* Posts by Trevor_Pott

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Fujitsu CTO: Analysts might think we're 'crazy', but OpenStack here we come

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Helion Public cloud is closing. Helion private cloud is in fact doign quite well and finding more and more customers each quarter.

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And the reasons for buying new IT gear are as follows ...

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Hah!

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Re: if you want to see long life equipment...

HP Laserjet II and LaserJet III+ models were the absolute pinnacle of printer design. Best damned printers mankind ever produced. Shame about everything since.

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Target settles with banks for $40m after data breach

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No, that is not the question.

The question is: did the individuals running the company make more money (in bonuses, etc) by doing IT wrong than they would have by doing IT right?

What is good for the company or its customers is not actually relevant in the company is run.

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Per-core licences coming to Windows Server and System Center 2016

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RedHat is not Linux

No, it's systemd.

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Google cloud outage caused by failure that saw admins run it manually ... and fail

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Re: Oops!

Well, for one, you check to see if Charlie is advertising a route back to Bob. If both networks are willing to register connectivity to one another and have high reputation, you trust them. If, however, you have a record of someone else owning Charlie's block who not only does advertise their connectivity but participates in the reputation system and then Bob starts advertising about connectivity to Charlie that Charlie is in turn not also advertising about, you either fail to accept the route or you squash it all the way down the reputation system so that the slightest glitch means they get dropped.

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Re: Oops!

And they used to say "the internet routes round damage".

It has. Unfortunately the world's governments have been working hard to ensure that any overlay networks that ensure privacy and security not only are eventually compromised, but are illegal or outright blocked.

Trust is fundamental to the current internet. Unfortunately, trust is damage. Thus the fundamentals of the internet must be replaced or overlaid upon with network and protocol designs that don't require trust. The result, however, won't be anything like the internet of yore. The internet can't route around itself without becoming something altogether different.

And, quite frankly, that's a good thing. The internet should be a bastion of free speech and anonymity. A place where people can communicate without fear of surveillance. Only then can new ideas truly be explored and - ultimately - flourish.

Until then, the Internet is merely a means to give everything you are and have over to those who have proven repeatedly they will use all of it against you.

We really need an "International Industrial Espionage Day" where we educate people about how the internet is where governments laugh and play and surveil the innocent. Usually for economic benefit.

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Re: Oops!

I understand my history just fine, thanks. I even understand the issues in transitioning from the old to the new.

Problem is, even new protocols being developed today rely on trust. The internet still relies utterly on people to behave with honour. People don't. Governments especially don't.

It is a pain to transition to a new architecture. It will take decades and billions of dollars. Tough. It needs done. Best to start down the path and get it over with.

Unfortunately, we're in the process instead of having the technocrats try to transition us to shit like IPv6. This doesn't benefit the individual in any way, but instead makes them even more vulnerable, traceable and exposed. Yes, I understand IPv6 is from the beforetime when chowderheads still believed in trust. But any attempts to actual solve the problems in IPv6 such that individual privacy is made paramount (or start a post-IPv6 transition that will move us to such a protocol) are simply shouted down.

The technocrats are obsessed with making life easy for developers. (See: end-to-end model obsession, amongst many other things.) Anything that requires a poor developer to load a few extra libraries and understand a little bit about network when designing an application is apparently such a cosmic problem that everyone else should be rendered tracable all the time.

And IPv6 is just one example.

The BGP issue can be solved by making two routing tables on the net. One secure and one insecure. BGP, of course, being insecure. Systems advertising along secure channels would have a multi-point reputation system. Some central registrar (preferably multiple, in different jurisdictions) would ensure that A) yes, the organization in question has the right to post routes and has agreed to play nice and B) owns X routes, and can advertise them as they wish.

If an organization tries to advertise routes on the secure channel that belong to someone else (which should be fairly easily traceable with the reputation system above) then those routes aren't accepted, and the reputation of the sender is demoted.

If there ever appear to be two "legitimate" owners of a route - which shouldn't happen, but does from time to time due to administrative screw-ups - then the providers with the highest reputation wins, until the issue is resolved.

BGP routes would then be considered as the lowest reputation routes. They will be accepted, but only if they are not overridden by a more reputable and verified source using the secure channel.

Oh look, we now have a transition mechanism. That was hard.

Yes, the reputation managers in this system would have many of the same flaws as certification authorities. This can be partially mitigated by having multiple reputation managers in multiple jurisdictions, making it hard (though admittedly not impossible) to compromise all of them.

We could also look at some sort of distributed reputation system (blockchain-based? It's all the rage!) that supplements the "canonical" reputation systems, but is based more on "number of times an advertiser has caused route problems".

Essentially the transition mechanism could be handled as something along the lines of a more advanced SPAM blacklist/greylist system, incorporating lessons learned from those attempts and giving ultimate priority to those advertisers who have done the leg work to get properly verified and whose ownership of a route can be confirmed through multiple sources.

Clearly, however, this is completely unworkable and impossible. Because reasons.

Trust is anathema to privacy and to security. Relying on it for anything is ridiculous.

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Re: Oops!

To err is human. To really cock up requires a committee.

See: the design of pretty much every internet protocol since the beforetime. Anything that relies on trust is automatically a failure. Too bad techocrats never seem to understand that.

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Wikimedia tries AI to catch bad edits

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Re: Filter feeder

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Euphemism#Euphemism_treadmill

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London councils splurge wildly differing amounts on Oracle software

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Re: User count

I agree. Anyone paying Oracle or Microsoft to rob them is nonsense.

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Safe Harbor solution not coming any time soon, says Dutch minister

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Re: No

@Moiety

If my name was Donald I would have it changed. The Donald has ruined it for everyone. Just like people with the last name Hitler changed their name, I would really think about not in any way ever being associated with "Donald" or "Trump" for several generations, at least.

At least Hitler didn't ruin "Adolf" as thoroughly as Trump has ruined "Donald".

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Re: No

So, EU. How do we get to a realistic set of guidelines that all the intelligence services might adhere to?

I hope not!

When spies in the EU break the law they can be held to account through the courts. When foreign spies break the law in the EU they cannot. That's the simple truth.

Is GHCQ violating EU human rights laws? Yes. Are they in court for it? Yes!

It might take decades, but the wheels of justice do and will turn. GHCQ, BND and all the others will be brought to heel. Probably just by the end of our lifetimes, but it will happen.

The US spies will never be brought to heel. Not by and for the benefit of their own people, but certainly not such that they grant the same legal rights to Europeans as Americans have...and give both parties the right to challenge the spying in a court of law.

That's the difference. It isn't about what can be made to happen today or tomorrow. The arguments of "well EU countries are doing the same thing" is aught but silly buggers and not only irrelevant to the discussion but missing the point of the exercise entirely.

This is about legal accountability. In the EU governments are legally obligated to be the servants of their people. People are not servants of their governments. Change takes time, and millions will be violated while that change unfolds...but it does fucking occur.

The US government is not accountable to the citizens of the EU. It is thus perfectly rational to deny them the ability (insomuch as it is possible) to violate the rights of EU citizens.

EU governments have the right to have the ability to violate the rights of EU citizens because if they do they can be held to account. It is an honour system that is flawed, but it is better than the complete fuck all that EU citizens have in the face of the Americans.

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Re: No

Does anybody really believe that Republicans like Donald and (insert any name...) actually represent the American people

I honestly and ardently believe that The Donald's batshit bannanas bigoted bullshit represents between 15% and 30% of the American people, depending on how you want to crunch the numbers (and a lot of smart people are doing just that, so the error bars will shrink with time.)

Unfortunately, these are passionate individuals who can and will vote. They are a power bloc that cannot and shout not be ignored. 50% - 60% of Americans are so apathetic they don't seem to care strongly about anything. They don't and won't vote and they spend more time mocking anyone who stands up for a firmly held belief than standing up for any belief of their own.

That leaves (depending on how you crunch the numbers) between 10% and 35% of Americans who care strongly about something other than The Donald's bigotry enough to combat him.

10% - 35% versus 15% - 30%. I really - really - don't like those odds, especially when amongst that 10%- 35% of people opposed to The Donald there are a largish number of establishment republicans.

So you know what? Yeah. The Donald and his gang of sociopathic nutjobs very well might represent America. Or, more accurately, they quite possibly represent the largest block of people who are not just completely apathetic.

America is best represented by a grime-stained t-shirt that says "meh, fuck it". Unfortunately for the rest of the world, you won't be giving a t-shirt personal command over nuclear fucking weapons. You'll be most likely handing that power over to someone who is horrible, horrifying and megalomaniacal. No matter which party happens to win.

Seriously, if you guys don't elect Bernie Sanders we're all pretty much fucked. Please don't screw us, America. Please.

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IETF's older white men urged to tone it down

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"I take away from this the message that the proponents of this RFC value Identity politics and feelings over producing something that works."

How is that any worse than the current territorialism, penis measuring and blatant corporate self interest?

Either way, "producing something that works" is not the focus, and the majority of people are left out in the cold, their needs unmet.

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Re: Who is John Galt?

Ayn Rand...gives many people the same bad aftertaste as the Idiocracy movie, but she wasn't wrong.

Fuck yes she was. In just about every way. Some people are very much like those she describes. Most aren't. Unfortunately, the people who follow her philosophy A) believe everyone else is "just like them" (massively false) and B) tend to gravitate towards positions of power where they can do the most amount of damage to the largest number of people.

Ayn Rand's teaching are how you raise monsters. You take people who are already bordering on sociopaths and then you provide them excuses for their malignant, bigoted neuroses and a convenient scapegoat in the form of "under it all, everyone is actually just as horrible as me".

Now, don't get me wrong, I loathe the SWJ "blame and shame" approach to life too. (It's very Protestant, when you think about it.) But those nutters are merely the flip side of the coin. Ayn Rand's self-centered bigot brigade on one side and SJWs on the other.

The majority of humanity doesn't belong to either camp. Life isn't so easily reductionist that everyone neatly fits into one of the two boxes. We're really complex creatures. Neither fully altruistic nor fully selfish. Which is probably why most of resist either extreme trying to make us into a pure version of one end of a spectrum. Any spectrum.

Ayn Rand. Oy vey.

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This could be a very good thing.

I hope it helps reduce the tendency towards quasi-religious "technical" arguments that favour one group of technologists or use cases over all others. Maybe we'll even see an acknowledgement by the IETF that vendors can't be counted on to play nice. They won't deploy patches, updates or new protocols just because the technocrats agreed upon them.

Vendors, service providers and so forth willl wring every last dollar possible out of what they have. Similarly, consumers and SMBs want 10 year lifespans (at least!) for their equipment.

For me it would be nice to see people who champion the idea that "that just because money is essentially free to academia and the large enterprise world doesn't mean it is to the rest of us" aren't mocked, ridiculed, berated, shamed and ultimately forced out. I realize that's a pipe dream, but it is my dream of inclusion and consideration regarding the IETF.

In the meantime, let's get any diversity possible going at the IETF. New ideas. New approaches. New people. Go forth, technocrats, and diversify!

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Microsoft whips out PowerApps – now your Pointy Haired Boss can write software, too!

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Re: Anyone remember Frontpage?

"Good pay doesn't generate experienced developers"

Experience generates a demand from developers for good pay.

Treating them like shit and not meeting their pay demands encourages them to seek employment elsewhere.

But please, go run your little company in the belief that you can always win with the worst paid people. I'll enjoy your bankruptcy.

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Re: Anyone remember Frontpage?

"I have personally never met a truly talented IT person of the type I recruit (developer or otherwise) who left the IT field to do something else more profitable."

Then you haven't met a lot of people. I can point you at well over a thousand top-flight nerds who've left the field for something more profitable. Most of them into management. Some into jobs that are only equally as profitable but where the hours are far more flexible and they have way less stress. (This was a route I took, though I would be among the least qualified of the group I am talking about.)

There comes a point where $200k is just not worth the misery that comes with the job. Especially when you can get $200k just about anywhere else for far less effort.

Skilled developers are a dime a dozen. And if I am perfectly honest, the skilled developers never really stop being developers: they continue writing programs all the time, but they stop doing it for corporate overlords.

Those developers might become management or marketing or what-have-you, but they then contribute to open source, or write things that amuse them or they transition to infosec, using their skills for hacking.

Ahhh, infosec. Infosec absorbs good developers like a black hole accreting matter. If you are, in fact, a skilled developer you can take you $100k salary and make it $250k over night. A $250k developer can be a $1M infosec nerd in few months.

So sorry, mate. If you honestly think that skilled developers - or even mediocre ones! - stick with the punitive position of "corporate bitch" for overlong, we have some very different definitions of skilled.

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Anyone remember Frontpage?

The entire idea that there "aren't enough developers" is horse manure. There are a functionally unlimited supply, many of them trained, experienced and idle. The problem is that nobody wants to pay them a living wage or provide humane working conditions. So the developers leave the field and go elsewhere.

The new developers brought in to replace them aren't as experienced. They are willing to work for peanuts at first, but realize quickly that living with 12 room mates in a 3 bedroom that's 400sq ft is asstastic and they go do something more profitable.

If you want more quality coders pay their rates. Otherwise you get commodity software developed by commodity developers.

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Blighty competition watchdog pokes pointy finger into cloud storage

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Re: Why do they do it?

That will work really well once your house is on fire. And that isn't one disk, is it? It's two.

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Re: Why do they do it?

If your data does not exist in at least two places then it does not exist.

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Is it a Loon or is it a drone? Google seeks experimental radio license in US

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Re: Google used to be a search engine...

Microsoft and Hollywood haven't made a religion out of turning Verizon into a boogyman. That's how.

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HTTPSohopeless: 26,000 Telstra Cisco boxen open to device hijacking

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Cisco: a trustworthy member of the IT community.

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Russian nuke plant operator to build on-site data centre

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Re: So?

Today's nuclear waste is tomorrow's nuclear fuel.

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MPs and peers have just weeks to eyeball UK gov's super-snoop bid

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"I thought that one of the roles of the judiciary is to give protection from abuse of political powers."

You're pretty old, aren't you? The role of the judiciary is to protect the political class from dissidents.

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HPE to open private London drinking club

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Re: Ale or GTFO

If all you drink is that liquid bread shite then who'd want you?

Lager all the way.

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North Korea is capable of pwning Sony. Whether it did is another matter

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Re: Complete invulnerability?

I can think of a dozen different "properly configured" VPN implementations I can crack. So that sort of puts paid to your very bad design.

Eggshell computing is a horrible, horrible, horrible security design. You are wrong and you should feel bad.

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Re: Just one thing

Government anything is typically late, over-budget and doesn't work. Unless that government project is about oppressing their own citizens. Then it's delivered early, under-budget and is creepily efficient.

They can never make something that lets you renew your driver's license quickly, or distribute smart cards so we can all vote online, but damned if they don't get license plate recognition and automated speed fines working in a matter of weeks after it's legalized.

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Re: @Trevor_Pott "They've reversed the polarity on the tachyon inverter"

I'm actually really disappointed noone got the scope of the reference. Yes, it was a TNG joke. The Enterprise-D didn't have a tachyon generator, let alone a tachyon "inverter". (And a reversed polarity inverter should just be a normal generator.) The Enterprise-D consistently had to monkey with the main deflector to produce tachyons in anything other than very small quantities, and having at any point something that "inverts" the operation of the main deflector would be a very bad thing for that ship.

It's worth noting, however, that the Defiant regularly produced both Tachyons and Chronitons without having to involve the main deflector. Presumably the Enterprise's need to send some red shirt to get melted by a plasma leak in the Jefferies tubes every time a tachyonic something or other was required meant that generators for those were added as standard equipment. </giant nerd>

That said, hat tip to Alister for picking up on the "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" which was indeed front of mind when I started crafting the sentence.

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I disagree. You're making a classic mistake thinking that defense is essentially a checkbox-following procedure of "doing the right things". It's not. You need to think messily. You need to think of new and innovative ways to break your own design.

The stuff that shelfware exists to solve is only a small part of the problem. It is nothing more than the beginning. Good defense, like great offense, requires totally orthogonal thinking. And yes, it will and does require implementing things that don't exist as off-the-shelf products. Open source or not.

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Attacking is easier than defending. It is easy to train attackers. It is not so easy to find attackers who have flipped over and trained to defend.

A good defender needs experience attacking. A good attacker does not need experience defending, though they could do with studying the shelfware.

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Green rectangles are the new rounded rectangles

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WTF

"transformative, flexible and agile as we are becoming, while standing out from the pack"

Was "everything else was taken" somehow not an acceptable response? It makes me physically ill that anyone got paid to come up with this bullshit, and I work with marketdroids 8 hours a day.

I came up with a logo for my company when we started. It is an albino bristlenose plecostomus. When asked, I can and do give honest reasons why. Namely:

1) I like bristlenosers. I think they're cute. They have a lot of personality and their antics in a community tank make me smile.

2) Almost nobody knows what it is, so it's a great conversation starter.

3) Pleco!

But seriously, HP? It's a rectangle. A rectangle. How the metric fuck is it "agile" or "flexible"? And how in the name of His Noodly Self is it "transformative"?

That someone got paid for this....RAWRGFRAGLEBALRGERG....

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NetApp, now much more object storage than you’d think

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Re: Nobody Cares

Absolutely! NetApp offer you the possibility of just adding more shelves to solve any problem for any reason! Forget your archaic conceptualization of "value for dollar" or "storage that is suited to the needs of the customer". Just add a shelf and keep adding shelves until your datacenter's primary workload is ONTAP, with some other things that are an excuse for ONTAP to be deployed.

NetApp!

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Want to defend your network? Profile the person attacking it

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Re: #BBW

I didn't say it was impossible, I said it was hard. It is the one part of criminal compromise that requires the most orthogonal thinking and the part of the operation where you are most vulnerable to detection.

I also am not about to write an article explaining how to solve the one truly hard problem in criminal data exfiltration. I leave that as an exercise for the reader.

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All Cisco certs add cloud, IoT, 'business transformation'

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Re: "exciting as careers in professions like the law"

"the lawyers I know are hard-working, clever people who can wrap their minds around the many nuanced approaches that the law has developed to very complex problems"

Never met a lawyer like that. All the lawyers I know are pretty cookie-cutter types that push paper, fill our forms, follow patterns and scripts and that's about it. In most ways they resemble bored help desk operators, except that instead of Google or some internal wiki they have some overworked middle-aged woman running around in the back fetching an unending stream of paperwork, doing research and ordering around younger women to do even more research.

These lawyers find creative approaches to absolutely fuck all. Their purpose in life is to tell everyone how screwed they are and that there is absolutely nothing that they can do to help themselves. The law wasn't designed to work in their favour and it never will.

They can - and do - bill unbelievable fuckpiles for their work. They get away with it because the law mandates that all sorts of interactions with government, other companies, etc require a lawyer to be involved.

Like accountants, they have no requirement to innovate or even think, because they have engineered a system that requires everyone to use their "services" regardless of need.

Now, admittedly, the overwhelming majority of my interaction with lawyers is civil issues, not criminal. Perhaps these "hard-working, clever people" end up in criminal law over here. I don't know.

I do know that in Canada the lawyers I've had the misfortune of dealing with are overpaid and underworked. They care so little about their jobs that even when you are physically in a room with them they aren't really there.

Unlike systems administrators this isn't because they're dead inside. It's because the life they live outside the confines of their ridiculously expensive offices is so much more exciting than whatever you're bothering them with that they'd rather relive it in their own memories than deal with whatever issue you've got to be dealt with.

I want some of those hard-working, clever lawyers. Maybe if we had some the little guy would win once in a while on this miserable continent. Maybe if that happened once in a while it would stop being such a corrupt, awful place.

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"exciting as careers in professions like the law"

I don't see network administrators ever being paid seven figures while only being expected to work 40 hours a week and having unlimited interns/paralegals/$minions to boss around and make do the real work. You know, like the whole reason you go into law.

So, um...how is networking like law again?

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What America's drone owner database could look like in future

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Re: Yes please

...and privacy law.

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This storage startup dedupes what to do what? How?

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Re: A question on hashing

IANACE (I Am Not A Crypto Expert), so don't take this as the final word, but if I recall correctly hash collisions are a theoretical possibility with all hashing algorithms. It simply becomes a question of the size of the hash space as to how likely those collisions are.

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Re: Bah!

That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me, thanks!

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Re: A question on hashing

Hi Steve,

Hash collisions are a pain. These can be avoided in any number of ways but usually boil down to using a hash space so large the chances are exceptionally unlikely you'll ever encounter one. (See here: http://www.backupcentral.com/mr-backup-blog-mainmenu-47/13-mr-backup-blog/145-de-dupe-hash-collisions.html) Of course, this doesn't eliminate hash collisions which is why a almost nobody uses simple hashing anymore.

Each company has their own take, but a scary number of deduplication approaches really are just "hashing with some kludges to solve minor problems" (like collisions), where "solving" doesn't mean "eliminating entirely".

Actually coming up with really novel ways to do data efficiency didn't seem to become "a thing" until the latest round of the storage wars started about 5 years ago. For many government and enterprise buyers this can be a problem. They only buy from the legacy vendors, unless the new ones go through years of proving out. This can - and does - leave some ops teams in a bit of a pickle trying to deliver the full range of modern functionality. (Or, at least, trying to delivery it at prices that compete with public cloud computing, which isn't as feature rich or as secure, but it is the reality of what they are compared to. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.)

That being said, kludges aside, things like hash collisions can happen. So don't take your 10 year old SAN with it's primitive deduplication features and try to shove 1PB worth of data into it by "just adding some shelves". The bigger the space the more likely you're going to run into problems with implementations.

Mostly, if you refresh every 5 years you shouldn't have to worry. Also, if you use one of the new technologies that isn't hash reliant, you shouldn't run into these issues.

At 100TB you should be fine. Even at 500TB you probably run no risks worth mentioning. But if you are planning at any point to have a storage space larger than 1PB using one of today's storage technologies then demand to speak to a nerd and start asking exactly these sorts of questions of them. It isn't that hash collisions themselves are a likely risk, but you start getting into the scale where implementations don't quite match the theory and it's worth asking the questions.

And don't just look at what you plan to load your storage system with today. Think about the total life cycle of the system. 5 years in production and 5 years as an archival unit. Will you expand it to 1PB in that time? If so, be relentless in your inquisition. If you don't get the warm fuzzies from the answers you are given, move on.

There are lots of storage companies to choose from.

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Brit filmmaker plans 10hr+ Paint Drying epic

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Optimal solution

Create a competition between 4chan and reddit to come up with the single worst movie of all time. A movie that would make CIA interrogators looking break a subject weep with horror. Then film it and submit it.

The downside is that the despair for the sheer horribleness of which humanity is capable will cause anyone actually reading more than 5 minutes of that script would simply walk outside their house and blow their own head off. You'd go through a crew of thousands before you got the film shot and it would eventually be classified as a war crime.

But a film that was the result of a head to head between 4chan and reddit to create the most horrible thing ever would be one hell of a form of political protest.

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Windows 8.1 exams kept alive six more months, Win 7 tests immortal

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Re: Probably a necessity

Oh, I disagree, sir. You are the living embodiment of those individuals which give Linux a bad name.

I, a Linux user for nearly two decades, bring up the fact that Linux is an inconsistent user experience across distributions (and it is a fact,) and you reply essentially saying "but that's irrelevant!" You are concerned about the perception of Linux, wanting to downplay any potential issues with arguments about semantics and an ever shifting goalpost of relevance such that any complaints can ultimately be dismissed.

This is why Linux has never managed to gain any traction on the desktop and why Android occupies the compltely-shit end of the mobile market.

This whole "the user experience doesn't matter" attitude is fucking poisonous. It is the very real problem at the core of all things Linux, from the pathetic attempts at desktop implementations to building and maintaining a server OS that's worth a damn.

Completely irrelevant minor distributions with no enterprise support and no hope of ever achieving anything like it do not constitute "alternatives" to anything except hobbyist level pissantry, self inflicted foot-oriented gunshot wounds and an interesting series of methods to get one's self into a world of commercial legal liability problems.

In the real world there is Red Hat, SuSe, sort of Ubuntu and fuck all else. When Red Hat farts, 10,000 tiny distros choke to death on the fumes. When Red Hat rolls over, the entire Linux ecosystem falls out of bed.

This isn't about "what I want". This is about stability and consistency. The discussion was about the stability and consistency of the Windows OSes. The comment was made that Linux is somehow better. It is not.

For all that Linux is good and has some excellent aspects, it is in no way more stable, consistent and certainly not more easy to use than Windows. It is as inconsistent across versions of the same distribution as Windows is, and as inconsistent across distributions as Windows is across it's own major versions.

Now, if you feel the need to take the speaking of truths in this matter and somehow see that as an attack on Linux, you need professional help. It's not. But you've clearly associated your self identity with Linux to such an extent that pointing out areas where work needs to be done feels to you like a personal attack.

Get help. Get over it. And maybe, just maybe, come back and we can all work towards making Linux a more stable, consistent experience that will benefit the entire industry.

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Re: Probably a necessity

@Doctor Syntax

"I think I can see your problem. You're not really using vi, you're using vim which stands for "vi improved". And all those improvements allow distros to play silly buggers with config. Old vi has been available since V7, which included the code for ed became open source. Old vi is confusingly called new vi, nvi. Use that instead."

Bingo. Except some distros map vi to vim and others don't. Some put vi under a new name, others don't. There's no consistency, and it requires learning who's done what that's different from the next guy. Which was sort of my point.

Also: re Red Hat 6.x still being "real Linux"...I agree. Unfortunately, support won't last forever, and nobody has taken up forking it and continuing on with a great distribution.

IMHO, Red Hat's arrogance has killed Linux. It's time now for all of us to learn BSD, for better or worse.

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@Uncle Slacky

I've been getting behind Slackware more and more recently, but honestly having trouble with BSD. BSD is just different enough that it's actually quite frustrating to use. It looks like Linux. It feels like Linux. But every time I go to use my decades of Red Hat muscle memory something doesn't quite work right or some command isn't there. BSD is something I learn in small doses in between a lot of cursing.

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I've bunged my protest money in their direction. I haven't seen anything like a practical product yet, however.

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Not really. Red Hat has changed all this. Consider for a moment that minimal install of RHEL 7 doesn't even come with ifconfig! Starting and stopping services is completely different (fuck you sideways, with a rusty tractor, systemd!) and the names of many basic services have changed.

It's not enough to know some basic POSIX stuff. A distribution of Linux is way more than just basic POSIX stuff. It's names, file locations, configurations of basic software and more.

Editing a text file in Red Hat-based distributions is simple. You use vi. And all you really need to know is "i" for insert, ":q!" to quit if you screwed up, ":wq" to write and quit and you're good. There are, of course, other useful commands in vi, but you can administer a system with just those.

Move over to Ubuntu and...wait...vi doesn't behave the same. it's configured differently and doesn't respond to commands the same. Well, shit.

Now, we can go on and on about the whys and wherefores and even the how these things are made to occur. It doesn't matter. What matters is that the differences between Linux distribution versions can be (and often are) as big as the differences between any two Windows versions. What's more, different Linux distributions have drifted so far apart that they now represent a bigger real-world gap in administration than did the NT line to the 9.x line back in the day.

Linux isn't unified. And what you know in one doesn't quite port to the other. That's bollocks.

If II know Windows really well I can probably pick up $Linux_Distribution_1 as easily as if I knew $Linux_Distribution_2 really well. It has nothing to do with which OS you learn first. It has everything to do with understanding the fundamentals of how and operating system works, and why it works.

But knowing the fundamentals won't stop you from having to study, and study hard. Because the UI - text based or GUI, it doesn't matter - changes all the fucking time in Linux. Just like it does in Windows.

The difference in Linux is that you have choice. If you want to change the UI and set it up so that it behave as you expect and how it is burned into your muscle memory you can.

Or could. You know, before Systemd.

Fuck systemd.

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Tesla recalls every single Model S car in seatbelt safety probe

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Tesla potential safety problem with a seatbelt: voluntary recall.

Other major manufacturers proven problems with hackable cars, braking systems and more: deny for years until the deaths of hundreds or thousands trigger a lawsuit and regulatory investigation.

You know what? Fuck yeah, Tesla! Good show.

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Hillary Clinton: Stop helping terrorists, Silicon Valley – weaken your encryption

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@Big John

It absolutely is all your fault. By "you" I am indicating here the cohort of people who are ultraconservative bigots, but disregarding race, gender, religion ethnicity or country of origin.

Terrorism has no religion. But the most conservative individuals of all religions consistently seem to do the most damage to society. ISIS, Al Queda and so forth are the crazy-town class conservatives of their region. Their inhumanity towards others has caused the biggest migration of refugees since World War II.

Should you and others like you (Westboro Baptist Church would be an example of others I feel share roughly your capability for compassion and empathy) really be pushing for increased bigotry at home as well? Do we really need that sort of shit on our continent?

I will repeat this one more time: terrorism has no religion. An as you so ably prove, neither does the rampant bigotry that fuels it.

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