Re: Looks like an ash tray
I don't think a large enough percentage of Apple's profits came from the Mac Pro line for it to bother Wall Street very much.
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I don't think a large enough percentage of Apple's profits came from the Mac Pro line for it to bother Wall Street very much.
>This design smacks of engineers trying to do "we're Apple and we're so cutting edge cool and over the top
At first glance, maybe.
They could have retained the triangular thermal chimney concept and yet made it Tolberone-shaped... but then people would be tempted to place it on its side which would prevent the convection from working.
On a second look, it appears that they have actually put some thought into it.
That one one of the issues with the G4 Cube, though 3rd parties tried to remedy it.
Another issue with the Cube was that being flat and fanless, its top made an inviting surface on which to place pieces of paper, with less than ideal thermal consequences.
I feel ashamed that my Futurama knowledge has been exposed as deficient. I shall have to rectify that soon! Cheers!
>>> You certainly wouldn't get better performance from internal cards ...
Is a statement about the external cards, not the bus they are connected to... though thank you for giving us the numbers because they have been confused by some people!
I'm not sure what external card would saturate the Thunderbolt 2... Rendering stuff doesn't saturate IO, because it takes much longer to render than it does to output the results. People have been using 4K transcoder cards with Thunderbolt cheerfully enough already. There is a limit to how many times faster than real-time you need to be able to shunt video around... if you can get it off your RAID very quickly at will, it kind of negates the need to bulk transfer into your machine to edit it.
Having the expensive expansion cards housed externally means they can be shared between workstations, or even taken on the road for site work with a Macbook - so a useful resource isn't tied down to one user's desk.
An external enclosure means that RAID storage can be accessed very quickly locally by Thunderbolt, but also be available to colleagues (more slowly) over LAN without your Mac having to be turned on.
Having stuff housed externally means that the Mac's PSU doesn't have to be over-specified.
Making the Mac Pro smaller and out of less material will allow it to be cheaper than the old design with the same components- savings you can use to buy enclosures. You'll still likely be left with more free desk space than at present, too.
However, for all that, I'd wait for reports of how it performs in the real-world.
Butt-plugs are designed to go in, but then be easily removed. What you are thinking of is a 'loader', used by drug mules to conceal contraband in the same orifice. Form follows function.
I haven't heard of pachyderms being used to smuggle drugs, but it might explain why an elephant is transported from Florida to Texas in Smokey and the Bandit II.
People have been making estimates based on the cost of the AMD cards, the RAM and the Xeon chippery... but compared to the price of the kit you will likely be using with it (as you say, the displays, plus accelerator cards, RAID storage, cameras, etc) it will probably look quite reasonable.
They are PCIe cards, but with a custom shape... nVidia or AMD may release compatible cards for it down in future. However, extra storage and PCIe ( 4K video transcoder, RAID, audio, graphics) cards can be added through the 3 Thunderbolt 2 controllers.
Video production is often fast moving - you want to shunt raw video onto the machine for editing, and then get the the result off it again for distribution, archiving and redundant storage.
What it needs is a proximity sensor, so when it detects a scrunched up piece of paper heading its way it whacks the fan up to 'turbo mode' to deflect it.
"wang-coffin" - I've not heard that phrase before, but it immediately put me in mind of a currently popular TV series. That, and John Bobbit- though his wife didn't use a container and threw it out of a car window.
Is a term you need to use regularly? : D
The only person I know who uses (and has to use) Mac Pros for his video production company also has racks for storage (RAID speed and redundancy). I'm not sure that the Thunderbolt 2 will be the bottleneck when bringing raw video into the system, and people have already been happily using high-end video transcoding cards in Thunderbolt-PCIe cases (for on-site work with Macbooks).
If the Mac Pro is meant to sit near the user, then taking thermal design (with its acoustic implications) as the starting point is very sensible. Storage and and accelerator cards (more than you could fit in an old MacPro, you could now have a little GPU render farm in a rack) can live elsewhere.
Should the Mac Pro fail, just unplug it and plug in a spare Thunderbolt-equipped machine - storage and accelerator cards will still be available to it. Some people might not even need to bother with a new Mac Pro, and will plug in a Macbook Pro.
>Blimey - so forcing a woman to have sex was fine as long as she was your wife?
h3 didn't say that. h3 was just talking about the old definition of the word in a legal context, and made no mention of whether or not it was correct. The fact that they mentioned it - thus drawing attention to how 'law' doesn't always mean 'justice' - suggests that h3 doesn't think it is fine to force your wife to have sex with you.
It used to be the case that a widow could not marry her dead husband's brother. Why? Because the bit about 'being one in the flesh' in Genesis was taken as meaning that husband and wife became just that- a widow would be committing incest by consummating her marriage with her dead husband's brother.
It was a "fighting" game, in which characters attempt to exert power over each, and the human players are playing with the concept for fun. Even a board game like Monopoly is about imposing power over another person ("Rent!" "I can't pay"... What happens when the Iron makes the Dog bankrupt? Does the Dog find itself on the street, and turning to prostitution to avoid being sent to Battersea? Being subject to economic power can sometimes be as damaging to ones physical and mental health as being subject to physical power... both forms of power, alas, have been used innumerable times over the centuries to compel people to do things they rather wouldn't)
Without an imbalance of power, there couldn't be rape- it would just be consensual sex. So I can only assume it is the power that people find offensive, yet it is power that is at the core of so many games- so it is odd that people have to transpose the comments to another scenario in order to feel offended by it.
Games that make friends swear at each other (Worms, being the one I've played most recently) are fun, and are only good for the friendship - they are games! "Nice shot, you jammy f$%ing b$%tard!" Smiles.
Way to abuse and devalue the word 'rape', Eadon.
>c'mon world+dog, make up your frikken minds
Mind change, through experience if nothing else: In 2005, few people had used a capacitive touchscreen device, and perhaps benefited from skeumorphic cues. These days, the vast majority of iPhone users will have used a smartphone before, and so no longer need said cues.
I ain't going to judge it by screenshots, other than I don't like the white... how can that be good for battery life?
Indeed, people are judging iOS 7 on screenshots, not use. Criticism of it will have more force if they are made once this new version is released.
>The iPod was a ripoff of creative players.
The Creative player that preceded the iPod, a Nomad Jukebox, resembled a portable CD player - never the best form for a portable machine, and not a smart decision. The iPod, using a smaller HDD, resembled a more pocket-friendly cassette Walkman- much better.
Apple didn't rip off Creative's unfortunate decision to solder the headphone jack directly to the main PCB on the 'Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen'. Unsurprisingly this part on my Zen broke, so I took it back to the shop and got a iRiver H320 instead - superb.
The website's name should give you a clue that they are anything but (biased towards) iPods.
Is iOS7 released into the wild, yet? There is every chance this criticism is valid, and if so it will still be valid after someone has spent a week with this new iOS version.
>Just imagine what the state of music would be if Apple hadn't introduced the iPod. At that time, pretty much every mp3 player would do mp3 and wma.
Without Apple, Sony might have been the company to create the first high-end cum mass-market HDD audio player... if so, we'd have been using ATRAC and SonicStage (shudder). But yeah, I take your point: Apple became big enough to dictate terms to music publishers regarding DRM. I like them for that, just as I do for standing out against Flash, and for advocating 16:10 laptops.
Sony's new tablet works with Dualshock3 controllers out of the box, and it is easier to get the same Sony DS3 controller to work with a PC than it is a wireless Xbox controller (it requires a dongle).
$200,000 salary - pole dancing girlfriend...
I'm sure there was more information in the article but none of use to me, given we've all always assumed the NSA collected whatever data they wanted. Haven't we?
>Unix has never been cool or uncool - it's a professional tool and is 'cool-factor' exempt.
Garth in Wayne's World 2 would beg to differ.
Garth: That's a UNIX book.
Curiously, this article from eighteen months ago seems to predict this new Mac Pro, suggesting the concept isn't too alien to video production professionals:
"The concept proves with enough RAM and a powerful processor, Thunderbolt could enable smaller Macs to do the work of a Mac Pro. Hard Drives, PCI cards and everything besides the processor and RAM can now be connected via Thunderbolt rather that being built into the box.
Apple could modularize for their Pros. Think about starting with a Mac Mini with a XEON Processor and lots of RAM (OK, the cooling stuff might turn it into a cube)."
And that was using the less flexible Thunderbolt 1, not the newer TB2. These guys also seem to find TB for RED Rocket acceptable:
As for desk clutter, the people who are processing this much video are likely to have a rack mounted solution for storage already. Should a Mac Pro fail, it is quicker to plug a spare machine (even a Macbook Pro) into the Thunderbolt than it is to swap the drives (and exotic PCIe cards) out of the dead machine, allowing the studio to get on with chasing that deadline.
>Far more likely that the markets reacted to the lack of announcements on new iDevice and other consumer hardware.
Really? Even though Tim Cook had said well advance that there wouldn't be any new iDevice hardware?
>zero practical use.
didn't they say the same about LASERs?
A fake would look much better!
'belming'... curiously, when I googled that term I found
which appears to be a page entirely copied-and-pasted from H2G2
>I noticed years ago that a "tongue protrusion" always gained me entry.
Whereas Roger Moore merely had to raise an eyebrow.
Spoiler Alert (minor):
In the film Hot Fuzz, an apparently forgetful desk sergeant is later revealed to be two separate police officers, both played by Bill Bailey. Re-watching the film, one of the desk sergeants always reads an Iain Banks book, and the other an Iain M. Banks novel. http://www.edgarwrighthere.com/2013/04/03/in-praise-of-mr-iain-banks-and-mr-iain-m-banks/
He originally dropped the 'M.' at the insistence of his publishers, who feared negative associations with the novelist Rosie M. Banks. I have no idea what she is like as an author, but she is referred to in some of P.G Woodhouse's stories (in the 'Blandings' series, I think)
>Although that James Naughtie bird is definitely a bit of a minger
Yeah, but I like it when he talks dirty - "Jeremy Hunt, Culture Secretary..."
Or 'Beauty Knows No Pain', by FZ ( You Are What You Is)
>Now list me a few female presenters who aren't at least passably good looking.
No, I shall not sir. To do so would be ungallant!
I wrote 'Heart FM' above when it should have been 'Heat Milton Keynes'. Silly me.
>"The advert did not say why it was important for a radio presenter to be good looking."
It's perfectly possible that Heart FM had posted the advertisement for the same reason the Reg have had a reporter apply to the site - to get an edge on a story of interest.
Two friends of mine, already couple, applied to www.beautifulpeople.com some years ago for a laugh- she got in quite easily, but it took her boyfriend quite a few attempts - and they then exchanged spoof flirtatious messages before 'getting together'. The website contacted them "Congratulations! Actually, you guys are the first couple to get together on our site, could we discuss using your story to promote our site?" at which point my friends confessed to just messing about.
>Now we have vast hardware capability, and all it's used for is yet another 3rd person shooter.
Fair enough. Though if you are looking for reasons to be optimistic, the recent Reg article with Ian Livingstone highlighted the originality that can be found in games for phones and tablets: a forced rethinking of control schemes, more limited hardware placing the emphasis on game play, a market model that can aid indy developers, connectivity as standard encouraging play amongst other people locally or remotely...)
Personally, last week I spend a great night with old friends playing an Amiga-era game, Worms, on their XBOX 360... a game works if it gets a friend to shout "You f%$ing bastard! I'll get you for that!" as you uppercut her last worm.
>Android is a more flexible and robust mobile OS and it costs much less
And if the user has no need for that 'flexibility', then why would they want it? Anyway, you're only looking at the OS - if you look at the peripheral hardware available for iDevices, you'll notice that iOS offers more choice and flexability (docks, car integration, wide selection of 3rd party head-phones with remote controls that work, high quality condenser microphones etc). There are also software categories that are better represented in iOS (music creation, graphics creation and mark-up etc), just as I'm sure there are categories that are better supported on Android.
Whatever, buy whatever device suits you and leave others to do the same.
>so its no more elitist than any other phone.
In the UK, there is a difference between a £20 /month contract (very respectable mid-range Android phone phone or other) and a £35 /month contract (iPhone).
>So white people like me are more rich?
'...like me are richer'.
To paraphrase (I think it was) Dave Chappelle:
"There is a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Michael Jordan might be rich, but the man who signs his cheques... he's wealthy".
According to Felix Dennis, many rich people are technically in debt for tax purposes.
>So, you are an Apple empty-headed imperialist who cannot think
How did you get that from the survey in question? Or are you basing that on some other equally objective evidence to which you have merely forgotten to supply a reference to?
The survey results suggest that they can think, but have better things to think about (such as their career and family) than their phones.
> Apple's adverts are just as much about fashion — the iPhone is sleek and modern
And they also suggest 'simple'. The adverts tend to be in the form of "It lets you do this". When they do promote a feature, they tend to have thought up a catchy name for it that gives some clue as to its purpose, eg FaceTime.
Yeah, I've had a similar brain-itch... "Why is his name familiar?"
The article would suggest that he is more fun than James Blish, another author whose books I've stumbled across in charity shops (but neglected in favour of Harry Harrison).
The video game studio Bungie appear to have drawn influence from The Dying Earth for their upcoming game 'Destiny', just as they stated they read Niven and Banks before making their game 'Halo'.
I had a couple of FF books, and to my shame I didn't use dice and cheated with my fingers as Jackson described. This must have been a couple of years after reading an Usbourne book, "Write your own Adventure Game for your Microcomputer", the end of which were pages of Basic to serve as an example and template.
>How interesting that voice recognition seems to have made more progress recently while this has not.
English speaking people can usually understand my speech very easily. My handwriting is near illegible!
Okay, other theory:
Speech and handwriting recognition benefit from being done on a remote server where they can be refined by the input of many, many users. in recent years there have been far more people using voice-recognition - on their phones - than have been using handwriting recognition.
>Dont be fooled. A mouse and a control pad beats touch screens for gaming any day
Depends on the game, no? I'd like to see a variant of Cannon Fodder or Bullfrog's Syndicate on a tablet, if the multi-touch allows several cyborgs to be controlled at once.
>Faster than current Atoms, but no comparison with current ARMs. Less power than current Atoms, but no comparison with current ARMs.
Links to benchmarks please!
> downloading all languages/commentary tracks, subtitles, camera angles, whether they will be used or not strikes me as not particularly clever, really.
I would imagine that it would only download what it required, on the fly. This would bring some latency to to the user interaction, but no more than skipping through an iPlayer programme.
"Technically, HD video and sound is all well and good but it does NOTHING to the diet of food-orientated, the shambling housing-orientated and the hard-hammered auction-orientated rubbish, much of which is badly upscaled SD, repeated Ad Nauseam."
You're channelling Patrick Moore. And I agree with you. It was a pity that Patrick choose to blame it on feminism, and thus cause his valid points to lost amongst the inevitable noise.
>All the better to get the commie propaganda out there to the TV-watching sheeple.
The alternative model gives us Fox News, News International and James Murdoch.
Adult readers here may care to watch Armando Ianucci's riposte to Murdoch Jr's claim that "only the guarantee of quality is profit" here in his BAFTA lecture:
>I'd like to see keys on the keyboard with built-in vibrant, colour OLEDs, so they can be contextual to the application, not just QWETY.
You can have it, but at a high, high cost: (roughly $1000 USD)
There maybe some games controllers that might suit your needs, though.
>Maybe a trackpad cum touchscreen would be good, and the image could display things such as jog and shuttle wheel or sliders as summoned by the application.
All iDevices have had wireless MIDI baked in from the beginning, so what you describe is already well supported amongst desktop digital audio applications.
However, I would like to be able to offload Photoshop (for example) tool palettes to a secondary touch-screen! I was tempted by a 7" USB-powered and driven monitor, but they seem pricey compared to either cheap 7" tablets or 21" monitors.
My mate has just bought a Korg Kaosillator... whilst it can function as a stand-alone noise making thingy, it can also place it's real hardware controls (X Y rear-illuminated touch-pad, sliders, nice heavy jog dials, colour-changing trigger pads) at the disposal of a connected computer. It's pricey, though!
Make up your mind whether you're talking about the resale value of iMacs or iPhones.
Several studies, made in different ways (ie event monitoring software, returns to manufacturer, customer surveys) suggest that Apple computers are fairly reliable.