of certain libraries.

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@John

No, Windows can do this on its own.

As of Windows Vista PowerShell is now installed by default. All the OP needed to do was to start the right commandline environment for this job.

So:

PS > Select-String -Path c:\this\strange\directory\*.sam -Pattern "fred"

And you're done.

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Half of Milky Way's mass found in million-Kelvin gas cloud

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@Hungry

Well, its not as if we can already easily manage to leave our own solar system. Last probe that succeeded was launched in 1977 and only around 2007 did it finally leave the solar system (although it did visit some outer planets first).

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Oracle woos open sourcers with free Java web framework

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Leaving out security?

Am I the only one who doesn't consider this to be the brightest of ideas?

Just to make sure that this really was what I thought it to be I looked up the ADF Security and ended up on this page (Oracle article). A small quote: "The goal of ADF Security is to ease and promote secure application development based on standard J2EE security features and the Java Authentication and Authorization Service (JAAS).".

Now, I realize that there's always the standard EE layer and the, as mentioned above, JAAS. Even so I think that when you're dealing with web applications the one thing not to ignore is the security part.

It would have made a lot more sense to me if Oracle left out some of the parts which made setting up the "eye candy" easier than actually and effectively risking to reduce security.

Have they already forgotten the issues with Java 7 ?

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Fans revolt over Amazon 'adware' in Ubuntu desktop search results

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They should have added a commercial release

I think there are plenty of people who don't understand the reason why people get upset. Sure; you can easily uninstall the lens parts and be done with it. Of course; Ubuntu was targeted at making Linux as easy as possible, so even end users could enjoy it, another problem.. But even that is not the main thing pissing people off I think.

Have we already forgotten what Ubuntu stands for? Its not just a name; its a philosophy. Which in short seems to mean "humanity" or "friendlyness towards others" (from the top of my head).

Put short: its named for following a friendly philosophy which in my opinion boil down to "Treat others as you want them treat you". Needless to say but enforcing spyware on your users sort of goes entirely against this ancient wisdom. Is it really that hard that this is going to piss people off?

Worse yet: because you're touching the very basis of the distribution you're bound to tick people off, even if they may consider this to be a rather moot issue. Its not so much the spyware as a whole; its going against what Ubuntu stands for. And that can and will scare off a lot of Ubuntu die hards and followers; people who fully believe in this.

Canonical should have known better, because I think the damage done might be much greater than one might realize. I mean; if they know this little about the distribution, what guarantees have followers that they won't do even worse?

In my opinion Canonical should have added a commercial release. I dunno; maybe a server edition which can be supported for 5 years or so. Or extra commercial support for the product. Which is putting the finger on another sore spot: is it possible that Canonical wanted a way to generate more revenue but without too much extra effort? How friendly is that; normally people work for their money...

I am not an Ubuntu user anymore, I used to be a big fan of the LTS releases. But the ideas behind Ubuntu have always appealed to me. As such, even as an outsider I think this has fail written all over it.

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@eulampios

Actually going from a Long Term Support (LTS) release to a regular one isn't that much of a big deal. Because what do you think people suggest you do if an LTS to LTS upgrade goes wrong (which unfortunately still seems to be the case quite often) ?

Then you're advised to upgrade to all versions in between individually; version for version.

Its merely a dist-upgrade setting.

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Don't worry

First they practice on the main distribution, then they'll check how to embed this in all supported variants...

Somewhat meant jokingly but even so; do you really think they'll stop here is there's money to be made?

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Apple iPhone 5 review

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Does it come with eternal life yet?

In the last demo of the iPhone which I saw Mr.Jobs denied the roary crowd its awesomeness due to their hostility.

SO I can't help wonder; has eternal life been added?

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Mars rover Curiosity gets ready to blast its first rock

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All that's left to do...

Is to hope its a real rock and not an alien egg ;-)

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Microsoft releases VMware-eater

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I'll believe it when I see it...

Now, this is probably comparing apples and oranges but MS has their VirtualPC for quite some time now. Its even featured with Win7 professional as "Windowx XP mode", this allows Win7 pro users to run a virtual Windows XP instance.

Of course this is where the good part of the story ends. While it can grok server 2008 and such it won't run Windows 8 for example (which I consider a pretty fail). Nor most linux distributions (I have managed to get Debian to work, but it wasn't easy and that's about it wrt Linux).

So with this in mind... Topping VMWare? I'll believe that the moment I'm able to run a virtual Windows 8 on my current Windows 7 using a Microsoft based solution.

But until then....

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Google acts against prostitution app after complaints from Congress

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Let me guess...

First the brasses used this app themselves and then all of a sudden either weren't pleased with the results or finally realized that this could put them into a rough spot.

And so the app had to go...

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Dice swallows Slashdot, SourceForge, Freecode in $20m deal

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Why? (who cares!)

"The deal caused some head-scratching from observers – why would a recruiting site want to acquire media and code-hosting businesses?"

Advertising, advertising, advertising.

Your (our) problem is that we're tempted to look at this with a reality vision in the back of our heads; some of my fellow posters also mentioned as much above: geeks (think Slashdot) use ad blockers.

But that is now how the suits look at this.. In Holland we have a nice saying: "Ongehinderd door enige kennis van zaken".. or: "Not disturbed with any knowledge on the subject..." is a good translation.

But to be honest.. The fact that El Reg carried this news /sooner/ than Slashdot itself is what I consider to be the real dealbreaker here.

Could it be they don't want the /. crowd to know? I'm not just saying this: a lot of times /. "beats" others such as El Reg to some of the technical based news. As such... puzzling...

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Microsoft bod dreams up 'Star Trek holodeck' games console

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Didn't Sony already do this?

Some year ago I bought my gf 'EyePet'; its a PS3 game involved around the Playstation Eye (camera) which displays your room on the telli and adds a plushy adorable furry creature into the mix. She actually liked it and thus the down side; it meant cleaning out the table and freeing it from everything which could block the view of the camera because the game wouldn't work otherwise.

Even so; I have to admit being impressed with what I saw. Even trying to kick the virtual creature away from my couch only made it jump up and carefully avoid my feet.

As such... not sure if I understood the article right but it seems to me as if Sony beat them to the punch a few years.

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Ballmer: Win8 'certainly surpasses' Win95 in importance

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Oh I agree

Only problem is "Importance for who". In my experience I'd say its important to realize you'd best steer clear of this one if you're using a desktop environment.

That can be important too you know, though most likely not what Ballmer intended.

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Microsoft announces Office 2013, Office 365 pricing

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Microsoft seeks money

Make no mistake about it: this comment comes from someone using and actually /liking/ Office 2010. Thing is; I'm glad I stepped onto this the way I did because what came out next.. ugh...

Office 365 is about the worst investment you can get into in my opinion. Because while it may not appear to be a major investment multiply the price you pay per month by 12 or 24 and then compare that to the purchase price of plain Office.

Another issue to keep in mind: Although I think 365 is decent it cannot compete with the desktop apps. If you are an "office power user" (meaning: you use templates and VBA code to back those up) then 365 won't help you out. Heck; worse... There are several features which the desktop has and 365 simply can't cope with.

Bottom line: if this deal appeals to you (why not?) I'd urge you to first: DEMO 365 before you sign up. Maybe you'll like what you see; good. Then you got confirmation. But I think chances are high that you don't like what you see; then you saved quite some money.

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Google to axe IE 8 support, cuts off Windows XP lifeline

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@Test man

With the small difference that XP is still officially supported by Microsoft and Win98 has long been EOL'd.

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Work for beer, Neil Gaiman's wife tells musicians

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Work for beer is dangerous!

Hasn't she ever seen Blues Brothers?

"Ok, $200 and you boys drank for $300 worth of beer".

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Twitter bows to subpoena, releases Occupy protester's tweets

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@JDX

"The court might decide they are responsible TO keep data - if I post something illegal on Twitter and then remove it, they should not allow me to delete it and get away scot free."

That holds more truth than you know it. In the EU companies are bound by law to keep e-mails and logfiles and preserve them for at least 5 years. I don't think many companies actually comply with this law because storing all of that data would become quite a hassle. Even so; this is the law over here.

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Final Office 2013 for ARM may not ship until January

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The new Office doesn't ship?

Like who cares?

Ok; that was a sneer (troll?). Sorry, but I can't come to conclude that MS is doing its utmost best to make their new products as inaccessible as they can.

Take the new Office.. If I want to start a new Word document I fire up Word. Sounds logical enough; but the new Word doesn't put me in a new (empty) Word document. Nooooo.... It gets me into the "open new & recent" section from which I can select a previous document or select a template on which to base my document on. Of course without any option to skip this crap and move into the empty section I want. Nope; I need to press escape first.

Talk about fail.. I mean honestly; why not give us users a choice. You know; allowing a wide range of end users to use your products the way WE want ?

I can understand how Microsoft finally discovered the start screen, many other vendors (NetBeans being my example) have done so too though YEARS before them. However; those vendors also (very) quickly discovered that adding an option to disable or bypass that start screen was a very smart decision too.

And here we are now: Microsoft reinventing he wheel without paying attention to any prior cause. As usual. While ending up making things much harder on the end user. As usual again it seems.

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Who's afraid of Windows 8? Trio leads Microsoft migration pack

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Good for who?

First of all one has to wonder who will actually profit from this move. The company user for using a new product, or the company for using a product which could make them usable for promotional activities?

Quite frankly I think the only businesses which would consider Win8 on the desktop are those who haven't bothered to look into the whole administrative part yet. Because even from an admin pov the start screen has fail written all over it.

Where the start menu was a fully modular environment the start screen is turned into a single file entity which contains the used tiles, the start screen settings, etc. The fail part should be obvious: if a user gets a new application or one is removed this will also reset his/her entire start screen to the default settings. Because the only way to achieve this is by publishing an entire new start screen.

In the old situation one could easily push a single link to a global group which would result in that link becoming visible to all users.

Guess this behaviour should also be limited to the desktop (which kept the modular behaviour).

But I see another fail wrt windows 8, especially for business use.

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Reg hack runs Windows 8 on 82-inch touchscreen

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Liked the video

That it wasn't a perfect video only adds up to it IMO. I only see a guy (possibly) suddenly thinking "hey, that could be cool for an El Reg article" and without any planning shot a video with the help of a colleague or friend or helpful bystander.

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Hate the Windows 8 touch UI? Try Kinect-like finger shaking instead

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@JDX

Just like they're not enforcing desktop users to use a touch-optimized environment eh?

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Microsoft Visual Studio 2012 launch spreads desktop app love

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Seems they made a mistake....

If you check the download links for 'Express 2012 for Windows 8' and 'Express 2012 for desktop' you'll notice that both point to the same link (linkid 9816758 for the web installer and 9816768 for the ISO). It seems to me as if someone replaced one version with the other.

I noticed after I first installed the desktop version and then wanted to install the Windows 8 version. Instead of a new installer I was greeted with the option to either repair or remove the desktop version.

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