2833 posts • joined 8 Oct 2006
My 2d worth
Forget about Meego. It was another Linux spin-off, and there are plenty of those. There is no compelling reason why this one is different from any other. Moblin made some sort of sense when Intel thought it could squeeze windows out of netbooks and tablets to increase margins for it's chip customers. But Nokia has dropped the Maemo ball so many times that there is nothing worthwhile to pull out of the wreckage.
HTC and, to a lesser extent, HP and Samsung will offer WP7 phones for the rest of this year, then drop it like a hot potato: they already have somewhere else to go. This might be the inadvertent making of WebOs - or did HP read the writing on the wall when Mr Elop joined Nokia?
The big mystery is what will happen to low-end phones. Most of the world, from Nairobi to my wife's mother, don't want a smart phone: they want a cheap one. That makes phone calls. WPx will never be cheap, because M$ have a revenue mindset not a volume mindset.
This could be China's moment. OvTech, C-EASY, Huawei, and all the rest are waiting in the wings. They are more than ready. Hutchison Whampoa owns '3' and could easily want to join in. They have the world-wide contacts.
We are living, as they say, in interesting times.
over the threshold
I'm reminded of all those European folk tales where the evil one is invited into the house unrecognised, and then the inevitable happens...
In five years time
It will be:
*Chinese Android phones
*HP & WebOS
* The odd Samsung
err.. that's it.
"Some say his left leg runs on Vax microcode..."
The Inertial Dampers!
long time scale
This timescale is another US conspiracy - this time to cheat me out of my chance to go!
Unless Intel can persuade someone like Motorola, or some other once-mighty but sleeping phone company to join it, it might as well go find something else to play with. No MeeGo phones are going to come to market.
It does all make WebOs seem so much more attractive, doesn't it?
And the network guys over in the corner being grumpy old sods who dont agree with anything
Snore, snthak. what? What? eh?
Oh Sorry, did you want something important?
No, OK then.
I'll get back to, err, ...
I have been depressively predicting WebOs would be too little, too late. I have been excited by this announcement. if HP can pull it off, I'll be delighted. And, am already thinking of splashing out on the pad and the phone. Bring on the PC!
Anything that chips away at M$ smugness is good, too.
Nokia Digital Radio Headset DAB
I appear to have had a stroke, or something.
I keep reading that as "Nokia Hospital Radio Headset DAB"
Must be the headset associations.
Oh look, here comes someone with a white coat...
That would be especially handy if you spoke Strine, Danish, Swedish, (4languages), German, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Czech, Funny English, Cantonese, Malay, etc, etc.
I'll get me language lab disks
The complex processing has always meant that DAB is power-hungry. My Sony portable can eat 4xAA batteries in 8 hours.
What happens to the phones? what do nokia say happens?
There is something very interesting emerging.
Almost every reviewed android product still comes with 2.1 and 2.2 'promised'. This is at a time when android 3 is being talked about. Why on earth are people bringing products to market with an out-of-date OS on?
I would have thought that once the hardware design was stable that porting from 2.1 to 2.2 would be a breeze. It obviously isn't. And from what people say about e.g. Motorola once the porting is done manufacturers would rather cut their hands off than go do it again.
Now, compare that with debian or windows on the desktop. If version x will run then version x+1 is guaranteed to fall on without difficulty. I bet no-one has launched a vista based laptop this year.
Now I realise that android is cross-compiled, that the kernel and drivers are optimised for that particular hardware. But surely once all that work is done it should be transparent to versions? Are the hal layers really rip-up-and-start-again?
I think that the difficulty in getting the next version on, even for manufacturers, even before product launch, suggests that things need to be made a lot more consistent and simple. It doesn't sound like a finished product to me.
This looks like a huge achillies heel to me. Once the market buzz and fashion has worn off, are we going to find that android is another prommable but not upgradable OS?
Competition is good
This is how capitalism works. Jolly good, and good luck to them all. But it does rather smack of mee-tooo desperatism.
can no-one in the listed giants come up with an Original idea that we will all flock to?
BTW, U3 blows too,
I took great pleasure, whenever I removed U3 from a stick, in filling in the box which asked why.
Its a win-win for both companies?
Only if WP7 is any good. Since it doesn't seem to be, then you end up with more of a win-fail.
Clinging to the wreckage
It's customary to cling to something when you are in danger of sinking, but it seems to me that choosing WP7 would be like clinging to the wreckage of the engine, rather than to the lifeboat. Microsoft is clearly going down of its own accord.
I think Nokia might have made more of a success of meego or QT if it wasn't continually distracting itself re-engineering the same phones over and over again as new indistinguishable handsets, if it had not so consistently whored itself to dodgy network operators who wanted things that ticked all the buzzwords, but were so cheap they didn't actually do any of the things on the box well enough to be useful.
This is a worthless statistic. Like the time that Panasonic told the world that Microwave ovens were outselling electric cookers. it didn't mean microwaves were more popular, it just meant that everyone had an electric cooker already and they last four times as long as microwave ovens.
Most people who want a PC have already got one, at least in countries where people can afford smartphones. And you can easily make a PC last 5 years. Smartphones, especially those on contracts that offer upgrades, will be lucky to get to 2 years. That does not include any evidence that 'the smartphone is the new personal computer of choice'
This statistic is about as meaningful as saying that sheets of toilet paper out sell crinoline doll toilet roll covers. Tosh and drivel.
Damn good idea. Do it today!
you know, that's just what I was thinking
glue it to a peltier device and a passive heat sink, and robert's-yer-mothers-brother.
Large old area, mind, have to do the sums on the objective.
this is not a title
Just add to your /etc/network/interfaces.......
... simple as that, eh?
I'll get me granny on it straight away!
Why so much?
Because publishers are greedy scum who have no idea what happened to record companies?
why can't Plod think the same way?
I think You've spotted the problem right there.
for December 2010 only.
For some unfathomable reason it will be accumulating data from now on. Why historic data can't be included with a couple of quick SQL commands to populate it from the old data I can't imagine.
I suppose the police are going to be even busier now, dragging google map orange markers onto the place where Sharon says that Dave sent her a text threatening to slash her.
out of town
street-level mapping may preserve anonymity in metropolitan areas, but what about farming areas?
If you live in Guthram Gowt, and it says 1 violent crime (it doesn't today) then the equation is simple. Either you were beating your wife or the bloke over the road was. If it wasn't you, then he has lost anonymity.
Another instance of the people who run this country thinking that UK == London.
I accept the basic argument that digital does not always mean better - ask listeners to radio 3 if they prefer FM or DAB. I'm working in Germany at the moment and can use the car radio to get radio 5 on MW & radio 4 on LW. No plans for cross-border broadcasting by digital.
But the music industry is a poor model over which to argue. Digital music is a HUGE success. The record companies are hurting, but that is because they are (1) Dinosaurs who tried to prevent progress (2) turning out rubbish. I am reminded of the chap on 'The Now Show' who got the biggest round of applause I have ever heard for "Downloading isn't killing the music industry, Simon Cowell is killing the music industry".
You have to ask why ancient rockers, the Beatles, and old folkies are selling so well as downloads. Could it possibly be that, like Mariachi, you only need one Rap track and you have the whole genre? Could it be that the record companies in switching from A&R to managed production have killed their own golden-egg laying goose?
I've been collecting music from the 1930s and 1940s in the last few years. All paid for, of course. But even there the record companies show their greed. These tracks are out of copyright, but they slap copytheft protection on them by applying a digital filter or something and then charge the same as for living artists. The contempt they display for customers is obvious.
As log as you are politely asking the nasty people to be nice, this will be nothing more than gesturism.
We don't need to flag the users preferences, we need to get all the suppliers assessed and flagged somehow. Independently and legitimately.
Linux had a mountable gmail file system more or less from day 1. I used it, it was clever but slow. but very cool.
In the end we are all doomed
It doesn't matter where you end up, it matters how you got there.
There must be one born every minute.
how many of those have a job?
I'll get me PPE on & get back to work.
...ready to go
bye bye then
Nokia vs Android, Apple vs RIM
...Win7 Vs brick?
and contiue to do so
Although bing still has 'move the red circle' I've no idea why. In Multimap you could use it to display the co-ordinates of a point in Lat/Long, eastings/Northngs, and OS grid reference. M$ have removed that.
OK, Mr Graham Jones, get you back to Hyndburn and poke your feckless constituents with a stick until one of them starts a world-class technology based on a seriously good education and an understanding of how to do things in a way that no-one has tried before.
Before anyone asks how I know they are feckless, they voted Labour at the last election. Not all of them, of course, but probably not all of them are feckless.
"a massive gap in British security has opened".
No, I think not. A plane 10 years late and still not in service was already a massive gap.
Bring back the shacks, I say
you think you can trust a taxi driver...
... And, of course, there is nothing wrong in getting in a taxi when you can't pay for it.
UK proximity payments by phone this summer
... Nowhere near me, they won't be.
They lost me
I was a member of the Consumer Association back in the 1960s. When they tested something then they put the actual measurements in the report. Round about 1971 they switched to coloured blobs to rate things, and turned into 'reader's digest' with the amount of special offers and advertising mailshots.
I said 'buggerm' and cancelled the subscription.
During the 1920s the LNER was investigating high speed trains, and the germans had a high speed diesel railcar and the swiss had some very clever electric technology.
Because the infrastructure was there and they were familiar with the manufacturing they rejected both alternatives and built the A4 streamliners. Ten years later Mallard went on to break the steam speed record, and steam traction remained king until the middle 1950s.
Now, in the 21st century, no-one would consider even diesel for high speed operations, and electric is everywhere. Steam is for hobbyists and museums. And yet, Mallard remains magnificent.
The comparison with hard disks? Well, given that the life of a railway locomotive is between 20 and 60 years, we are around 3-4 generations on from the decision not to buy the flying hamburger. What will storage look like in 3-4 generations? How long is a generation? 3 years?
Hard disks are cruising into their Mallard era, but the future won't stop there.
Predicting the future is easy. Getting it right is nearly impossible.
oh come on!
>You shouldn't have to be brave to fly.
30,000 feet up without a parachute in a thing with only just enough fuel to get there and only two engines? It's not a walk to the bottom of the garden, you know.
There are signs up prohibiting photography at uk passport control. What's the validity of those?
Too little, too late as far as I can see.
Difficult to tell from the way the photo is lit, but the "tapered edge" seems to go all the way to the middle, so laying it on the table and prodding might be difficult.
and 8 hours runtime is not a lot, is it?
But Apple sell complete systems.
When I buy a laptop from HP or a desktop from Dell I am NOT getting a Dell OS, I am getting one from a different company. And, as has been adequately reported above, if something goes wrong with that OS HP or Dell will shrug their shoulders and say "nothing to do with us". That is NOT what happens with Apple, and so the argument is different.
If HP or Dell are to give no support, then it seems unreasonable that they should insist you pay the OS tax.
I'e bought a laptop from them, and put Suse 10.2 on it, perfectly happy with it.
Can I also mention http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimus/ who also do not insist on the Microsoft tax.
Just don't buy that machine!
Fair enough. Have you tried?
>If there's any blame it should be reserved purely for the resellers they should
>include an option to buy it with no software.
I've lost count of the number of times I've tried, and been told they are 'not allowed' to sell it without windows. M$ has them stitched up like a kipper.
>I know dell used to have an Ubuntu option
They had a very carefully hidden ubuntu option on one or two of their products. I tried to buy a mainstream laptop without windows and was refused.
a scam directed at fleecing cybercrooks
... siunds like a good way to get yerself kneecapped
we were not trampled afoot by the rush.
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