No. I wouldn't watch it.

Re: Off Topic, regarding "Retina"

I haven't bought into the hype... I think the retina resolution on the iPad3 and MBP is already TOO HIGH. So while Apple probably did well to raise it higher than it was, trying to beat Apple isn't worthwhile... focus on adding more visible features.

Re: Off Topic, regarding "Retina"

Apple have arguably pushed it (DPI) to the level beyond which improving further is a bit pointless. And remember it's only on the phones others have caught up, which Apple brought in ages ago. iPad3 and new MBP DPI still smash the competition (I don't know it's particularly useful but it's one area Apple have a clear lead, still)

Re: Downvotes?

>>My, aren't the fanbois sensitive this morning...

I think it's more the fact that this joke is several months past its sell-by date.

That sounds about right to me.

>>Um...how do you know it's Android fanboys? Seems like you have your own set of irrational prejudices...

You really didn't see the sarcasm?

Re: Nice photoframe?

Is Retina trademarked or anything? It doesn't seem to have a specific definition but does that prevent it being trademarked - I assume not?

Re: Hey Tim

Maps with cruddy data that you can avoid with a different app or using Safari.

Vs

Getting hundreds of millions of people to uninstall in some unsupported fashion to an earlier version. Cue hordes of bricked devices and mass hysteria!

Idiot.

Re: Sorry, but at the moment...

All money is electronic money apart from cash. Your bank accounts sure are.

Re: A rather small collection

How does a polar bear get blown off course?

Re: Muff is duff

>>perhaps they could make and sell 'useable' versions of the vulvae in the form of fleshlights so you can try them out for yourself.

you want to bone fake animals?

I was just about to say the same - this thread just shows the hilarious nature of Android fanbois. And much as they like to claim they're simply "the educated ones", downvoting every comment about someone owning a WP device just shows they really ARE fanbois with just as little rational argument as the iTards.

Either that or they're Google shills. Yes, probably that.

You're clearly a tasteless trucker who just wants as much meat for his £2 as possible.

Re: satellite broardband sucks is why

It sounds like you speak from ignorance to me. Lag and speed are totally different. If you were playing an online game, a 56k modem might be far superior than satellite. If you were downloading a 1Gb file then things are reversed.

Re: Hey Tim

Yeah that won't lead to a massive wave of problems since it's not designed to work this way.

Re: Nokia Maps

I imagine it was a dig at iOS6?

Re: CPW

If you can get a decent 12-month contract then the whole "doesn't support WP8" complaint goes away so that sounds quite interesting. Except I already bought a Lumia sim-free...

>>Uhm, isn't that a case of the iPhones GPS not being able to figure out exactly where you are rather than the maps application not knowing where places are?

Surely there is no excuse for GPS not getting your position to within 1m these days?

Re: precison engineer

You need to pop the yolk before eating the thing!

Yes thieves need a sticker to guess you're not in during the hours 9-5 when there is no car on your drive and the lights are turned off.

Re: Why?

Never mind the "why IT?" issue, why is this even reported as news at all? McDonalds fires someone for not following the rules - bombshell.

@Graham

You've been watching too much TV. the USA might on average have wider roads but they still have narrow 1-lane roads and busy cities... if a car can self-drive in a city then that's pretty much the ultimate test.

Having good maps is all well and good but people don't need that. Just two squishy eyeballs is all we need to navigate these fiendishly difficult tasks.

Sure on a 1-track road with passing places it will be SAFE - it will not drive into the oncoming car but will slow to a safe stop. But it MIGHT not know what to do, however then you would simply take over; nobody is suggesting these are not going to allow human intervention.

So I imagine the car would safely slow to a halt and then you sort it out until the other guy stops honking at you.

Re: This brings a new meaning to...

>>Can a robot with moving parts that break or wear out, programmed by notoriously-fallible humans do a worse job than human drivers?

Your car is already a 'robot' controlled by software. If the software was buggy you might find things like brakes didn't work.

Re: So...

Don't be daft Dave, the 'rounded corners' joke is still totally ROFL so why miss an opportunity to prolong it.

Re: Quality, quality, quality...

What do you mean, if?

Re: Five years? They're on crack

I do love every time we have a story on auto-cars we get comments along the lines of "it won't handle a junction or something unexpected".

Really, you seriously don't think they thought of those things? You think they're pushing to put these into mass production but didn't do any testing apart from on quiet dual carriageways? Come on get serious, they are already legal in a couple of states.

You massively underestimate the state of modern computing.

Re: This brings a new meaning to...

Add one small risk, take out several bigger ones - the net effect is positive.

@Ben Rose, Test Man

Firstly, does Google make ads money from maps if you search for "restaurants" and then click on one? Do maps use adwords, etc - I thought it displayed everything relevant in the vicinity you were searching based on distance? I never thought about how they monetise maps before, I figured they did it for free to build the brand but am happy to be corrected how it works.

>>No one is going to move away from Apple just because there isn't a Google Maps app on iPhone

I don't think that's a safe assumption. To many people, maps are a must-have tool and for others, using your phone as a sat-nav is indispensable. So I could certainly see people due an upgrade thinking harder about whether they stick with Apple.

Also, there are always new customers looking for their first phone. If they can be headed away from getting into Apple in the first place, they quite likely will end up stuck in whichever ecosystem they go for.

Either way, Nokia have a wonderful opportunity here to sit on the edge and pick up the scraps.

I think Google can re-use the servers easily for Google Drive/Docs.

We don't know what Apple were paying for Google Maps but think of all the ads Google can run for "phones with good maps".

Re: Heres an idea.

Nokia Drive has proved pretty damn good for me so far even on my crappy low-spec Lumia 610. Doesn't even whinge if you turn data off and you get free worldwide maps.

Re: So...

>>Let me guess, we encourage the spread of the wasp to combat the Redback, then discover that the vicious little bugger is more of a problem than the spider.

I knew an old lady who swallowed a fly...

Re: Not poisonous

>>"Maybe both" just means you don't remember the definitions, and are hedging your bets

Never mind. if you didn't understand, try reading the previous replies again and see if you can figure it out.

Re: You got that right mate

It's all very well being all idealistic and saying we should only use standards but any fool can see the HTML5 standard doesn't cover enough of the areas of functionality needed to do all the things HTML5 is promised for. Therefore we HAVE to have non-standard extensions, all we can hope is that different browsers copy each other rather than all making their own.

FireFox and Chrome are massively non-standard with all the extra extensions they support, this is no different.

Re: WP8

The Lumia 800 is a fairly high-spec device. The low-end Lumia 610 is closer to £100 (about $150) so even there there is a big difference from $99.

Re: How do they know?

Probably yeah, there will be footprints. For instance if you use a Go library function that probably compiles to an easily identifiable set of ASM/HEX codes.

I'd like the haters to explain why they invest so much time writing and caring about a product they don't own. Maybe get on with your own life.

Re: 'The thinnest, slickest, fastest iPhone yet.'

Well it's a LOT faster and a better battery.

But otherwise... I guess they already have all the features in the 4S so they don't NEED to innovate. Most of the new features on other phones are just gimmicks, all top smartphones already do all the key things required of a computer which does phone+camera.