* Posts by Dave 15

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Train-knackering software design blunder discovered after lightning sparked Thameslink megadelay

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Re: and basically impossible to test for.

Manufacturers are under continual pressure to ship product to make profit, testing, or even ignoring inconvenient test findings are an easy shortcut to take.

This is becoming more of a problem with more complex products, but even basic ones arent actually tested these days.... after all after 100 years of the motorcar it appears the modern designers are not capable of designing lights where I both know the light has malfunctioned AND can fix it by the side of the road. Hell they cant even sort out a way of preventing my phone, keys, loose change coming out of my pocket and falling in a gap between the seat and centre console where it is impossible to ever reach them again! Not that car manufacturers (who want us to believe that despite these shortcomings they are capable of creating a self driving car we can put our lives in the 'hands' of) but everyone else... how many laptops do YOU have festering in the corner because the power connector fell off the board? I have a collection waiting for the trip to the skip. Or mobile phones that cant answer calls and whose charge connector is such a poor fit you cant charge without hours of patient fiddling (my shiteberry running android manages both of those in one go, to the point I use a 10 year old Nokia for most things and the shiteberry ONLY for the google authenticator app I need for work).

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Re: Bugger

I would have thought trivial to test.

I would also have suggested that it is a stupid requirement. Sensibly designed I refuse to believe that a restarting a train would cause electrocution for anyone on board however damaged individual components are... if you can show that some damage could lead to a short from power to the passengers and from via them to earth I think you need to have a little redesign of the hardware not some horrendous and ill conceived software hack.

Leaving passengers stranded for hours is not a good idea. Recently had the same problem on a German train - the overhead wire came down - after 4 hours the emergency lighting had failed, eventually rescue involved several firecrews with torches and flood lights, a spare train, stopping all other lines nearby - total palava. It somehow reminds me a few years ago that it required Tornado... a new steam engine... to travel around Kent rescuing new fangled electric trains from the snow.

IT exec sets up fake biz, uses it to bill his bosses $6m for phantom gear, gets caught by Microsoft Word metadata

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Re: idiot

You SHouldnt need to scrub the data... its not relevant to anyone and shouldnt be there. I object to this sort of behaviour and MS are the worst for it. No wonder their products are getting ever less popular. After windows 10 I can 100% guarantee I am NOT buying another windows based PC and no MS office or similar products.

Senior health tech pros warn NHS England: Be transparent with mass database trawl or face public backlash

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Backlash? Why should they care?

Honestly, there is sod all we can actually do short of a major revolt and burning Whitehall down. People vote the same parties regardless because they are stupid and tribal. How long before someone shows how the anonymous data can be traced back to you as an individual? We have allowed a monster to grow for 50 years and it is eating us for lunch

Beware the trainee with time on his hands and an Acorn manual on his desk

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you couldnt

They werent square so you couldnt fit it a quarter turn out and they had one corner cut off on the front edge so you couldnt put them upside down or back to front.

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as I recollect

Blank 5.25" had a cut out ready in hem (regardless of the 'size') and a pack of little silver tabs to cover he whole when you wanted to write protect it.

The 3.5" had a sliding plastic clip which covered a hole or not (as I recollect covered meant you could write it, removing the plastic slider was supposed to make it permanently read only), again I dont recollect this read only hole having anything at all to do with capacity switching

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nah...

I had a posh screen, could have, orange or green... by a button on the vdu

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tapes, discs... luxury

compared to toggling in from a front panel

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Tape??

Mag tape, or punched paper??? :)

I don't want to go on the cart! Windows 10 Mobile hauls itself from the grave one last time

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Re: The end of Ballmer's dream

If Microsoft get hold of Linux they will turn it into the same crock of shite as windows 10. After all a messdos wasnt actually too bad despite its nickname and lack of documentation. Windows 3 was okish, NT wasnt too bad but it has been a down hill slide since then. Not sure what the problem is but if they actually used their own stuff they would fix it

BlackBerry tells UK High Court that security outfit SentinelOne is its direct rival

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Not sure anyone should care

Bought a new Blackberry android phone because it had a keyboard

Charger cable doesnt fit... nor does any other... they wobble around and a sneeze in the same room will stop the phone charging

The back started falling apart in under a week so I had to buy it a case

The software (Android) is so pathetic that:

a) When trying to open my call log I can go and make a cup of tea... and drink it

b) 50% of the time I answer a call (UK SIM in Germany or Sweden) I can hear the others but they cant hear me

40% of the time I answer a call and cant hear them

10% of the time I answer a call and I am so astonished it works I am rushed to A&E with a suspected heart attack

Add to this that I have had more than a couple of unexpected restarts for now obvious reason (assume Android crashed)

I use whatsapp to get around (b) but that whats app doesnt have the UI to allow me to answer a call if I happen to be using any other feature on the application

So all in all, I now spend more time using my old Nokia S60 phone - it also has a keyboard (because it is landscape and slides from behind the screen its better) , it works, it answers calls, its battery lasts better and it isnt falling apart despite being about 5 years older than the Blackberry. Oh how I wish the BBC had not been so anti British and promoted the Apple as a god like figure, or that Nokia hadnt employed some nasty little piece of work from Microsoft who has a wonderful brain... its intact, never used and not stressed by ever even knowing how little solid info it contains.

What’s that Skippy? Google’s coughed up $330m in tax Down Under?

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Yeah well

I think I should pay tax at a similar rate to Google... so maybe HMRC would care to wait until I am dead and buried before collecting the 1p I might owe them by then?

It is utterly inexplicable that governments STILL dont get this, STOP charging business on 'profit' as this is far too easily shipped to a foreign tax haven, start charging on sales. I pay my tax on my income NOT on my profit from going to work. Indeed all the moves by HMRC against contractors are exactly to stop contractors paying tax on profit instead of sales. A level playing field is needed, how can a corner shop or cafe compete against a supermarket or chain coffee shop that exports all its profit to a zero tax tax haven?

Royal Bank of Scotland IT contractor ban sparks murmurs of legal action

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simple answer

All contractors at RBS should quit en masse. Not too difficult to arrange. Even if they tried to run off to India they're not going to replace the whole lot

IT contractor has £240k bill torn up after IR35 win against UK taxman

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If only

If only they stopped allowing starbucks, tesco and the rest from offshore profits to tax havens by paying fees to use trademarks to head office which match profits then they would not need to come extracting the colons of un protected hard working contractors

Concerns raised over privacy and security of UK Home Office's £842m biometrics programme

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Ffks

The BIGGEST problem with this story is that HMG has once again shifted the British workforce by spending our money abroad. That's millions of tax money taken from our economy so killing thousands of jobs for engineers, office builders, furniture makers, food suppliers etc etc, raising the costs of benefits and by reducing demand in the UK for developers pushing down salaries and therefore tax take. the bozos in charge here have no idea at all of basic economics, they should all go on a gcse course and learn some very basics. Their stupidity knows no bounds. How many engineers here could have done that job but are sitting at home unemployed? Lots. And that is before you remember that under American law hug have just made all our data automatically available to the nsa

Junior minister says gov.UK considering facial recognition to verify age of p0rn-watchers

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Re: This bit at least makes sense...

Perhaps having a clue about your kids friends could be considered part of good parenting? There is also bound to be porn available in the playground, there was even when I was a kid and it was still on paper... if it wasn't stuck together

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Re: House of Commons

Or tax them if the poor do one ... after all a fart contains methane, very bad for the environment

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A simple solution?

Why not get parents to actually look after their kids? After all I can pretty much guarantee that the little darlings will find what they want on an offshore site with no record

We're going deeper Underground: Vulture clicks claws over London's hidden tracks

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Environmentally friendly

So royal mails contribution to London environment is to use diesel vans to do the work of an existing dedicated electric railway... leaving vans choking the streets in traffic jams and ensuring mail is late. Of course it is now owNed by a great company, Germany being the proud user of Europe's largest co2 producing coal fired electricity station (not for them following eu rules as we did and eating rid of coal) you almost couldn't make it up

Kiss my ASCII, Microsoft – we've got one million fewer daily active users than you, boasts Slack

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Hard to imagine

I find it hard to imagine how teams could be worse than it is, I have to use it at work, nothing is ever locate, click on a link in outlook and it spends 20 minutes spinning up a browser in order to decide to switch to the app. I can't stop it blurting crap all over the corner of my screen and sucking he'll out of my processor

Here we go again: US govt tells Facebook to kill end-to-end encryption for the sake of the children

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Re: "Outside the digital world, none of us would accept the proposition that"

It is exactly that.

Dave 15

Re: "Outside the digital world, none of us would accept the proposition that"

Point is this allows them to do this to every household every day. Worse is that the mechanism will be the equivalent to leaving your doors and windows open, a cup of tea and instructions for the thief to where everything valuable is.

Usual I'll thought through crap from stupid idiot law makers. Why the he'll do people give these morons any power or responsibility?

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Re: "Outside the digital world, none of us would accept the proposition that"

But if they went battering everyone door down every day and went through your underwear people would not accept that. Having a backdoor or front door in security means they can do the equivalent, and just as smashing everyone's door down they render everyone vulnerable to criminals

We're all doooooomed: Gloomy Brit workforce really isn't coping well with impending Brexit

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Re: When to move abroad

The eu pours some (not all) of our money back into projects the Eu approves of. The UK has often voted to avoid being isolated so it appears at the centre less the BBC start moaning. The UK is the only country that takes eu regulation to the extreme rather than avoiding it, see the Germans approach to best value purchasing is that anything funded by the German tax payer has to be made in Germany to have any value. The French do a similar thing, in neither country do you find a single foreign built police car or council wagon. In the Uk we have taken best value to mean whatever tips the most into the chief constables back pocket so there are no British vehicles in the Uk police fleet. Note that until quite recently bribes paid to gain business could be discounted against tax in germany

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Re: When to move abroad

And just today the financial Times is reporting yet more calls for a common European budget. Remainers, you lost because the lies of 1975 are exposed, the United States of Europe and the demise of the UK and guaranteed if we remain. Note when we do that the eu want private health care like they have in Germany so the nh will also go - probably bough by one of the very expensive highly profitable German health insurance companies. As with all purchases of British companies by European ones this will mean redundancies and jobs moving abroad

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Re: When to move abroad

The election went exactly as may planned it. Look at every announcement she made during the may focussed campaign, it was deliberately a plan to lose, or at least nearly lose the election. From that no conservative majority therefore no chance of pursuing brexit. She then spent 3 years creating a bring with the devastating side effects of giving the EU even more than if we had stayed at the same time getting even less. Indeed Johnson's current problems are a result of her election so she has managed to screw the next pm as well as the while damned country

Dave 15

Re: When to move abroad

Actually the professionals have been screwed by the eu as well, it's just most of them are thicker than pigshit and can't understand.. Frankly the remainers really should look into facts rather than carry on unabated drivel. The only ones who have benefited in any meaningful way are the very rich who own the companies taking cheap foreign labour and backhand for locating new factories in Slovenia and poland

Hacker House shoved under UK Parliament's spotlight following Boris Johnson funding allegs

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Based in the UK?

When the idiot labour mayor of London bought thousands of Mercedes buses did anyone ask if Mercedes were based in the UK? What about all those BMW ministerial cars or police vehicles?

Or for that matter the money poured into Microsoft to develop a software apprentice program when there was already a British company doing one?

No, the truth here is that the establishment is smearing Johnson because they want to stop brexit, the people voted incorrectly because the people were too stupid, thick and misled to not believe the establishments assertions that being subjugated to Germany was in our best interests

Fairytale for 2019: GNOME to battle a patent troll in court

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I have put in a patent application

Simple the patent covers anything that does anything possibly using energy from an internal or external source

Reckon it will sail through

Good news: Microsoft is doubling your OneDrive storage for more than double your money

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Remind me

Just how much is a 2 tb disk? How many months of renting somewhere your competitors, the USA or anyone else can check? And yes your rented space is backed up right until the company decides not

Bug fixes abound in Microsoft's freshly Cascadia fonted Windows Terminal

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I would rather

I would rather they stopped dicking around with fonts and moving settings, apps and other sit around and did something useful like getting rid of the bugs that lead to blue screens, the bugs that mean stuff doesn't work, the bugs that reset things like the credential guard after reboots and the unbelievably piss poor slow performance of their bloated bug ridden shit

£1bn UK justice system digitisation scheme in massive delay shocker

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I wonder

I wonder which large european (probably French) consultancy is being paid for this? A billion is a huge amount, the money is almost certainly going at roughly 1500 an engineer per day, mostly to their bank but a small amount of it to a bunch of Indians in Bangalore. Our government never seems to , from the NHS to police cars and now this, buying foreign damages our economy, and when it comes to software always fails

Wall Street analyst slashes HP Inc's share rating amid mounting worries over printer supplies declines

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Re: You think?

My HP printer went for recycling, I put in decent ink cartridges, it printed but said they werent HP then eventually just refused to print any more. Frankly I am NOT being held to ransom by a snot nosed company so their product is in the bin and I will never buy anything with HP on it again, anything, whatever it is

Mainstream auto makers stuff in more self-driving tech: 8% of new Euro cars have Level 2 smarts

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Re: Level 2 smarts ?

cruise control was capable via mechanical means. staying in lane was prety well dealt witg using rails. given the state of the software development I have witnessed in 3 german and a couple of other companies 'i wouldnt trust the software to switch on the heater

Science and engineering hit worst as Euroboffins do a little Brexit of their own from British universities

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Re: Brexit bollocks

We have more than enough money here to invest, cut the rewards for being a piss poor manager in the board room or a banker (either rhyming slang or otherwise). Sort out tax system so that Starbucks, Tesco et al pay their proper share of tax here. Create a government backed investment scheme like the one we had in the 1930s and create a situation where the UK government only buys form the UK, even supplies foreign aid as UK produced goods and the investment will flow again... it is currently a mess because it is ok to stick a JLR factory in Slovenia and send the goods here.

At the same time lets create the nuclear powerstations we need to create cheap energy, we have a whole pile of suitable generating capacity in the nuclear subs locked up on the south coast awaiting destruction.

Dave 15

Re: Brexit bollocks

The issue of health insurance is interesting. The Germans already have private health insurance, the EU like to copy Germany so are likely to be already working on such instructions (after all it fits nicely with their competition narrative). The EU also want a trade deal with the USA, they are not above deciding to do one and perhaps in so doing leaving the EU health service open to USA competition. Once they do this (probably with UK civil servants approval because they are on back handers) it will be the EU that is to blame for it in the eyes of our politicians and media so once again our guys will be able to duck censure for it. IF bojo et al head down the route of selling out the nhs to the usa in a post brexit Britain they will be the ones doing the damage and likely destroying their electoral chances. If I read our power grabbing politicians right losing the next election will be so unpallateable that the nhs will remain safe if we are out. Might seem a bit odd for remainers but I think out the nhs is safer.

Before someone mentions chlorinated chicken, what you buy is up to you, but chicken washed in tap water isnt bad, and we drink chlorinated water, swim in it, bath (or shower) in it... I havent died of it yet though I am sure it would be possible if you crank the concentration high enough. On the other hand we have been subjected to German pork raised indoors in pens they cant turn around in and slaughtered by a knife in the guts and bleeding out on the concrete slatted pen they lived out their miserable battery farmed lives in full view of their neighbours who are about to receive the same knife. And the horrors of Polish and German raised beef and milk products extracted from cows kept in battery farms, frankly all of that is a whole lot less palatable. The EU also insist on animals being transported to slaughter houses instead of being swiftly disposed of in the field they lived in etc. as we used to do.

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Re: Brexit bollocks

Clearly you need to get your brain installed and stop reading the BBC.

1) The areas that voted out are among those that have been hit worst by membership and the associated diabolical implementation of EU rules by our low intelligent and disasterous civil servants egged on by the even less desirable and effective politicians (of all political persuations)

2) Leaving is not a left/right divide, it is a divide between those who can think, can read history, can look at the disaster of the last 40 years and understand its causes and the remainers who just lap up the bbc bollox about 'Cambridge voted to stay and has lots of degrees so it follows the intelligent vote to stay... only it doesnt follow at all, it follows only that in Cambridge a disproportionate number of people are rich enough to have had their degrees oaid for by daddy and want to be able to go to their French villa).

3) Its partly not an excuse, but it has to be said that the real problem about benefit bums is the benefit system. If a benefit bum gets off their backside and goes and helps farmer bill with the harvest it will take months to get the benefits reinstated while farmer bill pays totally shite wages because of all the polish that will pick the harvest for peanuts. Fix the real problem, a civil service designed benefit system whose major design criteria was creating more civil service jobs in the department (see yes minister for more examples)

4) most of pension age have some pension provision so are actually pretty unlikely to be affected. If the economy does indeed tank (and there are good explanations why it shouldnt but possibly will - all revolving around poor management, poor civil service planning and piss poor mps) the ones that will be hurt most are the usual middle class suspects trying to earn a living, seeing wages continue to stagnate and taxes rise. As you can tell from the ever shrinking armed forces, ever raising taxes and the falling wages of the last 40 years this wont really be any different to the situation we voted to get out of.

5) No one reads the daily mail, anyone stupid enough to buy a tabloid only does it for the cartoons... used to be page 3, but thats gone

6) Will Labour be any better? I hope not, perhaps if both parties are destroyed some people might stop voting the way they vote because they always have and their parents did etc etc which is the mess that leads to stupid voters, poor mps, fraud, cheating, appaling laws created by wedges of cash in back pockets (all of our laws for the last 60 or more years) and the we dont give a damn about you voters attitude. So ripping parties apart is a very good and much over due outcome

7) We might lose one of the more amusing politicians, though like losing any of our current politicians (indeed I think any politician I have heard about in 40 years or more), losing bojo will have bugger all effect on the mess the country is in - as yes minister and yes prime minister demonstrate fully, the civil service run the country not our lazy pathetic politicians

8) Who? Thought he had already gone.

Your last comment really is stupid. There is nothing to keep you in the UK, if you think that Spain for example is so much more of a success then you can live there. If you are already abroad then I expect I understand your stupidity and arrogance, you are probably hoping no other country has the guts to say no to the EUs united states of europe pretentions.

On a more practical note there is no reason for the economy to tank.

Decide what are strategic industries... aerospace, vehicle manufacturing (cars, vans,lorries), railway equipment and infrastructure manufacturing, ships, tank, guns, bombs etc. electronics (including silicon), food, mining, energy and a few others, protect with large tariff barriers and invest in them from a government fund, and most importantly buy from them (no more bmw police cars). This will allow them to create the new plant, new machinery, new jobs that we need to compete. For strategic industry overcome tariff barriers to the EU (the only new ones anyway) by adjusting tax rates for export goods.

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So...

We dont have a decline in EU academics, they just arent increasing as fast? Thats not surprising, they get better paid and more respect in other institutions.

Next we will hear how there is a decline in foreign students coming here to study science, nothing of course to do with sloppy courses with vast price tags when compared to free university education in such places as Germany, a place I might add that could provide engineers with jobs that pay above minimum wage (unlike the UK who peg all engineer salaries to the cleaners or Bangalore, which ever is cheaper)

Ohm my God: If you let anyone other than Apple replace your recent iPhone's battery, expect to be nagged by iOS

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Re: Others are at it

Changing part of the equipment is not tampering, its repairing. We are supposed to be changing to a more sustainable, more environmentally friendly society. Repairing goods and keeping them running longer is part of that. One of the worst bits of UK legislation is that which prevents charities selling electrical goods without massive expense and hoops, the next worse is the one that encourages local councils to prevent you taking parts or other reusable items from tips. (When I was young this is where some of my bikes came from, they were all repaired and used safely for many years, my first TVs arrived the same way as did my lawnmower, all good, and all a lot better for the environment than recycling - particularly the recycling that means cutting up, shipping to China, melting down to ingots, then melting and casting and shipping all the way back).

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Not the only ones

Chucked my HP printer in the recycling, it at first complains about non HP ink cartridges and then refuses to print. If I am happy with the print quality from the non HP cartridges then it is MY choice about using them.

Some cars now complain and wont work if you replace parts from one car with those from another

It is ridiculous. These things should leave the manufacturer open to having the product returned as unsuitable for reasonable use and forced to issue a refund covering the purchase price, postage, compensation for the loss of use (perhaps the cost of the equipment per day... lets say a minimum assumption of 10 days plus their refund time).

This sort of practice needs stamping out and hard. Unfortunately most of these manufacturers are dumping great stacks of cash in the back pocket of governments and legislation to prevent the practice is not forth coming

Lyft pulls its e-bike fleet from San Francisco Bay Area after exploding batteries make them the hottest seat in town

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hire cars? Gear changes?

Get a decent car (i have Vauxhall) and you only need the clutch to pull away, it will happly change gear with no crunch or damage. Indeed IF you are a SKILLED driver you can change gear like this in any car - I regularly do clutchless changes in a 1959 Morris Minor, again without crunching.

As for squealing tyres and reving the balls off it I am afraid thats just the stupidity and ignorance of the average driver these days. 40mph on holiday camp sites, 50 in town centres where there are childrenand pedestrians on holiday at the seaside.

This year in Cornwall an arsehole broke his door mirror on my arm in such a place. Unfortunately he didnt stop or I would have broken the rest of his car on the rectums face.

'Transformation' at Capita: Profits? Down. Revenue? Down. Order book? You guessed it

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Re: So...

Civil servants, councillors, even ministers, dont work on what is good for the UK, dont work on what is sensible or logical, they work purely on what puts most cash in their back pocket quickest. Bribary and corruption in the UK far exceeds anything in any part of the middle or far east. Amazingly one MP failed to get reelected afte cheating, I think thats actually a first for the UK

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Flame

capita profits

I wonder how much of those profits come from kicking disabled and terminally ill people off benefits and hoping they will be dead (by suicide, disease, starvation or cancer) before their appeals can be heard and the decision over turned.

Seems crapita have been doing a lot of this

Ouch. Reinstalling Windows 10 again? By 2020, a 'cloud download' may be all you need

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I wonder

Given the speed of my windows 10 machine I wonder how anyone has enough time or patience to break theirs?

I left mine in a cupboard a month back because it decided it needed to reboot, its still thinking how to do it.

Behold the might of dynamic crimefighting duo Captain Met Police and the Microsoft Kid

Dave 15

Re: Criminal Negligence?

You mean the police? Could be considered a waste of pubic money but most of the time the police are kept off the street and in the office, thus cutting the number of criminals wandering around our towns

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They want the data, the data is about criminals (or should be)

The US will easily justify access to the data, data on many criminals and all those fingerprints, faces etc etc (much of it of course illegally held but the police have a habit of holding on to data even when told to get rid of it)

The US will just say that it is possible that one of those people might be tied up with a crime in the US and they will gain access.

Even better for the CIA etc. given that they have acceess to the data they can ensure any data about their people in the UK mysteriously disappears or gets altered a little

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er... integrity... police....

Doesnt belong in the same sentance to be honest

'Bent copper'.... harder to find a straight one, they are more than a bit like politicians..

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I wonder

I wonder how much of a better, more secure, more usable and more stable system they could have achieved by paying that money to a bunch of UK software engineers?

The cloud means being tied to the whims and prices of the suppliers, not being able to retrieve your information (lost a load of emails when tesco pulled the plug on their email service because the mails didnt all come across as promissed), really stuffed having stupidly signed up to gmail where I cant change my email information, export or apparently cancel the contract...

Besides our government should not be sharing our information with other governments, particularly not hostile ones like the yanks (Trump in partlcular... I wonder, who blew up the tanker and posed for the video... why is it I suspect the Americans more than the Iranians?). Anyone who believes the NSA isnt able to read everything and anything on any of the cloud services... Microsoft, Amazon etc etc is just barking mad.

Large Redmond Collider: CERN reveals plan to shift from Microsoft to open-source code after tenfold license fee hike

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Well

I have moved at home and have started moving at work. Windows 10 is such a crock of shit that I would rather learn something new than listen to my laptops fan blasting away as the processor sweats its way through the crap code that means a noticeable delay between pressing a key and the symbols appearance on the screen. Forced updates, broken code, horrendous UI, apps you cant ditch (I mean my home laptop before I moved it on used to complain it didnt have space to update but wouldnt let me remove groove music... whatever the hell that was)

If MS dont want to lose the rest of the world I suggest they start shipping windows 3 again, it was lots better than the current crap!

Gonna be so cool when we finally get into space, float among the stars, work out every day, inject testosterone...

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Missing test

Why did they not give one group the chance to lie around in bed with testosterone injections... or were they worried about the build up of one muscle at the expense of others?