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Back up all you like - but can you resuscitate your data after a flood?

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Re: You're not using MySQL's built-in replication???

@Ammaross Danan: you seem to believe that everyone will listen to their sysadmins and/or be swayed by logic. Even if you pull out bullshit ideas like "it is the network admin's job to teach that" you are still simply wrong. Computers are easy, politics are hard...and you cannot simply reprogram people until they obey you.

Armchair quarterbacking on the internet is so much easier when you can simply demand that other people change the rules around them though, isn't it? Makes me ask all sorts of questions about how well you manage to interact with human beings in the real world. Or if you do much of that at all. Compromises suck, but they are the way of the world.

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Re: Tiger Team

Agree entirely. And it's a fantastic argument for external audits, too. :)

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Re: DR plans

You are absolutely correct. In fact, I think I've written the exact same thing in about a dozen different ways on this very site. Unfortunately, nerds don't control the business.

Or fortunately? It depends on your outlook. Nerds would spend a virtually unlimited amount of money on things, restrict changes to rigid procedures that had long time horizons and generally play things incredibly paranoid and "safe." This would result in an unbeatable network, but a massive money sink and virtually zero agility. At large enough scale you could provide agility - sort of - but certainly not in the SME space. So the owners of the business make choices and they take risks. "Continue operating today" versus "prevent a risk that may not happen." There isn't always money for both.

What really gets me is the armchair quarterbacks that seem to think that any systems administrator or contractor on the planet has the ability to force their clients/employers/etc to spend money and make the choices that the armchair quaterback would make.

Of course, when the Anonymous Coward knows only 10% of the story, that isn't a problem, because it's obvious that everyone should do everything according to the most paranoid possible design costing the maximum amount of money using the best possible equipment and all of the relevant whitepapers. The part where doing that would bankrupt most SMEs is irrelevant. Nerds believe in IT over all things.

Forget the people, forget cashflow; the money is always (magically) there, it is just that business owners are withholding it to fund their massage chair. Salaries of staff don't need to be paid; you need to hire more IT guys. The ability of sales, marketing etc to generate revenue is irrelevant, all that matters is that they cannot possibly affect the system stability and that the data (generated by what? Why?) is secure.

So yeah; shit happens, and in a perfect world you'd get an up front investment from them to prevent issues and solve potential issues. In the real world, however, things get messy. Oftentimes they simply don't have the money, can't obtain it and/or aren't willing to do things like mortgage their own house to cover a remote possibility event.

Other times, they are unwilling to make the investment and there's nothing you can do. It's your job as a sysadmin to do the best you can with what you have. You make your recommendations, you accept the choices the client makes and you help them as best you can.

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Re: So, you didn't test your DR plan...

You're funny. That would only occur in a world where the people in question have the kind of money to throw away whole servers because they act up. Try fighting like a caged rat for two years to get a storage replacement for 6 year old drives and then having to spend the better part of two months grinding every vendor on earth against eachother to slide in at budget.

Different worlds.

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Re: Relying on capped data links

If wishes were horses we'd all ride.

What I would like from an ISP arrangement, or amounts of available bandwidth, or budget, time, storage, development cycles, applications, operating systems, coffee vendors, dispensaries of bagels and whatever else it is that runs my life has very little to do with what I get. You get what's available. Your job is to make things work as well as possible within those boundaries.

As it is, the cost of bandwidth is mind-numbingly prohibitive. Canada: lots of cheap, shitty quality downstream bandwidth, but you'll have to toss virgins into a very rare Ebrus-class stratovolcano to get upstream that isn't utter pants.

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Re: You're not using MySQL's built-in replication???

That's where the political issues come in. If a "live synced" copy existed then the powers that be would take a matter of days before they demanded that production workloads started operating off of it.

TPTB would also demand that switchover be automated. That would mean that any minor outage in the primary site (say because the ISP is having problems with the fibre card in their routers again) immediately trigger a switch to the copy stored on the DR site. They would not be capable of viewing the synched copy as "for emergency, disaster-only use".

This would result in either things going horribly wrong as databases diverged or massive amounts of resources needing to be invested in retooling the application in question (and a large chunk of the rest of the infrastructure) to go from "DR" to "multi-site HA."

Solutions that are "technically possible, if you can control for various factors" don't work when politics do not let you control the requisite factors.

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Re: So, you didn't test your DR plan...

The bitch of it is the corrupt VM ended up being caused by a flaky RAID SAS cable combined with some flaky disks on the backup server. Not outright dead, but dead *enough* that things acted wonky. It has since been replaced.

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DR plans

Seriously, it isn't just testing the DR plans...it's testing them with some regularity. One bloke up thataway made mention that even a minor change can invalidate a DR plan.

Like "yum update", perhaps?

Security says update every month, at a minimum. Do you have time/money/etc to test your DR plans for every single change every month? If so...I want to work where you work.

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Re: DR

A local backup regime? Sure. To deal with equipment failure. A disaster recovery scheme? Rarely, if ever. The cost of bandwidth is prohibitive and there isn't always access to offsite vaulting companies willing to work for the prices you can afford.

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Re: You're not using MySQL's built-in replication???

I'm sorry, David Harper 1, it looks like you're either a troll or you don't actually read other people's comments, interjecting instead your personal experiences as though they were valid for all circumstances. I could cheerfully write an application such that it would work just fine with MySQL replication. I could also write one such that it didn't.

MySQL Master-Master replication would work for the application at hand, but it would also be a monumental bitch to set up and maintain. Master-Slave doesn't work and causes muchos big time problems in failover.

I can believe that your personal coding practices - and those of developers you work with - are subconsciously such that they "just work" with master-slave replication. Bully for you. That said, your experiences, tics, mannerisms, and stylistic choices are not present in all members of our species. Different people do different things. This results in configurations that even you, with your vast and phallus-enhancing experience haven't worked with. The job of the sysadmin is to beat the infrastructure into shapes that cope with such things. We don't always get to have things recoded to meet our desires.

Applications need to be aware of replication insomuch as the developers of those applications need avoid doing things that break replication. (Which I call a replication-aware application. It is designed with the idea that you need to do things "properly" from the beginning.)

One scenario in which things go sideways is when your production facing servers can't see the "master" DB at all. They can only see their local copy. (The DBs can talk to one another.) In the failover scenario where the DR site is now the "active" one then the DR site's system will start writing to the slave. Bringing up the primary site won't cause the slave to replicate back it's new data, but the automatics would switch the front-facing servers back. (Politics dictate that if real-time replication were occurring then automated failover and re-transfer would be gun-to-the-head forced.)

The application simply blows up if it cannot write to the DB (every single script writes something, even if it's only tracking data) and thus can't work with a read-only database copy. Worse, if I had a fully active setup on the DR site linked to a slave system I could measure the time before a pointy-haired-boss demanded that we switch our setup to pulling reports off the DR site's copy in minutes. As I said, every page performs writes and your databases suddenly start diverging.

For added fun and games, the web servers running the PHP on the DR site will never be allowed to "see" the master DB. (Routing rules.) The database servers could be set up to tunnel to one another for replication, but items in one site's DMZ would not be allowed to talk to backend systems in another site's DMZ.

These are scenarios that break replication. They are dealing with "real world stuff" that includes politics, bad design choices by developers and more. MySQL master-slave replication does not solve all ills.

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Re: DR - never important until you need it

We worked from the bandwidth on up. We have a fixed amount of bandwidth every night that we can use for backups. X number of bits can be transferred every night. Backups is all about fitting everything inside that window.

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Re: You're not using MySQL's built-in replication???

If you're running apps that either aren't master-slave aware and require write capability to do even basic things then you usually end up in a multi-master scenario. MySQL built-in replication just doesn't work unless you have a properly designed application. By "properly designed" I mean something that's aware of DB replication scenarios and which uses the database architecture for relational key tracking.

As soon as any part of your app is manually creating or updating indexes, or is storing data in a table somewhere along with an index reference but isn't using that index reference in a relational manner (common when the application is designed by a developer and not a DBA) then you're deep into a world where replication cause all sorts of horrible, horrible things.

How many times in our industry has some horrible kludge designed to solve a temporary problem been pressed into mainline production, build upon dozens of times over the years and ended up as some patchwork bandaid application that is layers of plaster over the same kludgy, unscalable core? How many applications both in house and off the shelf suffer this? Too many, in my experience.

MySQL replication assumes a spherical cow. That's great if you're designing from scratch, but not so helpful if your cow is in fact a 12th dimensional meatcube extruded through a hole in space-time.

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Re: DR

It isn't the "right operating system version." It's about the config file version. The version of the OS on the production system is up to date (binary-wise,) however, the originally installed version was older than than the newest installed version. This means that a brand new install to the same version as is currently running in production will install different default config files.

The real lesson here is "add the php config files to the nightly backup set." It obviously isn't enough to rely on operating system version to keep those straight.

I would have thought that for someone who read the article that lesson was a no brainer.

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Re: Not too shabby

It isn't enough to just test the DR plans; frequency of tests is an issue. A copy of the VM existed on the target site...but that copy was corrupted. Couldn't get it to boot. (Most likely an incomplete backup run at some point.)

So the DR plans were good, they were tested to inject new information and files into a known-good VM...but the known good VM turned out to be not so good. At that point, down the rabbit whole you go...

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Re: Out-of-date OS?

The live version is fully up-to-date (at least as far as Yum is concerned, and both the 5 and 6 series are under active support) but the original image was an older version. That means that the php config file was from the past - and allowed the short tags - but the binaries got updated over time.

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Re: Ouch...

The theory behind the stuff that isn't replicated off-site is that it is relevant only to that site. That means that if it all goes splork and we can't recover it something horrible has happened to that site and we're in to "contacting the insurance company to replace a site" anyways. By the time the site is back online the data in question will no longer be relevant.

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Re: DR - never important until you need it

We had tested the DR plan by restoring to a copy of the VM. We thought we had a copy of the VM when we didn't. (The copy on the backup server was corrupt.) Our records indicated the VMs in use were the latest version - and they are - but they had gotten there by upgrading from previous versions; meaning the php configuration file was from an older version despite the binaries being up-to-date.

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Re: You're not using MySQL's built-in replication???

Certainly does if you are doing multi-point writes! Your app needs to not blow up horribly on read-only DB instances and/or be somewhat aware of the underlying architecture to ensure write coherence. The built in replication doesn't work for all situations, sadly...

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Rejoice! Sysadmin day is... TODAY. Now get in here and win free stuff

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Re: Carefull though..

From the first article about the webinar:

"None of the personal details used during registration will be retained after we've managed to get the swag out to the winners. I won't be providing the list of information to the vendors in the panel nor will I spam with you annoying marketing spam."

Rules are here.

Marketing? Not part of the plan. Not by half. This is about getting vendors to give you things, not about giving your info to vendors.

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Re: Cookies!

That's fantastic! Happy sysadmin day to you and to all sysadmins everywhere. Even Australia. /cc Adam Fowler && Aaron Milne.

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Sysadmins: Keep YOUR data away from NSA spooks

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Re: Before PRISM

Amazon operating a cloud in DC does not solve the problem. An Australian's data in a Sydney datacenter is still going to be open to inspection by American authorities because Amazon is an American company. They can be - and have been - compelled to transfer copies of private data belonging to foreign nationals back to America to be inspected by American officials.

To be perfectly clear: Australian data entrusted to an Australian company running on servers in Australia would be vulnerable to intercept by the American government because Amazon is American.

To be 100% crystal clear and sure that even a damage control expert such as yourself can be made to understand: American cloud providers cannot be trusted with your data full stop. Anyone who uses an American cloud provider and isn't an American company with a 100% American client base is a complete fucking idiot.

In civilized countries privacy is recognized as a human right. Which means that the fact that some yanks have an economic interest in standing up public clouds does not remove your legal responsibility as a "data controller" to prevent private data - anything personally identifiable, corporately sensitive and so forth - from falling into the hands of anyone other than yourself (as the data controller), the individual (to whom the data belongs) and if absolutely nessecary the lawful intercept of a nation whose privacy laws meet or exceed those of both your self (as a data controller) and that of the data owner.

It has been established in a court of law in Canada, the EU and Switzerland that the United States' privacy laws are inadequate by the standards of these countries and it is not to be considered a country where the storage of personally identifiable information is to be allowed.

The hurdles to cloud adoption are emphatically not technical. They are legal and an American provider cannot be made to be trustworthy through any application of technology. No matter how many times you use the word "encryption" this does not guarantee that the American government is unable to intercept foreign data under the care of a foreign controller. Because this can not be guaranteed, they should never be used.

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Re: Don't forget your data centers

Your cavalier attitude only works if you are a company that can survive a privacy lawsuit or six. If you're an SME then one lawsuit can screw you. Indeed; in many nations that lawsuit can pierce the corporate veil and go after the major shareholders as well. A little bit of paperwork just won't cut it when it is your personal ass on the line.

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Cloud backups: Where's my get out of jail card?

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Re: We're currently rolling out a new DR / Backup system

Unitrends is good. You just either need to use their sync-to-cloud for offsite storage or you need to own two units. (One onsite one off.)

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Microsoft's earnings down on slow Windows sales, Surface RT bust

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"Has redmond lost touch wIth consumers?"

I had a momentary urge to type out the full solution set to the issues at hand but thankfully, I overcame it. I charge for that now; a reasonable amount, in fact. That, and Microsoft isn't going to read the comments to anything on El Reg so why bother wasting the time? Instead, I believe a song is far more appropriate:

The roof the roof the roof is on fire/The roof the roof the roof is on fire/We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn/ Burn motherfucker burn.

If Microsoft's relevance within my sphere of practice is going to come to a miserable grinding end that seems likely to do a fair amount of economic harm to me and mine...then I might as well take whatever minor, petty pleasures I can from watching it all go down. After all, I'll see no tangible benefits except the pleasure I get from roasting marshmallows on their mouldering corpse.

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US propels global technology market to $2 TREEELION in 2013

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"We and other economists had expected that China’s new political leadership would take decisive steps to re-ignite growth after its sub-par growth of 7.8 per cent in 2012."

The US, EU et al economies grew by how much during 2012?

"Let's devalue this stock/entire nation because it didn't grow fast enough according to our completely arbitrary bullshit that we crapped out in the hopes of convincing others to give us all their money." What an easy job: pull some number out of the air and demand a company/nation/etc grow revenues/gdp/spending/what-have-you to meet it. If they don't meet your wild bullshit, throw an international hissy fit and see if you can get others to join in on your tantrum and punish the malefactor with the bad growth by reducing investment.

Guys, I'm really pissed at Western Digital and Seagate because drive prices didn't come down fast enough after the Taiwan floods. I also am upset that areal density hasn't increased fast enough. Let's all invest our money in beef futures instead of buying hard drives for our data centers so that they know they have to meet our demands or experience doom.

:flailing:

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Paypal makes man 1000x as rich as the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE

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Trap

This is one of them.

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Admen's suggested tweaks to Do Not Track filed straight into the bin

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the Reg aren't completely evil

Some of us are. >_>

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Microsoft DENIES it gives backdoor access to Outlook encryption

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Re: Ahem.

I am replying to Microsoft.

Generally when you start a new post (instead of replying to a specific one) then you are replying to the article proper. Thus:

To: Microsoft

Re: Everything you just said, and pretty much everything you will say, ever, regarding trustworthiness

Body: Bullshit.

Clearer?

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Ahem.

Bullshit.

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Dear Linus, STOP SHOUTING and play nice - says Linux kernel dev

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You all fucking suck, but have a goddamned beer anyways, you fuckers.

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Elon Musk to release open source Hyperloop plans in August

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"Rail gun"

Um...guys..."0 to 1000mph" is enough to turn squishy meat bags into goo unless your rail gun is really, really long. At which point it isn't really a rail gun anymore, it's a mass driver and it's long like longcat.

And longcat is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

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Planet-busting British space bullet ready to bomb ice moon Europa

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Re: So ...

The point of the MOP is not to destroy the bunker. It is to get inside the bunker then turn the breathable atmosphere into face-melting plasma.

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We'll stop Johnny Foreigner gobbling our biznovation - UK gov

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Re: Ah, so they finally noticed...@Trevor Pott

Where did I say that UK.gov should not streamline taxes or bureaucracy? I believe 100% that this is the quickest route to driving business innovation and the growth of small business. I said two things:

1) Businesses should not be allowed to dump their externalities on society. So while I believe in streamlining regulation as a general rule, I don't believe in wholesale elimination of anything and everything that businesses find "inconvenient" or "an expense." Businesses have responsibilities as well as "rights." Balance must exist; even if I believe the current balance is out of whack.

2) The UK.gov should make resources (such as capital, manufacturing capability, maybe even startup incubators or dataparks) available to small businesses to help them grow into medium enterprises. The goal being to create a healthy and diverse UK economy that exists to do something other than "risky finance" and "shovel startups at the US."

I also talked about diversity of businesses. Nowhere did I champion regulation complexity or tax code obscurity, nor did I champion BAE or driving out/allowing the merging of all the big businesses. My approach and views are complex and require handling different segments of the market differently as different challenges and opportunities exist at all levels.

I do not, however, believe for a split second that "the market" will solve everything. "The market" will grind down everyone and everything but the most charismatic and powerful few virtually overnight if left completely alone. Businesses would dump every kind of externality onto society and you'd end up with an environment so horrible that the human lifespan would be 40 years in short order.

Maybe you don't care about that; maybe you think that you'll be on top so it's okay to flush away the rest of the human race. I don't. I think there needs be things like minimum wage, social safety nets, environmental regulations and checks and balances to prevent monopolistic exploitation and corruption.

By the same token, the bullshit you have to go through to do basic taxes is absurd. The regulations surrounding meeting the obligations of your social safety net are insane and byzantine.

UK.gov has a lot of cleaning up to do to make the business environment in the UK more conducive to actually doing business. No question. But a free-for-all isn't the answer. Nor is charging along without acknowledging that to compete with the other nations of the world who have economies better geared to sustain medium and large enterprises the UK is going to need to step in and give it's own companies a leg up.

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Re: How does this work?

They're only going to pay you $100M for your startup if they feel they can make quite a bit more off of it than they pay for it. Were that company developed in the UK the "quite a bit more" would be staying there, instead of heading to the US. So the buy out of your company puts a smallish amount in to the UK economy while the economy ultimately loses out on far greater amounts.

Sure, it's hella nice for the guy who manages to sell his company. Hurrah and cheering; that dude's now set for life! What's better for the UK as a whole, however, is if that company were developed locally and the monies that would have entered the US economy via purchasing that game/software/newfangled microwave/whatever entered the UK economy instead.

What's good for one person (the guy who sells off his company) isn't necessarily good for the nation as a whole.

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Re: Ah, so they finally noticed...

I don't deny for a second that there is a lot of getting out of the way that UK.gov needs to do to make small business better in the UK. I do not for a second, however, buy that removing liability or social responsibility from the owners of a business is ever a good idea. Incorporation as a legal shield is important, but corporations cannot be immune to the consequences of their actions nor be allowed to offload externalities onto society at large.

The fact that some change is needed is simply not justification for extremist reforms. Nor is it justification for changes that will hasten the "brain drain" of the UK.

Or is it simply that you have no greater aspiration for your nation than to be a poor "bedroom community" to the USA: feeding it all your best and brightest whilst hoping that they'll give you a discount on sewage treatment and mostly make sure your freshwater is fresh? How far your nation has fallen. Sad, really.

Do not take my comments for a belief that change and removal of red tap is not required in the UK. The UK is one of the most heavily bureaucratized nations int he world to start an SME in. That said, however, you will never convince me that any business - regardless of size - has an innate "right" to see externalities of their operations born by society. Balance in all things.

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Re: Ah, so they finally noticed...

Oh course, naturally the solution to all ills is to remove from businesses any semblance of oversight, social responsibility or liability for their actions. This will naturally benefit the small, struggling businesses and in no way be twisted into a hammer by large enterprises and used to beat everyone else down.

You sir, are naive.

The best thing the UK could do to encourage small businesses would be to provide access to the resources necessary to start producing one's own widget. The costs are extravagant, but there is absolutely no reason that $small_business cannot evolve into $chaebol.

"Hands off" by the government will do nothing but siphon cash out of the UK to established interests which are largely American at this point. Indeed, UK_Display_Tech_Ltd wont' even fetch the same price as Silicon_Valley_Display_tech_Ltd because American businessmen place a high value on having their workers within bullwhip distance. Anything not within a couple of hours driving distance of headquarters will see a penalty on the amount offered for buyout; anything across the pond will see a pretty steep penalty.

What's more, because there aren't any alternatives - going from small to medium in the UK is nearly impossible because of lack of funds, infrastructure, support, etc - UK firms will gladly lap up the table leavings offered them. Holding out will net them nothing and will in all likelihood drive the offer away.

Crapping capitalism for breakfast and burning hippies isn't going to save your pathetic little island and it's byzantine house-of-cards finances-based economy. What will is carefully supporting local businesses interests to develop a stable collection of diverse "big businesses". The UK needs a few 800lb gorillas of its very own spread across enough sectors to be able to deal with downturns in any given handful of sectors.

That takes planning and care, especially in a global economy. The economy of a town favours only a handful of people in a town. The economy of a nation favours roughly the same %. The unified economy of an entire planet doesn't fundamentally alter the maths and the very few, chosen % of people that the global economy favours?

...is isn't you, or your little island, my limey friend. No matter how inflated the British sense of importance is; the UK just doesn't matter enough for market forced to save it.

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Why I'm sick of the new 'digital divide' between SMEs and the big boys

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Re: Chefs vs. Cooks

The solution is that you bring in a chef to design the infrastructure - usually called a "datacenter architect" or something similar - and use cooks to keep it running. VARs and MSPs do this quite well in the SMB space.

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Re: agreed. what about disaster recovery on a budget?

Follow me on Twitter? Cakeis_not_alie. I am sure I'll mention it there. It will also be talked about on The Register and WeBreakTech as well as Trevorpott.com. I'm sure when I have finally finished it that you will hear the gnashing of teeth from the whitepaper brigade so loudly that it will haunt your dreams and prevent sleep.

Then you will know it has been released.

(Actually, If I publish an eBook on how to do the MacGyver-like paranoid systems design that I do, does it suddenly become a "whitepapered approach?" Will CCNA's heads actually explode? Things to find out!)

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Re: FWIW, Trevor...

:) I think you'll notice a distinct lack of HP in my lab too.

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I have had 10 ASUS P5E-VM-DO motherboards in service as file servers /with 8GB of RAM and Adaptec 3805 RAID quite literally since the veryfirst of these boards hit the distribution channel in Canada. That's what, 5 years now? 6? My home lab is largely composed of vPro ASUS motherboards and a significant chunk of my primary lab as well. (See here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/31/building_it_test_lab/).

In my experience higher end (read vPro or equivalent) profession/workstation-class desktop motherboards fail less than server boards. This is because they are significantly less complex than server boards but manufactured with the same high-quality components.

Lower quality motherboards (Asrock, ECS, bottom-dollar ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI boards) are the worst of the lot. They are still made with liquid caps, have dirty volt regs and the traces are made out of what seems to be easily evaporated pot metal.

I trust a quality manufactured Micro-ITX motherboard designed for a home NAS far more than I do an EATX monstrosity powering a 4U HP superserver. The Micro-ITX is probably made from the same top-bin parts, but is so much less complex that the failure rates are way, way lower. Give me 2x quality desktop boards in the same chassis with literally every conceivable component duplicated, wrapped into a cluster. I will take that before your "statistically unlikely to die, 4 hour service life" enterprise-class server.

My design costs the same (or less) but offers complete redundancy and is statistically less likely to have even one of it's nodes die than the Enterprise version. If I can't shoot one of the nodes and have the overall system still working, then it just isn't good enough.

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MS Office on iOS is OFF the menu, says Fujitsu as it nixes Personal Cloud

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Re: Dodging Exchange

For that price the software better have been etched onto platters using an STM by carefully trained temple virgins who were then tossed into volcanoes at the end of the application creation in order to prevent outsiders from gaining knowledge of "the bits."

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Re: Dodging Exchange

Twelve thousand pounds for a physical server? Dafuq?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/22/building_it_test_lab_2/ <--reading required.

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I've been on about MS licensing trauma since VMware became a thing and saw the writing on the wall. Oh, but I'm a daft lad spinning madness from the sweet silk of Microsoft's loving EULAs. Or so I've been told.

Seems to me that there is a rash of people telling MS's licensing department to "shove it" right now. Please excuse me while I cackle with glee.

If Microsoft want to have a snowball's chance in a neutron star of surviving the next 15 years as anything other than another has-been niche player they are going to need to stop hiring butt-snorkling yes-men to design their strategy and start hiring their harshest critics. They have lost touch with SMEs, enthusiasts, power users, regular users, desktop users, touch users, partners, developers, systems administrators and are now losing touch with the CIOs of enterprises as well.

I'll not hold my breath; the egos in Redmond are such that they would rather death before admission of fallibility, but I can hope beyond hope that this company my career has been built on will turn itself around. Fleeting and unfulfilled as that dream will ultimately prove to be...

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Sysadmin Day free give away

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Re: I didn't think anyone would want them.

Well, there are 3 swag bags on the list. That said, I totally wouldn't have though kitsch was what people would be after. Tried to get the sweet stuff. Conference passes, Trainsignal training, licences...maybe I should have hunted the wild coffee mug with more fervour. Ah well, live and learn, eh?

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I do. I didn't think anyone would want them.

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Re: @Trevor_Pott - @billse10 and @Steve FOster

I spent rather a lot of time combing through lawyers only to discover that each jurisdiction wanted somewhere around $2000 to provide a set of T&Cs that I would then have to modify to my requirements. None of that lawyers I spoke to - literally none of them - were willing to work out a harmonized single set of Ts&Cs covering even the US and Canada, let alone multiple countries.

Even if I had $2000/jurisdiction (I don't) that whole effort would be invalidated by rules in various jurisdictions that require you to have harmonised Ts&Cs for the entire event! This is one case where the "experts" aren't able or willing to provide "sound advice" at all.

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Sadly sir, I have no moons to give. Otherwise, I'd probably try. :)

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The IT crowd: Fiercely loyal geeks or 'inflexible, budget-padding' creeps?

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Re: Nail, head.

Amen, brother. Preach it!

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Confidential Microsoft brief: 'We're TOAST if we fight Google on price'

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Re: First and foremost, it's the price that matters

You compete with free by offering something that "free" rarely does.

Convenience, ease-of-use, feature richness, compatibility, speed, heterogeneity (cross-platform support, format support, etc), deep integration with other products, security, a strong/supportive/well resourced community...there are plenty of ways to compete with "free."

Unfortunately, Microsoft seem to have no interest in anything except "feature richness" and "deep integration with other products."

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One out of Microsoft's clutches you're unlikely to go back...and it's the licensing that's the bitter pill driving people away. Oh...and Price Matters.

It is of interest to me how when I have been saying the same damned thing for years I'm the crazy whackjob. Now, suddenly, the light goes off and it's time to cope with the things I've been bellyaching about from the start.

Beer, because it's nice to see someone has finally obtained clue at MS. Even if it is only one clue amongst many required.

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