Re: Perfectly understandable
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2462 posts • joined 24 Mar 2010
More interestingly try
"the next time you run SUDO, type echo $UID"
As per Vic sudo echo $UID is 1000 here also ( as it should be )
echo $UID = 1000
sudo echo $UID =1000
"As Linux lacks so many enterprise-scale features compared to Windows Server"
Strange then that Oracle (spit) seem able to cope - hint : maybe it's not Linux that is lacking
"- Complex Excel spreadsheets (the stuff business decisions are made with if they are to defy any attempt at auditing)"
Whilst I share your skepticism about badly-written spreadsheets I have to say that LO calc be used for extreme spreadsheets - the major difference is the macro languages are different. Recalc. speed used to be slow - it's now very fast
"do you still need to reboot after inserting a PS/2 mouse or keyboard for it to be recognised"
Well I've got an old, old IBM keyboard ( the one with the weight in ) which regularly detaches from its cable due to the unforgiving nature of the cable ( think mooring ships) and on plugging that back in it all works fine without any further actions running OpenSUSE.
Thank you for this ref. It is quite detailed and needs close scrutiny. However ...
Have you actually read it?
Far from supporting exit it gives a considerable number of reasons for staying in as well as for leaving. One quote from it :-
"Part of Rognan wants to join the EU to open up the market, which he says is the ultimate driver of the economy.
Two of the EU’s biggest members, France and Germany, have already warned Britain that it would be denied access to the single market if it did not accept free movement of labour.
The EEA agreement does allow members to restrict movement on the grounds of “public policy, public security or public health”, but only on a temporary basis."
"Since Switzerland is not part of EFTA, they have to negotiate by themselves"
Switzerland is not only a member they were a founding member of EFTA !
"Like Switzerland that well known third world country?"
Switzerland gets rather a mixed deal from the EU, that have to accept migration, payments into the EU funds without representation and ~ 200 other rules/regulations etc.
A rather limited BBC analysis : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35603388 or better : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35615604
And if Scotland splits and joins the EU are we really going to have border controls ? (We don't with Ireland AFAIK)
I'm not sure what the problem is - I've never seen it unless I wildly over commit with multiple user desktops, VMs video and RAW processors. Firefox stays within ~0.3GB-1GB.
But your VM (2GB) usage suggests that you're not using anything like 4+GB for Firefox and very little swap usage too. Free suggests that In fact you still have ~~700MB available . In one of my machines (real) with 2GB memory I'd see something similar with some applications open including FF
"I use Opera (12.16) or Firefox. I have about 20 tabs open. Opera takes 3.7 GB. Firefox takes 4.2 GB with the same tabs."
Suggest you look at the output of free and see how much total memory is actually being used. On this 8GB i7 with lots going on it shows 7.6GB (3.4GB used ignoring buffers and caches) and only 80MB swap used.
The value you are quoting for Firefox sounds like the virtual memory size. If I look at the amount used size for the just top 18 memory 'hogs' using the virtual size it runs to 40GB - showing how useless a measure it is.
"Running just a single browser in Linux tends to eat up 4+ GB of memory, plus whatever services, X and the window manager all use.""
Well I'm running 3 (KDE) desktop users , Firefox, Thunderbird a Virtualbox inst, VLC to a webcam server, VNC to a pi, 5 filemanagers, and several terminals on this i7 laptop that only has 8GB and only 3.4 GB is in actual use - the remainder is cache/buffers - swap is ~80MB
Firefox with 11 tabs open is using ~0.45GB and ~380 processes are showing in the task manager
"That's not our experience and we do a LOT of scientific computing."
" We're not part of Schengen and everyone without an EU passport gets checked."
I've waited in the queue at Calais often enough in the past few years to know that everyone with an EU passport gets checked ( and its taking longer )
"I am finally starting to figure out how to do video properly on Linux, so the timing of this review is perfect."
Use kdenlive - not crashed on me since ~~2007
"In fact, 1GB RAM isn't even sufficient to run a 32bit desktop OS these days - unless you're a masochist."
Well I've had a pi 2 for a few days now and I've never seen more than 400MB used - more if you count caches etc certainly.
I've got a browser with BBC main news page, LibreOffice calc with a 23000 row * 20 col. spreadsheet with all cells occupied with calculations, filemanager, taskmanager, terminal window and synaptic package manager all open on the desktop and and a lightweight webserver running too - memory usage is ~370MB
pi@raspberrypi ~ $ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 948120 933348 14772 82056 24104 539240
-/+ buffers/cache: 370004 578116
Swap: 102396 4 102392
"but I will be compiling a lot of my own C programs"
Just compiled a little C client program (~75 lines) that opens a socket & queries a set of sensors on a PIC microcontroller controlled by a server on my network . Apart from altering the server name to an ip address as the pi doesn't yet have that in hosts the program compiled and ran perfectly
"I wonder if it runs the GIMP?"
It does - it's not something I use a lot but it even runs quite well over VNC. A 1620x1080 unsharp took ~ 3secs BTW
"t really does not get anywhere near what you would need for a proper desktop."
It looks like a proper desktop to me. I've got a web browser, image viewer, full LibreOffice, compilers, VLC, etc - the test spreadsheet suggests the performance is not too shabby but I'll know more in few weeks esp. when I've installed more demanding software. I'd not expect a 4-core 900 MHz ARM with 1GB of memory and an 8GB SD card to be too spritly but I'm really rather suprised. No, I'm not going to render HD video or even process too many RAW photo files but I will be testing it - and no I'm not going to be compiling vlc ( but I don't need to) but I will be compiling a lot of my own C programs so I'll have a reasonably comparison.
"I recently got myself a Raspberry Pi to play with. "
So did I. I'd resisted for quite a while due to time constraints but I order a kit on Monday, it arrived on Wed. and was running an hour later. Today (Fri.) I have it running vncviewer via ssh and I'm impressed. I have a test spreadsheet for LibreOffice calc that recalculates 400000 sines. On my laptop (4-core i7 ) it takes <1 sec - on the pi ~5 secs. I'm still setting it up but wifi was easy, jut need to set it up the way I like and install more sw. I spent ~£65 on the kit but that included SD card, keyboard, mouse, power supply, HDMI and ethernet cables and USB wifi.
Just like you to mis-quote something from 2014. As others have ref. from this year there is no truth in the FUD
"At 0.3c, plug it into the kinetic energy equation"
You are quite correct with the calculation but it's worth noting the relativistic energy is slightly higher even at 0.3c - at higher velocity it will be much higher.
e.g at 0.8c it's ~2.8e18 J
"Back in the 1980s, the solution was proposed to ..... turn it off at the halfway point, and let d"eceleration take over."
Well that shows how well it was thought through !
"I think maybe there are several reasons that Switzerland gets a special seat at the European table"
I think if you read the BBC article you'd find they don't think they have. Our conditions might be even worse - who knows. But if you look at the list of conditions I don't think many of people here would prefer them to our current status.
"Add to that the 'convenience' of their secretive banking system."
No so secretive these days. I have to give my Swiss bank permission to share data with HMRC and that's on a current account.
"I don't think that is what the outers want. They'd want something more like Switzerland's status."
Suggest they might be in for a shock - see today's item on Swiss position
"But most Microsoft holes are not published at all until a patch is available."
Yesterday was the 16th - the date on the new libc is the 16th. My machines only picked-up the patch when roused from sleep today . As MS found a magic way of installing to machines that are off or VMs that aren't actually being used ?
"This is because most Windows vulnerabilities are not published like this before being fixed."
Well as this appeared to be only 'widely known' (1,2) yesterday and where I'm sitting now my Debian, Mint and OpenSUSE 42.1 have all already been patched I don't think we need any lessons in Redmond's way
They're all from 2014 !! and mostly regurges at that This return to Windows never happened - at least my refs were from this year (2016 BTW)
"although Munich has since switchted back, because TCO was more expensive than Windows ISTR."
Care to post a ref. to that ! AFAIK that is nonsense
Latest I could find : http://news.softpedia.com/news/german-city-that-replaced-windows-with-linux-to-ditch-latest-windows-xp-2000-pcs-499160.shtml
"You are holding the epoch wrong!"
I think you mean the iPoch ®
"Newtonian is the law and General Relativity is the theory."
Except GR gives good predictions for observations ( precession of Mercury's orbit, 'bending' of light & effects of gravity on time, .....) that Newtonian laws don't.
"Ah no. They provided strong evidence against the existence of an aether. There is a difference."
Agreed and as Einstein was only ~8 years old at the time of the MM experiment I suspect he'd not really started-in on SR
"the orbit of our moon is causing very strong gravity waves "
The moon is having a measurable effect by gravity on our planet but any gravitation waves produced by the moon are miniscule.
gravity != gravitational waves
"If the gravity of our moon can cause such distortion visible to the naked eye, how come that is not what we measured?"
It would happen twice a day, every day
" but even so 140 hp is one heck of a motor."
I'd imagine it's about high-ish average-ish even in the UK . But more to the point where are they going to get 500 kW of battery power that will get them a reasonable range as well. It's about 5/6 Tesla batteries at ~500kg each for about 1 hrs duration flight ( I know doubtless cruise will be much lower consumption )
"I might be wrong, but if the servers are in the sea there is no need to pump any water anywhere so they save even more energy."
Question is how much would you save compared with the extra costs of engineering for such an environment, maintenance and upgrading.
I'd have thought installing in the base structure of a wind turbine would be a better bet.
"Without a high efficiency energy source"
It's not just got to be efficient it's got to be as low in mass as possible otherwise a lot of that energy will be used just to accelerate the mass of the power source. This true at 'normal velocities' but esp. true near c.
"I wonder just how feasible (and how protective) the Ice Shield which Arthur C Clarke used in The Songs of Distant Earth would be at these speeds."
I've not read the story, but surely it's even more mass to have to accelerate
"The rest of the population died from a telephone virus, as all the telephone sanitisers were in the B Ark."
Ah, yes, I remember now.
"It's only the 'B' Arc colonists that survive, mind!"
I think it was only the 'B' Arc colonists that were actually sent
"As a long time fanboy, and don't care who knows it........."
So, every time we see your distinctive username we'll know you are a fanboy ???
"It a reasonable guess that heavy users of encryption are doing it for a reason - mostly ill."
Well I use ssh connections when traveling to pass files to/from my server ( just another directory on my file manager via fish://) No evil secrets but encrypted regardless due to ssh.
"one not easily measured by the techniques at the disposal of the ancients."
They almost certainly noticed that ships disappeared over the horizon hull first and reappeared mast first. The Greeks esp. would have noticed that as you climb up a mountain tips of other islands appear and as you climb higher you see more of them . All of these are powerful clues to the inquiring mind.
" Thank you for proving my point that no one really needs it to be Linux."
Apart from a few specialist programs that might well be true - it's just that some of us find it a far superior environment. After all I have to go to the 'trouble' of building my own desktops aand servers and hunting out laptops that are OS free and then installing LInux and it's all still worth it for me.
Most people don't need Windows in that to quote LucreLout below "but then, 99% ish of home users aren't doing serious programming; They aren't even building Android fart apps, they're just browsing the web."
(Not my figures and I don't happen to agree either.)
I repeat - why would you want everyone to use Windows ?? What's it to you ?"
"You can't understand the very simple fact - is that Linux Desktop is a collection of incompatible libraries, wildly and poorly designed applications that do not follow any UI concepts and do not work with each other"
As I've used Linux since 1996 I don't need anyone to give me a lesson. I use it all the time for everything both professional and personally - I don't find the problems you seem to think exist - all the applications I use cut & paste fine together - partly because I use the same desktop environment and partly because I make sure I use the best applications for my purposes. I had to seriously try to think of an example that didn't work - and all I could think of was an old vector editor I used until a few years ago when I started using Inkscape.
Do you really imagine having worked all my life in a high-powered scientific environment I'd be wasting my time fiddling with something not fit for purpose. I'm perfectly happy using Linux, so are many other people so basically mind your own.
I repeat - why would you want everyone to use Windows ?? What's it to you ?"
"Thanks, you just proved my point that noone in the real world needs Linux on desktop."
Your view of the real world obviously is at odds with mine.
Apart from the scientific angle I use Linux for everything I do. RAW photo development/editing, video editing, PIC programming (MPLAB works perfectly in WINE) and now there is a Linux version anyway, and all the usual stuff - except I don't use cr*p like Facebook (sob !) but e-mail, browsing, Google Earth, LibreOffice, VirtualBox and lots of other stuff.
In fact I can't understand your problem - why would you want everyone to use Windows ?? What's it to you ?
"Anyone non-IT professional who uses Linux desktop does not really need any desktop at all"
What an extraordinary claim. Almost all the people I know personally who use Linux desktops are NOT IT professionals but are scientists & academics. The reasons are complex but the simplest is that a lot of scientific software was written for UNIX and has been ported to Linux. The subsequent ports have been improved, extended and adapted to newer hardware. The other major reason is the availability of compilers/interpreters for a range of languages as a lot of scientific software is written/adapted by scientists for peer consumption.
If you doubt the existence of commercial software of a highly complex nature for Linux can I suggest :
It's even (mostly) available for Windows these days
" And what is pretty much the whole comments section about?"
Erh, that'd be replies to Post 1 !
"Which is great - IF YOU KNOW THAT AND KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. Which by definition means you're not the people we're talking about."
I hate to point it out to you that that is exactly the point - you don't have to know - why should you !
"This can be achieved simply by keeping a cat ......"
Although you are likely to get long periods of total inactivity interspersed with short burst of frenetic activity ( esp. if you have mice)