4813 posts • joined 28 May 2010
someone to make a joke about how Apple Fanbois and Carers...
Did you even READ the article?
a)The media player option might attract a new customer base
b)kids are always being born so every year there is a new wave
I think the 12Gb one should come bundled with a remote control if it's aimed at media consumption. It's really good and makes it seem much more a real media system to non-teenagers!
Re: I smell fail
At launch manufacturers will have no idea what they can sell for. You can expect prices to plummet once more than one company has devices.
Re: who cares?
>>still haven't figured out what it takes to get a bestseller
You apart from Windows, Office and XBox? And Visual Studio. And Visio. And Powerpoint. And Kinect.
It's nothing to do with MS, that's Asus taking the piss. We've seen Android tabs from £100 to £700 so why would Windows be any different?
It doesn't take take thousands of years
If you're the one doing the travelling it doesn't take long, only if if you want to remain in contact with Earth is it an issue.
100m is a massive number even if it's only 10-20% of what FB has. Can they really have that many active users? What does active mean though... been to the site? Posted something? Simply used a Google service while logged in?
Re: An honest question
Apart from the visible stuff like formatting (Open/Libre has NEVER managed not to screw this up for me) Office does a hell of a lot more than you might realise, that OSS doesn't.
For one thing all the macro support is very powerful. For another integration between the different apps (Word, Excel, Access). Thirdly, the ability to call into Office from your own code and generate documents automatically (or to use libs to create Office docs without using Office directly).
To a normal user none of this means much but it's why Office is unrivaled in the techy world. Libre like FireFox is targeting the general home user.
Re: EU law
Are they definitely saying you can't uninstall and re-register it on another device by contacting customer service? Are MS saying that I mean, not El Reg's reporting of it? That seems a bit unlikely... what if your PC dies or is upgraded?
Re: Microsoft seeks money
If you normally upgrade to the newest Office, subscription (at those prices) seems a no-brainer assuming your sub lets you automatically get newer versions.
Note if you're setting up a business, paying a sub also reduces your startup costs.
I've never used 365/OnDemand though so whether they're any good I can't say. But if the sub lets you install proper local versions too, I don't think it's too bad. $99 for a whole household to use Office legally is a steal really compared to the old way (even though everyone just installed the same copy on all their PCs).
Tossing in a Skype plan and SkyDrive is a nice touch for both sides although isn't that using a monopoly in Office software to get a dominant position in Cloud storage and web-telephony?
Re: No microSD-card slot?
Damn they'll rue that 1 lost sale
Is just sour grapes that it might hurt his sales.
It's a good point that for gamers, W8 might be just fine. I wonder if the new XBox will be based in some way on W8... like a Mac have a standard PC with a fixed hardware spec so developers know exactly what to target.
You might as well ask how many books any year were that year's smash #1. The answer is lots... a few years back it would be the latest Harry Potter novel.
What's your point? Popular stuff sells more?
He did it a few days before release hoping it would be fixed in time? Rather than weeks/months ago?
Call me cynical but it seems like attention-seeking to me.
Re: IE? Who uses that shit ?
It's widely known and widely used but IE9 is just fine thanks. I hope IE10 continues the trend but unlike other commentards I won't pass judgement on something I never used.
Re: Application portability. Microsoft style
Why would an exploit on newer versions NOT work on older ones? Do you think they start each browser totally from scratch?
Because a browser has a security bug we should stop using it? What do we do when FireFox has an exploit? Move to Chrome? Then what when Chrome has a bug?
Software gets exploited, the important thing is that the bugs get addressed not that they exist.
"nothing new", "not comparable with Android phones", etc.
I'm not an iPhone lover but it seems getting a damn fast phone into a damn thin case with improved battery life makes for a pretty competitive device.
If it's real of course.
It's as good a guess as any other...
Note that if MS get a big chunk of the business tablet market, that could fulfill the prediction alone. And THAT seems entirely plausible to me. People would use Windows tablets for Outlook alone in the business world.
Re: Bit confused by this "HD Voice" mularkey.
lots of people said HD TV wasn't needed, but it's quite nice :)
Re: challenge accepted
Unity3D is a web-plugin and software run-time (a bit like Java/.NET) not a program.
Re: @JDX Apple's walled garden for music
So sorry for not owning an iPhone.
If that's the case why does everyone cry about Apple's evil walled garden then? Music is by far the biggest area of content paid for and if you're not locked in to Apple, what's the problem for most users (i.e. not including the few who buy lots of video on their phone)?
Content question to Android/Open fans
AFAIK MS' music store sells you music in non-DRM MP3 format the same as Amazon does; you need to use their special software to copy stuff betwixt phone/PC but you CAN copy it onto your PCs and other devices freely (please correct if wrong).
Does that count as a plus to those who like to whinge about Kindle/iTunes walled gardens, at all? That you can have a Windwos phone and be safe to move your music onto an Android later?
@HMB Re: Just amazing
Yes but back then only rich people HAD mobiles... it was a status symbol to have one at all.
Also not everyone had a PC either... these days it's more common for each person in the house to have a PC/laptop/tablet rather than the house PC. And most people didn't get a new PC every 2 years any more than they do now.
Re: Whatever happened to free at a tenner a month
You can find £10/mo contracts for OK phones. I'm sure I saw the Lumia 610 as well as some Androids... and we're not talking ultra-crappy Androids, just not quad-core monsters.
That people are prepared to pay £500 a year for a phone... and that goes fro the top Android (and probably WP) models too.
Where do you get the money for this... it's a cost we simply didn't have 15 years ago but now it's expected most young people have a decent smartphone.
It's A solution
Or you could write your app in cross-platform C++ (don't know if there are any good cross platform MOBILE UI toolkits though, like wxWidgets for Windows/Linux/Mac).
Re: Won't last long?
No they allowed it in the end.
Re: I give the iPhone another 3 years tops
The only crazed fanboism on El Reg is from the Linux/Android/FOSS crowd.
Re: RE: Old Handle
If Twitter said they didn't keep the data, would that 100% hold up in court? The court might decide they are responsible TO keep data - if I post something illegal on Twitter and then remove it, they should not allow me to delete it and get away scot free.
Re: Freedom 2.0
"When a Court in Iran/Syria/China/choose-a-State-thats-not-USA threatens Twitter with a hefty fine; why was/is/will it be so easy for them to stand on their mighty principles?!"
Because it's pretty damn difficult for a non-US court to actually impose/collect any fines on a US company. Seriously, you needed to even ask the question? They gave it up to the US courts because they operate under US law (and presumably many of the owners live in the US). Your little rant about morals doesn't have a place here.
"Meanwhile, to anyone involved in any form of protest who touchingly thinks that their 'privacy' will be assured by organisations as devoutly privacy-loving as TOR or Wikileaks, let alone Facebook or Twitter. Welcome to the real world."
Agreed. However I'd go further and suggest that thinking you're somehow entitled to privacy when you say something online "because it's the internet" is bogus. If you post something illegal online you damn well should be able to have that used against you.
As the pro-privacy/openness crowd point out, our data is very important. That cuts both ways - it's important it is treated with responsibility in ALL ways.
It is crucial for MS to eat it's own dogfood, only then do you get first-hand usage feedback about what seemed a good idea but doesn't work well.
Re: Not soon though
Yes but MS will be happy to you to upgrade to W7. It's still money... in fact a lot more money.
Businesses which haven't yet started looking at a W7 migration MIGHT figure it's better to jump to W8 though, rather than upgrade to something already outdated.
No, you'll just be able to pay for hookers.
Hoping for deals on the 4S
The wife's got a 3GS which is starting to creak quite noticeably, she's resigned to the fact that buying new top-end phones is a stupid extravagance (well resigned to me holding the purse strings) but I'm hoping we'll see better deals on the 4GS (which as has been said is pretty damn good) once it's no longer the new boy.
Re: Not for me
Apple hardly make a big % of their cash from accessories do they?
Re: I can shorten the whole article for you...
You're just bitter 'cos mummy won't buy you one.
No SD card slot in this day and age is a crime
No it's not. It's a minor issue that only a select minority of users care about. That's why phone makers - even Android ones - don't view it as a must-have feature.
Re: No Lumia?
Since the phones aren't released yet and the reviews have been positive, I can only assume you made your opinion based on not liking the colour ;)
Re: No Lumia?
I mean the Windows version obviously...
Too crap or too new?
The old-school Nano is a triumph of form providing function... I can't see why anyone wants to play video on it but a wheel + 1 button is lovely. It's far nicer than these touch-screen thingies.
Re: I'll wait for another year, again.
I imagine they simply figure the % of people who not only have that much music but care enough to buy a classic over a smaller model, is too small to justify frequent updates. Coupled with the whole iCloud thing it seems sadly for you that you're too niche
If they're looking into Windows slates/tablets too, and maybe phones, then perhaps such a migration makes some sense. I can't see a good reason to rush into it otherwise.
Did they time this news alongside the iPhone 5 announcement...
...hoping people wouldn't notice?
Re: Can anyone....
If you don't tell iTunes your FB login, it won't use this new stuff. Solved.
Why would you stick a brand new, bloated OS on a low-power cpu?
Where do you get Bloated from? W8 is by all accounts nippier than W7 which was nippier than Vista.
Re: Only one problem?
That's just another band-aid though (sorry to use the US term). You don't just need to be able to write in a nice language but debug it, etc. And since JS is so heavily optimised it all just gets really messy, surely?
I think something like Google's NaCl is a neat idea - but that also suffers from tools. With C++/Java/.Net the debugging tools you have are simply sensational these days and stepping backwards from that seems, well, backwards.
the ECMAScript used in Flash (AS3) is a lovely little language, why can't we have that at least? Although frankly the whole DOM and CSS mess doesn't fit well with 'proper' apps in my view... web-pages and web-apps don't fit well together.
Are we going to end up everyone writing their graphics inside a Canvas using custom rendering, basically what Flash did?
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