Re: @ Chemist
"I would think someone as world-wise as you would know better than to get in front of a two minute hate."
2462 posts • joined 24 Mar 2010
"I would think someone as world-wise as you would know better than to get in front of a two minute hate."
"The CIA found that among a subset of job seekers whose backgrounds raised questions, roughly one out of every five had “significant terrorist and/or hostile intelligence connections,”"
Where does this state that 1 in 5 of ALL applicants have a connection to terrorism ?
"Don't tell me you think that any other OS doesn't have exactly the same issues as MS."
They certainly don't have exactly the same issues - what other OS allows execution of mal-code by merely previewing an e-mail ?
"The vulnerability in Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010, which "can be triggered simply by previewing an email in Outlook, even without explicitly opening the email", obviously needs to be patched as soon as possible. The Internet Explorer fixes also need to be rushed through."
"but is it really necessary to make all the UK passport holders wait through that process"
We came back via Calais a couple of weeks ago, the queue was far longer than normal, each car was taking 90-180 seconds and only 3 points were manned. Because the checks take place in France and before the ferry check-in any delay can cause a missed ferry even when arriving, in this case, with an hour to spare.
(This was, as usual, the ONLY passport check on the trip UK->France->Switzerland->Italy->Switzerland->France->UK)
"Its not about the phones its about Nokia's patents"
AFAIK MS have only licensed the patents NOT bought them.
"I will have to assume no such source exists and thus your statements are merely opinion."
I'm fairly sure that such sources might exist but only on Vogsphere
"YES Windows 8.1 is finished YES Windows 8.1 is finished "
By the way :-
Microsoft refuses to release study challenging Munich Linux success
"I would struggle to see how a Windows deployment would be cheaper than a Linux installment," said Roy Illsley, principal analyst at Ovum, who added that he couldn't imagine why Microsoft wouldn't release a study that actually proved that Microsoft is cheaper than Linux. "I would suspect that they read it and they suspected that there are some errors in there," he said.
"They tried that in Munich and it has been an unmitigated disaster, that cost tens of millions in investment from IBM, etc. that will never be recovered."
"Can you explain how I can update COTS software from a repo?"
I'd hope the vendor would provide a repo. as Google does for GoogleEarth.
I suggest that you are now picking Pediculus humanus capitis
"No, linux updates all applications which come from a repo."
It is however possible, indeed normal, to have a number of repositories, I have all the OpenSUSE for my version +packman. A little care is needed when installing certain applications ( for example kdenlive needs the programs/libraries melt, mlt, ffmpeg and vlc to be from the same repo.) to get all the necessary helper programs from the same repo but otherwise as stated all software will be updated automatically, semi-automatically or not at all depending on the user's wishes.
Good luck with your decision John, try a few live CDs first
"So...what DO you do with your PC...just so we know? CAN you do anything worth the effort?"
Edit 1080p/50 video
Edit RAW photos
Generate panoramic photos
Scan/print in colour & B&W
Program in a considerable number of languages
Layout & design PCBs
Program PIC microcontrollers
Access my other (remote) machines by ssh/fish/rdp
Run a file/odds&sods server and a Samba server for the wife's Nexus 7 & phone
Run considerable amounts of scientific software including hardware 3D modeling
+ all the usual wp/spreadsheets/browsing/video watching/GoogleEarth/Skype/e-mail
More to the point there isn't anything that I want to do that I can't.
"erm, you realise that most Linux distributions have far MORE vulnerabilities than Windows XP?"
So you KEEP telling us. Makes no difference to me I wouldn't use MS OSs if you offered me a free trip to Vogsphere. Guess I'll just have to be careful
(You might actually learn something if you analysed the levels of severity of these 'vulnerabilities' )
"Try kdenlive, fantastic software with a terrible name."
"Erm, GIMP is not a direct functional replacement for Photoshop. "
I know several professional photographers who use Linux, but they don't just use Gimp. There are a number of RAW photo conversion/editing/tweeking programs that are available.
Personally I do as little to a RAW photo as possible maybe resize/tweek exposure/tweek the curves/ unsharp/save in appropriate format usually.
Agree. I installed OpenSUSE 12.3 recently on a new dual-core Intel system and it took less than 20 mins.
"Where's the Linux support? Where's the Free BSD support? Those markets are just too small to justify supporting them."
Well I know what you means, but Nvidia provide drivers for Linux, Google provides Google Earth for Linux, Firefox, Opera .......
"It isn't working though. WP sales are growing at 70% year on year, and are about to break through 10% market share in the UK...."
Do you know I've heard exactly that MANY times from some AC who posts here
"Unless you want to run business software or play games. Or do CAD. Or a load of other things."
All the more reason to explore the alternatives now before MS really let you down or turn the screw !
I've often wondered how insecure some Windows' users are that they seem obsessed by attacking, usually quite inaccurately, an OS that apparently only 1% of desktop users use. Maybe a little paranoia, a feeling of uncertainty. ?
""it's not MS / it is free" pseudo-religious aspect"
Nothing of the sort - I've been using MS software since the days of single-board computers with 6502 8-bit BASIC ( and even that had an infuriating bug ), DOS, Windows from the start upto W2000 and it's always been mediocre , and the company has always been trying to tie it's customers into its ecosystem. Fair enough if that's what you want to do or don't know any better.
I started using Linux about 1994-5 and even though there were plenty of limitations early on the system was clearly far superior for what I wanted.
As a scientist I've mainly used PDP-11s, VAX , alphas, SGIs and then big Linux workstations and compute farms - WIndows had no place in that except for the usual corporate guff of Exchange/Word. ( Excel was never powerful enough or indeed capable of handling the dataset sizes needed for our research work )
"(1) Since I buy "complete kit" from Dell/Lenovo/HP etc. since more than a decade instead of self-assemble the Windows is "no extra cost" for all practical purposes"
The 'cost' is that you buy into and reinforce a monopoly and one that has shown itself to have only one interest - itself. People here are always going on about not wanting even a duopoly in mobile and yet de facto is a desktop monopoly (an arrogant and increasingly irrelevant one)
"Existing hardware does not run or only with certain distribution/kernel combinations"
The usual solution is to try a live Linux distribution to SEE if all your hardware works - it usually will.
"no higher cost "industrial solutions""
All my stuff is consumer grade, cheap Samsung laser, cheap Brother laser, old Epson laser cheapest Epson scanner/printer, the only 'special' I bought was a new Nvidia card so I could use hardware video acceleration for playing back 1080/50p H264 video without using all the processor and that was only £50.
"Software for i.e my DSLR is Win only"
Guess what - I have 2 DSLRs Canon 300D and 550D and I don't use Windows. There are plenty of RAW processing programs for Linux. Occasionally if you buy a very new camera as I did with the 550D it takes a little whole for the programs to catch-up - 2 weeks in the case of the 550D.
The situation you raise with unsupported hardware is not one I have experienced.
I've had 3 laser printers, 1 inkjet, 1 scanner/printer, accelerated graphics card, 3G dongle, serial/USB converter, PIC programmer, 4 cameras, 2 video cameras, 6 webcams/notebook cams, USB telephony headset. Even the HDTV will work as a dual-monitor setup with the laptops/netbook
This with OpenSUSE 12.3 or earlier
That wasn't really the point. I was trying to show that that downloading or compiling a program in a user space wasn't a very subtle way of introducing a malicious program
By the way even if I was as rich as Gates I wouldn't even contemplate using Windows.
"I tried it in Chromium just now"
It certainly wouldn't in Firefox !
"You can install software on Linux without the admin password"
Well of course you can, you can also compile your own and run it from within your own account - but you can't readily allow global execution. Neither of these is a subtle introduction of malicious code to a machine
"I do not know any Linux desktop users who have any money to steal."
Well I'm sitting here in my Swiss apartment reading this on my Linux desktop, with a Linux netbook nearby and connected by fish: to my Linux server in UK. When we go home I'll process my holiday videos/photos on one of the Linux workstations and then go on holiday again in our motorhome . Rich ? not by Gates' standard but pretty well off after a lifetimes work and saving and investment.
Linux by choice - it does all that I want
How are holidays on Vogsphere ?
"The initial phase of the project simulated the cortex of a cat brain on an IBM BlueGene massively parallel supercomputer with 147,456 cores and 144TB of memory developing the basic synaptic circuits for the brain chip. ®"
After immense amounts of 'thinking' about going out or eating the compu-cat decided to wash its bum instead
"I'm assuming here your bank doesn't force JRE down your throat then?"
Have you got an example - I've never found one. ( 3 banks, 2 building socs, 1 credit card company)
"You really can't take a straw Dalek seriously"
"Indeed - a lot of the time my workstation is like that, then again a lot of the time it spends with a load way over 7"
Agreed, I'm rendering 1080p/50 video in H.264 and both cores are running melt @ ~70% cpu whilst letting me browse this forum smoothly. If I had more cores available I'd be transcoding already rendered video to 720p/25 for playback on a laptop and if I had more I'd be setting up another editing session by generating proxy clips.
"These non desktop solutions are not computers in the desktop sense"
Can't help but agree with that ! ( must be equivalent to a NULL statement )
"That I wear my pants inside out to get an extra days wear out of them?"
Save water - use recursion !
"The companies are aligning their engineering, technical, and testing teams to harden Linux and Windows as part of the re-upped deal."
You seem to have missed this bit !
I want an arrow and "Mostly Harmless"
"on the SharePoint servers that NSA Hawaii needed,""
They really deserve their hardship pay !
"trying to do the same on an old Dell laptop"
always try a Live CD if installing on 'new' hardware. That should show up any major problems ( if any)
"Anyone who says the current state of graphical environments on Linux is good, is full of crap and preaching from the open source bible. X-windows sucks at dealing with monitors dynamically - especially multi-monitor,"
Thank you for joining today to post this but I happen to have different experiences. Plug a monitor into my laptop or netbook and it's recognised and I can use it as a second monitor or display on both. No fuss -it just works.
This on OpenSuse 12.3
"Linux Graphics... is rubbish "
I didn't know that - here's me spent years building protein structures and manipulating thousands of atoms in stereo 3D and all the time it was rubbish. Same with editing 1080p/50 video and playing back the same with hardware acceleration - all rubbish -I'm shocked. Next time I convert RAW DSLR photos I must remember that it's all rubbish I'm experiencing
I think those of us who only use Linux for everything don't have the problem.
"There is binary blobs in the kernel "
Care to enumerate.
"Dogbert's Mission Statement Generator"
I ACTUALLY worked in a department in a company that believed ( the company that is) in dept. mission statements. The Dept. ( a VERY cynical bunch) generated their's by Dogbert's excellent site and either nobody noticed or nobody dared notice in the suits dept.
"“We will pull together disparate engineering efforts today into a coherent set of high-value activities,”"
Dogbert's Mission Statement Generator