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If the choices on the table are "spend $10M to make the problem go away" or "spend $4B to make the problem go away" then spending $10M is more rational. Assuming it's possible given the political and economic realities that surround the issue.
If, however, the choice is between spending $4B to deal with the issue and not dealing with the issue at all, I say we deal with the issue and fuck the greedy "people" (and I use the term exceedingly loosely) that feel $32 per device is too much to pay for the lives of their fellow human beings.
Your presentation of the options on the table made it seem that the $10M option was not political feasible and that our choices had become "spend the $4B to deal with the problem" or "don't deal with the problem at all."
Alternative or more efficient solutions than $4B to solve this issue would be ideal. Unless you're a fucking sociopath, not dealing with the problem at all is absolutely unacceptable.
So hey, let's get viable options on the table and a means to move towards them. If, however, the more rational avenues are blocked, we still have an ethical obligation to proceed using whatever means are, in fact, available.
So just exactly what is the cash sum value of a human life? Or a rape? ...a maiming?
When is it "too much to pay"? $0.10 per phone? $10 per phone? $100 per phone?
What if morality in this regard is a cost with no benefits expressed as a cash sum at all?
Fuck 'em if they can't cope with dying for our fondleslabs? I truly am curious.
$4B a year seems pretty goddamned insignificant if we're talking about 2B devices, which is about what this says is the global consumption rate. That's $2 a phone. Is $2 /device "too much?"
What if we're only talking about $4B to cover units shipped into the USA? That's $4B across 125M devices. That's $32 per device. Is $32 /device "too much?"
I'm legitimately curious. I would sure as hell hope that every human being on earth's answer to that question would be the exact same, but I am all to painfully aware of the number of sociopaths that inhabit our world.
I would surely love it if we could get the kind of international cooperation together required to have all the refineries and all the chip spinners do their part and turn Billions of dollars of regulatory cost into a meager few million in externally-monitored self regulation.
Unfortunately, we have no way to compel many of these companies to agree to such a scheme or to enforce their compliance. They are beyond our jurisdiction. So instead we have to act on the "little guy" and use their market pressure to keep the multinationals in check.
Shitty, but there you have it.
I will gladly pay an additional $32 per device to ensure my widgets are sourced from conflict-free sources. Frankly, I'm fucking appalled that there are people who wouldn't. I am ashamed to be a member of the same species as those individuals and I consider anyone who finds that "too much to pay" as no different in my mind from the bastards perpetuating these horrific crimes: both groups view the life and suffering of another sapient being as irrelevant to their own selfish, petty desires.
How much is too much? And isn't a solution - even if it is not the most efficient solution - better than letting this sort of shit continue?
We must each answer these questions for ourselves.
Re: The only way to take cisco down
Text ads are fine. Static images are fine. Moving images are...well, I find them annoying enough that I block them most places, but I don't have a strong technical argument for it and I recognise the moral argument against it.
I'm sorry, but the "moral rights" of advertisers simply don't extend to "opening a security hole on my system through which I could be infected."
I also totally randomise my browser informaiton for each session and tab so their tracking is useless. I'll allow them to display ads to me, but my privacy isn't for sale.
Everything is justified because
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Re: Canada was first
Canada isn't quite so cavalier with privacy as the commenter above makes us out to be. There is a difference between "a targets and specific breach of individual privacy in order to save that selfsame individual's life" (medical records at an ER or with explicit permission to private medical facilities) and giving wide ranging access to the kinds of information that can ruin a person's life.
The insurance company is a great example. So, for that matter, is allowing an employer (or a jury) to review a record of accusations/juvenile misdemeanors, etc. This is why many items (especially for minors) "fall off"* a person's record after a given amount of time. (At least here in Canada.)
*All items on your police record are, in fact, permanent. That said, many are considered "inaccessible" after expiry for the purposes of background checks, etc. Police can still view your juvie record when investigating, and it will probably be taken into account if you go for a serious security clearance, but the insurance company or bank isn't going to get to see that you had a red light ticket 7 years ago or were accused/arrested for (but never convicted) of any number of things. Which, frankly, is as it should be.
It's easy to make an "investment" involving privacy...
...when the privacy you're investing is someone else's.
Re: And what about the DR plan if a critical supplier goes out of business?
Pano's stuff eventually got bought up and support was provided to existing clients. I think that's a far more common scenario in the IT industry than simply vanishing into the void. "An established client base" is still a valuable commodity; someone will buy it.
The bigger issue is those transition periods. What do you do between the point where a Pano Logic (or a Nirvanix) goes off the air and the point where the deals are done and their customer base is purchased during the fire sale?
Personally, I advocate the "keeping spares on the shelf" policy as much as possible. (Licenses, physical devices, etc.) How does one do that with Cloud Computing??? The only "keeping spares on the shelf" version of Cloudy computing I can see is Microsoft's CloudOS (on prem, service provider, Azure trifecta making it unlikely you'll lose access to all systems capable of hosting your infrastructure) or VMware (same deal as CloudOS, just less refined.)
Whether or not that constitutes "industry standard best practices" depends entirely on who's paying whom. Cloud providers will say such concerns are unwarranted and unnecessary. "Get of my goddamned lawn" coalface sysadmins like myself generally prefer the paranoia route. Each person will have to decide on their own.
My Alienware MX18 still uses the original OS install, runs like stink and works like a charm. Don't know what you're on about, Windows 7 solved a lot of the crap that keeps endpoint weenies employed.
Though there's good money in "where the fuck is..." regarding Microsoft Tiles 8.11 for fondlegroups.
Re: Oh dear
There's plenty of evidence of pre-Clovis cultures.
Re: I want Google
No shit. I'd buy a few hundred, I think. One for each of the vExperts, at least. ;)
Even Better: Google could donate all profits to a charity. The EFF, say?
Re: I estimate
Funny, I was thinking of buying 4...
This app does not work with Office 2013 RT
So why the fuck should anyone else code apps for that platform, is Microsoft can't be assed to do it? Hmm?
"Engaging" with the younger generation...
...is useless if you don't actual listen to anyone, regardless of age.
Let me be loud and clear to Cisco, and they won't need social media to grok it:
Cisco, the world loathes you and your worthless, overpriced products because they are (drumroll) worthless and overpriced. There are a handful of things you make that noone else can touch. That's your anchor. Everything else is being undercut left and right.
Cisco, if you want to stop bleeding customers, lower your prices and make your products dynamic, admissible via API and maybe even advance to the point that your interface is something other than a requirement to memorize 500 pages of arcane CLI. I don't know if you noticed, Cisco, but nobody actually likes CCXXes. They're arrogant, egotistical pricks who cost way to much. When your competitors are offering widgets that are as fast as yours, allow companies to bin the expensive douchnozzle (running networks with any old sysadmin or developer) and do it for a quarter the price...why the fuck would anyone buy from you?
What? "Huawei is backdoored by the Chinese government" you say? How - exactly - is that different from you? China, the USA, it's all the same. Both foreign powers trying to turn the rest of us into serfs. So that doesn't work.
"Stability, reliability, blah-blah enterprise something marketing gobleddy gook?" Hate to say, buddy, but Juniper works a hot damn, so does HP, Arista, Dell...even Supermicro! Most don't need - or want - the majority of shit in your routers and those that do would can get it better elsewhere.
You exist on inertia and some core routing products that noone else can duplicate. Soon, Arista will take the latter part of that away from you. After that, where are you? Relying on your religious fanatics to advocate on your behalf? That's only going to get you so far.
...we hate the religious nutjobs evangelising your overpriced tat almost as much as we hate the tat itself.
If you need social media to figure out the above, you're doomed.
Re: A Wasteful Stunt
Bull. Robotic terraforming of other worlds is worth 1000x any manned mission. We should be taming these worlds for our use. Starting with a permanent installation on Ceres to provide fuel for our ships.
Re: Oops. I'm ten years behind
Nah, gotta say, LibreOffice has done for me for the past few years. Office 2003 is still on my main VM, but when I upgrade to Fedora 20 - Weylan/Weston/FreeRDP, baby.! WOO! - it will be Libreoffice.
Being better than Ballmer isn't hard. But a government/military teat-sucker doesn't know the first thing about providing anything to the mass market. If what you want is bulletproof software that only the top 10% of companies and individuals in the G8 can afford, then your advice is sound.
If, however, you want to see Microsoft provide quality software for the majority of the world then you need someone like Nadella.
What you preach would turn Microsoft into something even more restrictive than Oracle. Maybe that's what you want...but it would certainly be a complete and utter clusterfuck for ht rest of the world that currently relies on Microsoft. The transition to "a vendor they can afford" would be messy, it would be expensive and it would be full of security holes and missteps that could well set IT innovation back a decade.
The whole world would be so busy reinventing the wheel that they wouldn't have time to innovate...and there would be IT for "us" and IT for "them." A digital divide that even generations of effort would be unable to erase.
Like it or not, Microsoft of today is one of the only vendors bringing enterprise-class software to the masses. They are a major force for commoditisation. I'm pretty sure plane boy would end that virtually overnight.
Nadella or bust. Can the rest of the fuckers in charge and bring in proper engineers. Focus on making good products better and delivering what the customer wants. If you need to use metrics, use them to inform decisions, not to justify them. Above all, listen to your customers and potential customers. Build what people want and they will buy.
How the hell is a government/military-teat-suckling handout baby going to deliver any of that?
Re: any bets on how long EOP will take to bin the good bits?
Wait, wait wait...Elopologists actually exist in the wild.
Actually, China owns most of the decent prospects for rare earth mines in Canada, especially tantalum.
Indeed. I am absolutely in awe of Jack for this one. In. Awe. Unbelievable work.
Intelligence and morality have nothing to do with one another. Each can exist entirely independently of the other.
Re: cold southern comfort
@Irony Deficient Out treaties basically state that because our justice system is determined to be "equivalent" to the US, deporting people to the US becomes a miserable mess. If we don't want 'em then the US doesn't want 'em either and they would much rather that we pay the bill for banging the bastards up.
As for pursuing extradition, it's pointless. American's give zero fucks whatsoever about Canadian laws. Where we are supposed to to have jurisdiction, they repeatedly don't care. They even put immense political pressure on our politicians resulting in them breaking our own laws and having innocents tortured.
The prevailing view seems to be one of pointlessness. Canada must comply with American legal demands and Americans will only ever comply with Canadian requests if they are politically expedient for America. Sometimes they'll even deny our requests seemingly just to keep us "in our place" (if the comments of their ambassador are anything to go by.)
Even worse, the barbarians still have the death penalty and they murder our citizens, even we offer to repatriate them and keep them locked up for life. (Texas especially seems enamored of this.)
There is no justice in working with Americans. There is no point in asking them for help either. We are not "allies". We are a servitor nation. Allies would not treat each other the way America treats Canada...or individual Canadians. It is really as simple as that.
You don't ask your owner for favours; he'll take said impunity out of your hide.
So yeah, I think my province did right. The bastard is American's problem now. If he ever sets foot on Canadian soil again, we'll arrest him and $deity I hope they'll sent him to a jail cell in fucking Nunavut.
He's not worth the massive amount of political capital it would take to extradite him. Anything Canada "wins" that resembles justice will come out of our hides in the fullness of time. We might win an extradition of this man...but at what cost? American playing stubborn on Softwood lumber rights during the next pissing contest, costing hundreds of thousands of Canadian jobs (again)?
What price, justice? And what is the tax that must be paid on it to America's ego?
Not all of those 9,414 people are criminals. There are, however, more than enough who are bothering the city that I personally live in, thank you very much. If you were really interested you could talk to the police departments from all of our major cities and ask them about Americans and their involvement with organized crime. Long and short of it: they are bringing a great deal of it here, and they are bringing a great deal of expertise in "picking up the pieces" of broken organizations once our cops smash one.
For every crime ring we dissipate it seems two well-trained Americans come up and establish new ones. Apparently crime is so very profitable in the US that they are establishing international franchises. Wonderful.
What's the US got to do with building a nuclear plant in Canada?
Massive US political pressure to wind down our nuclear estate and huge funding of the local NIMBY cliques to shout down the Bruce power proposal.
Tar Sands, not shale. Big difference. Difference being: 99.999% of the issues with the tar sands can be solved by just putting a bloody nuclear reactor up there to supply the energy necessary to support clean extraction and proper post-processing.
Believe it or not, that would be easier under the EU than the US.
And we have a country full of criminals we can't deport. They're called Americans.
I have a plan, let's swap Canada and the UK. The UK can be part of NAFTA and we'll be part of the EU. Seems to be what the UK want, after all. Are the UKIP running that country yet?
Re: Ooops. Can you say "Tipping point"?
The concept of the "Icelandic hotspot" is heavily disputed. I personally don't buy into it as there seems to be no indication of a connection to the mantle. What's more, there's a negligible temperature delta between the so called "hotspot" magma and the rest.
Iceland is more productive largely because there is more tectonic activity and the plates are diverging at a faster rate. That's really it. If there is some element of "hotspot" - which again, the evidence leads me to doubt - then all it is doing is providing additional raw magma. Is is the forces of the divergence boundary that causes the explosive eruptions. A hotspot connection would only mean they have more to work with.
The volcano discussed in this article does not appear to be on a divergence boundary and thus there is no rational region to assume that it would behave any differently to the nearby Mount Eerebus or Mount Terror. (Or, for that matter, Hawaii.)
Re: Ooops. Can you say "Tipping point"?
Iceland isn't a hotspot. Iceland is the result of the plates pulling apart. *big* difference.
Also: even on Iceland, when a volcano goes it rarely takes the whole glacier with it. Even when it does, the glacier starts to reform almost immediately. (A few years).
An isolated volcanic hotspot (which is going to produce *steady* quantities of magma, like Hawaii, or Erebus is not remotely the same as "oh shi-"-style volcanoes like Eyjafjallajökull in Iceland.
If you want to learn more, read up on Monut Erebus, a hotspot volcano that is "so terrifying" they build Mcmurdo station a mere 35km away, near the outflow of several of it's glaciers.
Re: Ooops. Can you say "Tipping point"?
Lots of volcanoes exist under glaciers. Mt Elbrus comes to mind. Or most of Iceland. It doesn't strike me as particularly worrisome as "moving at Xkm /million years" makes it likely to be a hotspot (like Hawaii) thus fairly minor, as these things go. (I would expect that if it were a fault line shied volcano (like Elbrus) there would be a whole mess of 'em roughly in a line.)
Now, if there were a 40-kilometer-wide caldera down there harboring the next Yellowstone itching to let loose, soil your panties and panic. A regular old volcano, however is nothing to worry about, even with all the ice parked on top of it.
Re: (Not lice, not fleas but) Poly Ticks What's the big deal?
What party politics? I'm Canadian. I have no "party" within the US. They're all bloody nuts, but some have recently been demonstrably more nuts than others.
Re: What's the big deal?
As I recall, the alternative was putting Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from personally commanding thousands of nuclear weapons. After that, your alternative was placing one of the most openly bigoted socipaths America has ever produced in the same position. (Pretty boy, not Cheney...though the Dark Lord did just wonders for your economy, didn't he?)
I'm not saying the Obumbler is fantabulous...but the available alternatives weren't merely disastrous, there were cataclysmic. Literally. Planetary cataclysm avoided with Palin and social cataclysm avoided with Ryan.
Re: Et tu, Trevor
If the system worked as designed those in power would never need fear upstarts or shifts in power. The "new rich" have been a problem for ages and power has changed hands frequently enough that those in power are not guaranteed their status for the duration of their own lives, let alone multi-generational aristocracies.
The system doesn't work for anyone. Not those in power and not those being governed.
You're cute when you believe the system works.
Laws are for the little people.
Let me get this straight...
...in the beginning we punished a company for losing money.
...then we punished a company for not making enough money.
...then we punished a company for not growing revenues fast enough.
...then we punished a company simply because it didn't "meet analyst expectations".
...then we punished a company because they couldn't beat analyst expectations.
...now we punish a company because they can't beat analyst expectations by enough.
What the fucking fuck?!?
Deduplication allowed a one-time deferral of new storage kit when it first started showing up in bulk around 2006. Storage volume was the Big Problem of the day and the ability to delay new filer purchases was a Good Thing. Very shortly thereafter all the dedup houses were bought up and integrated into the major filers in order to ensure that they could retain control.
Host-based caching is filling this void today; instead of allowing a deferral of storage volume it is addressing the growing need for high IOPS. In-SAN flash caching and hybrid arrays aren't enough. All-flash is too expensive. data access needs to move closer to the application.
Converged infrastructure and host-based caching are rewriting the IOPS and latency portions of this market just as deduplication rewrote the bulk storage.
Standards are thus critical if you're EMC because you can't just buy up the competition (there are too many this time.) EMC needs standards because standards will enable smart tiering at the hypervisor and eventually the guest/application level. It's the only play they have left. If any of the converged infrastructure or host-based caching companies survive then their offerings will drive down demand for Fat SANs at the center of things and Thin Simply Can Not Be.
If you want the future of storage, look to Nutanix, Simplivity and Maxta on the converged side and Proximal or Flashsoft on the Host-based caching side. These are the folks making storage cheaper for enterprises. They are a direct threat...and the reason standards are now being seriously considered.
Actually, buying nVidia makes a great deal of sense. IBM could buy the company, take the GPGPU piece and spin the rest off to Lenovo. GPGPU fits well with IBM's hardware strategy: get the best of the best of the best and sell it with insane margins.
GPGPU is the new mainframe, and IBM needs to be the only credible player there. Besides, GRID + POWER* = nerdgasm.
*IBM POWER GRID?
I use Huawei and ZTE. Why not? America is no more a friend of Canada than China; I've zero reason to trust either. Given this - and that they both have performance good enough for anything I could ask of them - I might as well buy the cheaper kit.
"Buy American" is bullshit. Both nations seek to be my nation's Master...but we only share a border with one of the bastards. I'll bung my $ at the nation that actually has to work to take us over or cow our politicians into submission.
$671 million makes no dent in the problems of healthcare/food security/housing/etc.
$671 million is a fuck of a lot of food stamps; something I hear you've recently been screwing your citizenry on.
Re: $671 million?
The US doesn't receive hundreds millions of dollars in foreign aid, they choose as a nation to be backwards-ass barbarians without proper healthcare, education, etc. They actively vote for such lunacy.
I'd expect any nation that was at the point of requiring foreign aid simply to meet basic necessities of it's people to be deprioritising militarily spending, government handouts to megacorporations and exploration until they were back on their feet, financially speaking.
If you are just so fucked up that you collectively don't care about your poor - and thus don't seek foreign aid do help remediate the problem - then by all means, carry on. That's a social choice you make together: you build your nation, and you have to live in it.
Go Simplivity! They've got good tech and good people. Glad to see others are recognizing this. One of these days I hope to get both Simplivity and Nutanix into my lab for a nice head-to-head; these folks have sexy gear to show off and it just seems to keep getting better.
It's nice to see Simplivity will have the cash to start hiring additional bodies; Nutanix has been on a hiring spree and they'll need the wetware to keep up! Competition is good, and with both VMware and Maxta on the pure software side (and HP making Lefthand free for ProLiant buyers) the converged infrastructure space certainly has a lot of it.
Let me know how I can help. We don't have a lot of spare money at the moment (bootstrapping our own venture here,) but we do have access to a few internal resources that might be good for overflow. The world needs more quality open source reporting.
From my understanding of the issues discussed in these papers, this is the sort of thing that the folks at Cloudphysics have st out to identify. I wonder if group A has been introduced to group B? Sounds like they are thinking along the same lines...
If that was the case, I'm sure it was an attempt to implement Cisco's version of it. Everyone else has a business case to make SDN that actually works.
The outrage is because of scale. If one business selling tat to people has the POS system go down they inconvenience a few dozen folks that day, maybe cause a knock-on b2b issue to a couple of other businesses.
If VISA goes down, the world stops. Now the same is true of salesforce, Amazon and increasingly Microsoft. That's hundreds of millions of consumers inconvenienced and millions of B2B issues created.
How many single points of failure does your economy need?
Re: Nobel Peace Prize for .... Twitter?
Twitter is just as likely to cause such incidents when a postal worker/writer/politician/policeman/what-have-you is forced to deal with the braying masses.
The internet is full of piranhas, most of them utterly irrational and without any semblance of clue.
...and she's not even named Enterprise!
Re: Still won't help at night of course.
...no it wouldn't. At 800KM it would spend a significant portion of it's time in Earth's shadow, and the rest of the time frying hapless people and animals as it whips across the Earth faster than it could possibly track any ground stations.
Perhaps you're thinking of geosynchronous orbit, which is 42,000 km (give or take), which would allow a satellite to park itself above the ground station and only microwave every satellite, station, ship, plane or bird that happened to cross it's beam. Even then, as any geosync orbit that isn't wildly elliptical (thus fluctuating in distance from the surface (and thus beam intensity) quite wildly) has to be at the equator, that satellite will certainly pass within Earth's shadow.
You can see this phenomenon every month. There is a rather large example in the form of a large chunk of rock approximately 384,400km out. As I recall, our ancestors even created the concept of a "month" based on the tendency of that particular rock to "go dark" as it passed through Earth's shadow.
The only way you're getting a satellite to experience 100% sunlight is a circumpolar orbit (which would fry a lovely ring around the terminator) or a geosynchronous polar orbit; from what I understand the vagaries of the magnetic fields and the Van Allen belts make that latter one a right bitch.
Nutanix have been hiring a lot of top talent. I would not bet against these fellows; they know their shit and they have a fantastic offering.
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