1177 posts • joined 23 Mar 2010
This makes smart TV redundant, not the other way round. For content providers they just need to add some code to their website instead of making apps for all the different smart TV providers. For consumers the remote control is your phone or laptop, so typing and menu selection is a much less painful experience. This also benefits providers because it makes it more likely users will sign up for the available content - I can't be bothered using some of the stuff on my Smart TV because it's such a pain to register, log in and set up payments.
It's 312 ppi (beyond retina, contrary to the article) and, if it uses the same X8 chipset the new Droids have, it's actually an octo-core being misreported as a dual-core: 2 cores for normal processes, 4 for graphics, 1 for contextual stuff and 1 for natural language processing. With that setup the battery life might be superb even with a smaller mAh number than other phones.
Re: No desktop apps
Perhaps without the desktop mode its market position as a tablet would be more obvious; as it is we get a load of complaints about backward (in)compatibility. But the Office suite makes it a better prospect than any other tablet (ignoring app availability) so it's understandable that they'd include it - they just marketed it wrong.
If they allowed installable software on the RT desktop they'd create a confused ecosystem with X86, Arm and Metro apps. People are confused enough that they have 2 types, like Apple does.
Re: They got it wrong the first time...
The original tablet PCs were bulky and had an interface suited to mouse and keyboard. The Ipad was a success because it could be used with a finger. With Surface RT MS "examined those factors" and made something thin and light which could be used with a finger. I'll agree on the price though.
App makes sense on Android
On Android the app can appear in the share menu, so it gets integrated into the OS in a way that web apps can't.
There might be less data transfer when using the app, as the navigation, validation and appearance don't need to be downloaded.
Reality distortion field
"Although all ios apps sometimes send unencrypted data, 84% of users consider ios to be more secure than Android"
ios v Android: Less encryption, more analytics, more tracking, more contact and calendar slurping.
Re: So why didn't google make the play store push out system updates?
They weren't seeking control, so they made it open. It was designed right for what its intended use was, and it's up to the OEMs to patch their versions of Android.
Re: Stay away from those third-party apps
Unzip them and check for duplicate file names, then install if you must.
Re: Clue up
Shirley you can't be serious! It looks like you guys actually want your journalists not to understand their subject.
If people thought Surface RT could run windows legacy software then not running that software would not be a problem when it comes to generating sales - there would be returns instead. It's an Ipad competitor (on price, format and position within stores (next to the other tablets) as well as functionality), so not running non-tablet apps is not a problem. I know it's fashionable to hate Microsoft, but when you let the hatred take you outside the bounds of reality it just makes you look ignorant.
In what possible world does this make sense: "This tablet can't run legacy apps so I'll buy an Ipad instead."
Re: $349 just so I can use Internet Explorer?
When everyone wrote for IE MS was the problem. Now they write for Safari and MS is the problem.
Missing the point
Regardless of anything Microsoft has or hasn't done, should a tech journalist think that not being able to run legacy apps is a problem when the device is not designed to run legacy apps? If they thought that advertising it as something which could run legacy apps was the problem (it wasn't advertised that way), they should have written that. To be fair to the editorial team, the standard of reporting of Windows across the whole internet is generally pretty low, so they might not be able to get anyone better. But journalists shouldn't be confused by the tablet OS looking like the desktop OS (just because Apple does it differently, doesn't make MS wrong), and they shouldn't extend the confusion to their readership by calling it a problem when the tablet fails to work as a desktop.
I hope it's not "Joe and Jane Public" writing these articles.
The Register doesn't understand Windows 8 or RT. For example: "Problem is, it cannot run existing Windows apps".
What does it sound like when you criticise other devices because they don't do things they're not supposed to do? The Ipad: "Problem is, it cannot run existing Macintosh apps". What about Android tablets? "Problem is, it cannot run existing Windows, Linux or Macintosh apps". To those who understand, that's what the criticism of RT is like.
The Sony laptop I linked to was from 2004, the Intel design study you mention was actually 2007 (I'm outside the reality distortion field, so don't try that technique). Apple released the Air in 2008.
The Xbox was inspired by the Pipin? Only that? Not the Playstation, N64, Dreamcast etc? In the fanboy world only Apple inspires, and they can even do so after the fact. Props to their marketing guys again.
I do wish Apple fanboys would look around at what other hardware manufacturers are doing, so they can avoid nonsense such as "inspiring the PC market to follow suit". Laptops have been getting thinner since they were first introduced, but on this occasion the Apple copybots were clearly inspired by Sony (who in turn were inspired by Apple's pricing model).
Re: Dream bigger
There's a project in the works for a craft called Bi-Curiosity. It's going to probe Uranus.
Re: How quickly the argument changes...
No, the claim "our OS is super secure" is not attributed to Android. However, every story about Android malware is BS and plays on the fact that you can install malware if you really want to, and grant it permission to send premium rate SMS if you really want to. Some people fall for it, but plenty of Commentards point out that the reported vulnerabilities are massively overstated. Do Not make the mistake that they are claiming it's super secure.
Yes, the vulnerability is useless.
Re: Android, lol
You have to choose to give an app access to your data and access to the internet. On the other side, Google did not choose for the NSA to syphon all the data going to it and other major internet destinations.
The Play Store has been patched. If you choose to side-load something from an untrusted source and grant it permission to send SMS to premium rate numbers then Android will warn you, but not stop you. The vulnerability is useless to criminals - they can defraud you in much better ways.
Re: World's cleverest company states the obvious
The alternative to checking grades seems to be checking experience. So the projects you work on for the first few years of your career can define your entire career, even though it says nothing about capabilities or how you are as an employee. My first projects were on old technologies and didn't involve any difficult algorithms, and so have all my projects since then. But that doesn't mean I'd be no use at google.
Re: So in other words
Snake, if you don't want your data made available to your OS maker then the only choice is Android, which is another reason this investigation is BS. But I suspect you're in a tiny minority.
Re: They missed the obvious
What evidence do you have that Google has prevented Samsung from selling the Windows, Bada and Tizen phones that it sells? Or HTC from selling the Windows phones that it sells? Try using your nous next time.
Re: Google apps optional
They make way fewer non-Android phones because people want Android. Have you ever gone into a phone shop and been told they're out of stock of Windows phones?
Re: So in other words
Consumers didn't choose Windows because it had IE, but it couldn't be sold without it. And, allegedly, couldn't be sold with any alternative.
Consumers choose Android because they want Google services, but you can sell it without if you don't really want anyone to buy your stuff. And you can include your own versions of the apps even if you choose to include Google apps. It's up to the manufacturers.
So the fact that Android usually ships with a set of high quality apps, chosen by the manufacturer, is about as relevant to the Microsoft case as Apple choosing which apps it provides on Iphones. I don't see any cases being made that Apple shouldn't be allowed to do it wants with the devices it sells, even when it was the dominant monopoly.
There were big changes between 2.3 and 4.0. As time moves on Android apps will work on increasingly older devices and devices will be more likely to get updated. It's just the recent 2.3-4.0 gap that makes things look bad at the moment, but even as it stands there are only a few apps that require 4.0.
I got a load of updates on my Gingerbread phone after Google I/O, so I know what you mean. And I don't know what you mean.
Re: Baby steps
@Dave 15 the Nazis used demonisation of a religious minority as well as banning books Let's hope neither happens here.
With the christians coming over here and breeding, converting and forcing their views on impressionable young minds through the education system (like the Nazis did), we pagans have suffered for long enough. It's about time we kicked out this foreign religion or gave another one a go - they can't be any worse.
Re: As I understand it
Maybe they're not expecting people to use the 7" version for remote desktopping. Feck knows what they're expecting it to be used for though. The only reason to get one is if you have some paid apps on your large Windows machine and want to use them on a smaller one too, otherwise just get something more established like a Nexus 7. Regarding that type of lock-in, I look forward to the day when all apps are free, available on all devices and HTML 5, and we pay for the use of the services they offer. I doubt it will happen, but it should.
Re: As I understand it
That makes a lot of sense, but I've not seen it mentioned in the adverts. All I know is that the keyboard makes a nice clicky noise when it attaches.
It might have sold a few more if it had better integration with Kin.
Re: @Craigness - Available now
You don't have to give praise, but when you complain about having free stuff you just sound like a loser.
I'm on Google plus and youtube; I made my favourites and likes private, and I never send out a "i watched this video" status. If you don't want to use stuff don't use it.
They didn't harvest contact lists with buzz, they gave people the option to connect with people they already had in their contact lists, and gave people the option to make their connections public, as per facebook and twitter and linked in and everything else. I opted to do neither and therefore have not had to complain about privacy invasions. Other people opted in and still complain that they opted in.
Re: Available now
They keep giving you options for how to organise your mail when all you want is "all mail". They gave you labels instead of LYTFA, gave you filters instead of LYTFA, gave you a search box when all you wanted was for them to LYTFA, and you don't have to use any of it but you do have to whine about it.
Just type GA and you get the All Mail list.
Re: @Craigness - And that...
AC, having it removed seems to be what a lot of commentards want. Free means you don't have to pay for it. Do you need a lesson from a genius in how to know stuff is free? Viewing an advert doesn't make it not free. And they don't sell your data.
Buzz only did that if you selected the option. I joined buzz on the first day, before all the fuss about privacy, I followed the instructions for setting it up, and my privacy settings were fine. Others chose to make everything public and whine about it...for the next few years.
Re: And that...
Yeah, it's awful when you get stuff for free which you don't have to use.
Do you know what a google+ account is? Why would you oppose having stuff integrated with it? Do you know what this integration is? How does having a google+ account affect any user who has chosen to use their real name on Youtube? They don't have to post, they don't have to read, they don't have to comment, they don't have to upload photos, they don't have to circle, they don't have to hang out, they don't have to +1, they don't have to install the app, they don't have to visit the website or use wallet or google play and they don't have to buy an android phone, google doesn't have any more information about them simply because they have a g+ account. If you don't do any of the things you don't have to do with a G+ account then what exactly would be integrated? It's just a different logon mechanism.
If you don't want to use google stuff, don't use it. If you don't want google to know your name don't tell them. Commentards so often cannot understand how not to use things but for me it's easy. I don't have a reddit account, for example, and Yahoo doesn't know my name. Simple.
Did you know I created a Craigne.ss account for you? It's got your username in it and you don't have to use it. I'm going to integrate stuff with it against your wishes...
You don't have to sign up to google plus. If you don't sign up then the integration stuff won't do anything.
Re: I wonder when we will all be forced to suffer the New Compose clusterfuck?
The Compose feature is broken? So that's why I never receive Gmail emails any more!
Re: They've reinvented the portal!
Keeping the information you're interested in more prominent is exactly what they're doing here. Remember the days of Alta Vista when you had to scroll through a load of old items or mailing list emails before finding the one you want. Now you can archive the old stuff. And star that email to have it always to hand. Or you can search. Or you can let google identify important emails (which it does very well). But there is always the All Mail section if you want to go last-millennium, and you can turn off Priority Inbox. These tabs are just another way to help you see the information you want, and you don't have to use them.
Re: Photo Backup
Buy a Pixel and you get a terabyte free for 3 years. And a Pixel.
Re: Two Browsers Bad
Choosing to have 4 is different to being given 2 when you expect 1. I had 2 Maps/Navigation apps on my first Android. It took me a while to work that out and I could never remember which one to go to get specific functionality. There were 2 news apps too.
Re: Not too messy....
Google already has a load of guidance for devs. I/O 2013 is starting very soon so check out the videos coming from there.
Re: Same article?
It's not just overlays, they also change the settings app (so your OEM-specific settings can be in the same place as your wifi settings etc.) and, in Sense's case at least, improve the call and calendar alerts. They also change the notifications panel (I actually prefer the quick-settings in Sense 3 to those in Android 4.2.2). Those are not things you can do with just an app. The rubbish twitter clients and duplicates of Google products should go, but then there's useful improvements in the camera apps too, where you would want the default camera app removed to avoid confusion. A setting to make it work like a nexus is not realistic.
A good start to make Android a more uniform, less confusing experience would be to share revenue from the Play Store so the OEMs don't have to include alternative stores and media players.
They could do one where the boss is worried that the prospective client won't be able to open the document he's sending. Nerdy guy says he should save it in a open format. Boss asks why they need Office if they're using open formats.
@Mat you could also say that's the reason they recognise Israel. Palestine has existed for centuries but Google didn't always recognise this fact - why? It was named checked by the Crusaders.
Re: In news just in
Developers use windows on a massive scale. I've only seen 2 use Mac users in my many years in the industry. One was a poser and the other was a contractor who had it on his desk whilst he used a client-provided pc, because he thought it worked better for IR35. He was also a poser. Startups that get media coverage seem to use Macs quite a bit; maybe it helps them get media coverage.
And 1 guy used linux.
Re: In news just in
Are Mac users unlucky or just incompetent? Many say they have problems running Windows and give it as the reason for multiplying their it spend by a factor of 3 or more. I have an ancient Dell laptop for work, running XP with all sorts of weird software installed on it. In 18 months' daily usage it's never crashed, but occasionally it takes a long time to shut down.
My home laptop is a small and light Acer Aspire. 2nd on the list and I got it for 20% of the cost of a Macbook Air 6 months ago. It's never crashed (but I've mostly use Ubuntu for the last month).
Re: you mean a regular SMTP server...
This doesn't sound like spoofing, more like Outlook.com logs into Gmail.com etc and sends the email from there. So spammers would have 2 services which could detect and stop them, instead of 1.
Imitated by others? Flat design is already in Windows, Android and in Google's websites. Galaxy S4 already has 3d gestures. Apple has been playing catch up for a few years now.
- One HUNDRED FAMOUS LADIES exposed NUDE online
- Google flushes out users of old browsers by serving up CLUNKY, AGED version of search
- China: You, Microsoft. Office-Windows 'compatibility'. You have 20 days to explain
- Twitter: La la la, we have not heard of any NUDE JLaw, Upton SELFIES
- Apple to devs: NO slurping users' HEALTH for sale to Dark Powers