47 posts • joined Friday 23rd April 2010 20:22 GMT
windows and byod doesn't match
The main reason for succes of iOS and Android is the ease of use or better the ease of system management of your own device. You don't have to be like a system administrator. Quite different from Windows (Pro/i386/x86_64) devices with its endless ways of installing and updating software from all sources. My experience is that ordinary people are not capable of properly take care of their device. With the controlled environments of Apple and Google this is a no-brainer. Maybe WinRT can compete but this platform lacks all other advantages of 'normal' windows. A very difficult game Microsoft has to play.
'Seriously? This came from Microsoft (by proxy)? They have the biggest ones I've ever seen'
No if it's your strategy to have a software monopoly and crunch all your competitors then it's all right. ;-)
'It is not possible to remove Google apps (e.g. Chrome, Maps etc).'
Bullish, look at cyanogen mod or Amazon's kindle. Booth without chocolate apps.
hard battle voor microsoft
Microsoft tries to get a piece of the action (remember their cloud presence is almost like their phone's) with higher prices than their biggest competitor? Good luck! Because I can see no compelling reason that one has to buy Microsoft in the cloud. Cloud == web and web based stacks on Linux are hot while Microsoft's stack is not. The only reason is some old-fashioned enterprise app that requires windows. There are a lot off them, but I hardly see any new load coming to Windows.
So they are putting a HA cluster in a SPOF??? What are they smoking??? Making a very complicated setup (means much more change to f*k-up) in a SPOF rig? What's the point? So you can check "we have an HA cluster"? Or is w2k12 so unreliable you always need two? or....
If you really want to master Linus system administration:
0. Take a LSB course
1. Linux from scratch
2. Choose family
3. Master the package manager (pkg/apt or rpm/yum,zypper,..)
4. Learn basic vi
5. Learn basic regex
6. Learn to script, start with basic bash later you can matter python
7. Learn autoyast (side family)/kickstart (red hat family)/preseed (Debian family) for fully automated OK installation
8. Learn puppet/chef
By then you've got a few years of experience.
Re: Microsoft copying Google YET AGAIN
Office365 is a Windows only sollution so one can argue if it is web based software or a last century fat client solution in disguise?
Re: tablets, as they are now, are a dead end
Or will it be like this: you pair your smartphone our tablet with a dumb terminal with real keyboard, mouse and use your window () as screen at the office only if you have to do some 'real' work. When you are done you just take your device with you stop you can access your work everywhere from out of the cloud. Or am I smoking something now?
Re: I must be the odd one
You are absolutely right! IMAP support in Outlook is really bad, but then it was was never built for it.
Re: Well you are overlooking something
Big companies tend to put their own image of OS on a machine instead of the preinstalled OEM version. Wonder how this new scheme is goiing to affect the bih companies.
Re: Why am I not finding any of this remotely interesting?
So what you're describing is a 100% Microsoft lockin: sharepoint and O365 do not work on all devices (far from it) and it does not look like it's going to get better. Only if you buy in this Microsoft thingy for the full 100% it will work. And they trying to sell this in 2012??? They're still living a decade ago...(LOL)
Will Google buy Nokia?
Or at least make sure that the price is "right". Google might be interested because of all the IP Nokia possesses. I'm not sure if Motorola give them enough firepower....
Re: train wreck
"Metro is perfectly suited to those who want an entertainment/information displaying/social networking device... ie:a consumer. Productivity and use of a PC as a working tool is something else entirely, so whilst MS may win over the consumer with Metro they are going to have a hard time pushing it to those who use a PC as a productivity tool."
If this is their target who on earth will they win from iPad and Android? Don't see it happening. They will be third and that's not how the Microsoft eco system can survive... Start selling your shares...
Re: It never was about the software
I think MS won't be able to retain it's hold on the IT market as it is today. They're just too late on the smartphone/tablet market to get a > 90% market share. It a pity it took 20 years....
Re: It never was about the software
Do you have the answer for the (right) question?
Re: It's so clearly a turd
I dare you to compare with iOS.... that's what it's aiming at and there it will fail. Windows will never have it's monopoly again: thank god
There's only one problem with this "WIN": it won' t run on anything but microsoft.... So you buy a "cloud solution" that requires one make of client.... I'v never understood this...
decent information system
any decent information system lasts for centuries, nothing new here. Ask your bank when they started their banking system, I bet it during the 60's, maybe 70's, so that's pretty old too. Nothing wrong with old systems as long one keeps it current.
Re: What would Apple do?
Apple attracts people with nice products. They have to because they are not mainstream. What is MS doing: bullying people to walk their way. Someday this is going to fail. Will 8 be this failure? Place your bets, please.
Re: Not a chance
What if the tablet market keeps growing like it does now, how long will it take before more tablets than pc's are sold? I don't believe MS will have the same market share in tablets as they have in PC. MS has to reinvents itself to not become the next mainframe builder (you can still make shigloss of money with it, but you won't lead anymore)
Re: 15m people using iPhones on a 2G network?
Our use wifi? Like most people do with a smartphone whenever they can.
Re: Will it still apply
You mean that companies can pay local contractors in stead of handing over tax money to the USA... Our investing the money in their own company in stead of handing it over in a licensing scam....
Why paying for crap services anymore?
I'm a powershell noob, but " shutdown -s -t:1" reminds me of old times, now I just enter "poweroff" ;-)
just out curiosity
Is anyone here really looking out for WOA/Win8 and will line up for the stores? Does anyone really care?
devestating for some dutch gov
In the netherlands there is a large department that uses a secure memory stick as booting device to connect to the department's network. Personal equipment is used. This MS policy will harm all users big time when it starts to prevent officers to use their fresh bought laptop/pc to use this stick. If Dutch gov is wise they have to protect there investment now by stopping MS with this policy.
Is Defense Industry Enterprise enough?
"Unless they are some weird hippy corporation that hasn't yet learned better (not because firefox has a problem per se, just because a lot of business software still doesn't work 100% properly in it)."
Do you consider Defense (like government) hippy? So speak for yuorself and not what other oraganisations are running!
RE: 900,000 too low for 198MW of power
Google uses no SAN or NAS but use their 2 build in normal desktop (maybe laptop nowadays) sata disk to form their ever expanding uber GFS storage thing. Network interaces tops probable at 2 certainly no more (give me one good reason). The only thing they spend some money on is on ECC memory, all the rest they buy the best bung for the buck. So have a look in the price list of the most common HW vedors and you can make a good guess what a Google server could look like.
You need office local for this thing to work. So far for the cloud...
I far as I know it just won' t work if you haven't got office locally installed. Never understood the " cloud" thing in this offering...
eeehm, flash on Windows/ARM???
> What would you buy - a Win7 ARM device that lets you run anything you want, even Flash,or
> stick with an IOS device from Apple that will run only things that Steve Jobs approves of, and
> only then (most of the time) one at a time?
I dunno but why do you think flash will run on Windows/ARM? Right now it is an i386-binary, not an ARM. Porting Windows to ARM is nice and doable, but porting ALL known windows applications to Windows/ARM is another adventure.
No known applications (windows/i386 that is) will run on Windows/ARM without compiling. Good luck either without the source (Luke!!) or depended on ... Microsoft in the same way you are depended on Apple.
I guess that Google will replace it server park every 3, 4 or (max) 5 years. SO do the math that means (just replacement) 300.000 to 600.000 systems _each_ year!