In five years time
It will be:
*Chinese Android phones
*HP & WebOS
* The odd Samsung
err.. that's it.
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It will be:
*Chinese Android phones
*HP & WebOS
* The odd Samsung
err.. that's it.
Unless Intel can persuade someone like Motorola, or some other once-mighty but sleeping phone company to join it, it might as well go find something else to play with. No MeeGo phones are going to come to market.
It does all make WebOs seem so much more attractive, doesn't it?
This timescale is another US conspiracy - this time to cheat me out of my chance to go!
Snore, snthak. what? What? eh?
Oh Sorry, did you want something important?
No, OK then.
I'll get back to, err, ...
I have been depressively predicting WebOs would be too little, too late. I have been excited by this announcement. if HP can pull it off, I'll be delighted. And, am already thinking of splashing out on the pad and the phone. Bring on the PC!
Anything that chips away at M$ smugness is good, too.
I appear to have had a stroke, or something.
I keep reading that as "Nokia Hospital Radio Headset DAB"
Must be the headset associations.
Oh look, here comes someone with a white coat...
That would be especially handy if you spoke Strine, Danish, Swedish, (4languages), German, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Czech, Funny English, Cantonese, Malay, etc, etc.
I'll get me language lab disks
The complex processing has always meant that DAB is power-hungry. My Sony portable can eat 4xAA batteries in 8 hours.
What happens to the phones? what do nokia say happens?
There is something very interesting emerging.
Almost every reviewed android product still comes with 2.1 and 2.2 'promised'. This is at a time when android 3 is being talked about. Why on earth are people bringing products to market with an out-of-date OS on?
I would have thought that once the hardware design was stable that porting from 2.1 to 2.2 would be a breeze. It obviously isn't. And from what people say about e.g. Motorola once the porting is done manufacturers would rather cut their hands off than go do it again.
Now, compare that with debian or windows on the desktop. If version x will run then version x+1 is guaranteed to fall on without difficulty. I bet no-one has launched a vista based laptop this year.
Now I realise that android is cross-compiled, that the kernel and drivers are optimised for that particular hardware. But surely once all that work is done it should be transparent to versions? Are the hal layers really rip-up-and-start-again?
I think that the difficulty in getting the next version on, even for manufacturers, even before product launch, suggests that things need to be made a lot more consistent and simple. It doesn't sound like a finished product to me.
This looks like a huge achillies heel to me. Once the market buzz and fashion has worn off, are we going to find that android is another prommable but not upgradable OS?
This is how capitalism works. Jolly good, and good luck to them all. But it does rather smack of mee-tooo desperatism.
can no-one in the listed giants come up with an Original idea that we will all flock to?
I took great pleasure, whenever I removed U3 from a stick, in filling in the box which asked why.
Only if WP7 is any good. Since it doesn't seem to be, then you end up with more of a win-fail.
It's customary to cling to something when you are in danger of sinking, but it seems to me that choosing WP7 would be like clinging to the wreckage of the engine, rather than to the lifeboat. Microsoft is clearly going down of its own accord.
I think Nokia might have made more of a success of meego or QT if it wasn't continually distracting itself re-engineering the same phones over and over again as new indistinguishable handsets, if it had not so consistently whored itself to dodgy network operators who wanted things that ticked all the buzzwords, but were so cheap they didn't actually do any of the things on the box well enough to be useful.
This is a worthless statistic. Like the time that Panasonic told the world that Microwave ovens were outselling electric cookers. it didn't mean microwaves were more popular, it just meant that everyone had an electric cooker already and they last four times as long as microwave ovens.
Most people who want a PC have already got one, at least in countries where people can afford smartphones. And you can easily make a PC last 5 years. Smartphones, especially those on contracts that offer upgrades, will be lucky to get to 2 years. That does not include any evidence that 'the smartphone is the new personal computer of choice'
This statistic is about as meaningful as saying that sheets of toilet paper out sell crinoline doll toilet roll covers. Tosh and drivel.
Damn good idea. Do it today!
glue it to a peltier device and a passive heat sink, and robert's-yer-mothers-brother.
Large old area, mind, have to do the sums on the objective.
... simple as that, eh?
I'll get me granny on it straight away!
Because publishers are greedy scum who have no idea what happened to record companies?
I think You've spotted the problem right there.
For some unfathomable reason it will be accumulating data from now on. Why historic data can't be included with a couple of quick SQL commands to populate it from the old data I can't imagine.
I suppose the police are going to be even busier now, dragging google map orange markers onto the place where Sharon says that Dave sent her a text threatening to slash her.
street-level mapping may preserve anonymity in metropolitan areas, but what about farming areas?
If you live in Guthram Gowt, and it says 1 violent crime (it doesn't today) then the equation is simple. Either you were beating your wife or the bloke over the road was. If it wasn't you, then he has lost anonymity.
Another instance of the people who run this country thinking that UK == London.
I accept the basic argument that digital does not always mean better - ask listeners to radio 3 if they prefer FM or DAB. I'm working in Germany at the moment and can use the car radio to get radio 5 on MW & radio 4 on LW. No plans for cross-border broadcasting by digital.
But the music industry is a poor model over which to argue. Digital music is a HUGE success. The record companies are hurting, but that is because they are (1) Dinosaurs who tried to prevent progress (2) turning out rubbish. I am reminded of the chap on 'The Now Show' who got the biggest round of applause I have ever heard for "Downloading isn't killing the music industry, Simon Cowell is killing the music industry".
You have to ask why ancient rockers, the Beatles, and old folkies are selling so well as downloads. Could it possibly be that, like Mariachi, you only need one Rap track and you have the whole genre? Could it be that the record companies in switching from A&R to managed production have killed their own golden-egg laying goose?
I've been collecting music from the 1930s and 1940s in the last few years. All paid for, of course. But even there the record companies show their greed. These tracks are out of copyright, but they slap copytheft protection on them by applying a digital filter or something and then charge the same as for living artists. The contempt they display for customers is obvious.
As log as you are politely asking the nasty people to be nice, this will be nothing more than gesturism.
We don't need to flag the users preferences, we need to get all the suppliers assessed and flagged somehow. Independently and legitimately.
Linux had a mountable gmail file system more or less from day 1. I used it, it was clever but slow. but very cool.
It doesn't matter where you end up, it matters how you got there.
There must be one born every minute.
how many of those have a job?
I'll get me PPE on & get back to work.
bye bye then
...Win7 Vs brick?
Although bing still has 'move the red circle' I've no idea why. In Multimap you could use it to display the co-ordinates of a point in Lat/Long, eastings/Northngs, and OS grid reference. M$ have removed that.
OK, Mr Graham Jones, get you back to Hyndburn and poke your feckless constituents with a stick until one of them starts a world-class technology based on a seriously good education and an understanding of how to do things in a way that no-one has tried before.
Before anyone asks how I know they are feckless, they voted Labour at the last election. Not all of them, of course, but probably not all of them are feckless.
No, I think not. A plane 10 years late and still not in service was already a massive gap.
Bring back the shacks, I say
... And, of course, there is nothing wrong in getting in a taxi when you can't pay for it.
... Nowhere near me, they won't be.
I was a member of the Consumer Association back in the 1960s. When they tested something then they put the actual measurements in the report. Round about 1971 they switched to coloured blobs to rate things, and turned into 'reader's digest' with the amount of special offers and advertising mailshots.
I said 'buggerm' and cancelled the subscription.
During the 1920s the LNER was investigating high speed trains, and the germans had a high speed diesel railcar and the swiss had some very clever electric technology.
Because the infrastructure was there and they were familiar with the manufacturing they rejected both alternatives and built the A4 streamliners. Ten years later Mallard went on to break the steam speed record, and steam traction remained king until the middle 1950s.
Now, in the 21st century, no-one would consider even diesel for high speed operations, and electric is everywhere. Steam is for hobbyists and museums. And yet, Mallard remains magnificent.
The comparison with hard disks? Well, given that the life of a railway locomotive is between 20 and 60 years, we are around 3-4 generations on from the decision not to buy the flying hamburger. What will storage look like in 3-4 generations? How long is a generation? 3 years?
Hard disks are cruising into their Mallard era, but the future won't stop there.
Predicting the future is easy. Getting it right is nearly impossible.
>You shouldn't have to be brave to fly.
30,000 feet up without a parachute in a thing with only just enough fuel to get there and only two engines? It's not a walk to the bottom of the garden, you know.
There are signs up prohibiting photography at uk passport control. What's the validity of those?
Too little, too late as far as I can see.
Difficult to tell from the way the photo is lit, but the "tapered edge" seems to go all the way to the middle, so laying it on the table and prodding might be difficult.
and 8 hours runtime is not a lot, is it?
But Apple sell complete systems.
When I buy a laptop from HP or a desktop from Dell I am NOT getting a Dell OS, I am getting one from a different company. And, as has been adequately reported above, if something goes wrong with that OS HP or Dell will shrug their shoulders and say "nothing to do with us". That is NOT what happens with Apple, and so the argument is different.
If HP or Dell are to give no support, then it seems unreasonable that they should insist you pay the OS tax.
I'e bought a laptop from them, and put Suse 10.2 on it, perfectly happy with it.
Can I also mention http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimus/ who also do not insist on the Microsoft tax.
Fair enough. Have you tried?
>If there's any blame it should be reserved purely for the resellers they should
>include an option to buy it with no software.
I've lost count of the number of times I've tried, and been told they are 'not allowed' to sell it without windows. M$ has them stitched up like a kipper.
>I know dell used to have an Ubuntu option
They had a very carefully hidden ubuntu option on one or two of their products. I tried to buy a mainstream laptop without windows and was refused.
... siunds like a good way to get yerself kneecapped
we were not trampled afoot by the rush.
I sympathise with Moz. I've blocked /every/ toolbar that tries to install itself. Why, for example, does a java update want to install a Yahoo toolbar? it's bollox, thats what it is.
I don't think that bad parodies like 'Vampires Suck' should be in the list, as it detracts from the chance to give a serious kicking to utterly dreadful things like SITC2, which deserves taking out and burning, as a nasty, sexist, racist piece of crap.
The boy Kermode does a nice line in rants, but Vampires Suck did not get one. Just a telling off for being a waste of time.
Where is the black hemisphere on the desk that I can think at and that does everything I want?