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Brit airline pilots warn of drone menace

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FAIL

Re: I hope you drone pilots have decent insurance

I think the key phrase is "responsibility to avoid collision." typically a jet plane can't "just swerve" to avoid anything. Especially on approach. So all forms of support will be to the airline pilot I would think.

And I think bringing a plane down with a drone will be a "set an example" type case. The first will be the last with probably domestic terrorism attached (easy to see in current climate) and there won't be much in defence for the drone pilot. Class G or not only a buffoon would assume a plane at that speed and that size can avoid a small light weight white thing, and even if trying to avoid it what else would they hit?

"Sorry the pilot should have seen my 1kg drone at over a 100 miles an hour and avoided it guv!" I don't think would be anything that washes in a court packed with 300 grieving families.

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'No safe level' booze guidelines? Nonsense, thunder stats profs

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Pint

Needs to be said.

I will go with an academic over a politician any day of the week.

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Does anyone know what their broadband costs? The ASA hopes to change that

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WTF?

Wow, ASA stating the bleeding obvious.

All prices should include the landline tax. Not make it a stupid optional extra as you can't not have it.

Ofcom should make the landline tax optional. If I want fibre with BT (or VM or Sky), I don't want to have to pay 15.99 (or whatever) a month for the privilege of a phone I don't use. I only answer for cold calling because the tp line never works either.

There should be very clear (font 48 in black on a white background) I can't remember when an advert didn't have white text you can't read in the half a second of white text in font 8 on a white background at the bottom. The last one I read for the new DS4 says leather dashboard not available in UK. So why advertise it there then.

Same as BT saying you CAN GET, should advertise average or realistic speeds not what you know you won't get. Price accordingly. I may get 76Mbs with BT, realistically I might hit 40. So pay for 40 because you are then paying over the odds at 6PM when it shuts down because everyone is online, and making a profit when you are awake playing online at 3AM and get 76 because it is just you.

OFCOM and ASA are useless, but a step in the right direction

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Sorry, kids. Microsoft is turning Minecraft into an 'educational tool'

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FAIL

Hmmm... Call me a cynic.

I will be the first to guess, it will only work on windows 10. So that school have to have windows 10. Just gonna' put that out there. When schools can't afford jack because of govt cuts.

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After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale released as last of the 17 line

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Re: Linux & Games

There is a native steam client, not even counting the Steam OS linux distro.

Sadly my linux machine has a rubbish on board graphics card but it played Left 4 dead 2 perfectly (lots turned down. Nice and smooth just more like minecraft.) So the client works and the game worked. And that was a previous version of Linux as well, so give it another whirl.

I am looking to buy a proper rig for Linux as my current little dual core AMD office machine is now five years old (Still happily working with Mint however) So I can start to see what Steam can do.

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2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah, we're messing with you

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Happy

Nice sum up.

Who cares about a "Year for Linux." As long as it moves forward, I can use it and get what I need from it so I can kiss MS good bye and look back on Windows years as the "extra taxation" years.

Roll on 2016, continually improving Steam OS. A decent continued development in Libre Office and people like Ubuntu for pushing the boundaries of what others can do. Linux Mint in general and all those nerdy type people that understand coding because I don't.

And did I say I can kiss good bye to MS?

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Windows 10 makes big gains at home, lags at work

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Happy

Re: Why keep reporting these stats

But define support?

I am not talking "can you just install this, or is that software any good?" Some of the things include a complete reinstall of windows 8 from disk because the bundled rubbish Toshiba put on it have gone bad. Or can you do a complete rebuild after a virus because for some reason the AV can't touch it and despite 2 x 4 hour stints at tackling it, a full reinstall of everything was needed. So overall 14 - 16 hours of solid effort arguing with drivers (that didn't come bundled) and trying to find a disk (because Windows 8 doesn't ship with one) and trying to then source software they "think" they had on it.

And the latest. "I accidentally installed Windows 10, tried the roll back but did it via the factory reset which has gone to Windows 10 again so roll back doesn't work anymore. What is next?"

Joking aside and having them as family or friends I find that "Support" is the word, just "helping a mate" isn't really factoring it in.

And payment is a "thank son." or "I will buy you a pint."

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Unhappy

Re: Why keep reporting these stats

Who said he is paid support? I support family and friends on Windows 7 and have told them exactly the same. They go to Windows 10 over my cold carcass. (For some the grief I have had trying to support the awful windows 8 which seems easier to infect with viruses because the 'admin is not an admin'. So I can't remove the stupid things) that they won't dare go to 10.

One accidentally did it and then "a friend of theirs. Accidentally updated and how do you get back??"

I saw through the ruse. Rolling back was quite easy but I am not wasting my time helping people out with something that isn't needed and is that invasive for a home user. Free or not.

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Microsoft's 200 million 'Windows 10' 'devices' include Lumias, Xboxes

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FAIL

To summarise.

200 million people gave in to nagging or were forced updates or were sold in the usual Christmas peak as people bought shiny new tech that didn't come with Win 7.

...And I had heard the PS4 was a 4:1 sale rate against Xbone. Christmas will have inflated the figures I am sure.

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Surface Pro 4: Will you go the F**K to SLEEP?

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WTF?

Re: All quiet on the western front

Had Linux for seven years now, haven't been in a command prompt in... Erm... Seriously I can't think when. I updated to the latest flavour of Mint last year (well the new version back then) and that was two lines of update code, so that was 18 months ago? I used Mint because Ubuntu had that awful unity but I used ubuntu from 2009 - 2012. (Mandrake before that) I was in terminal even less back then as Ubuntu updates through the package manager not through terminal.

What do you do in Linux that needs to go into command line?

My machine is on 24/7, I never reboot or shut down as it doesn't need to when I update. I turn it off when I go on holiday. (Because I suddenly fear it catching fire for some reason)

Seriously how bad is your install if you need to use the terminal to get things done??

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Apply online to go to Mars. No, seriously

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Happy

Wow... Applying already.

Who cares about salary, literally everything is paid for anyway. And I think anyone who goes is going for the job, not the pay packet.

Need to add to the advert. "Balls of solid rock" as a requirement. Good luck to 'em.

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Dropbox tells Mailbox and Carousel users to get their affairs in order

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Meh

Finally?

Does this extra development time mean Dropbox will finally be able to give users the option of turning OFF the preview? Seems to be a popular request but as yet they think they know better.

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Star Wars Battlefront: Is this the shooter you’re looking for?

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Re: I was tempted to buy this game

Garden warfare introduced the Android pricing model to the PC, it was utter shite. You buy your coins to power up and your power ups don't stick around because there are sooooooo many of them you can't possibly keep up without spending money. Some were spent on that level and didn't carry over.

EA are all about the DLC and fleecing people. Cod 4 had dozens of DLC with one over £20 and most were around £12.

Sadly they own the best company for making decent shooters, DICE. But with no single player, £40 for the season pass and the inevitable DLC...

Not for me.

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Sneaky Microsoft renamed its data slurper before sticking it back in Windows 10

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Happy

Re: If someone can show me

Steam OS will help, built around the whole Steam on Linux thing.

Look in steam store for 'steamplay' (there are windows and apple and steamplay icons.) If memory serves there are over 3000 title but mostly indie and small titles. However the big Valve titles are in there and things like borderlands 2 and prequal, metro redux etc..

If it is steamplay then you can use Steam OS, or steam client on another linux. I have it running on my Linux mint.

You will lose some older games and anything from EA as they don't like Steam much but then you can look at Wine.

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Why Microsoft yanked its latest Windows 10 update download: It hijacked privacy settings

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Mushroom

Evidence if it were needed.

"When the November update was installed, a few settings preferences may have inadvertently not been retained for advertising ID, Background apps, SmartScreen Filter, and Sync with devices"

The reason I am gone from windows. My OS now has an advertising ID.

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Halo 5: Overhyped, but still way above your average shooter

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eh?

There is a comment in there about online not having any issues yet, probably because most people have been buying the play station 4. (I know coat is already on)

But no local coop play / split screen will mean at a LAN (and they still exist) people all have to go online which kills some poor guys Home internet (yes it happens)

They do seem to want to kill social interaction with people in the same place and instead rely on stupid 14 year old kids who just shout abuse at you till you turn off the game or the voice, thus losing the theory of a squad.

And Master chief was the main character, Lets be honest Halo was master chief versus the covenant, they went away in number 3 and now it was master chief versus some other dude and random splinter group of covenant, so now we have less master chief and even less covenant, the links get thinner. It is like James bond where instead he is in the background and Moneypenny is doing the action but on behalf of the French.

Certainly smacks of milking it for all its worth.

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Microsoft's 'Arrow' Android launcher flies into Play store

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Thumb Down

tsk tsk.

I like the idea of going on line to change background daily.

But then you said Bing and so I thought what photos exactly would end up on my phone, none would be popular celebs or those trending, or ones that might be considered cool (I sound old now), none would be relevant (to me or my hobbies) and instead a stream of nonsensical landscapes or city scapes that I couldn't give a monkeys about but which are DRM free.

And then I remember M$ is a malware peddler these days, so while it grabs the photo for you, what else is it doing? What is it sending? Bad enough using Android means Google has everything, but M$ as well as Google?

Not for me then.

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Work from home when the next big Windows 10 installation arrives

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Mushroom

Morons.

1 day before the weekend starts all MS games consoles will be EITHER dead or updating. I pity the kids... Actually I pity the parents of the kids.

Should have been a Monday release.

Hopefully it won't reach the 360, but I will be on a Steam OS by then anyway. (Fingers crossed)

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Microsoft's top lawyer: I have a cunning plan ... to rescue sunk safe harbor agreement

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Mushroom

Erm....

Man responsible for allowing the biggest malware peddling data trawl in history (MS windows 10 worldwide security and cloud model) thinks we should follow his efforts.

Bell End.

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EA Games rubbishes Pastebin breach claim

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FAIL

Ea are well practiced for something that never happens.

My email account got hacked, I was told by email change notification. They had also set up the 2 form factor mobile number to theirs so every attempt to change texted a code to the other person.

EA's website was rubbish in finding out what to do as every lead put you into logging on with the same account that was hacked which sent a code to the mobile phone. OR asked me to go through forgotten the password links which had same effect.

Eventually some random EA page on the support linked a human being who was very quick to realise what was going on. And voila.

I had a Russian email address and an Italian mobile number on my systems.

But the speed EA reset it all to me, suggests perhaps it was actually something well rehearsed and not an ad-hoc process.

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El Reg keeps pushing Apple's buttons – its new Magic Keyboard

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Pint

Re: "So, overall, an improvement."

I did read the article and got the sense that is sounds crappy with so many problem that shouldn't be there."

A fair summary would be "it won't connect", "the PC can't find it when it finally connected", "It isn't that comfortable an angle" or "all the keys are doing odd things."

Then a 4 out of 5 is a bit fanboi territory.

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Playboy drops the butt-naked ladies

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WTF?

What about Europe.

Does it affect all playboy franchsise? Playboy DE is a very different beast because Germans are not prude Americans (Nice way of saying Germans are a bit mental).

So will they lose out as well? And then we have playboy Holland in there and there is plaboy France, Slovenia, Brazil. etc.

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Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws

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Coat

I feel someone should say.

Are there any fans of Unity, I mean there might be a few, somewhere possibly? I expect down votes galore from the few that like it, but most people seem to go to Mint because Unity sux it big time. (or the Amazon direct selling link was a little too invasive)

Or shall I just get my coat?

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NOxious Volkswagen diesel emissions scandal: Chief falls on sword

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FAIL

Old news.

Watched this on the news last night, worth pointing out to the Reg that this was shown by the BBC over a year ago in tests (and then televised back then as part of the special report)

But US only just woke up to it. AND now it is news.

Main reason is US have stricter limits in place as they care more about the environment (I am not kidding, the reporter actually said that.)

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Intel's 6th gen processors rock – but won't revive PC markets

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Happy

Re: New machine for a new CPU? What a waste of $!

Have an upvote, you beat me to it.

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WinPhone community descends into CANNIBALISM and WOE

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Happy

Re: Fanboys

I know quite a few Apple Fanbois, they buy every model, wait up till 3 AM or whatever it is to watch the Apple release live, and have even queued over night. Even posting on facebook how excited they are when the iwatch arrived (or phone or whatever)

They do exist, they are that sad.

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Don't want to upgrade to Windows 10? You'll download it WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

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Mushroom

MS are b*st*rds

I have a 256GB SSD, I don't want 3GB of stealth files infecting it.

In the UK GB limits on internet is the norm, and 3GB of unwarranted, unasked for and unknown file downloads is gonna' hit a lot of people that naturally get near that limit each month. And 13 million people in this country are on or below the poverty line so paying for more isn't an option. (According to BBC's Question Time just before the election)

... But aside from that MS have become Malware peddlers to the extreme. Every day is another reason to avoid Windows 10, and increasingly Windows.

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Apple's iPad Pro: We're making a Surface Pro WITH A STYLUS over Steve Jobs' DEAD BODY

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FAIL

Re: Slavishly Copied

Actually yeah, I had two. One was the windows phone that ran programs like a computer. I think it was pocket Pc 2002 & then 2003 basically on a phone. Mine was the Vario1 and Vario 2 something or other from T mobile and they ran programs, let me read email and generally do stuff with a browser. I even had a slide out keyboard and I could play with a stylus games like age of empires. And even though it had a stylus, you could use your finger to touch the screen and things happened.

I still have them in a drawer and although quite large the battery lasted a week even with all the features (and a 128 page instruction manual including how to connect to MS Exchange)

And I also had the Nokia 7210 I think it was, that had apps which appeared as icons on a screen that you pressed and things happened, like games and things to do with the weather and something that did the internet via WAP. Ran on Symbian and I upgraded to the Vario because I needed to connect my phone to MS and Nokia's desktop migration tool was pants.

And then came Apple with the iphone in 2007. Wonder where it gets it ideas from.

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Ship-swallowing GREEN BIO-STORM spotted FROM SPAAACE

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Happy

Nice.

I like the idea of a satellite being just as happy taking photos of algae. Like the rover probe in planet 51, has some programming but seems intent on something and will go off doing it's own thing.

All alone in space just taking pics, when the mood takes it before going all Austin Powers.

Nice photos though.

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Windows 10 grabbed about five per cent market share in August

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FAIL

Re: So What!

Used Linux for years, since 2008. But never have to use terminal unless I am trying to meddle.

However you are right in the devs need to get on board. Only real problem with Linux has been drivers and web focus which need adobe, which is down to the fact it is a complete ball ache to update. So web browsing does for Linux because adobe and java suck at it for most users (heck I struggle to get rapid updates of flash as it never quite seems to work first time out the box.)

Still windows 10 getting 5%, not hard really in a six month window of malware ramming it down our throats and then the supposed "FREE" update so they can data mine.

Any stupid fool would think FREE is a good thing and then just click next next next.

And consider 5 million of them were the alleged fanbois that "market research" told MS in the first place that data mining and METRO was a good thing. So do they count as genuine home user upgrades? I don't think so.

And how many of them are IT staff the world over using TechNet and MSDN (or whatever) to get some VM's up and running to test if this is actually better than Windows 8, so their upgrade cycle can finally spark into action and get in new kit, now that 8 is finally dead and buried.

Pinch of salt to the numbers and use them as an indication.

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Back to school: Six of the smartest cheap 'n' cheerful laptops

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WTF?

Pentium still not been killed yet?

Dunno why people even consider the Pentium chip, every review says it is down powered, underperforming or something similar.

Yeah it is a cheap laptop but you still want to do stuff. Having a woe full chip that can barely run oversized OS' isn't helpful. I would look at i3 minimum these days. AMD is okaaaaaayyyyyyy I guess.

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Five lightweight Linux desktop worlds for extreme open-sourcers

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Happy

Re: I'm with you

Erm, 2 gigs is not that old a requirement or rare for pensioners, dabblers, cheap kids laptops and all those other machines that get bought to shut up the relative at christmas? (Can we say Pentium chip)

Or anyone that currently has an old XP machine, someone that didn't jump into Windows 8, upgraded hardware to windows 7 and have been waiting for Windows 10. Then suddenly saw the train wreck that is windows 10. And might want to use that old machine for something useful.

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Amazon to trash Flash, as browsers walk away

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Happy

Re: It's a start...

Ironically at least two portions of this very page are MS cloud adverts that run flash, which my browser didn't display and showed me "secure content" error messages.

Still best comment ever. (World+Dog) - Microsoft. Can be used for quite a lot these days when considering industry standards.

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Windows 10 market share growth slows to just ten per cent

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Happy

There is a plus to these numbers.

5% is a good looking growth, considering the Malware used to infect peoples machines until they upgrade.

Nice to see the world holding out against the privacy invading juggernaught. Restores my faith in humanity at not being totally stupid, idiotic sheep who just click yes to everything.

(I know I am being hopeful with this one)

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Spotify now officially even worse than the NSA

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WTF?

Bit shit.

I don't use spotify, but to know one of my friends has signed up for it, and because my friend has signed up, spotify now has my details through facebook I find rather offensive.

One thing for me to sign over stuff to facebook. But that is my choice, this is just bollox. Do I get a say in whether or not spotify can data mine me as well???

Of course I don't. Time to rethink my friends on facebook.

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Microsoft will explain only 'significant' Windows 10 updates

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FAIL

Basically

Everyone should just trust MS on updates?

Riiiiiiiiiiiigggghhhhhtttttt,

Really hope Steam for Linux picks up the pace.

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Stop taking drug advice from Kim Kardashian on Twitter, sighs watchdog

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Not that odd as it happens.

Wasn't too long ago they (NHS) used to prescribe smoking for those that had shortness of breathe like bronchitis or asthma. The oddity was that smoking meant you worked the inhalation of your lungs more and in a stronger exercise that normal breathing, which actually improved your breathing (Or so I am reliably informed)

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Introducing the Asus VivoMini UN42 – a pint-sized PC, literally

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WTF?

Odd combination.

A lack luster chipset - celeron compared to i3 - i5?

32GB SSD for windows?

Asus what are you thinking? People will buy it, realise it's pants and blame you.

Make it linux and keep the spec or give it 256 SSD and use windows with a proper i5 at least for anything Windows related. It might run but it will be dog slow once you kick in an AV and other essentials like windows update.

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First SPACE SALAD on Monday's menu for ISS astronauts

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Trollface

Re: Trekkies understand the Laws of thermodynamics and mass conservation.

... but in Babylon 5 they had hydroponic gardens on board. Which in many episodes was raised as a source of food and argument over amount of ship taken up with growing things.

And grass. No use other than to look pretty.

Yes I realise I might have started a nerd war between genre's - but didn't galactica the original series have crop ships? and who can forget huey, duey and looey, the gardening robots in space?

But interesting article, step in the right direction and all that.

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Microsoft's Arrow brings pane to Androids

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Windows

Re: One tiny detail....

You sound like you have either had a bad time with Android, or you work for M$?

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MORE Windows 10 bugs! Too many Start menu apps BREAK it

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Meh

Re: sounds like enough but...

If like windows 8 the extra tiles mean you just scroll to the right.

If you use a mouse this takes a very very very very very long time to scroll that far to the right (I don't have touch screen) and nnoying as the little slider is a tiny ling on the bottom so you invariably move your mouse and move off the slider having to repeat.

I don't have 512 but very near.

It is like they want to make you type in everything...

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OnePlus 2: The smartie that's trying to outsmart Google's Android

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Happy

Re: can I add SD card?

Yeah either an SD card or 128GB, I don't mind paying a little extra for the HDD space, but I have 60GB of music and films on my phone as it goes everywhere and I can't be bothered copying to and from my PC at home.

2 Sim card sounds nice.

I second the genius of hand gestures for torch and camera.

Otherwise one plus 3?

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BONK! BONK! Windows 10 whack-a-mole – Microsoft still fixing bugs

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Happy

Re: There are no service packs for Win10

Darn!, you beat me to it.

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Windows 10 on Mobile under the scope: Flaws, confusion, and going nowhere fast

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WTF?

Polished, really?

What part of Microsoft do you work for? You AC because your email is @Microsoft.com. :)

Easy to ignore the article but things like, "some are square, some are pills". That is a clear case of two ideas not meeting. Indicative of MS in general.

Comments like pull down menus being done for mouse but then brought into the OS, they are not polished for a thumb driven OS, they are pains in the rear, waiting to happen for a normal phone user who likes apps.

The music app still not being any good, well that is MS all over. Media playing in windows 8 still takes five hours to catalogue when you load up and can't run international standards for playlists without hassle and crashing.

But HTML that won't display... Really is a finished article that. :)

And so on...

I actually thought windows 8.1 was worthy of a buy, perhaps a second phone or cheap replacement. If that flagship turned up from Nokia I might even upgrade. But not now, think I will be staying with Android and hope MS get a windows 11 (but probably will be more like Blackberry by then)

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Here's why Whittingdale kicked a subscription BBC into the future

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Meh

Re: Need an opt out

Argument little flawed. Road tax is meant to pay road tax, and you do pay for it in either bus fairs or taxi fairs, only pedestrians don't pay (and cyclists) Because the road tax isn't enough, that is a different reason, but the tax is still meant to cover it.

NHS, well your private medical company won't have an A&E or ambulance (you may wanna check) so you do pay for the NHS. Something everyone needs to remember when BUPA come calling, you still use the NHS to get there.

Schools, well education is part of taxes so you can have that one.

Most other taxes started out being something to cover where you CAN opt out, like VAT, don't buy and you don't pay it etc etc.

TV Tax is just another, my annoyance is buying a DVD player to watch DVD's generates threatening letters from the licence team. Would love to opt out so I can save my self money. Nothing good on TV if you don't like cooking or reality TV, the rest I can buy as a boxed set so the makers get their well deserved money.

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SatNad's purple haze could see Lumia 'killed'. Way to go, chief!

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I genuinely don't understand MS anymore.

If I was a share owner or partner trying to back them, I would be very nervous right now.

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Smartphones are ludicrously under-used, so steal their brains

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Happy

Comment.

Nasa used to have the screensaver that number crunched for them, they couldn't afford the huge super computers to number crunch, but a million home PC's number crunching in the background while on screen saver enabled them to do wonders collectively.

I can see that kind of thing being done with the phones, batteries aside a lot of phone do nowt, stucking our pockets and could be doing useful stuff (other than reporting to Google, Apple, M$ and the NSA what we do)

Not sure I want my phone controlling my house, but I can see a large number of apps that could run off my phone and then just plug in the relevant hardware to do it.

Someone already said though, we have OS fragmentations, as well as Hardware manufacturers wanting to protect their profit margins.

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It's OK – this was an entirely NEW type of cockup, says RBS

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Facepalm

Re: du -sh

Would have thought they used something like a dry run process, some kind of environment that would let them look at what the file is and does before it goes live.

I don't know lets call it test, you are testing the system so perhaps call it a test environment. Where you can then test the 13million transactions and find missing commas before it hits your live environment.

Or have I just worked in places with logical thinking?

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Voyager 2 'stopped' last week, and not just for maintenance

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Re: Wonderful pieces of engineering

Certainly something when the only thing after all this time that will ultimately be the downfall of voyager is how long 'radiation' lasts in a battery.

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Doom, Mario, Pac-Man level up to video gaming's Hall of Fame

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Does seem to be US console-centric,

Port 666 in windows is Doom, I think that counts as popular culture regardless of whether you were "legally" old enough to play it.

Elite, Baldurs gate, worms as the first game you could play on your nokia phone, or solitaire for that matter.

I agree with the six as a six, but why six? Why not ten?

And age specific, WOW is newish, but half life set a benchmark for what can be done in a game (and the market that is valve / steam changed the way we consume games digitally and not on a disk.

Battlefield 1942 brought in multi online, pic k a vehicle and respawn type games that changed the market again. (then cloned into a cash cow for EA)

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