211 posts • joined Monday 4th June 2007 09:05 GMT
Irrational article - Andrew
Its a fact that smartphones are the norm now. You could then call all the past feature phones landfill by the same definition. Its still an evolving technology.
If China can sell good smartphones (androids) at around £80 levels profitably, it just lays bare the well known cliche that Apple and Samsung have ripped (and still are) off consumers for all they are worth by slick marketing.
It also proves the dictum that a good smartphone need not cost the earth, as Apple/Samsung would like to make us believe. At 5 times the cost, one is never going to get 5 times the phone ! (except snob value and bragging rights).
REMF - Lol
Wouldnt it be more appropriate to expand it as " Rear End Mother Fuckers" ?
Echelon sounds too polite !
Egg Shaped is not Pear Shaped !
Well done India.
Out of eggs comes chikcen, who will come home to roost on Mars amid a lot of squawking from disgruntled naysayers.
Thats all folks.
Brand and links please?
I told you so.......
Prices have risen and CS is pants.
The shareholders are already baying for ROI.
Has it occured to anyone?
Such mega takeovers are in no ones interest, cos it ultimately the punters who end up paying for the privileged few !
Prove me wrong.
Re: Mais attendez!
Oui monsieur, we missed a barbequed frog dinner!
Americans are a wasteful lot, innit?
What are they selling?
Seriously, it seems the whole marketing is based on the Camera specs. WTF? Are they selling a camera with a phone slapped on as an afterthought? Or Vice versa?
Can it make calls?
IF you really need a goood camera, why cant you just buy one and have the rest of the phone as a separate entity?
ANd they will also chareg upwards of £500 for thsi privilege.
The biggest hackers are ......
..in their own backyards !
NSA and FSB.
And extremely slow !
I now receive more spam than ever before, wonder why. Maybe Ms. Mayer, having the Google DNA has decided to advert/spam everything she touches. Yahoo users are in for a torrid time.
Ditch him whlst still have some time.
So whay cant the Nokia Board still ditch him and change course?
OR are they awestruck by MS marketing money and staring at the sinkhole already?
Strange are this corporate ways (american arrogance). WOnder who are the major fund/shareholders who can perhaps twist a few arms?
Be prepared for the worst
This is what highly leveraged takeovers do. Never in the consumer's interest.
The new overlords wants a return on their investments, and this is one way they start in cost controls and hopefully sell more/better/faster data!
Capitalism, 21 century style. Someone buys and everyone pays. (Bankers involved).
Re: Yahoo stinks
Can you kinldy elaborate the process of this blocking bits? Much appreciated.
That they have not yet blamed the Islamist terrorists' plot behind1 this.
One more reason to crack the whip and an additional law passed for the security services and snooping agencies.
How can you omit
The Tattooed White van man (& how to avoid confrontation)
U turn politicians ( a la Nick Clegg ). Wonder if his Spanish wife would pass the test..
Most of the Scots would fail the test too.
Beer swilling, pot bellied , foul mouthed wankers leaving the pubs every night.
..They still are and ought to remain.
Frogs wanting to be princes, with our money.
And yeah, we might be pleasntly surpised at this new offering with the LTE speeds and Hardware specs.
WIll make a refreshing change from I-snobs and Fandroids duopoly.
Will be called "Nokiastas" The word is now copyrighted.
Come to think of it, I wanted to send an IBM PC in 1987 (a very basic model, not even windows) to a Tanzanian associate trading office, and had to get a Licence from Department of Trade to "export" it.
The time and paperwork involved was horrendous.
In my opinion.
Dont you guys....
......want to talk about Birds & Bees ? Even the Galaxies and stars have to reproduce and grow !
Shouldnt it be cheaper....
..at about £150 at the most, now that these phones are commoditised?
IF Huawei could do the San Francisco at 100 (OLED screen mind you) at £100 more than year ago, surely Samsung could do better?
Greedy bastards I'd say.
Manu T. The article is about Nokias products and its downfall.
In my opinion, the slide started with the N97, which was touted and advertised as the ultimate in smartphone ( no its a computer in your pocket or some such blrub) and the advertising budget of a third world country's annual GDP.
AND the issue highlighted is the sheer arrogance and disdain displayed by Nokia, when problems arose, in keeping pushing it (assuming consumers were idiots who would keep buying no matter what the faults - another insult, taken for mugs/ granted).
The device may be buried, but not forgotten by us, who bore the brunt of the company's cynical lies, stonewalling and outright deceit, after paying a high price for the product.
As much as you love Symbian (good for a basic phone), theres scores of us , who have been abolsutely riled by Nokia in pretending that SYmbian s60 was the ultimate in smartphone OS, and without remorse.
And the majority of people are NOT INTERESTED in making their own apps. ( you sound just like Nokia management now)
They only want what is offered to "just work" !
And thats the point.
I can relate to the N97 failure personally. WIfi was either flaky or non-existent. (changed the handset 3 times). Customer services pants. They only reflashed the firmware 3 times and returned as "fixed" (and waited a week each time). Nokia PC suit software buggy as always. Took ages to recognise phone. OVi store. another nightmare in browsing and having phone recognised for any meaningful download.
Setting up APN a nightmare through connections programe involving many, many steps.
And finally manged to browse through mobile Data plan (no wifi) , well one knows the UI.
One replacement was a refurbished/returned one with a different back case on the back ( Black and white body!).
Thats when got the epiphany, as to how arrogant and out of touch , this company became.
To top it, they brought in Elop whose mission is slash and burn.
Way to go, shareholders and cleanse the board.
Its an abject management lesson in "race to the bottom" and how one man can destroy the most esteemed company in a mtter of few months.
I would put it down to unbridled greed and lack of training to staff.
Pay peanuts...get monkeys.
And yes, the extended warranty scam whereby they reaped billions over the years, playing on the insecurity of sincere buyers. Never invested a penny of it in extra training and product promotions, hoping punters will just keep coming in, ready to be fleeced.
Best Buy wanted a slice of the pie and spectacularly failed, instead of piling em high and selling em cheap, which ws thier mojo back in States. Fry's is doing ok though, due to prices.
Pcworld still seliing USB cables at £24.99. WHat hope , then?
Deserve to fail.
You guys dont get it
Its publicity on the cheap.
Dont you know, ANy publicity is good publicity?
Who'd have thought that T-Mobile have suddenly become more charitable and altruistic?
Any other way I can really wind up Rupert and James? Please post links in The Register.
BTW any latest figures on how his paywall is working with The Times? How many subscribers still left?
Would be interesting reading.
How about hacking it? Any procedures ?
What was that?
The last para is the icing on the cake " ..we stop working with them".
Tell t his to the dead wrokers family!
Well written article. There is something about big business, where the top management never sees the impending disaster in full frontal view of it approaching.
Is it arrogance? I think so.
Some examples: Titanic (the ship), GE (of Britain), ICI (of Britain), British Steel, Amstrad, Nokia, HP (getting there), Motorola (nearly died), RIM (Blackberry- launch of tethered playbook with no ecosytem),.......one can add more.
A nice race to the bottom.
Takes away Kindles thunder. I'll prefer it anytime to Kindle Fire!
When does it come to blighty? And prices?
How about Thorium?
There was an article in LEreg a few weeks ago about its safety as well and abundance.
The Greens would approve of it and a test case to moon (unmanned) would be utterly feasible as a prototype.
Economy size ?
Uk Economy "half the size" ?
SUrely some mistake there? What yardstick is used for that comparison?
Great (Brit) Aint
At least they can do it.
Whereas in London, they cant even set it up in the underground, let alone elsewhere, even with the money being offered by Huawei.
Surely, we are doing (not) something wrong here , even with the Olympics within the year!
Means hope in Hindi ! How appropriate. They need all the Asha sales to keep afloat. And more of the Asha (hope).
Still stinks for the sheer pointlessness
Surely, there are better IT angle-less stories abounding around, then. How come The Register UK managed to find THIS ONE in the middle of nowhere in a small town Kentucky place, perhaps reported in a nondescript local tabloid beats me.
eg Dale farm Travellers/ protestors pitching tent for 10 years , when they are supposed to be "Travellers" because petrol prices hitting them high and road taxes unaffordable.
David Cameroon slashed IT budgets and I ended up chewing the innards of my monitor mixed with my lunchtime fix out of sheer frustration.
I met Gordon Brown in my dreams telling me he is saving the world and I also got delusional as well thinking about it!
Paris, becasue even she can make a point or two!
Could have spiced it up even better.
Me too - Nostalgia
Just like Nokia waking up one day and decides to open OVI STORE.
Half baked ideas being bandied about by unthinking executives. These guys are so arrogant in their ignorance that just becasue Apple succeeded, they would too , not realising that Apple had the whole ecosystem in place,whereas Voda guys thought people love them, their brand and their meagre offerings more than Apple, AND will rake them billions.
Is that an IT story at all? IS it worthy of mention here?
Sometimes, you guys just dont make sense, in such a forum/portal ... whatever you call it.
There are more interesting stories in US tabloids if you troll enough, then. Just dont foist it uppon us , here in UK.
When will it come to fruition ?
Bet the Telcos are chuckling already, safe in the knowledge that they can keep screwing and milking customers till the cows come home!
He upped the bar for all the consumer products we enjoy today. (eg. Mp3 players , phones, Pods, Pads et al)
Even The Register will be a duller place, flamers have no whipping boy and punching bag ( No Sarcasm intended) .
Thanks for everything, Steve. Will miss ya! :(
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