62 posts • joined Monday 22nd March 2010 13:46 GMT
assuming anyone uses instore wifi
the price comparisom scenario depends on customers accepting instore wifi,
i know i never will due to the snooping etc that can and does go on, but surely as is already known burying a clause about " you agree to be monitored" in the small print of T's and C's does not constitute "informed consent" and the EU already made that clear regard BT's contract changes to try and make phorm legal
also you have the issue "same as phorm" about website content being used for commercial gain as the website such as amazon has not given permission for their data to be intercepted and used against them in a competitive market
and yes i agree with the poster above, the badges are more likely to be used as a stick to beat the employee with rather than drive up customer service as they are design to do
all the time you go in pc world with there carefully layed out mechandise with cheapest on the left and more expensive on the right and the sales person is paid commision you will not get good advise for the customer, only good advise for the sales person commission and rarely are the two the same
problem is more and more people are becoming tech savy, or take someone tech savvy with them and the BS spouted by the sales team leads to a loss of confidence of the customer and a lost sale
i have corrected sales people in various stores and even been asked to leave after one lost a sale of several thousand because i exposed the lies he was telling the customer, good fun though
and how do you stop your competitors using the information against you
the more information you put on social media, the more leaks out for your competitors to use against you
unless you have closed groups with everything locked down you provide head hunters, competitors and every man and his dog access to your skill base and internal information
putting anything other than marketing information of social media is commercial suicide
imagine if you had uploaded a number of PR photos onto something like instagram, you then find out they have sold your images to a competitor because they changed the T'c and C's
the company i work for tried something similar with a closed system which was outsourced so the management could trawl it for skills etc, when asked if we had to put all details in we were told it was not compulsory so 90+% put just the minimum name and address in
the data was offshore with no safeharbour agreement and outside EU DPA area, sorry not going there and HR could not answer questions on data security, at which point BIG fail
the only people interested in these sort of things are those with a vested interest in getting their hands on your personal data
£15 for no ads hmmm!!
and how many ads would they have to serve to make £15 from a single users??
lots and lots, and if users are happy to stump up £15 up front how is that going to affect their bottom line ?
quite nicely up me thinks
so users get no adds for what they think is a small price and amazon get a nice chunk of wedge for basically doing nothing,
question is are they still gathering data, just not serving the ads? if they are they are still winning even more
time to check small print me thinks
Windows 8 to grab iPad market share wrested back from Android
Windows 8 to grab iPad market share wrested back from Android
goes along with other classic one liners
the world is flat,
moon is made of cheese
if you sail over the horizon you fall off the edge of the world
just about sums up what i think of M$'s chances
Google needs to change its cost, licensing and privacy fineprint to bag more enterprise clients
so "According to the Forum, Google needs to change its cost, licensing and privacy fineprint to bag more enterprise clients "
shock horror, problems with a big global outsourcer privacy detail, costs and licensing
thats the problem when your data is held by an overseas company with data centres all round the world (not just having a go at oogle here, many others as well),
in the EU we have DPA, if the data is in the US it can be held under "safe harbour" agreement ( but that is a voluntary agreement), many other countries you have to just your chances. for instance look at the instances of off shored call centre data breaches when they were the big thing until consumers voted with their feet / money
problem is when your data is held in the cloud, who owns the data, who can access the data, and who controls how long the data is retained for on backup after you leave the cloud?
also how can a company audit access controls to their data when they don't control the infrastructure it runs on?
to many questions for me with cloud based apps,
what about the skoda citigo - same platform and better if you are not a badge snob
no mention of the other VAG cars based on the same platform, that are cheaper if you are not a badge snob
look at the Seat Mii, or the Skoda Citigo
the skoda is better equiped, cheaper and has been available in 5 door format since launch unlike the VW up which will not have a 5 door variant until q4 2012 or even q1 2013
in the auto express group test the skoda was more economical than the other 2, better equiped and cheaper like for like factory fit options
install skype and surrender your bandwidth
i do not allow skype on any pc in my house as i do not wish skype to use my bandwidth or computing power for their profit
if you have skype installed, sufficient bandwidth and a average or better pc it will use you as a super node to route other people calls so they do not need to invest so much in their own infrastructure
and it has complex code to avoid blocking by firewalls, will use high ports, then port 80 (http) then port 443 (https) to establish connections and bypass firewall filtering / blocking
you have been warned, remember their is no such thing as a free lunch
lets put this through the bullshit detector !!!
<b>Though we have lost this appeal we will continue fighting to defend our customers’ rights against this ill-judged legislation," the telco added.</b>
good god the detector overloaded and exploded
lets put it through the isp speak translator now
"we can't make any money out of enforcing this and it will cost us a fortune in time to respond to request, not to mention the cost of sending out all those letters
and if we are forced to disconnect any customers we have lost all that revenue that we have fought so had to lock in with unfair long term rolling contracts with no easy get-out options.
we also reserve our right to be the only company to exploit our customers"
i think that says it all
faceache or offshored call centre???
dont have a faceache account so the leaves only offshored call centre
but i would rather give my credit card number to an offshored call centre than give any information to faceache
basically you would be screwed by both but at least the offshored call centre you might be able to order a good takeaway or have a laugh at them trying to see how far you can get them off their script
how will facebook use the data collected??
wil they use it to remove fake accounts where the spotify information does not match the faceache information??
you can just see them rubbing their grubby hands and wonder what new fields to put in their database to accomodate this new treasure trove of information, and once they have all of it they will ditch spotify and find another mug company to data rape of their customer information
never trusted FB, never had an account, never will
playbook failed for same reason as hp fondle slab
poor spec and over priced
i looked at both and decided i could buy a decent laptop for what they wanted me to pay for a oversized media player / web browser with little capability for expansion or connecting to anything useful
could this indicate people thought it was over priced??
at more than the price of a reasonable laptop wit little if any more functionaility than a smart phone what do they expect?
it is basically a wifi enabled browser that doubles as a media player and photo frame, you can download a few "apps" which are gimicky and you will easilly get bored with
no expansion with SD cards etc, no 3g, tied to HP branded docks and keyboards and WEBOS which is proprietory to HP until andriod is ported over shortly TOTAL FAIL
poor product which was over priced in the current climate, HP do not have the appeal of apple where people buy it because it has the apple logo on, HP and other manufacturers have to build worthwhile product at a reasonable price
HP failed until the price fell to a level people though was reasonable for the product
when will people learn
when will people learn that with these "free" services like google+, twitter, facebook etc, THEY ARE THE PRODUCT FOR SALE
the idea you give as much information as possible to the system, and ideally share it with the world and his dog, the the system (G+, faceache etc) then uses it for income from adverstising (in effect sells it to the highest bidder)
they even go out of their way to create API's for pay customers (eg advertisers) to be able to data mine YOUR information, so this is the reason they want you to share stuff publically, as if you say it is private thay are not able to make it public to their customers the paying advertisiers
that said unless they had paying customers (the advertisiers etc) the service would not be free
you can't have it both ways
but you do have a choice of using it or not putting information on it you do not want made public
invasion of privacy and viruses
invasion of privacy and viruses is how i sum up facebook to people who ask me about it
when you look at all the recent news about FB it has all been about how new settings/ feature have been quietly turned on to enable more data to be grabbed and shared before you realise
and most of the viruses i have had to clean up off friends pc's i am told by them came from FB (mainly games most seem to think)
never seen the need to share my life with the FB , the world and his dog so never had an account, nor do i plan to
i do have a twitter account but it is locked down and i refuse all followers, just use it to look at a few people
what we are seeing i think is people getting bored with the toy of FB, relialising there is no such thing as a free lunch and working that FB is selling their data to the highest bidder
i noticed the other day the HM GOV plans to allow you to log into government websites with your FB account,
thats great, gift all your personal / medical details to a US company that can be compelled by the FBI to release any data it has on you
it just gets worse
seen better kit and deals at a computer fair
i visited the essex store a month or so ago,
it was poor;y lit, i was looking for laptops and what i saw was very limited and little current models instock, most seemed to be end of lines and i thought prices were high even compared to pcworld (now that is bad)
e.g. only had iPad 1, no iPad 2's in sight
not inpressed i have seen better gear and prices in a dodgy east end computer fair
needless to say walked in, looked for less than 5 minutes and walked out without buying a thing
if that is their business model, can't see them being around to long
and how long??
"This approach is rejected by Safermedia, which takes the line that an opt-in system, verifying that a user is over 18, is a simple common sense protection for children."
and how long before a teenager gets a freing to set up a profile so they can access adult content?
the same friend who goes into the local off licence and buys the drinks using the money provided to them by the under age drinker so long as they get a free bottle or two
its another case of low hanging easy fruit that makes big headlines but actually achieves bugger all of the objectives
just puts yet more holes in the rights of UK citizens and then the list of filtered topics / material will increase until we can only see tesco and asda's websites
let me guess
let me guess, the tea leafs were after copper cabling due to the scrap value being high at the moment
ho hum, now have to wait for the signal cabling to be nicked on my local branch line as it was twice last time copper prices were high
and why do advertisers or developers need an adress or mobile no?
why do advertisers or developers need your home address or mobile number?
not to provide any legit service on faceache,
the only thing i can see is to sell it on for profit to other ad agencies or address lists, but hold on if you believe all the carp about faceach, then every man and his dog is listed (bar me and a few other sane people and non sheep)
or to link online and offline data to create a mega profile for people
seems like yet another reason (to add to the already massive pile) to not having a faceache account
mines the one without faceache watching me
dpa excuse is old had
more often "child protection rules" are now used not DPA as the excuse to be kill joys at the school play or any other events where parents like to take photos,
the photos to be used to embarass said child when they get old enough to have a serious boyfriend or girlfriend
i have had this where a child is from a single parent environment and that parent does not want photos taken as the other parent may find them during an ongoing court case or for other legal reason
but that is a rare case
NO BUT !!!
it only makes lots of money for the ISP (although peanuts as far as their total income) at the expense of the privacy and data interception of the ISP customer
there is absolutely no benefit to the ISP customer, it is all one sided in the direction of the ISP
a new el reg unit of measurement
so instead of horse power are airships rated in cattle?
whatever next, plastic bags rated in goldfish (like when you win at the fair)
as if i did not need yet more reasons to avoid apples products
so now they have their captive adience locked in, they will be spamming them with adverts they don't want
just in time for xmas
one more reason not to let an apple product through my front door
mines the coat without anything apple in it
and down the slippery slope we begin
so how long before the current service level people have is classed as the premium level service costing £10/month extra? and the current contract get demoted due to a piece of small print in the contract to the same speed and service level of dial up?
as to being able to move, since the phorm fiasco most ISP's now try and lock customers into 18 and 24 month contracts with big early release payments so they can't afford to change provider.
so the clue to this will be all the big ISP's mounting a campaign for new customers or cold calling existing out of contract customers to get as many locked into long contracts as possible so they can't leave just before they bring this in
what we need are these changes to be classed as "a material change" to contracts to allow customers the right to move regardless of contract, then what BT, VM, TT and sky squirm when customers vote with their feet
mines the coat with the short term contract in it from zen or Be*
would it not be ironic if they where the first name register, nominet.co.uk and could not remember
it would seem logical that they would be one of the first, if not the first??
so like all other businesses like this, accurate record keeping is not their thing
nice review what about phone 7's advert serving functions?
i notice nothing was said about phone 7's multiple ways to serve adverts to you, you know those little things that annoy people and invade privacy?? like the capablity for in-application adverts?
are there any easy to use privacy functions? to limit data being shared without permission to advertisers?
i assume due to the numerous restrictions on what software can do there will no option for programs like no script, flash block etc to protect owners from unscrupulous websites trying to gather personal information??
is there any way like the iphone advertisers can read any unique id on the phone to help identify the owner
these are questions that need answering before people part with hard cash for one of these little trinkets
i also notice "with applications heavily integrated and tied (or locked) to cloud services from Microsoft and its partners" which translated means they want your data where they can see it
anything interesting in the privacy section of the EULA regarding cloud services and how the data could be used?
sorry for being synical, just how i have become after years of being abused by the likes of apple, google and microsoft when it comes to my data and privacy
paris , because she knows when she is being shafted by the big boys
and our toothless ICO does what??
yet another example of other EU states with decent data protection departments are showing the UK how to do things, while our ICO believes all the BS he is given by big corporates and totally fails in his role to protect UK citizens privacy and data
mixing online and offline data
there are issues where certain companies are now mixing online data with offline to generate a very detailed profile for people
the other issue is where people replace a name with a unique ID (UID) this is no better than an alias and it still identifies the data subject, and in effect more uniquely than their name
how many fred blogs, tom jones are there ?, but how many with UID 123456789 ? but as the law stands at the moment the because these UID's do not have an actual name in them they are not classed as personally identifiable information (PII)
these are the sort of loop holes undesirable data highjacking ad networks are using to sidestep our ineffective regulators
"European law says consent for interception must be "freely given, specific and informed indication of a person's wishes". BT did not obtain such consent to include customers' internet traffic in its testing."
so where does this leave TT with it's stalk stalk service which they trialed without permission and intercepted customers browsing to strip the FULL URL to give to a third party so they could look at the page?
seems the EU need to look at both at the same time to save us tax payers some cash and knock these spy systems on the head once and for all
another one off my list
why does everything have to have embeded advert capabilities,
i am fed up with being tracked by super cookies, flash LSO's and all the rest of the junk advertisers are using , it has been shown people are creating code in html5 that enables virtually indestructable super cookie capability
i am fed up with having to take the time to secure my devices so that every man and his dog does not know what web pages i have looked at as soon as i click a button
what we need is a blank tablet you can put an OS of your choice on, like a pc / laptop. i don't think it will be that long coming either
no sh!t sherlock
"In other words, a majority of users purchase mobile phones primarily because — mirabile dictu — they want to make phone calls."
you mean people buy mobile phones to make and recieve phone calls
you will have all the the people at google and apple running round screaming that we don't want to be monetorised, tracked and have our location sold to all and sundry
reson why i will never by anything apple or andriod
mines the one with the old nokis brick in the pocket
not able to access faceache
so whats the problem,
i see no problem at all, as i do not wish to share all my personal information with the world and his dog
face ache has never worked on my orange phone, could be it is an old 6310i
does all i want, makes and recieves calls and the odd text
look at the huawei system
if you read up on the system supplied by huawie to talk talk it has the capability to "CATEGORISE" the pages it visits
as this will be a free service to STALK STALK (sorry talk talk) customers i will leave it to those on here to work out where talk talk is going to recoup the costs from, as they will not put a system like this in at a loss just to provide a nice service to their customers ??
free malware prevention
all current browser have malware solutions built in so like phorms attempt to use this as a "value add service" to get around PECR, TT will fail if they then try to launch another service based on the data provided
as how can a service be "value add" when the same service is available free in all current browsers?
there has to be money behind anything like this and it is normally advertising
any TT users able to see if cookies are being set for each site you visit?
someone fighting back
op is having fun with TT over the scraping of hhis board
this looks a crude attempt to get round some of the phorm issues
they claim they only pass the URL to the new system so fully anonymous, no ip, PII passed
only problem is how much data is encoded in a URL?
logon to hotmail and many other websites and a lot of other information is passed as variables after the ? in the URL's
this is every bit as bad as phorm, and they are not being clear as to the exact reason, but providing a obscure reference to anti-malware / parental controls
antivirus / malware embedded in the ISP network? wait for the phrase "VALUE ADD SERVICE" to be thrown into things to try and get around PECR etc (phorm tried it)
the anti malware is not required as all current browser have the funtionality built in. and there are numerous databases which are maintained
there will be some other service round the corner, no doubt to "MONETORISE" their customer base at the expense of the customers privacy
what other information is being gathered whilst they are "checking the page for malware" profiling the page for advertising?
do not trust this system, it looks like a crude attempt to get around some of the problems of the phorm system by making a direct request for pages
the obvious question
having developed the technology, one would hope they have suitable detection in place and methods to defeat the technology if used against us as well
looks like "tempest "specs will need upgrading :)
time to move line to LLU
i have been looking at the post office for some time,
they can support my unbundled ADSL line but now BT look like trying to shaft me yet again i think it is the nudge i need
mines the coat with a contract in for anyone other than BT
BT forum mods moved to apple?
have the BT phorum moderators been employed by apple?
seems to be a complete image of what BT did over any mention of phorm etc
seems to be a common line now by any big corp
if we don't like it we will just delete any thread and threaten / ban the user because we can
the government want me to access more services online?
i may when they stop wasting money on this sort of crap , facebook groups (which i do not have a profile on because it leaks PII worse than a hm gov website), giving my date to google analytics because they can't be bothered to analyse data themselves and prove they can look after my data securely
and then make our ineffective enforcement agencies like the ICO grow a pair and apply real penalties to those who abuse my data
then i may just engaged with hm gov online and only then
not wasted my time reading the document after seeing some of the comments here
i wonder what a screen reader app for the visually impair would make of the document
ever tried imaging dell computers?
i could quite understand the reaon for not wanting dell
on a number of occasions i have been on projects where i have had to image a number of dell machines, all the same model and spec, but bought at different times
on every occasion i ended up having to deploy a number of different images due to differences in chipset / motherboard
this is a nightmare for any support partner and why i now specify HP or other leading brands, as he lower price is soon accounted for by additional engineering time if you deploy dell kit so in the end the TCO / deploment costs are higher than other manufacturers
to there defence i should state the reliability of dell kit is good but it is best suited to home / small deployments from my personal experience
sp takes a dump
the normal kent effect is in full swing
kent ertugrul speaks and the share price takes a dive
PHRX Share Price: 142.50 Bid: 125.00 Ask: 160.00 Change: 0.00 (-28.75%)
PHRM Share Price: 157.50 Bid: 150.00 Ask: 165.00 Change: 0.00 (-5.97%)
good to see everyone has such confidence in him
the thing to note is the drop in the PHRX price these are held by a far smaller group as there are restrictions on who can hold them and trade themand these tend to be steadier even when there is bad news around
so much for raising the cash in brazil!!, whats up kent investors over there not interested due to all the attention DPDC, CCJ and CADE are giving you and your "partners" and the debate in korea is not exactly going your way either
and when do they add tracking scripts
so they buy a flight data provider, usefull information to add into what it already knows about everyone in the US
could tie up user details, zip code etc all to yuor google cookie
should not be allowed to happen
and the next question is ??
is this a taste of things to come with their next generation desktop OS?
because if they can get away with it on mobiles what is to stop them adding the same features to the next desktop OS or even the next service pack
if they think they can make money and get away with it they will do it, look at BT,VM,TT etc and phorm
if it is, expect more people to migrate to linux
M$ YOU HAVE JUST LOST HALF YOUR CUSTOMERS
M$ , get the message,
WE DON'T WANT ADVERT INFESTED MOBILES
we are fed up with advertising **$$^&$ s trying to monetorise the arse out of us, and we have had enough, this is yet another reason to avoid windows based mobile, along with sh!te battery life, slow performance, hanging etc
and this upturn happened when
would this have anythng to do with the relaxing of privacy controls then having to wind them back in? but to late the genie (private data) was already out of the bottle
and the encouraging user to share everything by default
users private lives being monetorised again
they did not know???
so when the first batch of data was uploaded why did they not say " erm, i thought we was only collecting mac's and ssid's" and then changed the software to correct the data collection?
that in itself shows intent, as they carried on collecting the data, that combined with the different way encrypted and unencrpted data was processed shows it was desirable to collect the raw data
i wonder if they were scanning the unencrpted data for google cookies etc to further tie location, person, google user down
could they also be looking to tie email addresses to users, there is so much you can do with that sort of data depending on what the user was doing when the google car crawled past
my wifi is encrpted , but i am still considering replacing it and changing my ssid just to screw googles database by making my data useless (may swap it with the mother in laws several miles aways :)
as to the question of dhcp addresses etc, google do not care, the cookies etc will link the new ip to you in no time at all , how many people clear down the cookies when they close a browser session??
also as to mac addresses and ssid's changing, one has to wounder if now and again andriod phone report back to base with updated information when you do a geolocation?
someone needs to look at the source code me thinks of that app
mines the jacket without an andriod or windows phone in it, spying on me
WHO DO THEY SHARE THIS WITH
the big question is why do they want you to expose these links to other sites and update
the reason is simple, more information = more money
if you provide them with the information that your joe.blogs yahoo account is the same as your fred.blogs facebook account and the same as your phil.blogs twiter account etc, they can then share (probably read sell) that information to others so they can also build more upto date / complete profiles of you
you probably built the seperate named profile in the hope it was harder to link them (or one was work eg linkedin, seperate nickname for your gaming etc) and all this sharing just undoes all that work of keeping thing seperate in one go
all of this has one aim of getting as much information about each person as possible so they can be tracked across multiple social network sites easilly and linking many disimilar named accounts.
this information is then able to sold to anyone (they say shared with carefully selected partners) to see this in action try and find the list of partners or email them and ask them outright who they have "SHARED" you details with and exactly what information about you has been shared
do not expect an answer from them
all turned on by DEFAULT !!!!
it was all set by default t share everything with anyone
this is as bad as google buzz
the options to disable it are hidden
you need to go into you yahoo mail account, then the blue "OPTIONS" and select the "mail options" link to get to the first page
you immediately see the share my updates option box is already selected
TAKE THE TICK OUT OF THISS IMMEDIATELY and save the setting
then at the bottom of the page IN VERY SMALL PRINT you have two important options
"Disclosure settings" and "show all YAHOO! sources"
click on the show all sources and notice immediately that ALL THE SOURCES ARE SET TO SHARE YOUR UPDATES WITH ANYONE!!!!
you have to go in one by one and select either "no one" or My Connections" from the drop down on the right of each source to have any semblence of privacy
once you have done that , you then have to go throught the whole process again for any sub account
this is just yet another attempt for a portal to grab as much iformation as possible from joe public with little or no benefit for those who's private information is being shared without prior consent
you could possible forgive yahoo for the blunder (assuming it wasn't a premeditated information grab) if GOOGLE had not gone through the same with BUZZ and facebook had not had to changed its updated privacy / sharing policy several times in the last few months
when are people going to realise these tools are not free , you have to give up so much privacy and give away so much information when you sign up
just look at any sign up page and ask yourself why do they need that information and who could they sell it to, before you click accept the terms and conditions and create the account
bonuses do not add to basic pay
"performance-based payments are its favoured approach."
yep because they do not add to basic salary so they are basically a way of implimenting a pay freeze
all this when the top brass award themselves an inflation busting payrise and big bonuses
time for the shareholders to vote down the boards renumeration package until it is fair across the board, oh sorry that won't happen old boys club and everything
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