111 posts • joined Monday 5th April 2010 07:56 GMT
A Brilliant Idea
would be to put people to work in the public sector, doing necessary tasks
we could call them 'public sector jobs'
of course the money would need raising, we could call that 'taxation'
no, wait, everyone recently voted against that, didn't they? :-D
think what the consequences of chowing 'the fruit of the poison tree' may be
hint, you may have seen some of the consequences in London recently :-D
there may be some misjudgment
As the PM is very persuasive, his statement that 'it was all looting' to paraphrase, may be an over-simplification;
it looked more as though people were in the streets for a variety of reasons including the main one of disaffection, then the looting happened as an opportunist reaction to the police standing around;
while clearly there was some organized looting, the initial 'organized' nature of it is hardly different to hardcore troublemakers causing confrontations at peaceful demonstrations
so banning facemasks, banning known troublemakers from organizing via social media during protests, may be workable legally although dubious technically, providing there is the proper level of supervision;
However we should be alert to the mischaracterization of the majority of the looters, as their original primary purpose was in most cases very different.
Even facemasks there is the potential of it restricting peaceful anonymous protest, I myself would say that without more jury trials generally, there's no guarantee that peaceful serial activists won't be the subject of harassment
reading more carefully
it sounds as though he's suggesting measures similar to banning known hooligans from football matches, could well be workable *providing it's handled properly*
25 Make all wages/benefits for the 99% of the population who constitute the underclass, worth 10% less
35 give all the bankers bonuses
further advantage, now it reads as though it involves putting 99% of the people on welfare at every iteration :-D
there are no time limits
providing you're prepared to think sufficiently laterally
to rekindle manufacturing – plus many additional beneficial effects – it's as simple as adding a clause to GATT to say that goods/services from producer countries that have worse conditions of labor may be levied for import duty in proportion to a cost estimate of the value of such working conditions
trouble is that free trade is virtually a religion now, it would be rather an obstacle course to persuade its advocates to accept such a reinterpretation of it
ps have you ever considered
that the reason you're working until 11pm is that you're a slave to money? Need to know when to stop?
it's everyone else's fault, no-one here is making more profits than they deserve, move along nothing to see here
the implications of their words
I suppose it's the police's job to talk tough, although obviously rather unrealistic
seems to me the entire business could be summed up in a few words
– Everyone involved seems to want to have their cake then eat it
that goes for rioters, politicians, police, shop owners, everyone; in no particular order, as it could be said that the selfish attitude of the rioters is the result of the selfish attitude they see everyone else successfully implementing
Maybe the nature of journalism is to pick up the kind of selfish reactions, although I'd say it's a sign of an illness affecting UK society
an unnamed constable
so they couldn't even get a sergeant to comment? The word of 'an unnamed constable' must be worth as much as the word of 'an anonymous source' then
Besides, the lack of trust in the legal system as a result of police larging it rather than legally, sensibly, enforcing sensible laws is clearly a very marginal reason :-D
Human Rights Act
As you say, there are many factors leading to the very real grievances that are somewhat banally evidenced in the looting of consumer goods;
As I see it the trouble is that it's easier to say 'change the Human Rights Act' than to provide a working alternative; even though as all laws are, it's a lottery who gets sometimes laughably kid-glove treatment, the principle is to delimit rigour from oppression, we definitely need some kind of definition of oppression in our law;
bringing us neatly back to the question of education, possibly we should emphasize civics classes so people – from all sides – understand the importance of some classical values such as honesty, integrity, responsibility, firmness, mercy, etc
those kinds of attitudes
won't prevent a repetition though, will they?
get a grip, what is this the daily wail comments?
the failure of the police is a contributing factor
@Paul - Basically, as you say, driving young people into criminality is a myopic direction for society, that our Thatcherite/Blairite overlords encouraged for years, including such demagogic moves as right-to-own then limiting new housing stock => driving house prices up so property owners could consume more german cars; ignoring the relative poverty that they were driving the non-elect into;
However the rôle of the police is less than an innocent one, as they've consistently lobbied for an accretion of the kind of unjust procedural laws that bolster unjust substantive laws; while in some areas actual attitude – the kind of stuff that Joe Public notices, is Old Bill an arrogant bully? Is Plod going to try to lift a finger to catch the criminals? etc – has improved, there's definitely room for further improvement
In a sense riots are a kind of poetic justice, noticeably given their spontaneity, they are a sign of widespread resentment, even though the 'gottagetateevee' attitude looks kind of contemptible at an individual level, it's the collective level that teaches us some lessons.
could tell you where the local cop/s lived
In Miami, to the best of my knowledge, you recognize the police officers' houses as there is a police vehicle parked in front of them at night-time – unless they're working nights
The safest system is one where there is generally mutual respect – luckily mostly the case nowadays – it avoids the kind of bottled-up hostility that causes riots
Looking at it objectively
Even scientology starts smelling of roses in comparison
– then, saying that, everyone's own interpretation of it would possibly be a function of their reaction to the notion of the means justifying the ends
As I seem to recall, one of the original incarnations of BigSocietyLoonMagnet.gov.uk included a stipulation that none of the petitions should be duplcates of petitions already started, actual enforcement of that rule would go some way to limiting the sheer loopiness factor of the sites
Traps Save Boobies from Alleged Booby Trap
there, fixed that for you :-)
Not merely 'evidence to the contrary'
According to the report at http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/htran/
"we were lucky enough to observe a transient event that showed a deliberate attempt to hide the true origin of an APT" in the PRC, so it sounds as though it's very compelling evidence, possibly even beyond a reasonable doubt :-)
as I said, the usual antisemites
google's business model
involves down-valuing hardware & software in favour of, basically connectivity; so it should be no real surprise when hardware & software manufacturers resist
Even the Beeb has noticed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14389430
PS written from Ubuntu so no realistic possibility of me being a fanboi :-D
an 'unspecified' foreign state, nudge nudge
it's mere coincidence that the 2008 olympics were held in Beijing, while google has already pointed the finger at China for operation Aurora; wait for the usual antisemites to point the finger at their favorite accusee though :-D
so now we know
who really wrote stuxnet
the twitter feed
well no, unless he were being held incommunicado, unusual for non-terrorists, it's quite straightforward for him to tell someone his twitter password;
the usual standard is that unless there's someone reasonably well identifiable who fits the moniker better, then the shetlander *is* topiary for current purposes
what part of the phone quality?
Firmware, it seems anecdotally; even the generally-decent 6230i, it so happens I've got a virtually-bricked 6230i here that Nokia wrongly refused to reflash the firmware under warranty for
that, in a few words, is the reason I for one see Nokia's slide as poetic justice
1 - the article says the policeman refers to John Doe's 'family background' = evidence of some intrusive questioning, possibly the kind that would lead to a person buttoning it up
2 - Utah, as we know, contains many Mormons, whose deeper attitude to polygamy is non-mainstream
3 - the policeman's suspicions of John Doe being some kind of vague unspecified mega-wanted person as a way of overstating his chagrin at the non-cooperation, are a clear sign of overzealousness;
so I have to infer that the thumbs down are from Mormons? Whoever you are, you seem unwilling to clearly state your contention
NB as it happens I'm in favor of legal polygamy, in a non-cult setting, particularly given current trends in the definition of marriage
have you ever lived in France?
There are loads of snotty French women; in fact there's an equation
p(speaking to a snotty French woman | calling a French number) = 1 - p(speaking to a snotty French bloke | calling a French number) - p(rain during a randomly picked day in August in the South of France) * p(a randomly picked small shop in a French town being open in August) * p(room to swing a cat at a beach in the South of France during August)
let me fix that for you
didn't they make their fortune selling people the business names those people had mistakenly assumed they already owned?
there, fixed :-)
commoditisation of human beings
there was a name for that at one time
now, would it be possible to sign up as William Wilberforce?
could the p2p traffic really be
telecoms – google voice, skype, etc – p2p traffic?
how would they know the difference?
He's In Utah, there's a good chance he's Married to more than 1 wife – in fact that could be a better reason for his reticence than the policeman's somewhat typically overzealous hunches
as a matter of law
historically – section 25 PACE – you could be arrested for a non-arrestable offence where it was impossible to properly ascertain your identity; aside from that, _in principle_ no-one should have been arrested simply for refusing to identify themselves;
it should be said that people were regularly unlawfully arrested for non-arrestable offences as a result of the police making mistakes of law – non-arrestable offences were generally the less serious ones; the provision allowing arrest when identity is unverifiable is however legal;
Now an arrest is allowed when 'necessary', including when identity can't be verified; there are no longer non-arrestable offences, thanks tony http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/15/section/110
she was both; the tragedy is that no-one was apparently capable of making her change her course before the final curtain
One of the simpler time-travel tenses
future conditional futuristic perfect - should be going to have happened
that is to say, the world + dog 'approve' of facebook/twitter updates for every move you make, hence many sites have 3rd party credentialling linked to – at least potential – news feeds of every comment / high score :-)
that's democracy as the internet understands it; so until true democracy overrides it, imposing some real laws to protect our privacy / our future rights, the only vote that counts is the internet equivalent of voting with your feet
Matt, congratulations for resisting the trolling instinct for once :-D
Hence the phrase
it really is a field of often surprisingly self-serving language
the risk level at Ben Gurion makes it one of the few places that a lack of much of a sense of humour is understandable; even so I'd say the checkers there are more human than at, say, Heathrow; possibly it's the level of intelligence, possibly the standard UK security guard mentality
that's the price of the 16 gig model
32 gigs from £50, 64 gigs from £90
how do they reach $2.50/IOPS for the Seagate Barracuda? A quick search says there's a 500GB 7200rpm SATA3 Barracuda @ $49 from Amazon, even cheaper from Ebay ~= $0.32/IOPS @ 180 IOPS coincidentally :-)
Even to reach $150 the Barracuda is SATA6 7200rpm 2TB, 64MB cache so someone's been shopping at Harrods :-D
I foresee tech support EP, as you'll now have to 'web-appify' all your sage comments, then there's translation from what Mum-in-Law is saying, to googlespeak for that function, etc; good luck :-)
it seems to have changed this year
Last year though ISTR several baseball players in the $50M region, must be the recession
it's mostly golf, basketball, motorsports, tennis, both kinds of football; a mere 11 baseball players in the top 50 athletes list now