Re: Can of worms...
>> Final question, are they insane?
No, they are engaged in a white-wash PR campaign of biblical proportions.
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>> Final question, are they insane?
No, they are engaged in a white-wash PR campaign of biblical proportions.
At the time they both entered an arms race of implementing incompatible features.
And at a later time Netscape had a very unstable browser that it eventually stopped loading pages for no other because it was feeling moody, while IE always seemed responsive and did not stop loading.
However it was MS who decided to turn their horrible-insecure-by-design browser into part of the OS, shove it down the throats of a mostly unsuspecting public who doesn't knew better at the time, and give it for free to further screw the competition.
And then holding the market captive for 10 years.
And no, if MS includes a new browser in Windows 10, IE is not going anywhere.
IE will still be there... forever, like most of MS's old shit that can be found all over the place in windows, or just think a copy of mshtml.dll is not going to be shipped with Windows 10? or Shdocvw.dll or WinInet.dll for that matter??? (Good luck using pop3 in outlook without those btw, ((Yes, it is that intermixed)))
MS is embarked on a whitewash marketing campaign, they are still the 96%-95% percent market dominance, in no danger of any immediate problem, however they have lots and lots of cash, they are aware they have an image problem, and they are going step by step on a long check-list trying to correct that, just in case one day they get competition and hey lose 1% of business based on a reputation issue.
MS hasn't changed an inch because Nadella is the visible head. And no that petty whitewash .NET open sourcing exercise is not proper open source no matter how you look at it, LGPL, GPL, MIT or Apache or no cigar.
In my experience it is the other way around.
It is the anti-systemd crowd who has become hysterical.
In my experience the majority of the anti-crowd people is just repeating things they hear like screaming parrots.
No one is forcing anything on anybody, if you do not like it that much do not use it, or write your own, I'm sure you will do a great job and people will adopt it.
Please stop with the FUD
RH is not forcing anything on anybody. Distro developers are adopting it because they see value on it.
Is it perfect no it is not, does it have problems, yes it does, does it solve a problem? yes, a very complex one no one has stepped in to solve.
I bet you're one of those who complain about Linux lack of coherence or fragmentation.
Short history it doesn't work like in Windows.
Linux sees the drivers as loadable modules, the modules can be either made built-in (Useful for environments where your hardware does not change) or they can be made loadable upon boot.
When made loadable upon boot it is called a loadable kernel module, and they are files that live on your HD, plug in a device and they get loaded automatically as in the case of USB stuff, or upon booting in the case of a NIC.
Drivers in Linux are not "standalone" drivers for "standalone" hardware, most of the time they belong to what is called a "Driver family", this is a single driver supports multiple devices.
For example if two different network cards from two different vendors use the same chipset, the same driver will be used with both. This saves a lot of disk space and code work.
Usually the kernel and the drivers all come in the same package, this is because as they are modules they are intrinsically dependent on the kernel structures and headers.
To get support for a newer piece of hardware you can either get the source of a module and compile it yourself or wait until the next kernel version to come with the module already integrated.
And no, compiling stuff in Linux (building a kernel or a module) is not the chore most people with little Linux exposure think it is.
There is a learning curve like with everything, I do not know anyone who has mastered anything complex in Windows out of thin air.
Steadily unstoppable snowballing.
And before people think its becoming bloated, the majority of the increase in code is in the drivers, new and better drivers get added all the time on each new release.
If only someone at the time of the Romans had made a blog about Roman concrete mixing...
In the future, (if political correctness hasn't busted civilization yet) historians will find your post amusing.
"""Microsoft's application deployment, configuration, installation and patching technologies are generally well ahead of what is available on Linux"""
BS, do not make us laugh.
"""Microsoft is working to get Windows 10 working on devices with just 512MB RAM, including the Lumia 520."""
"""Just one catch: small memory means sacrifice and some Windows 10 features will be cut out to make the forthcoming OS run on the phones."""
That a single-user embedded device requires more RAM than 512MB is something I still still have a problem getting used to.
Note, this is not a complain against Microsoft, just the industry in general.
"""ARM up to atom-level CPU strength."""
Yes, and the PCI bus enumeration is going to happen how exactly?
I do not see anybody in the ARM space rushing to develop such PC-Like boards any time soon without proper supporting chipsets.
PowerPC boards failed miserably because the available chipsets were rubbish.
ARM SOCs are nothing like what people understand as a PC.
WinCE is not windows, at least not what 99% of the population understands for "Windows".
The companies using WinCE like you say do it because of legacy products/reasons.
If it can not run Windows x86 commercial software windows is barely of no use to barely anybody.
PR, like most MS articles/moves lately.
The difference between Ballmer and Nadella is quite clear to me:
This is Nadella:
And this is Ballmer:
The differences are remarkable, how much they do not look alike, one wears glasses and has some kind of "gay modern smile" while the other is white, bald and looks like "Fred Flintstone"
Yes, MS is going to change so much in the next few years...
I'm shocked that a company as large as VMWare, with as many resources as VMWare, with as many clever people as VMWare, and with as much money as VMWare:
Can not write a decent multi-platform client for its management console using QT4/5.
And I'm even more shocked that they went from .NOT to Adobe Air.
"""people like David Cameron who don’t like encryption"""
Who do not understand what encryption is for
Who do not like you having any freedom they will not deny themselves.
"It is all for your own good, so we do not have to profile, and be warmz and fuzzy, and feel good."
I have said it many times, this Politically Correct shit will kill us all.
"""Just issued an enterprise-wide uninstall of this pile of crap."""
Dear entrope, Surely you did not do it to the vSphere servers didn't you?
"""With the Windows for IoT developer program we're bringing our leading development tools, services and ecosystem to the Raspberry Pi community!"""
What ecosystem exactly? Last time I checked the only reason for running windows is to run windows applications, which on ARM... are exactly which ones?
Is people going to run .net on the Pi? the Pi is freaking low spec, Windows (RT or not) its a monster in comparison.
Was fun the first 2-3 hours, it became boring and repetitive very quickly.
I hope this one is better on that regard.
I have always found it very reliable.
It is perhaps too big and the licensing not cheap, but it is definetively a product I have no problem working with.
MS Fix imap support in your products!
Who decided to rebuild its vSphere management application using Flash.
Kudos to you, Linux takes some time, but once you reach the top of the learning curve there is no going back. And you feel in control of your IT life.
The FOSS world keeps getting better and better all the time.
Windows is now that large piece of annoyance that lives on a VM for those rare moments when its needed.
In my country there is a saying:
"You're even more useless than the windows help centre"
I shall not tell what they say about MS support, too strong for the young members of the audience.
The bottom line is that the bug was inadvertently patched 2 years ago, but that because it wasn't listed as a security patch, it didn't get back-ported.
Patches have been already released for most major distros, vast majority of set-ups not vulnerable, nothing to see here move-along.
Of course old crud may remain vulnerable, like... always.
Nope, it is not going to be hard to fix, at all.
Last time I used an Android phone I do not remember having to run an application, leaving it, run another, and then find the program group where it minimized.
I have used Winphones, Iphones and Androphones, and the only ones who let you change stuff you do not like are the Androphones.
I think that you like the simplicity of modern Winphones, they are ok if you do not do much with the phone.
>> Competition is such a bit, eh? International calls were a pure profit market kept up by the lack of competition.
>> The carriers managed to keep the illusion going while all the same adopting the same VoIP technology they decried.
Look I'm not defending the telcos here, I'm with you denouncing their blatant abuse, which incidentally acted as the motivation for creating & using Skype in the first place.
The issue is not whether you or I like or not what MS is doing, or if we like or not the telcos, the point is that MS & Skype represent an existential threat to the telcos, which are not going to sit idle, and have way more power and influence than MS.
Microsoft has a history and a reputation of putting their interest first and partners last, and a taste for crushing whoever they have to crush. They may be clumsy on the execution but they are relentless, I'm sure I do not have to give more examples.
So I think the Skype integration is not going to be that great if MS wants to sell any MS phones "at all".
"""Some theories suggested that Microsoft didn't want to antagonize its carrier customers by bundling Skype so closely with the handset."""
The Carriers have been antagonized a lot already; Elop during his tenure at Nokia fired many sales staff and forced others to leave, replacing the most competent and experienced carrier relations management experts with the bullies from Microsoft.
The issue with carrier relations and retail got so bad, that every time there was a credit ratings downgrade of Nokia, the bad relationship with the carried was always cited as the reason by the rating agencies.
"Skype is coming no matter what, but maybe we can do something creative that generates incremental revenue for you"
Skype is an existential threat to the telecoms carrier community. Not a profitability threat like BBM or Whatsapp.
A completely Skype-integrated platform destroys the carriers' profit without generating any money whatsoever for neither MS or the carriers.
Skype never made any money all by itself, it only got cash from investors, the amount of people that bought Skype calls was minimal compared to the total user-base, but in exchange it killed both international calls and video-conferencing markets.
The telecoms industry is 4 times as large as the computer industry, it is of the few very large industries that is experiencing good growth everywhere.
Does anybody think the carriers will tolerate without a bloody fight that MS destroys their industry for the sake of selling handsets to further cement their Server/Desktop monopoly in business?
We live in interesting times.
But one thing is certain, MS growth is always at the expense (Destruction) of somebody else, the lack of room in the IT market to grow, and its voracity is leading MS to spread everywhere, and at some point somebody is going to say enough is enough.
>> how the hell is Joe Admin supposed to cope?
Joe admin should consider spending time learning other non-MS OS.
"""So would a system that was last end-to-end tested half a century ago, with all the subsequent innovation, upgrades, redesigns, changes and cost-cutting have any realistic chance of working? I can't see much hope for it - but I hope nobody reads this and decides to try it out."""
The engineering and science bits resound yes.
Any modern IT system introduced in the last 30 years not so.
"For three decades, Microsoft has responded to competitive pressure by panicking, and then Doing Something Stupid."
"""This... is about the most perfect explanation I have ever heard for the entire history of that company."""
I do not think so, how can it be explained then their massive over-influence over the rest of the industry?
All those stupid decisions led to +90% market dominancein the PC space, and if it wasn't for the Free Unixes its control over the IT industry would have been 200%
From the sceptic department.
"""It's hard to judge from photos, the minecraft and skype pick"""
No it is not, what bothers me with these images is that they are way too "perfect", they show two very specific simplistic situations that adapt to the technology and not the other way around.
It is very easy to create lab impressive demonstrations, producing the same with day-to-day gear is a whole different matter.
Also this being Microsoft will not end being what it should be because it will not be open enough so people can hack on it and produce the killer open standards and major refinements that this will require to work in the real world beyond the gimmick of a tightly controlled demo.
Which looks suspiciously like the Steam client...
"""As we've written here before, offering free products in today’s climate of low-price but fully functioning devices is the way to grow market share."""
Grow market share where?
They control +90% of the Desktop PC market, (which is supposed to be in decline, that's another history), a very lucrative one as they charge companies twice or trice in CALs.
So MS plan is:
Create unified platform called Win10
Somehow sacrifice the cost of the OS license for consumers as a temporary measure, because it will make those adopt Win 10 in droves.
As user adoption of Win10 in the desktop increases the pool of users who can deploy applications from the MS store, that will attract developers, who in turn will have it super easy to convert Win10 apps to multiple devices.
Well good luck MS :-D
"""Windows 7 doesn’t work with Microsoft app-store apps."""
If only MS had the source code of Windows...
Known for their main defining characteristics:
a) They do not want to dominate a market, they want to own it all and crush the competition until they are driven to extinction. Their aim is to control the market.
b) Get into a partnership with them and they're the only ones to reap the benefits, VERY high risk of the partner being destroyed.
c) Too big, too many projects they do not care about, they wake up one day and decide they do not like the product you have spend the last few years working with, and you're screwed (IE: VB, Silverlight, Flight Simulator, XNA, etc)
d) Limitless arrogance, MS telling the telcos they had to share their piece of the cake or else Skype will kill them was one of those Godfather's moments MS is famous for.
e) A liking for dirtiness when planing ahead (IE: Their vapour-ware tactics during the late 90's, ISO OOXML fiasco, Sabotaging DR-DOS, the whole Internet Explorer saga to try to stop browser applications, the recent PR whitewash with Linux, The Android patent extortion, the SCO affair.)
I'm betting that Windows 10 is "The best Windows Ever" and you should pay them lots, adopt all their lock-in technologies and love how much they love Linux now.
The first few seasons at last, the Vampires episode (The one with the sunflower seeds) was absolutely terrific.
Then the show derived more and more into nonsense, and suddenly "Fox Mulder" whose bigger characteristic was being extremely intelligent was turned into an idiot because the script needed him to be.
I stopped watching the show when the first movie was released (a huge disappointment at the time).
DOH!, Clearly I wasn't paying any attention to the article.
What always gets my attention about the Steam client in Linux, its not so much that it has lots and lots of scripts (and obviously this amounts to bugs like this one), it is the fact that it does not use the package system for updates, only uses it for bootstrapping the install.
SteamOS was still in beta isn't?
So, while unfortunate as this is (someone got his drives completely wiped of his user accessible data) and the person who wrote the script should know a bit better, in the end you're not supposed to run beta stuff on your production data.
For a long time now Windows for me is that 10GB File thing I run on a KVM or Virtualbox VM when I need access to something weird or test stuff for a customer. (KVM Base images are awesome for spawning windows servers for testing purposes)
Since Steam came out for Linux I got rid of the Windows partition. Even Wine is good enough now to run some Windows programs if the need comes, that is happening less and less.
There is nothing I can not do from a Linux desktop now.
The winner of Friday's pint!
"""Apps crashing, refusing to update apps because of "low memory"."""
Note I'm not defending Android here.
If you take away the concept of storage & file system from any modern multi-purpose computer system, and make the OS assume all sort of things as to what it its that the end user wants to do with the device, you end with these problems.
Add those concepts back and the wife struggles to understand the concept of backing up the device, removing old pictures and videos and cleaning the logs of Whatsarse, and she will complain that she doesn't have to study IT to be able to use the mobile phone.
People is lazy and they want all the benefits with none of the work.
Having said that, Android sucks, but it sucks less because it lets me do with the phone what I want, sucking less just means that, not that it is good, I find appalling that it comes with almost no search capabilities at all, and no, the google search APP does not count.
The reality is that it is us westeners pushing all those "international" stuff.
The web & the internet was built in English by English-Speaking people in English-Speaking institutions.
The rest of the world made a free will decission to embrace it, those are all facts, always keep them in mind.
Everybody forgets that in keeping domain and user names in a single language with a limited character set, allows for universality of its understanding. English is dead easy to learn compared to Cantonese for example.
My name when written properly contains characters not available in the standard character set accepted by email systems, and I never thought that as a problem but as a blessing, as expecting an English, Chinese or Indian person to know the distinction between á, a, à, ä, or ã is plain stupid. The most important thing is to get my email, because I care about the contents of the message, and those can be written in my native sensibilities!
I'm sorry if I'm not up to modern cultural sensibilities, but all of this push for more TLDs and more international crap is just a con from some people who do not know what to invent, to make/start another economic frenzy, and they remember the recent boom of the internet and thought: "Remember the good old times when people were registering millions of domains?" "yes, how can we make this happen again?"
Do not believe me? There has been a lot of capital investment in registrars in the last 10 years, the people behind such investments are of the opinion that a registrar is a money printing machine, and they want to print as much as they can. I do not blame them for that, but lets not lose the north completely shall we?
My friend, I wish you never find yourself without electricity for a long period of time.
Awesome, I will make my Workstation growl when my manager is close nearby.
1) They are selling a product people do not need.
2) At a very high price. $7-$10 vs $20-$50, to $100.000s+
3) People are used to .com/.net/.org, they are well known.
4) You can do whatever.thing.i.want.com and it has proven that people do not remember it, why do they think cocacola.com is worse than refreshing.drink.cocacola or softdrink.cocacola, or was it drink.coke, or cola.coke...? I'm confused, let's Google it.
Yes, the DNS industry has a problem and it is not a PR one, they thought this little scheme of theirs will bring them riches, and they're hurt no one cares.
Just like what they did with the Kickstarter and the single player mode!
Note: They sold the Kickstarter on having the offline mode in the game, and then yanked it at the last minute, and got away with it.
El reg recommends movies sometimes too...
"""One of the reasons to use hardware RAID with a proper HBA is the option of a battery-backed cache, which will save you and your data in situations ZFS will simply barf and die"""
It is the other way around, ZFS transactional-atomic nature guarantees that in case of crash or hardware failure the FS will be 100% consistent with no data loss, and that is why it requires RAW access to the disk.
If you have a pysical raid and one disk fails the raid card will mark the drive as failed and deny ZFS access to it. ZFS can not then recover the information in the sane bits of the drive leading to losing the entire array.
ZFS uses lots of RAM, there is never been misinformation about it, it is also clear why, it uses lots and lots of RAM for internal redundancy, and advanced features like de-dup and realtime compression.
Another point in mind is that I would use ZFS on storage nodes, where I would not be running any applications, because storage is the purpose of the system.
None of this means that you can not use a physical RAID controller, I'm not saying ZFS is the solution for every and all situations, just trying to explain where ZFS is practical.