* Posts by Roo

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VISC-y business: Can Soft Machines keep the free lunch counter open?

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Re: Writing parallel code doesn't have to be any harder than writing sequential code.

"But when you start talking about true parallelisation, with multiple threads working on the same data set, these approaches don't work. HPC code writers have struggled with this problem for many years."

I suspect that we're in violent agreement. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with respect to threads hammering away at some shared data.

The point I'm trying to make is that writing a bit of code to do something in parallel isn't hard in itself. In fact languages & tools that have a concept of parallelism make a lot of problems a lot easier to solve. :)

On the other hand breaking up the problem into nice discrete computational units that run nicely in parallel at run-time is hard. In essence I'm saying the mechanics of writing parallel code are actually straightforward, the most intractable bits lie in the logical domain.

With respect to VISC it is a step in the right direction, but AFAICT it seems to be rooted in the tightly coupled thread world. As you know component failure in a distributed system is almost guaranteed - and in the real world you usually have to share your system with other workloads at runtime, so what I would like to see this kind of tooling scale from threads on the same die right up to balancing multiple workloads on a few hundred racks. In my minds eye that magic toolset would stitches all the pieces together so a developer/ops/sa can take a kernel / dataset, move it around and refactor it to fit the hardware it's running on at run-time.

I know that does sound like a bit of wishful thinking, but many pieces of the puzzle have been done already over the past 30 years or so,

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Writing parallel code doesn't have to be any harder than writing sequential code.

VISC sounds neat, but at the end of the day it seems to be more concerned with scheduling instructions across a bunch of cores, and as such it's not going to make much more headway against Amdahl's Law. That said I do like the fact they're tackling the problem of fitting parallel code to the hardware at run-time, that is a problem that hasn't really been taken seriously enough in my view - but I think we really need to go a lot further than VISC to fix that one.

I take issue with this oft-repeated assumption that writing Parallel code is harder than writing Sequential code. If you're solving the same problem, the constraints are the same, so why should it be any more difficult ?

Case in point hardware engineers have been writing parallel code for years without making a fuss about it, their code tends to be a bunch of communicating state machines instead of a pile of if-then-else spaghetti. Sometimes it's actually easier to do a bit of parallel programming than shoe-horn the solution into a sequential straitjacket, the key is using the right tool for the job.

No doubt some people who have been burnt by threads are going to take issue with my stance on this topic. I have a clue for you guys: using a sequential language with threads is the problem - it's global variables all over again - but this time with multiple threads of execution hammering away at them.

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Judge spanks SCO in ancient ownership of Unix lawsuit

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Re: Unixware

"I often wonder whether it would be possible to resurrect Unixware."

That is one of those things that may well be possible but is also dangerous, painful and ultimately unrewarding - I'd put it in the same category as going quail hunting with Dick Cheney. It looks as though you can still buy it, although I really struggle to find any upside to purchasing a neglected zombie cash cow.

"I would love to see a real genetic UNIX available again"

Depends on your idea of real I guess... I count the *BSDs as being more real UNIX than the various commercial hacks of SVR4 - but that is because I cut my teeth on SunOS and was then savaged by rabid Solaris boxes. Those boxes running early cuts of Solaris were so unreliable, and so badly set up that I concluded that they weren't running a UNIX.

Those scars linger on - as a result I still avoid SVR4 when given an option. :)

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We are never getting back to... Samsung's baking Apple's 14nm 'A9' chips?

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Re: @Roo

I wrote:

"You are making the (incorrect) assumption that Apple are the only people who want to make use of Samsung's fabs."

You replied:

"I'm making that correct assumption on the basis that Apple was reported in 2012 to account for 89% of Samsung's foundry business"

I think you missed the point... I'm saying the demand is there for that process regardless of whether Apple are using it or not..

FWIW iSuppli has Samsung ranked #2 by revenue from 2002-2013 (IDM & foundry), I guess we'll have to wait for the 2014 figures to see if A8X put a measurable dent in those figures.

You should keep in mind that Apple are still shipping a lot of Samsung chips in their gear that aren't A8X's - simply because they can't get enough volume from anyone else - which is not surprising given that Samsung has been #2 (second only to Intel) by revenue for over a decade.

Samsung would have more cause to worry if Intel+Micron managed to muscle in on the Apple business.

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Re: @Roo

"It is pretty obvious given the massive amount of capacity Apple was using. With an average die size of 100 mm^2, given the volumes of chips they'd be buying it is essentially the entire output of one modern fab. I saw figures suggesting that Samsung would drop to 30% utilization on their leading edge processes as a result of Apple ditching them for TSMC."

You are making the (incorrect) assumption that Apple are the only people who want to make use of Samsung's fabs.

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"Just remember these are chips designed by Apple, not Samsung , they are only producing them off apples design."

Or to put it another way:

Apple design a core, copying the core design features from ARM's IP, and then pay someone else to make it for them because they don't have the ability to fab their own designs, unlike Samsung.

Apple have more than enough money to build a 14nm fab, there must good reasons why they have not gone that route yet... The usual reasons are lack of skills & thin profit margins. In Apple's case the latter won't apply - so that leaves lack of skill / technical ability as the most likely show-stopper.

It is sad that many of (superficially) technically literate posters seem to be completely unaware of how much skill, knowledge & effort goes into building & running fabs. I'm guessing none of them have ever actually made anything in the real world.

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Re: Ha-Ha!

"Samsung was left with a LOT of very underutilized fab space when Apple chose TSMC to make the A8 and A8X"

Got any figures to back that up or are you just guessing ?

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Disk areal density: Not a constant, consistent platter

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Re: Duh...

"This is all perfectly obvious. Why would anyone assume different?"

That was my initial thought - based on reading the manual for a CDC Wren hard drive.

However it is technically possible for a drive to handle a variable aerial density either through signal processing or adjusting the motor speed (Compact Discs have been doing this for donkeys years).

Varying spindle speed would probably be pretty dumb for random-access drives - so my money would be on varying bit rate to maintain near-constant aerial density. I have a feeling Fujitsu Eagles may have done that trick - but I could be confusing them with something else - it's been a long time since I delved into hard drive schematics. :)

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TALE OF FAIL: Microsoft offers blow-by-blow Azure outage account

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Re: Hmm... Whilst there is much that one can criticise Redmond for I have to say..............

"...........that their openness about what went wrong on this occasion is to be welcomed."

I'll second that, well played MS Azure folks.

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Why is ICANN rushing its 'UN 'net security council'? So it can be announced at Davos

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Re: Can someone interprete this to me like I'm 5 years old?

You can have a cynical view for nothing. :)

I read it as some people who have decided that they will get more out of life by ingratiating themselves with a bunch of very wealthy and powerful folks at a meeting in Davos. They are hoping to accomplish this coup by offering a service that caters to the demands of the wealthy and powerful folks in preference to paying attention to the needs of the proles.

They are actually proving themselves to be useful by sticking two fingers up at the proles and doing corrupt stuff like trying to appoint themselves permanent positions of power. A little bit like the WW2 Vichy government but without any notion of civic duty.

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Sony Pictures hit by 'fightback on filesharers' DDoS claims – report

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Re: Not what I have read..

"If I had attempted to rootkit the entire planet, pretty sure that I'd still have a stripy suntan today. AFAIK nobody from Sony was jailed."

It goes a bit further than that. Sony's actions and lack of response from the authorities is making the law look stupid. It shows that there is no point in abiding by the law because it is not being enforced where there is a large amount of harm done to a large number of people, and even worse it makes the police & judiciary look like a bunch of corrupt feckless numpties*.

*= I know that they aren't all corrupt feckless numpties - but it only takes a few to screw everyone.

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Re: No fan of Sony, but...

" I am not even sure that one can accuse Sony of faking anything - nothing that does not belong to them, at least. "

By that logic it's open season on Sony's publishing operations (incl. websites) seeing as they occasionally infringe copyright. The fact is Sony don't own the servers, the storage or the pipes that stuff is traveling along, they would just be another bunch of self-righteous wanker script kiddies if they decided to do a bit damage.

Oh they've root-kitted millions of PCs already you say ?

Case closed.

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Surprised Sony refused to comment...

Usually PR hacks are only too happy to assure the general population that they're doing nothing illegal - why the reluctance to whitewash their name today ?

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El Reg Redesign - leave your comment here.

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This will be lost in the tide... But here goes...

Reg, that reformatting effort was very, very brave.

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'Critical' security bugs dating back to 1987 found in X Window

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Re: No worries...

"Exactly Stuart. It's impossible to look 30 years into the future and predict anything*, let alone what part of your code may be exploited."

Let's be honest... You don't need a crystal ball to tell you that it's bad practice to try and dereference a pointer that *may* be invalid.

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Identity thieves slurp Sony Pictures staff info – as CEO sends 'don't sue me, bro' memo

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Re: Money, and only money, talks

"Take a look at Sony's stock this week. Barely a dip (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/stock/stockprice.html)."

They just lost a ton of IP and confidential info, and it appears that the market has priced that IP at ~$0. Sony, f.off and root yourself.

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Re: just a thought or two.

"Nation state or criminal group ( and unless people have been living under a rock, yes, there are a couple out there that are just as sophisticated as quite a few Intelligence Agencies...) , this has been a big one, and the current broohaha is only the first chapter in the book."

Interesting hypothesis. I hereby award you an up-vote and a Black Helicopter !

I'm going to see if I can find my copy of Burning Chrome. ;)

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"There is much we cannot say about our security protocols for obvious reasons,"

Let me guess, their "security protocols" amount to security by obscurity...

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Ten Linux freeware apps to feed your penguin

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Re: @Chris W Haven't we been here before @tnovelli

"Excellent point. If I want a motor bike I don't start with a Cervelo racing cycle, bolt on a load of home made parts, end up making 10 different versions of it then claim they're all an Harley Davidson."

No, instead you pay for Microsoft's hacked up pseudo-Harley that's constructed out of an unholy mixture of obsolete high mileage used parts dating back to the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s, all lashed together with spit, bailer twine. The ECU is sealed inside a big wodge of epoxy resin - which is a bummer because it fails frequently, and can only be fixed by the single main dealer that is on the other side of the Earth.

The manufacturer doesn't do recalls, instead they break into your garage on a Tuesday to add some new bits. This is a mixed blessing because sometimes the pseudo-hog won't be in working condition afterwards - and it will still look, smell and sound like a scrapyard has crapped on your garage floor. Lots of people like these pseudo-Harleys, and some of them feel very superior bumbling along in the slow lane, but at the first sign of rain or a pothole they end up on the hard shoulder crying for assistance. :)

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Re: Hmm. Geany could be worth a look...

"At the moment I have to import half of KDE into Mint to get Kate up and running... looks like Geany has the same general philosophy."

FWIW I found it to be very quick and easy to download & build Geany on Mint Debian Edition (MATE desktop already installed). Geany starts up instantly and it does just enough to help but not too much to be awkward. It's simplicity & speed remind me of the old Borland ASCII IDEs, while it brings modern 'features' like auto-completion (which isn't as clever as Eclipse or Visual Studio - but works very well for me).

I think everyone should give it a go and if they don't like it they haven't wasted money or filled their hard drive with IDE or wasted 2 hours of their lives installing it. :)

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UK slaps 25 per cent 'Google Tax' on tech multinationals

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Re: I'm confused...@Ledswinger

"Rover Group and Marconi?"

Good guess & 50% right. :)

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Re: I'm confused...@Ledswinger

Sadly the facts behind the demise of Exhibits A & B won't change however many times my observations are downvoted. I wish it were otherwise because there was some good engineering and good people done in those places, the result was a terrible waste of potential. :)

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Re: I'm confused...@Ledswinger

"There arent many UK multinationals left because bleeding heart liberals like you have voted in morons like Gideon, who tax them to death to support all the vote buying handouts they give to layabouts and goodfornothings."

The ones that died while I was paying attention went tits up under the allegedly "business friendly" reign of the Conservatives. In my career I worked for two British multi-nationals, in both cases the tax bill failed to kill either of them. Like many of their contemporaries they were mismanaged into the ground or simply starved of working capital by lenders - then split up and asset stripped so that the management and bankers could make a tidy wedge while the grunts were left to try and reclaim their unpaid wages at the tax payer's expense.

In the case of Exhibit A they were unable to secure a relatively small amount of cash from lenders to develop their next gen products - so they sat on the sidelines for 5 years or so while the competition streaked ahead - unable to raise the enough money from falling sales and margins... Exhibit B's demise was triggered by a major cheese deciding to redirect a ton of company money from R&D into spaffing money on investments which tanked, and then to make it all better they borrowed a ton more money and spaffed it on more investments which also tanked...

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Brits conned out of nearly £24m in phone scams IN ONE YEAR

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3xLosses in just one year ?

Is that because the banks/police are giving 3x as much of a toss about it as last year ?

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Feds dig up law from 1789 to demand Apple, Google decrypt smartphones, slabs

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Re: "necessary or appropriate"

There is an upside to systematic abuse of this law, it would render a huge amount of legislation null and void, and as a result put some lawyers out of work. :)

Joking aside though the judiciary may as well throw out the rule books now. Pointless having them exist beyond the convincing the masses that justice is done now, and even that could be handled by Judge Judy re-runs.

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By the Rivers of Babylon, where the Antikythera Mechanism laid down

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Re: Been in the museum where they have this object

"Er...State Control is a LEFT wing Socialist concept. Far Right Wing attitudes are libertarian, and 'social control rejecting'."

Using left and right to characterize political/social policy is pointless. You have no point, and you don't even get a down vote because it would be as pointless as your post. ;)

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The gender imbalance in IT is real, ongoing and ridiculous

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Re: I would love total equality in the workplace (IT or otherwise)

"if she exists"

She does, I love her. I was watching Les Dawson on iPlayer shortly before posting.

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Re: I would love total equality in the workplace (IT or otherwise)

"When I get 50% of the "stuff girls get to do" (interior decorating decisions, keeping a home, both nurturing and disciplining offspring) then I will be more open to talk of "equality"."

In my case I have found that you can actually get to do 50% or even more of the stuff girls get to do...

"The wife" is always will to let me get the kids ready for school, do a full working day then help the kids with their homework, wash them, put them to bed, cook dinner for the both of us, wash up, put everything away that 3 kids and the wife have left scattered upon every horizontal surface including the floor, and hang the laundry out to dry. The wife actually *expects* that level of effort every day, but bless her kind heart, she also encourages me to do all the traditional manly things like fixing broken stuff, switching TV channels, fixing bikes, cars, computers, assembling flat pack furniture and interior decorating as well. :)

I'd welcome equality. :)

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Businessman takes Google to High Court to block online abuse from search results

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Re: A bit strange...

"I do wonder if credit reporting companies will be next."

I can't see many people shedding a tear if that were to happen, although charlatans wanting to acquire a veneer of legitimacy maybe irritated of having to find another way short-cut around due diligence.

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GCHQ and Cable and Wireless teamed as Masters of the Internet™

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[GCHQ] operates with rigorous oversight.

... And in other news, we all have nothing left to hide so there no point in them intercepting traffic.

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Big shadowy orgs should stop scooping up everyone's personal info – say Google, Facebook

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Re: Words fail me...

"if the government had access to information on everyone to the same extent Google does,"

Some governments *do* have access to the exact same information that Google does, either via interception, strong-arming, warrants or by purchasing the data.

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Microsoft exams? Tough, you say? Pffft. 5-YEAR-OLD KID passes MCP test

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"The history of Windows dates back to September 1981, when Chase Bishop, a computer scientist, designed the first model of an electronic device and project "Interface Manager" was started." - Wikipedia

It appears that you have not verified that time line against the source attributed to that sentence.

"I never said "released". Troll harder. I'm at least not claiming that anyone supports a v1 OS anymore."

In fairness you are correct, although release was implied given the context of the discussion with respect to developers/users actually getting support for the product they were using over a long period of time

On the other hand you did write "a track record of supporting operating systems longer than any other vendor" referring to Microsoft, which you would have known to be false had you taken a couple of minutes to visit Microsoft & Redhat's websites - or even Wikipedia.

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"Says the man who thinks .NET frameworks previous to 4 aren't cumulative."

Says the man who claimed that MS Windows was released in 1981...

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Microsoft: It's TIME at LAST. Yes - .NET is going OPEN and X-PLATFORM

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Re: So it works as well as Flash on OS/X ?

"SlackWare, Suse and RedHat do not support "OSes that predate Microsoft's NT 3.51" - they support more recent iterations."

Err, an iteration of an OS is just a new version of the same code base. You were talking about "operating systems", not releases of OSes after all.

"If I were judging MS the way you judge IBM et al, I could say "Microsoft have been supporting this single OS (Windows) since September 1981" but that would be disingenuous at best so I won't. I would be obliged if you'd show others the same courtesy."

MS didn't ship Windows 1.0 until 1985, so no, you couldn't make that claim on the basis of product name. If you wanted to base it on code-base then you would have to limit your claim to NT and it's descendents released back in '93 (I don't know of anyone who ran NT 3.1).

If we take the "every release is a new OS" approach then MS don't look any better than Redhat. Their current oldest supported release is Vista, released in 2006, extended support ending 2017, by contrast Redhat released RHEL4 in 2005 and it's extended support will also end in 2017.

So "a track record of supporting operating systems longer than any other vendor " is not true. MS does support their releases for a long time, just not quite as long as (some) other vendors.

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Re: So it works as well as Flash on OS/X ?

"What, a track record of supporting operating systems longer than any other vendor"

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"Does my memory fail me?"

I suspect that your memory has quietly forgotten Vista, and you haven't ever heard of folks like IBM and HP. In IBM's case they're still supporting an OS that was shipping before Bill flunked college. As it happens even newbies like Slackware, SUSE & Redhat support OSes that predate Microsoft's NT 3.51. :)

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Re: Clearly MS read Elop's memo...

".Net already runs on more recent Windows versions than XP."

Sure it does, but it doesn't change the fact that Windows is a legacy platform. Windows 8.1 ticks all the boxes that OpenVMS did on the day of it's release... Single vendor, a 'mature' ecosystem, failing to gain significant market share in the fast growing market segments of the day, it's a legacy platform.

Choosing to post as AC speaks volumes for the quality of your unsubstantiated claims of "lower vulnerability counts". If you believed your assertions you wouldn't have a problem with associating them with your account name, did the 19 year old remotely exploitable vuln spook you ?

For the record I reckon C# and .NET are better than Java, so I am pleased to see that there is an escape route for users of that tool chain.

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Clearly MS read Elop's memo...

Fair play to MS for providing a life-raft for developers deserting the legacy Windows platform. Genuinely welcome news from Redmond for once. Let's hope they choose not to subsidize that move with more extortion by nebulous patents.

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EU battles over 'anti-terrorist' passenger records slurper law

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"Of course police and security services should get the instruments they need to fight crime, but not more,"

Naw. The fuzz should get the instruments they need to reduce crime and enforce the law fairly, but those instruments require transparent and independent oversight, not only for legitimacy and trust but to ensure they are not misused. The crucial transparent and independent oversight bit hasn't even been discussed let alone offered yet.

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Words to put dread in a sysadmin's heart: 'We are moving our cloud from Windows to Linux'

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Re: Don't go Windows, and if you do, keep your options open

"But the common Enterprise Linux versions like Redhat and Suse actually cost more than Windows Server to license."

Microsoft charged $128* to report a bug in their newfangled NT 3.51, that said they did thrown in the "warranty" for the distribution media for nothing.

*=actually £128, but hey I'm giving their dollar price to show them in the best possible light.

The fact is with a Linux you can run the crown jewels on something like RHEL (and get support), and run something like Centos on everything else (eg: desktops, lappies etc). You can't really do that in the Microsoft ecosystem, there are no competing vendors offering compatible products just 'partners' whose whole business case rests on MS choosing to allow them to exist.

It doesn't stop at the partners either, MS, can actually revoke a license to run your software on instances of their OS on your hardware. I guess if you are in the business of running Microsoft gear you don't see it in those terms, or you believe it'll never happen, or it is a failure your business can survive.

While some folks are in the business of running Microsoft software, other people run software to help them make their businesses more profitable. They *could* choose to take on the $ole Vendor gamble, but instead they choose to hedge their bets with multiple Open Source distribution vendors.

The competition in the Linux market place is stronger, broader (embedded -> top end HPC) and the cost of moving from one vendor to another is tiny compared to moving from MS to *anything* else. I'm not even making this up, MS, their beholden customers and their shills state this as fact in public over and over again, they broadcast it far and wide as if it were a virtue rather than a millstone.

So lots of Microsoft advocates agree that migrating from MS to anything else is cripplingly expensive, and products get EOL'd sooner or later, therefore an MS solution will inevitably be cripplingly expensive. A rational response would be to make sure you don't use MS stuff in the first place, and this is what has been happening over the last decade or so.

More and more new stuff is getting written for Open Source platforms everyday, meanwhile more and more MS stuff is getting decommissioned and replaced with Open Source everyday. Despite it's continued growth Windows has been 'legacy software' for a decade now, it's in it's twilight years in all but branding. Like it or not Open Source is at the foot of a much longer growth curve than the one enjoyed by Windows.

The challenge faced by MS is that Windows doesn't really have a USP beyond being compatible with itself. Don't worry for MS though, they will continue to tax Open Source via patents etc, they will do fine, just don't expect them to make any further contributions to making you richer.

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Re: @AC

"get a good Java programmer who knows how to aggressively recover resources."

Those folks are rarer than hens teeth, and even the "good" ones tend to prioritise quick delivery over runtime performance.

"or better still code in a better language. "

We don't always get to choose what language people write code in... You've been pretty unhelpful tbh. :)

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@AC

"I have done several the other way. Java processes in particular seem to run much better on Windows Server - and are certainly much easier to manage."

Are there any specific things that make managing Java processes on Windows easier ? I haven't really seen any difference - but the kinds of problems I come across are JVMs exploding due to exhausting their heap, or missing resources not showing up until runtime...

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Antares apocalypse: Orbital points finger at turbopump FAIL

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Re: May I humbly say

"The comments were above were genuinely educational and informative. I came away having learned something."

I look at it as a "return to form", it's how the Register *used* to be in the dim and distant past before the shills and alt.flame refugees invaded.

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New GCHQ spymaster: US tech giants are 'command and control networks for TERROR'

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Re: Want more surveillance?

"Sadly for all the 'freedom loving tards' also known as Neville Chamberlain's brothers after 'peace in our time',"

It's easy to put the boot into Neville, but it's far harder to see exactly what Britain could have usefully done in '38 given the state of it's armed forces at the time. A year made a big difference for the better in terms of re-arming. Even then British troops were fighting tanks with entrenching tools, pistols and .303 rifles as they withdrew from Dunkirk...

Tell us genius AC, what would you have done in Neville's place ? Declared war in 1938 and sent troops into Germany armed with shovels & .303s against tanks, 88s & dive bombers ?

I find it ironic that there are so many dipsticks out there who choose to slam Neville, yet turn a blind eye to Preston Bush who was happily appeasing Hitler to the tune of $millions while arguing against the US entering WW2... Why aren't you slamming the tools who buried news of concentration camps and ethnic cleansing because US high society were so anxious to avoid fighting the Nazis ?

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Microsoft now licensing Windows by the user, across multiple devices

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Re: does this fix anything?

"Microsoft have, however, acknowledged that there is a problem. That's flabbergasting. They had fought tooth and nail against admitting there was an issue here since Vista came out.

...could we finally be making a dent?"

At last ! We have discovered a link between roasting shills & change for the better ! We should roast shills more often and more thoroughly for better results, roast on folks... :)

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Re: does this fix anything?

"Licencing departments come up with the most stupid convoluted unnecessary restrictions. What's wrong with one Windows licence per system (physical or virtual) running Windows???????"

That's easy to answer: a simple one license per box doesn't extract as much money from the customers.

If a simple cost-effective licensing regime is a necessity you need to migrate away from Windows, it will never be in Microsoft's interest to make it cheap & easy for a faithful^Wlocked-in customer. :)

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ICANN, ICAN'T, IWON'T: uWHAT? How the internet is actually run

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"Why would the UK DVLA need to be represented at this meeting?"

I'd love to know the reason, it must be awfully important for a high-paid exec type to be excused work in order to fly out to LA. We count as 'the public', and we are interested, so I think that means we're entitled to find out what the reason is under the Freedom of Information Act. :)

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Hey - who wants 4.8 TERABYTES almost AS FAST AS MEMORY?

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"Do you call SPARC M7 vaporware?"

Until it's shipping and Oracle have deigned to publish CINT & CFP for it, I call it vaporware because it is vaporware.

"Well, the M6 server today has 32TB RAM. The largest on the market, by far. The competitors largest servers has half of the memory, and half the number of sockets."

On the other hand you can fit several of these flash cards into a Xeon, for a fraction of the power budget, cost and space, which is handy if you are running a crowded datacentre... Oh and the card would add NON VOLATILE memory, which solves a lot of real problems that folks have right now. Of course the card may suck, and it is also vaporware (like the M7) until it's shipping...

Who knows maybe the lead time will be so huge that the customers will have chosen to spunk $M on M6 & M7s instead of a $K on a few cards. Seems unlikely to me, given that they can slot in FLASH memory cards from other vendors into their Xeons and use several of them if they need more density (system bandwidth constraints are likely to bite)... ;)

I would love the M7 to be a great product, but in my view, given the history of SPARC, the M7 won't be good enough bring in new customers. In other news I've seen some cute figures for unoptimised tight loops running on a POWER8, I think John Cocke would be very proud.

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"If we talk about TB sized RAM caches, what is better than real RAM (which is faster) and more of it than 4TB cache?"

I'm sure people would talk about TB sized RAM caches if they had an application for them...

OTOH there seems to be a lot of people who want to store lots of data and not pay the seek penalty, which is precisely what this card does...

You are making the M7 vaporware look like a solution looking for a problem by trying to scare people off buying a PCI Express card in favour of a few tons of vaporware.

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It's Big, it's Blue... it's simply FABLESS! IBM's chip-free future

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Re: large POWER8 servers are out:

"Bye, bye POWER and AIX. HP has also left the high end server segment. Left is Oracle who is betting

more money than Sun ever did on large Unix servers. "

Hmm, article about IBM going fabless (like SUN, Oracle, MIPS and ARM) and you post the same old FUD about the death of POWER... Are you trying to tell us that fabless = death of an architecture ?

A cynic could be forgiven for concluding that Larry has forgotten to give you new instructions over the past 12 months. I wonder if you will get a new shilling to go with the "Oracle loves Clouds" message ?

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Redmond top man Satya Nadella: 'Microsoft LOVES Linux'

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Re: Microsoft loves linux

One of my favorite cartoon moments, thanks for the memory launcap. :)

That said, I think Nadella reminds me more of Skeletor.

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