17 posts • joined 18 Nov 2010
Some of you guys picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Re: 40 or 400
Barely cross campus, well maybe a small campus.
Pretty sure SanDisk is in an investor in Tegile, who also recently announced an all flash array to complement their hybrid solution.
Pure and Tegile and the two best platforms. Both do inline dedupe and compression. Tegile is great because it is truly multi-protocol and smoking fast. Pure on the other really know their shit with regarding to writing to disk. They REALLY know flash. To add to that a guy 1 week out of Devry could manage it. Not sure they will ever do true multi-protocol, but otherwise it is a great box.
SolidFire is really nice as well for the SP community.
Of course it reads like a press release. Most stuff here, and everywhere else, does.
However what the Zerto guys are doing is very cool. This is real-time replication with a lot more built-in. If I want to move from a VMware-based cloud to Azure, I point and click. When it syncs I can failover over a multi-VM application in a few minutes. That includes full network failover.
Converting formats is one thing. Doing it with zero data loss and a downtime window of a few minutes is very cool. Doing it with software that is completely independent of the hardware and hypervisor infrastructure is also very cool.
Man, we just quoted a Tegile box to a client doing 60K IOPs over NFS with 3yr sppt for under $100K (US). I know they have boxes that are in the 100-250K IOPs range and still under $200K (US).
Re: Capacity On-demand
Their utility model is pretty nice. You can burst into and out of capacity as needed. Paying month to month on usage. Coupled with the dedupe and compression, you get a lot of bang for your buck. Similar to procuring through the cloud.
Tegile has a capacity on-demand pricing model. It is a good box. I have had several clients test it and all of them were impressed.
I have commented on Maxta before, but that stuff is great. We have a few clients using it. Still may not be ready for a large scale-out environment, but the product is solid. As pointed out in the article, you can add nodes and storage as needed, they are not correlated. It is basically a hybrid array you can run in sw.
As more and more is moving into the virtual realm, traditional storage sw is really losing its appeal. When you have a non-virtualized app, protecting and performing storage level services at the LUN/volume level made sense. It makes no sense to this when you are running many VMs on a LUN/volume.
You get a lot more flexibility and better protection doing it at the virtual disk level. Whether it is something like Veeam, Zerto, etc. it is just generally the better way to go for "storage sw". And it is storage sw, after all they are performing storage sw services, only it is at the hypervisor level.
You also can remove vendor lock-in by not adopting their replication in particular.
Depending upon the AFA, there are other value props for leveraging the technology than just performance. Some incorporate the promise of what DataDomain wanted to do prior to EMC buying them - inline dedupe and compression, etc. This makes them very space efficient which in turn impacts power, data center footprint, etc. You can buy X amount raw but get X*3-5 usuable. There is management as well. There are some neat implementations of how you manage these systems. Others not so much though.
I see the workloads for these being OLTP. Those apps drive the business. And from a vendor perspective, that is where the money is. VDI and VMware a good plays, but OLTP is where they should play. To the author's point, how enterprise ready are the AFAs? Replication is key but there are alternatives - namely app level replication for OLTP (DataGuard, etc.). That said to be truly enterprise ready, they need true sync and async replication with consistency groups.
Not a Pure employee here.... We have tested Pure and really, really like. Uber freaking fast. As well their story on how they handle writes to SSDs is a totally different conversation than any of the other all flash players, including XMtremeIO.
Many of the EMC claims are misleading and appear to be marketing spin. If this is what they telling their field teams to lead with against Pure, they won't fair too well.
Full disclosure, I work for an integrator. Pure and EMC are both partners of ours.
We like it
We have done extensive testing with Maxta and really like it. It does everything they say. They need to improve scaling at a cluster level for larger environments, but they seem confident it is coming soon.
We have looked at Nutanix. Maxta gives you the same value prop with commodity servers and some MLCs and SATA drives at a significantly lower cost. It is uber easy to manage as well. We have historically shied away, er ran, from recommending VSAs. Maxta is the first we have moved forward with.
Even though they are in stealth I have already recommended it to a few clients. One has already purchased the sw.
Re: Desperate peace moves
You should look at Maxta. Similar to the vSAN but they present everything as an NFS datastore on a VMware cluster basis. Lots of enterprise functionality like read/write caching in flash, zero footprint snaps and clones, dedupe and compression. We tested it for a client and came away impressed. We have not recommended VSAs in the past because the performance is terrible. We really like Maxta though.
If you are acquired by EMC you really do not have influence on direction unless you are in Hopkinton. I have no clue about plans to merge products, but the fact Isilon is a Seattle-based outfit really cuts out the clout and influence they have at the table.
problem displacement challenge
I'll give you an example...VMware doing volume management.
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