1207 posts • joined Friday 30th July 2010 07:39 GMT
Re: For the love of God please stop posting about the humorous ! afer every word in Yahoo articles
"I! Like! Them!"
So! do! I! A! useful! conversation! piece! A! way! of! stirring! up! the! moaners! !
I.T.'s! the! only! way!
The need for landmarks is well known. They are good for the hippocampus. Besides, this is almost the IT equivalent of a nudge-nudge joke.
I'd like to know how he became a journalist, how long it took and how much effort went into becoming one.
OTOH, I suppose I could reshape the lines cynically uttered by an 'artist' when interviewed by David Frost; "It's art if I say it is".
The 'emperor' has no clothes.
Re: @AC. It has nothing to do w being squeaky clean...
"Poor Julian needs to grow up. (how many adult males skip down the street like a giddy school girl?)"
His demeanour has always been of interest:
“One night, when they were all walking down the street after dinner, Assange suddenly started skipping ahead of the group,” Keller recounts. “Schmitt and Goetz stared, speechless. Then, just as suddenly, Assange stopped, got back in step with them and returned to the conversation he had interrupted.”
The next one has a twist to it. I have it filed in the H:\[...]\Wikileaks\Sex and personality\ directory:
"Yesterday an American reporter said the day Assange arrived in Sweden, Wednesday, August 11, he went out to dinner at Stockholm’s Beirut restaurant with the WikiLeaks Swedish co-ordinator, the co-ordinator’s girlfriend, and the journalist and his English girlfriend.
The journalist claims Assange, 39, ignored him and instead focused intently on his girlfriend, even following her out for a cigarette. He said: ‘When they hadn’t come back after 45 minutes I went to see what was happening.
‘They were standing very close together a little way down the street, and Julian was whispering in her ear.’
The journalist later saw his girlfriend and Assange walking hand in hand, and claimed that when he challenged the WikiLeaks founder, ‘he dropped into a classic fighter’s pose, with his fists up’.
He said: ‘Assange seemed to take pleasure in humiliating me.’ The writer slept alone that night.
Assange went on to meet Miss A and Miss W, both of whom he is accused of molesting."
Cultural relativism has never been a part of my epistemological diet.
Plato held the position that there are absolute truths. The difficulty with cultural relativism is that, for example, under such an analysis capital punishment is entirely acceptable among cultures that believe it is a valid form of truth, and the same of course would apply to male (which also happens) or female genital mutilation. I laugh my arse off when I hear feminists, Marxists, socialists/Labour party members spouting cultural relativism, which really is the death trap of all thinking. However, and unlike bible bashers, they do at least try to find some form of truth, just not an objective one.
Rer: An award?
"An award for the man who's organisation today published the names and addresses of the remaining seven Jews in Baghdad?"
"Assange-the-hero vanished somewhere in that antisemitic and antifeminist slime. Sweden's relatively high measure of sexual equality and consciousness in gender questions is a matter of national pride. That a dodgy hacker from Australia started knocking it was not popular.
Not even the culture pages of Aftonbladet, which kept up their uncritical admiration for Assange longer than anyone else, can keep it up now. The noted leftwing commentator Dan Josefsson admitted recently that Assange was not the radical hero he had supposed, but "a solitary and shabby libertarian who wants to tear down democratic societies". "
"Julian Assange, the 39-year-old Australian behind the extraordinary leaks of US diplomatic cables and documents, told The Times that he believed the allegations and the publicity surrounding them were unfounded and motivated by “a mixture of revenge, money, and police pressure.”
He said: “All sorts of abusive statements were made against the Jewish people in the 1950s and before.
"I'm not the Jewish people, but the people who believe in freedom of speech and accountability [are in the same position].” "
Except to note that the net has been ripe with observations on Assange and antisemitism for months, no further comment is necessary.
Re: Pity that Mr Assange is not, say, a Chinese citizen,
Assange has actually put something similar to that rumour about, among many others:
"The name Assange is thought to derive from Ah Sang, or Mr. Sang, a Chinese émigré who settled on Thursday Island, off the coast of Australia, in the early eighteen-hundreds, and whose descendants later moved to the continent. Assange’s maternal ancestors came to Australia in the mid-nineteenth century, from Scotland and Ireland, in search of farmland, and Assange suspects, only half in jest, that his proclivity for wandering is genetic."
" Equally bizarre was his response to her questions about his unusual surname. He told Brooke: "Some people think it's French or African. My mother is French. My grandfather was a Taiwanese pirate."
When Brooke refused to believe the pirate story, Assange seemed hurt, telling her: "He was a pirate and landed on Thursday Island where he met and married a Thursday Islander woman. They went to Queensland." "
"He's being ironic, right?"
Ya can have a right ol' shindig down at the Walkleys cobber, an' no mistake:
What we most of all like to do is have a few glasses of the amber nectar before going up on stage, and then having a physical confrontation to decide on matters epistemological:
"Australian journalism's most prestigious night descended into chaos when Glenn Milne physically and verbally attacked rival journalist Stephen Mayne live on stage at the 2006 Walkley Awards.
As presenter Mayne prepared to present an award to Morgan Mellish of The Australian Financial Review, a "red-faced" and "seemingly intoxicated" Milne lurched onto the stage before launching a tirade of verbal abuse at Mayne; Milne then lunged at Mayne and pushed him off the stage, screaming at Mayne that he was "a disgrace"."
Oh yeah, we 'journalists' sure know how to do things in style. ;-)
Hoyle set the arguments out in mathematical detail, and I have yet to read a better account:
As to yellow cake, we would have been mining it in the Orkney islands but for protests by the like of Eleanor Bron, and I have to ask myself why it is that we are so damned stupid about the matter. Coal has killed many people and has wasted large areas of Scandinavian forestry by means of sulphur emissions, to say nothing of the other political and economic considerations. We either institute a safe energy policy or we suffer. Listen to the screeching if we do nothing. People will want blood.
Re: I'm curious about this statement
The Japanese are already doing trials on this:
I have no idea why Chris Huhne has done so little with it. After all, this is a form of renewable energy that is reliable. It only takes a few acres of land.
Re: Why there were no teachers like her when you were at school
"In those days, the job carried some dignity and was a position of authority. That's all been stripped away now."
That is a part of the current controversy, for sure, and it is the case that class room discipline does have a tendency to break down where professional boundaries are eroded. This is one of the more obvious forms of such erosion, all of which add to a classroom culture where pupils feel free to be aggressive, demanding [...], you name it. A climate of anything goes, and all because there is a tendency of teachers to behave like someone else in the playground. It is interesting to see in the US reports that pupils at the school spoke negatively about what she'd done.
All professions have a set of ethics; it is probably written into both the appropriate professional ethics and contract of employment that this individual would not bring the profession, school and self into disrepute by means of behaviour that is incompatible with the professional role. Certainly when teachers represent themselves as sexual objects they are changing the nature of their professional status and relationship with the client group.
Some people have responded with the predictable 'phwoah' class of responses, which detracts from the claims of another group of people in society; those who, as young boys, were sexually abused by women. The classic feminist response tends, sadly, to be along the lines of 'they enjoy it'. You'll notice this is the classic male paedophile claim about the children they have abused; in fact it is the classic response of any paedophile and any fellow traveller, conscious or not of the proximity of their position to that of the paedophile.
I'm not suggesting the woman is a paedophile, or even an ehebophile, but the woman has been sailing very close to the wind, and her business interests stand in direct conflict with her professional ones. Had she continued unhampered I'd not be surprised to have read that she would have undergone a sexual relationship with one of her pupils.
Re: A little context is needed here...
Doesn't make good headlines though. These days even Auntie Beeb is preoccupied with the task of constructing tabloid one liners. Fortunately for me I am a good cook and the taste and smell of my labours destroys these things. :-)
Stop minimising his offences and conviction; he was convicted on 25 counts (for very serious offences) and, as we can now see, the sentence was a gross mistake. As I've indicated previously, early offences are good predictors of later ones, and Assange is a lesson here; his current round includes fencing stolen secrets, including his (to understate the case) egregious edit of the helicopter incident. He should have been extradited for his hostile acts on Pentagon hardware, and there were others: "Police also found details of hundreds of stolen passwords for networks around the world along with the dates when he obtained them. Among them were passwords for the US Air force 7th Command Group in the Pentagon." Assange also hacked computers to monitor the Australian Federal Police investigation into *his* criminal activities, after which he said to the judge "Your honour, I feel a great misjustice [sic] has been done and I would like to record the fact that you have been misled by the prosecution"
Me suggesting? I have made no suggestion, but I can tell you that there is no visible legal, technical reason why his extradition ought not to go ahead, though I am sure that he will continue to hold open air weepy sessions to curry favour and replace his diminishing band of supporters. Moreover, attempting to read what is going on in the black box is for people who believe in Cracker, fairies at the bottom of the garden and mediums. You cannot. No one can. It is impossible. The nearest that you can get to this is in reading behavioural data in meat space and inferring by analogy. That's forensic speak (see my earlier comments on John Locke for a clarification on that term, should you need it).
Furthermore his magnum opus would appear to consist of various ways of stealing information (for which he was convicted) and then fencing it (ostensibly when taken by Bradley Manning, whom he has left to the wolves, excluding a minimal defence fund contribution) whilst claiming ownership; the proposed pay wall, the 'auto' biography (released because, in spite of his cold feet, he had signed an agreement and had *taken* an advance fee from the publisher which they were entitled to recoup). Indeed, when the Guardian started publishing some of the data his hissy fit was of massive proportions, because he believed them to be 'his'; oh no Jules, the data belong to the original owners, not to you. In addition the Americans should have extradited him at the time of his first offence, since this was a substantial criminal offence (a predictor) committed on their servers by a man who can certainly not claim that he was hunting UFO data.
To understand more about him you might want to read the things that he written and said, including his tart comments about the expendability of informants in Afghanistan, who presumably may eat cake.
Bradley Manning? A few crumbs from the Assange table to help defray some legal costs, that's all. Plausible deniability, as with international power politics/real politik, the very sort of thing he supposedly opposes. One cannot make a Wikiomelette without cracking informant heads. After all, did Jules himself not say of the Afghan informants that they chose? Here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351927/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-new-book-Afghan-informants-deserve-killed.html
"Assange's apparent gung-ho attitude in an early meeting to naming U.S. informants stunned his media collaborators, the new book claimed.
The title said he told international reporters: 'Well, they're informants so, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it.' The book continues: 'There was, for a moment, silence around the table.'"
Well that's a good predictor where Manning's health is concerned.
Re: @AC 23:03
' "The reality is Julian has yet to be charged with any sort of crime and the UK is still extraditing him. How is that even possible?"
Umm... because its actually a US extradition treaty. For which no proof of anything is required. Another wonderful example of British justice. '
Both wrong; it is a European arrest warrant; he cannot be extradited from Sweden without prior UK approval, he will be charged under Swedish law, as he would have been had he not left the country; his Swedish lawyer knew that the police wanted to interview him prior to charging him (and magically found text from them whilst testifying in a UK court, having prior denied contact (tsk, not very professional), so this is well witnessed); by bizarre coincidence (?), not long after the police informed his Swedish lawyer of their requirement, Assange disappeared and then reappeared as if by magic in the UK. (It's like playing whack-a-mole). The appropriate Swedish regulatory/professional body want a chat with his (now it would seem former) lawyer. So Assange would have been charged had he not flown the jurisdiction, and the arrest warrant is a European arrest warrant that has nothing to do with the US, which is sitting patiently, sharpening a scythe, digging up the dirt.. ..waiting for the day Jules is discharged, under whatever circumstances.
Re: " the House of Lords, the UK’s partially-elected upper house, "
"That's news to me."
ISTR that, during Liebour's faux reformation of the upper chamber, some members of the House of Lords were quite literally elected by their peers! That really does take the Toni Bler biscuit.
Re: What a waste of time and money
Yes, and in case you hadn't noticed the mother is the same. I wonder what she said about his 25 odd convictions in Australia, especially those for hacking a Pentagon computer and the Australian police force that was investigating him. Twenty years later and it is a matter of plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Bye-bye Jules. Don't let the door bang you on the arse on your way out.
Re: Ah, the Internet
"Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents."
...and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri are /real/ small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
RE: Sounds vaguely like....
Well a bit, but definitely more like Orwell's 'thought crime'. I think it became quite vogue from 1997 onward.
Which leads to several other points. 1) ephebophilia is not paedophilia, 2) the laws on sexual intercourse and age in the UK were changed during Victorian times due to the number of child prostitutes and the campaigning activities of a reformer, 3) there are countries where sexual intercourse with people younger than 16 is legal, 4) biology has the habit of making 'children' sexually active/mature/capable of reproduction.
Genuine paedophilia is genuinely repugnant. Genuine mistakes are genuinely sad. In between there are many points of debate that I have seen elicit immature responses from Reg readers, possibly trolls, who have made unsavoury accusations that have been deleted by moderators.
For sure I'd like to see that part of the criminal justice system involved explain and justify themselves in full glare, and I'd like to see the blackmailer dealt with severely, also in full glare; it was clearly using a sensitive topic to raise money in a targeted manner. People whose blackmail practise is targeted, selective, deliberate are among the lowest of creatures. This is the lowest and most disgusting form of entrapment, and entrapment is very definitely a form of recruitment.
Shucks, this is no better than the 'drive by witnessing' notoriously found in the McMartin controversy, now found to be utterly false; never mention that someone has committed a crime and then appeal for fresh witnesses, because plenty will probably turn up, many of them not genuine. It is a form of recruitment that PACE was intended to stop, and yet here the police are behaving in a manner that conflicts with their training and regulations.
OK, but just one small point here; it can alter routers (not windows machines)? I'd like to know more about that as it is causing me a little discomfort, for obvious reasons. How does it attack router settings?
Re: Understatement of the year
Well, like Dame Edna Everage she's moist too. ;-)
Shit happens when you party naked, and Jules knew that he was a partying-oh.
Re: The Usual Tabloid Politics About Immigration
"Sorry. Typical bloody left wing too. It's one area in which... Sorry, it's one of the areas in which they are all as bad as each other."
It is unwise to so typify opposition to increasing the population of one of the most densely populated countries in an over populated world. We are not self sufficient in food (production decreased by 5% since the cold war 'ended'), we are not self sufficient in energy (which is a dwindling resource), we are not self sufficient in fertilisers (peak phosphate has been passed, and Morocco is the main producer), and our water resources are subject to drought, both because of over consumption and because of climate change. Thus we have increasingly lower reservoirs, and we find that farmers are increasingly not allowed to use river water for irrigation purposes.
Worse still, by continually building more houses and the support systems these require (roads, shops, hospitals, car parks [...]) we further restrict the trickle down of water into underground aquifers at the same time as increasing the probability of flooding, of which we have seen a lot of late.
We were overpopulated at the beginning of the last century.
As to being 'typically left wing', it is not; even after the last election, when they were under no illusions about the opposition to their immigration policies, Labour conference attenders were remarking on their disappointment that the agenda was not more 'internationalist', that they wanted to see more immigration. That's left wing for you; rooted in fantasy island thinking, rather than based on the reality that we have to reduce the population of this world, and thus of the more densely populated parts of it, or we will die due to over consumption of resources.
Demonising people by describing their opposition to their country being over populated as attributable to a political view is not merely politically dangerous (because the implication is that they are racist) but is also dangerous in terms of the survival of a national group:
"[...] in my view, mass migration and the management of immigration is now the greatest challenge facing all European governments. We have to get away from the notion that anyone who wants to talk about this issue is somehow a racist; they are not, they are intelligent, ordinary people who are interested in the future of their own country"
Dr John Reid, UK Home Secretary, in a speech at DEMOS on 9 August, now gone from the cache but partly quoted here:
I have yet to see anyone offer any kind of a priori or a posteriori proof that opposition to immigration is racist, 'right wing'. It appears to me to be thoughtless, when thought is very definitely the order of the day. Otherwise, for catch all thinking, -11 out of 10
What causes me bitter laughter is the last government's dual track policies of a) immigration, because immigration is good for business and brings in well educated specialists, and b) education, education, education. The former course of action swelled our population by some 7.27%; while the latter course of action was supposed to swell the number of professionals we have (remember the lead time is now definitely swallowed up by 14 or more years of edjcation, edjacation, edjcation) and still we have problems with shortages of professionals. The previous government either lied or did not know WTH it was doing to this country, though I'm not yet suggesting this one is necessarily an improvement.
Aside from anything else, this country is one of the most densely populated in an overpopulated world; it is not self sufficient in food and energy, and we have recently seen increases in water shortages, especially where rivers have run dry and farmers have not been able to use them for irrigation purposes.
Too many people. Too many idiot politicians.
Too many releases for developers of add on components to keep up. I install portable versions into a True Crypt container for trialling and am not impressed and, I am ineffably sad to say, I find myself creeping across the desktop to use IE for some sites.
Yeah that too, all of it! What made me laugh most of all was the self righteous behaviour of the opposition, who allowed millions in, and furthermore allowed silly legislation to get in the way of our human rights, namely allowing the hook and other mad twats to preach murder and mayhem
If there is such a thing as the devil I conjure him up now; get the to HQ Labour Shaitan, and deal with them.
It also causes blindness, particularly in children where they play on public recreational facilities, where animals unsurprisingly defecate frequently. Other things that correlate very well with schizophrenia are a small but significant excess of winter births, cytomegalovirus antibody titres and of course the genetic component. There is an interesting line of research into the stronger forms of cannabis which, especially when accompanied by alcohol, seem to have a strong relationship with the illness. However it has to be remembered that the role of 5-HT in the genesis of hallucinations is important, and that is why the Dopaminergic hypothesis of schizophrenia is lacking, because DA does not of itself cause hallucinations.
It's interesting that Parkinsonism is preceded (in statistically very significant numbers) by tobacco aversion in early life, and the 'why' is probably complex; Yong and Perry found that hydrazines - a by product/metabolite of tobacco consumption - insulate nerve tissue and prevent free radicals from destroying it; free rads are implicated in the destruction of the appropriate basal ganglia (substantia nigra, e.g.) thus causing Parkinsonism. Free rads are commonly found in such things as naturally occurring pyridines, such as 4-phenylpyridine which is found in peppermint or spearmint tea, and follow from metabolising weed killers such as cyperquat and paraquat (probably now banned) containing substances resembling 1-methyl-4-phenyl-1,2,3,6-tetrahydopyridine (MPTP, which metabolises to MPDP+ and then MPP+, which then releases H+,H2O2, superoxide), which causes a form of Parkinsonism. Pre-treatment of nigro-striatal neurones protects them from the free rads released by MPTP.
It will probably not have escaped the reader's attention that hydrazines appear to somehow stimulate, potentiate or otherwise accelerate hyperkinetic behaviours, even in so called 'normal' kids.
Most authors feel it's multifactorial. Indeed, the overlap between PD and childhood disorders involving hyperkinesis and cognitive disorders shows something fascinating; whereas the motor components of the basal ganglia in these children are overactive and in the adults are underactive, cognitive areas of the brain in both instances are hypoactive, a condition which responds to Dopamine precursors and stimulants which cause the Dopaminergic sub system to become more active. Yes, you've guessed it correctly, the D-amphetamines speed up cognition in both categories of individual. Interestingly the Dopamine precursor L-DOPA used to treat Parkinsonism can precipitate psychotic behaviour, and patients are frequently put on 'drugs holidays'; similarly, anti psychotic medications have been dogged by a history of Parkinsonian 'side effects' (there is no such thing, only effects) but drugs holidays are not the strategy of choice; a change of drug, particularly for the newer ones which, one by one, each demonstrate problems of their own or even Parkinsonian type effects ('tardive dyskinesia').
Take nothing for granted; consuming drugs can be bad for your health, as can the chemicals we put into the environment, and alcohol destroys large areas of brain and causes memory loss to the point where new memories disappear within minutes of being formed. GIGO.
This was only done in respect of EU travellers not non EU travellers, though how they can tell the difference without first checking a passport defeats me.
I saw Frost interview Emin once; when asked, her response was that it's art because she says so.
Re: Zero. I.e. nothing.
I haven't laughed so much since Tracey Emin's tent and sleeping bag went up in flames. In fact I wanted the aftermath to have a preservation order stuck on it (there's a pun about stuckism here), and hope the museum rodents manage to leave a pellet of shit or two in the thing.
Re: "services to business"
'Me and my girl, putting it about' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mZXNnAzzVI
For once the Python sketch on photographs taken on holiday seems to be appropriate.
Re: Deja vu all over again
"These are irrefutable facts.
That he was allowed to depart Sweden and to enter the UK, it is a not unreasonable assumption that the Swedish police were not sufficiently interested to flag him, and similarly, that the UK authorities were equally uninterested in this matter."
How many times does the following chain have to be cited to stop people like you misrepresenting the facts: 1) The Swedish police tell Assange's legal counsel that they want to interview him preparatory to charging him, 2) soon after Assange mysteriously disappears and resurfaces in the UK, 3) Assange's legal counsel denies in a UK court that he'd heard from the police but, in court, on reviewing the contents of his mobile phone decides to play safe and confesses that he DID in fact hear from the Swedish plod.
This is on the record, especially the last bit. How come you missed it?
Re: Another amazing quote from Assange
Thank you for putting into words something that has been plaguing me for months. In a word, this man has demonstrated beyond all doubt that he is a duplicitous hypocrite. Time for that beer I think.
WTH? Case law? You certainly are not a lawyer; this has nothing to do with case law. Rather it has to do with the case of a man who fled the jurisdiction shortly after his Swedish counsel was advised that the Swedish police wanted to interview Assange preparatory to charging him. The only question here is not case law, but have they prepared their case properly, and has the man fled jurisdiction. Case law is nothing to do with the matter, and your cynicism would appear to have blinded your intellect to the facts, but that seems to be a common phenomenon where the convict , Assange, is concerned.
 Convicted in or around 1991 for 25 counts, including; 1) stealing passwords from US Air force 7th Command Group in the Pentagon; 2) for hacking computers at two universities; 3) hacking computers at two telecommunications companies; 4) hacking computers to monitor the Australian Federal Police investigation into *his* criminal activities.
After sentencing he said to the judge "Your honour, I feel a great misjustice [sic] has been done and I would like to record the fact that you have been misled by the prosecution".
I expect much more to become public property, including the curious case of the 16 year old mother of his son.
For the nth time, Assange's counsel was advised they wanted him for questioning and to charge him. Assange very soon after disappeared and resurfaced in the UK; that is absconding. The Swedish CJS simply want justice to take its course, as it would have had Assange not fled the jurisdiction. As it is he has made himself the villain of the piece, even though he may claim otherwise. He lacks credibility, as do all absconders. He ought to be fined for evading justice, not suing. Absolutely not.
Re: @AC puleeez give me a break.
Exactly. I am relieved that he is going back to the jurisdiction he fled, so conveniently after the Swedish police informed his counsel that he was to be interviewed and arrested. All this BS about the EAW misses the point that on grounds of absconding alone he must go back. So I am going out for a pint tonight. I advise Jules to buy a few bottles of English beer whilst he has the chance. It may be that he only be able to dream of the stuff for a couple for the next couple of years. Unless of course the Swedish CJS gives him a public lathering and expels him, declaring him persona non grata, stripping him of his few remaining assets.
Re: Sweden not his final stop
"If he get extridited to Sweden he'll end up in a US jail."
Wrong. The Swedes have said they will not extradite him to the US without prior approval from the UK. The UK not extradite for a capital offence.
He did not ask. He absconded. His lawyer was told that the police wanted to question him and he magically disappeared. Later, at one of his appearances in court, his Swedish advocate claimed he'd not heard anything from the police, only to later confess in court that he had just found a text from them dating back to the crucial period, saying they wanted him to report.
As to the US, the Swedes have made it abundantly clear that the UK would have to agree on any putative extradition to the US from Sweden, and the UK does not allow extradition for capital offences. These data have been mulled over many times, and I am surprised that people are bringing up old, withered and burned chestnuts in the face of public iterations by Swedish and UK officials.
The man must attend court.
Re: The Unknown Pythagorean Theorem
"The self righteous run with ever increasing speed in ever decreasing concentric circles until they finally disappear up their own arseholes."
It reminds me of the things that double jointed people can do to entertain themselves.
Re: The Common Sense Approach...
"...is to keep R&D suystems isolated from the Internet; if they cannot find it on hacking into the public-facing system, they can't nick it, after all. yes, it's a simple approach, but hells bells, it was engineers who came up with KISS, after all"
In precisely that way, when I started using Demon Internet 20 years ago their customer data servers were on a private intranet with absolutely no link to the wider internet. Reading about (e.g.) US armed forces being 'hacked' I am always surprised. Not to excuse Msrs McKinnon and Assange's informants, but how the *hell* could this be possible in the first place. There should be no link at all to the 'internet', DARPA heritage or not
"Proof positive that Apple care about your security."
But Apple products do not have security problems. Security problems are for Pee Cee's! If only Steve Jobs were here to answer a few questions about this.
Yes. The sad part of it was the children present on the picket line, chanting 'pefiles out, pefiles out'.
Here's another for you; a 'paedophile' (actually it was an ehebophile [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia ], the girl was 15) and the girl with whom he had sexual relations were both killed. Vigilantes in the area (Newcastle, ISTR) torched his house, she was in it. There is NEVER any justification for vigilantism, and there is certainly never a justification for judicial murder, whether administered by vigilantes or the state. Capital punishment cannot be undone if an individual is innocent, and I again cite the case of Stefan Kiszko ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Molseed http://www.innocent.org.uk/cases/stefankiszko/index.html ), and countless other cases where capital sentencing would have been enacted for, e.g., murder of one adult by another.
I am appalled but unsurprised by some of the responses here, which appear to be of an unreflective, issue driven nature. I have worked in forensic psychiatry, I have found paedophiles to be manipulative, wily and unpleasant. Indeed, one of them set up an attack on me, but I can never condone vigilantism on them, as much as my blood boiled when I was attacked. Yes I did want to hit him, hard.
Re: @AC 22:11
"What really irritates is those cases where the Met knew the card had not been used by the owner (in one case, evidence that card user lived in russia) but withheld this information from the prosecution to "improve" the case against known innocents."
This is what I was earlier alluding to in another post. I would have thought that most posters in Reg fora would have the wisdom to know that there is always the risk of ID theft, and you're right; "when you assume you make an ass out of u and me"! (Not you, of course.)
"Naming, shaming, and bludgeoning with a baseball bat... more like."
Yes, there have been instances where this has happened, and there have been instances where innocent people have been murdered or maimed. That is why appropriate use of the criminal justice system is truly the only way forward. They may convict innocent people, sure, but the maximum they can do does not entail loss of life or limb. There are no levels of undo once the physical is dished out by people who 'think' they know that someone is guilty.
The case of Stefan Kiszko ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Molseed ) illustrates the problem. Worse still, the poor man died after his conviction was overturned (prison is not conducive to fitness and longevity) and his mother not long after gave up the ghost. It is one of the saddest cases. The case was bungled by the police from start to finish and I wonder if it was partly deliberate. Certainly failure to comply with current guidelines did not help, and his brief compounded their error by also bungling it. As to whether or not he did it, he could not have; the biological evidence is irrefutable. If I said the coppers involved deserve smacking by baseball bat I'd be guilty of making the mistake contained in your post, and it is very definitely a mistake. No civilian should ever be judge, jury and executioner, and people who think they are ought to be prosecuted if they act on such a belief.
Re: Operation Ore
"And the cops (everywhere) did such a good job on that one."
It's difficult to tell if there is irony behind these words. However, it is the case that one or two instances of false allegations arose out of Op Ore. I'm on the road at the moment, but I have the data. Some people have commented on plod's inefficiencies (I can agree) and have applauded 'vigilante' attacks. This is so difficult. Once upon a time (20 years or so back) we were self policed, and Plod had even less of a clue, but the relative cluelessness of plod does not justify tampering. What to do is a difficult question.
- Geek's Guide to Britain BT Tower is just a relic? Wrong: It relays 18,000hrs of telly daily
- Product Round-up Smartwatch face off: Pebble, MetaWatch and new hi-tech timepieces
- Review: Sony Xperia SP
- Geek's Guide to Britain The bunker at the end of the world - in Essex
- Dell's PC-on-a-stick landing in July: report