Re: No need to worry IMO.
Compare to Google if you like, they're practically the same wording.
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Apple made headlines recently for having the largest market cap of any company ever. Inflation adjusted it's still a long way behind Microsoft and IBM but it's currently about $623bn and was more than $300bn for the whole of 2011. It's got a p/e of just over 15, so its earnings are about $40bn. Its most recent quarterly net profit was $8.8bn, Samsung's latest quarterly net profit was $4.53bn. Apple's been on a tear lately but also Samsung's operating profit was 79% up year-on-year when measured in Korean won.
Apple also made headlines for having more cash than the US government. Its cash position is roughly what you've got for its total assets. But that makes the value of the phrase "app store", a grid of icons and rounded squares approximately zero, so you're not as far off the mark as I first imagined!
The personnel count means very little when you can hire a significant chunk of Foxconn's 1 million employees. Managing Apple's 20 products is much less employee intensive than Samsung's 20 industries.
Make no mistake, Apple is the very big bully here.
If it shouldn't be included under FRAND then they can charge what they like. If it's a required part of the technology but was declared too late to be removed in favour of other technology which was declared even later, then who really cares?
If something is worth paying for then people will pay for it (unless they can steal it). If the technology adds no value then it has no value, but it does add value so it should be paid for.
There's no need to assume but yes, I was wildly inaccurate.
Without cellular: 16Gb: $499, 32Gb: $599, 64Gb: $699.
With cellular: 16Gb: $629, 32Gb: $729, 64Gb: $829.
So Apple charge $130 for the chip when it's in an Ipad. How much have they offered to the people who did the work which adds $130 to the value of their product?
Before someone comments that it was all lovey-dovey, agreed and paid for
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/20/business/xerox-vs-apple-standard-dashboard-is-at-issue.html
Page 2 is particularly relevant to today, but now it's not new tech under discussion, it who should be allowed to use sliders and icons in...decade-old form factors.
Motorola want to be paid for their work, Apple want to stop anyone using ideas similar to their own. So only 1 of them is using the patent system to restrict competition. But if Apple decides not to pay for other's work then the only option is the courts, and threats of a ban.
Even if one Samsung black rectangle with rounded corners and a chrome egde with a single button at the bottom and a slit for a speaker at the top wasn't based on another Samsung black rectangle with rounded corners and a chrome egde with a single button at the bottom and a slit for a speaker at the top, that doesn't mean apple should be allowed to claim that there was nothing between the 2006 Samsung phones and the 2009 Samsung phones which were black rectangles with rounded corners and a chrome egde with a single button at the bottom and a slit for a speaker at the top other than the Iphone. Nor should it preclude Samsung from making black rectangles with rounded corners and a chrome egde with a single button at the bottom and a slit for a speaker at the top.
You didn't invent bread, meat or the slicing of either, and putting meat in bread has been done before. But if it hasn't been patented before then under the first-to-file rules you could prevent innovators from selling their goods. It would indeed be an apple style patent.
They've made a sandwich with lots of old fillings not found in the same sandwich before, and now want to ban others from using any of the fillings in differently shaped sandwiches (even with shapes created before apple entered the sandwich business), with different packaging and brand names, which do not pretend to be apple's sandwich nor want to be confused with apple's sandwich. Meanwhile apple pays nothing for the use of the slicing machine which makes all this possible.
Quite apart from the fact that a black rectangle with rounded corners and a chrome egde with a single button at the bottom and a slit for a speaker at the top is actually a pre-iphone Samsung design which they have the right to use, none of that nonsense answers the question of why every Samsung sale is an apple lost sale, when sales were made to people who would not have bought an apple product.
The F700 would have given apple too hard a job in court, so they were allowed to pretend it didn't exist and that Samsung's design department since 2005 has consisted of an iphone and a photocopier. But in the real world we're allowed to talk about it. Why do you bother with this apple fanboy apologetics when you know you're wrong and everyone else knows you're wrong?
AOSP does not require Google ID usage, and unlike other systems you can side-load apps, so it's not limited to system apps when you don't give it an ID. The fact that this exists proves that it should not be a concern for any.
You would not trust that company *because you're ignorant*. Would you trust Apple? They usually get a free ride on this sort of thing even though all your worries above could be applied to Apple, and not all can be applied to Google.
I use flash on mobile devices and it's never been a problem, always been very useful.
I also use it in Chrome on the desktop but have it disabled by default. This gives me the "full web" as Jobs envisioned it, and it remains a mass of grey boxes many years after he announced that vision. I don't enable all of the boxes, but I enable a lot of them and do so at least once a week. Flash works and it's still a requirement.
For the last Coward I'll make the following correction:
99% of people who have selected "Automatically send usage statistics and crash reports to Google" use flash each week and are not forced to be tracked by Google. Why do people still not get this?
Truer than you think, because this is clearly a downgrade. Google stats recently showed something like 99% of Chrome users used flash on the desktop in the last week. Steve Jobs was hopelessly wrong on this one, and the web is still not ready for a flashless world.
"the content identification system Google has developed, and implemented, should make the filing of takedown notices redundant." Yet you don't know why youtube won't be affected by the new policy? It's not a pirate site because any pirated material (and some which isn't or is fair use) is handed to its rightful owner (or one of the big media companies with a sufficiently broadly defined content portfolio) who then has the choice of a takedown, content removal (eg. delete the audio track) or ad revenue - all automated. It doesn't work too well for the little guy, but it's not them who are forcing the change. Sites which violate the big guys get demoted, and youtube isn't one of those sites.
Never mind what the court allows us to think, just look at all the evidence. It's not that Android users think Samsung is god, it's just they they accept that design is hard and Samsung went through many prototypes before coming up with a design which they were later forced to change. You're saying that Samsung should be told that their independent designs are copies of what Apple designers developed from Sony principles and then be banned from using their own hard work?
If you think that the court prevents people from examining all the facts then you're wrong. Those you dismiss as Fandroids are consistent with reality, whereas you are consistent only with how a failed legal system would like the world to be. That's why every post of yours is a fail.
What he said: "design patent so broad that you would have to actively go out of your way to try and avoid it"
Samsung applied their existing design patterns and came up with the Galaxy Tab. It was different to the ipad and other earlier tablets but the basics were similar to the ipad so they were forced to actively go out of their way to avoid infringing.
How is that not exactly as broad as he thinks? You post illogical, uninformed, outright wrong Apple fanatic nonsense many times a day here and get owned and downvoted constantly. You need to get a clue.
They're claiming ownership of a generic case design, which incorporates features that have been used before. Apple and Samsung both created designs which use those features and Apple wants to ban Samsung from using Samsung's (and Knight-Ridder's etc) design features.
If they want to claim a specific design then let them. Samsung's products are specifically a different design, but are generally the same.
What Pylets said. But it should be pointed out that you don't have to use ONLY 2.x APIs if you want to sell to 2.x devices. You can use 4.x APIs and make that functionality available only to 4.x devices. It's like developing a website for multiple generations of browsers with various screen sizes. El Reg is an exception, buy many websites function nicely across devices, as do many Android apps.
The "fragmentation" is not a problem because they designed the platform to allow multiple versions and hardware configurations. Design it properly and your app will work on a huge range of devices. Convert an ios app and you'll fail.
That BBC story was from 9th May. The sales figures have improved since then, and those don't include the Amazon store. Freemium and Free With Ads are popular models on Android, so the ad revenue should not be ignored. I suspect the main reason the sales are low is because there are so many developers offering free apps. With no fragmentation issue, it's easy for people to develop so whenever you need to get something done, there's a free app that will just work.
Samsung's "deliberate attempt to influence the trial with inadmissible evidence is both improper and unethical" but I bet Apple's attempt to influence the trial by claiming that the only thing between Samsung's 2006 smartphones and their 2010 smartphones was the design of the Iphone will not be questioned by the judge. Are lawyers under the "Whole Truth" oath?
For the press to be able to report accurately on this case they need to know the facts, which they now have. Hopefully they will report that Apple is presenting a narrative it knows to be wrong. It won't help in the case but it will help the rest of the world understand that apple is not an underdog company that just likes to make great stuff.
People think it's ok to register a design for a phone with a black face, large touch screen, single button in the middle at the bottom, slit at the top for the speaker, rounded corners and a silver edge before the iphone and continue to use variations of the design after the iphone. They think it's not ok for the legal system to give apple a monopoly on other people's designs.
I'm also more interested in making good products than in making money. A difference between me and Apple is that Apple are interested in preventing others from making good products. I don't see how others' success in terms of Product Greatness precludes mine, but I can see how it would affect my ability to make loads of money.
Well said, Mark. Apple gets such uncritical coverage by tech reporters, bloggers and the media in general that many people who don't follow closely could easily be of the opinion that Apple invented pretty much every aspect of the modern smartphone. Samsung is prevented from nobbling a jury which may well have been pre-nobbled by years of positive spin from Apple fans.
"Tracking Android phones is easy, says headline".
The researcher said it's possible to track smartphones but requires the phone to be connected to a malicious wifi network whilst it makes a location request. The only appearance of the word "easy" in the linked article is in a quote from another expert: "Today, it is not easy to infect many users with a malicious app". You'd expect nothing less from Google!
From the G+ app feature list on the Play Store;
"Turn on Instant Upload to sync photos from your phone to a private Google+ album"
1) If you have a data cap on wifi then don't turn Instant Upload on.
2) It's a private G+ album, not exactly "the internet" where everyone can see your weiner. If you upload stuff by accident, delete it. Nobody is forcing you to share your candid photographs with the world.
I shouldn't have to delete a twitter account I didn't sign up for. But, like you, I did sign up. And now what? If I don't use it then I will not be affected by it in any way at all, and neither will you if you don't use yours. How hard is it not to use something that you signed up for, or not to use something that you've not signed up for, or not to use something that is free, or not to use something that you paid for? I don't have any difficulty not using things, but it seems a lot of people do.
"Half the screen space in Gmail is wasted...People just learn to tune it out."
Some people select the Compact setting and have more info than you can shake a stick at. I can get 23 emails in the main panel and 24 folders etc on the left. The Reply button only appears when I'm reading an email too.
They can show that the industry was going in the direction of minimal decoration and large screens. If their device is only superficially related to a Sony product then they didn't copy it. The fact that they designed a phone so similar to the first Iphone without referencing the Iphone shows that they didn't take their design ideas from Apple.
HTC did all that, and I hear they have a patent on it, so they could disrupt Apple if they were as pathetic as Apple. But Samsung also have a patent! Surely these things don't get issued for frivolous inventions which have already been invented? Anyway, I doubt prior art would mater. An import ban is just a case of "does this infringe" and "does the damaged party want an import ban whilst the patent is being tested".
Metavisor, you apple apologists are getting more ridiculous by the day. The point is that someone who buys a tablet with Samsung written on it thinking it's an Ipad cannot be considered and "ordinary observer". They should be considered an "idiot". How can someone that stupid even know that they want an Ipad in the first place? The law on copying makes the sale of fake iPads illegal and the presence of idiots does not preclude things which are not fake Ipads from being sold to ordinary observers.
How funny would it be if Samsung gave Apple a taste of its own medicine over its infringement of Samsung's brilliant inventions for combining a phone, camera and email in a single device or allowing music to be played whilst doing some other activity on the device? No sales until you disable those "stolen" ideas, Apple!
If they clicked the Buy button next to the picture which wasn't an Ipad, and had the word Samsung on it, and was probably next to a phrase such as "Samsung Galaxy Tab" in big letters where a product name ought to be, then reviewed the order and saw that it said "Samsung Galaxy Tab" where an order for an Ipad would have the word "Ipad" and somehow thought they were buying an Ipad then they're not the "ordinary observer" to which the law refers. The only question I have is a what point they noticed it wasn't an Ipad.
A fake rolex attempts to be mistaken for a rolex. Galaxy Tab clearly does not try to be mistaken for an Ipad.