887 posts • joined Tuesday 23rd March 2010 13:35 GMT
1. There are many permissions a developer can use, not a couple.
2. The descriptions shown to users are quite detailed, not vague.
3. If the developer wants to access things you don't want them to, you know about it and can refuse the update/install.
4. Android haters always lose.
If you want to know what your apps have access to, even before you install them, choose Android.
"never had a sync fail"
As an Android user, I've never had to sync. I win.
Re: android syncs across devices?
Even when it's seamless, there are a few things Google doesn't do well. Eg. If you have 2 or more calendars then an invite in Gmail will still become an appointment in your default calendar. I tried in Android (2.3) to send 2 photos from a cloud gallery in a single email, either as links or attachments. Only one can be done.
Re: Let me get this straight...
This tablet is old anyway. They should ship them to Blighty and flog them off for £100 each, then move on. I'll take 2.
Re: At least this time the haters can't accuse Apple of doing this
People don't hate without a reason. Patent trolls like apple give them a reason.
And, in the lame defence used by itards when it's their cultmasters doing the trolling "it's the system which is at fault, FORCING companies to protect their inventions". So have pity on poor little EMG, just doing their legal obligations to their shareholders and not at all being nasty.
Synctube had a product in 2009. These guys had a pitch in 2011.
Re: Long sentence incoming....
I'm on 2.3.5. Tell my why I'm missing out.
That button you mention is already in Android. It uses "intents" so that any app can be set up as a handler of various sharing methods or other actions. So sharing a URL to twitter, facebook, pinterest, friends reunited etc is nothing new to Android users, but we can choose which ones are in the list by installing only the apps we want. In addition, Facebook calendar events are already imported into my calendar and recent status updates appear in my contacts list. Well done for "innovating", apple!
Re: Sorry, can't talk right now...
That's good to see. It seems to be the only "new" feature which google/android doesn't already have, and I'd be mighty peeved if Apple were able to stop anyone "copying" it after nicking so much for themselves.
Re: Google have done it again!
Re: Only us geeks care about OS versions
"perfectly accepting that every other phone out there stays with the software it was purchased with"
Not true. With a pc, you can run a 10 year old OS and have a week-old browser, email client, calendar, office suite, etc. It's the same with Android - the main apps get updated on top of the OS and you can use non-stock versions of core apps if you like, setting them to be the default app to handle their given tasks. Being on a 2 year old version of the OS means nothing; your apps can still use the ICS themes and activity bar even!
Re: Another "new" Apple innovation?
It's sad to see them putting so much effort into integrating 2 social networks, and then thinking that it's such a big deal they need to make it part of a keynote speech. Android was designed better (from an app developer/user point of view at least) so all social networks yet to be invented are already integrated into it and we can remove the integration of existing ones just by uninstalling the app. From a marketing point of view it's a bad design though, because when things truly do Just Work there's nothing to talk about.
Re: Has the writer even looked at Google Play ?
If he has, he didn't notice the "you installed this, you might also like these" section which, apparently "only amazon can offer". Google doesn't need to mine the increasingly popular Google+ (it overtook pinterest last week) because it already has the review and rating section built into the Play store. So I can only imagine G+ was mentioned out of ignorance and/or in order to have a dig at it. It's not relevant to the story and it's growing, not "a dearth of activity" so I can't write off ignorance.
Re: Given that the killer application on these things is surely Skype
You don't need skype when you have google talk and hangouts. They work on android and from any browser, so even if your granddaughter is stuck with a mac she can still videochat with you.
In many ways, the old guard did see the future. And they were killed by microsoft, which didn't see the future. Without MS disrupting things we'd have been here years ago.
Re: Yeh, but Google Docs isn't for collaboration
Yes, the attachment is dead. But just because that's true it doesn't mean that what killed the attachment is not good for anything else.
If you have a friend, try editing the same google document at the same time. You'll see that google docs definitely is for collaboration. But just because it's for collaboration, that doesn't mean you have the email the document as an attachment. The attachment is still dead.
Re: I don't know how the author could have missed the fact
@Linzello, I worked for a company which did the "data and resources somewhere else" thing in 2002 or earlier. They used an oracle database but I'm not sure they changed their marketing to include the word "cloud". The word was definitely around (an not just in the sense of fluffy sky monsters) but "hosted environment," "data centre" and SAAS were more common terms. If they hadn't gone bust a few years later (gosh, a company who saw the future but still went under!) they'd be using the word cloud now, and you'd think it was all new.
Re: Yup - £900 is too much
I got a full spec laptop with DVD player a year ago for £320, a tablet recently (with keyboard) for £400 and have an old linux netbook which cost under £200. I get far more out of that lot than I could ever get from an ultrabook for the same money.
Re: with the cash they have
I doubt RIM would be the best option because they target business users who might not like all their data being sucked into facebook. Maybe the mobile business of LG or a more minor player would work though. It makes more sense than buying Instagram.
Re: Web site apps
http://m. is a bad solution, but it's better than redirecting to the mobile homepage and leaving your mobile visitors to try to navigate to the page they were linked to, which some sites still do. The best solution is to have the site redraw itself based on the device accessing the page; Wordpress is a good example. The Reg feeds all point to the desktop site, which is a pain when using Google Reader on a phone.
That's not space
how big is a 60 pixel touch area on a 7" tablet with a laptop-beating "screen space" of 3600*2400px?
Re: Get creative...
Wave was excellent and a lot of the tech they created is now in other products, eg. multiple simultaneous editors in Docs. What I don't understand about Wave is how it gets called a Social product when it was a combination of email, blog, docs, forum, messenger etc. If that's the qualification to be a social product then GMail, Blogger, Youtube and Google Talk would be social products too (and so would the old Reader), but all we hear about are google's social failures and never its successes.
Re: not helped by Googles piss poor software and UI
What if the UI looked more like this?
Product not forced on people in "product forced on people in flopping shock" shock.
Wesley doesn't understand youtube or G+. Before the change you needed to log in to youtube in order to rate a video. Now that youtube and its ratings are being incorporated into G+, you...need to log in to youtube in order to rate a video. Youtube users are now part of G+ but they are not forced to visit plus.google.com EVER and Youtube handles are kept separate from G+ profiles. It's like how on facebook you might be "forced" to log in in order to rate a video. But facebook would count you as a user. Youtube's hundreds of millions of user accounts don't appear in the G+ user stats.
The fragmentation issue is basically a myth and they already have a music service.
As a G+ user I don't see it dying, or even slowing down. Extending G+ to be a login and commenting system like Discus and Facebook is a natural course for them, which will gather even more social data.
I hope they can be sued for negligence. They ought to be.
They could make facetime and imessenger available to non-apple customers and it could on;y improve the experience for apple's own customers; they would be able to talk to normal people without going to google or installing skype etc.
Re: This is gonna get ugly
binged googled "regular expressions" on bing (the "old" bing) and the 4th result is a load of videos. I googled it on google and got no videos on the first page. But there are links in the sidebar to search videos, images, pages from a certain year etc. Basically, google is better for the term you used.
Re: True enough.
"There is no Google alternative to it or iTunes."
Except for Google Play. And if you're looking at Android alternatives then there's Amazon's offering and loads of content services installed as standard by individual OEMs. The problem Android has, despite being the biggest mobile OS out there, is lack of awareness. Once people learn that pre-2009 phones can just about run ICS and that you can get books, movies, music and more from many sources, there will be no stopping it.
Re: Good to know
After going to the site I'd have to be on Google's side on that one. They even use Google's fonts and colours.
Re: Size isn't everything
Buy normal trousers and you'll have no problem with size. Mine is nice and big (judging by your complaint I'd guess it's bigger than yours) but is small enough to turn sideways in my pocket, making it tricky to take out. Another inch or so would be just right.
Apple knows its customer base well. That's why both products have the same name, they didn't advertise the new specification and you're not allowed to know what you've got until after you go to the Apple store, flash your credit card and ask "can I have some ipad please?"
And you can't use the old thumb icons if you're not logged in. Youtube uses handles instead of real names, even for G+ users, and a G+ profile does not have to be searchable. So really there's no change here except that you apparently can't downvote a video any more. Oh, and the buttons which previously existed to let you...errr FORCE YOU...to share on Facebook and Twitter after thumbing something on Youtube were not shown in the screengrab the ageing Ensign posted.
Re: So it's not about apps which can access DropBox?
If you don't have a Dropbox account then you need to sign up for one before you can use the app. Some developers which no clue at all about creating a beautiful user experience have been linking directly from the app to a Dropbox account-creation page (or the SDK does it for them) where users may be conned into paying money to a company other than Apple. To improve the experience for its livestock, Apple has decided that it would be better if they leave the app, navigate to the appropriate page in Safari, create an account and return to the app. Nobody else in the world employs designers, so they didn't think of doing it that way.
Your hotmail account also syncs with all your devices (though you can also set one or more devices not to sync with the others). Google drive has a phone app too.
But the bigger point of Google Drive, which is unique AFAIK, is that web apps can use your gdrive to store data you create and edit on other websites. It's all sandboxed, naturally.
Re: Apple probably has prior art
Given that 1999 is more recent than 1997, when the invention was in use, I'd say they'd need some pretty clever lawyers to get that through as prior art.
Re: Not strictly speaking a patent troll
Doesn't it make more sense to describe someone as a patent troll if their only use of their patent is in extracting rents from other inventors? If he was using it then it's reasonable to grant him a temporary monopoly for the work he's done, but if he's not using it and someone else invents something similar with no reference to his designs then it would be reasonable for them to be allowed to continue with their own product.
Re: In mouse based computing world
In Apple's "bounceback" patent (when you scroll to the top of a list and keep scrolling, the list initially moves with your finger but bounces back) they came within a gnat's tadger of saying that it was obvious something like this was needed to show the user they were at the top of a list, and that bounceback was the most obvious way of doing it. They still got a patent on it though.
Re: Apple bitten.
Robert, read the article.
He didn't have the patent 8 years ago and it's not for the sort of thing which touch screens on estate agent windows do. He alerted Apple in 2007 about his work and can sue whenever he likes.
Re: What does it matter what its made of
Omega's been using it for a while on its Planet Ocean range. If the advert is anything to go by, the iphone will retain its striking appearance indefinitely and you'll need an 8000 Watt laser ray to engrave your name on the back.
But it also suggests the next iphone ads will be even worse than the last ones, and note that Omega hiked its prices a heck of a lot in the last few years!