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Good grief! Have you SEEN BlackBerry's SQUARE smartphone?

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FAIL

DOA

This phone is DOA. One has to wonder why if this is such a good idea, why none of the other phone makers thought about it before? Maybe because, the vast majority of usability studies show that most people like a phone they can pocket, or they can easily slip into their pocket book. I guess once you get rid of over 60% of your staff, whatever is left isn't the most talented, or forward thinking bunch.

The best think BB could have done, was to continue their BB7 line, while BB10 catches on. By now BB7 devices would have cost $50 bucks, and would have help them retain a lot of customers who are now in the Apple and Android world and would never go back to BB.

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Will Microsoft devices sit happily on a single platform?

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Just Pick One Language/Framework!

Much like apple was able to deliver a singular development environment build around good old Object C for both iOS and Mac OSX, I never really saw why MS couldn't have done the same with C#/.Net, which IMO is a pretty solid stack. Instead, they decided to also push Javascript/HTML5 for mobile development, which just confuses developers. Hell, even Apple was smart enough to abandon the JS/HTML5 app approach early on, and Google, the 800 lb web gorilla, never bordered. Why? I suspect their very smart engineers realized that mobile apps are closer to desktop apps than web-pages-apps. Hence, basing your mobile dev environment/APIs on desktop model will gain you more devs than JS/HTML approach, even though there are a lot more web devs out there in theory. To put it another way, someone who knows HTML/JQuery is going to have a hard time understanding a mobile dev stack. On the other hand, someone who knows Java/Swing or Object-C/Cocoa can get going on mobile app development with relative ease. It's just a matter of seeing what APIs to call and SDK to use. For example, this week I decided to get my feet wet with iOS development, coming from an Java/Swing world, it only took me a few days to understand how things work in iOS. I just need to understand Object-C Syntax and the APIs since the whole concept of client side MVC is known to me already.

There is also the issue that the JSHTML5 approach for mobile has failed to make any real inroads and has left many such mobile platforms (WebOS, Blackberry OS10, FireFox OS) dead, or dying by the wayside. Yet MS feels the solution to their stagnant mobile platform is down this road. The even invented a "new" language (TypeScript) to take this task on. Why they simple didn't do something like GWT, but with C# instead, one wonders? That at least would make more sense.

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Android to drop Dalvik VM for high-performance ART in next version

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Maybe Not

Since appeal court said that API are copyrightable, the ART would still be problematic since it uses the same Java APIs that got Google into trouble in the first place.

Also, JIT tech is pretty good these days, so I don't expect a big performance improvement. AOT is really only useful for reducing start-up times and initial memory consumption. That's why we haven't seen it used much in desktop/server side Java stuff. Improvements in hardware, combined with cheap memory makes it useless in most situations.

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BlackBerry bottoms out: Vows to wow with new Berries

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FAIL

Sure sign your device is doa

When you BB7 devices outsell the new flashy BB10 stuff then yea, it maybe time walk away from mobile market. Or better yet just make $50 BB7 devices. I know I still miss mine.

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ASUS launches 5-in-1 Android Windows Phone laptop tablet (breathe)

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FAIL

Atom based huh?

I bet Intel's cash funded most, if not all of this project. That's the only reason they would chose using an atom CPU for phone rather than Arm.

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Oracle vs Google redux: Appeals court says APIs CAN TOO be copyrighted

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Re: What Java APIs?

IBM had a licenses to do their own JVM from Sun. Also, you are fine doing your own JVM as long as it for desktop use, and you don't call it Java. Google should have just license Java since that would make the most business sense.

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Amazon stuffs games into Fire TV box: Soz, rivals... WE don't need to make cash on hardware

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FAIL

Don't need this

As a Prime customer, I see no reason at all to get this. My roku/ps3/pc/phone etc already allow me to to watch all the streaming I want. Also, given the next tv I buy will already come with some Android smart tv stuff, this makes even less sense to buy. Had this hit the market 2 years ago, then I think the situation would be different. In the end this just looks like sonething else to stream Netflix.

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What did you see, Elder Galaxies? What made you age so quickly?

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Terminator

Faulty simulation

Apparently, this whole universe might be a simulation, so there are bound to be these anomalies along with dark matter, dark energy etc...

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BlackBerry makes its devilish Android trickery official in OS update

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Re: Again, too litle to late!

Hmmm, I am sure BB wasn't allowing backdoors to government agencies. Oh wait, there is the issue with India demanding this from BB, and BB caving. Also, why do you think Pentagon loved BB so much?

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Re: How to install Amazon app store on BB10.2.1

How about install Google play store?

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Nathan 6
Facepalm

Again, too litle to late!

As a loyal BB device owner for the past 10 years, I finally had to get a Moto X, simple because I have to faith that BB is going to be making phones in 2 yrs (when I can upgrade to a new phone) so might as well migrate now.

IMO, One of BB biggest mistake was not making sub $100 (with contract) BBOS7 devices to appeal to users like me, who just need a phone that does task good enough, until OS10 proved itself. The cheapest OS7 device from my carrier was $250 and it wasn't even in stock. OS10 is of course better, but it has nothing that most people can't leave without (especially OS7 users), or find in the competition, and that is why it just not appealing to the masses.

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Verizon's transparency report shows more than 320,000 US data slurping orders

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Is this surprising?

Lets see, government funds and builds the internet backbone for their own purposes, allows companies to use it to sell services to their customers and now everyone is surprised when the government wants to pick at the data. Give me a break, if you don't want the gorv potential snooping then build an over the air, trusted, amateur, secure, ptp network for your own needs (FCC might have issues though). Otherwise, just assume some agency is snooping your data. Kinda like when put trash by the curb, its free for anyone to go through, much like when you send data over the internet.

Also, I strongly suspect that some gorv agency has a quantum computer munching away at data of interest.

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Dart 1.1 bullseyes JavaScript performance in latest benchmarks

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Re: Oracle sucks

I agree, GWT should be more of a focus for Google since I dont see Dart going anywhere soon. I have used GWT/GXT for a few projects and the speed of development is pretty good. On the other hand, Dart does seem to solve any problem that can't be solved using other approaches, and they made the fatal mistake of requiring the learning of yet another language.

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LG to bring Palm's webOS BACK FROM THE DEAD in TVs next week – report

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Linux

Maybe this time they do the smart thing.

Amazingly from the start webos shipped with a full j2se runtime, but the idoits running things never bothered to expose it to developers. Had they did that I suspect webos eould be in a much better position since the api/toolchain would be similar to Androids, but only couple years ahead.

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Meet the BlackBerry wizardry that created its 'better Android than Android'

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FAIL

So after Management has hit the Iceberge ...

So after management ran the ship headlong into an iceberg, and fled into their golden life rafts, its up to the engineers to save the company with "this cool hack"? At this point, the ship is halfway to the bottom, and no amount of hackery can save it.

Only thing that would have save them would be if they had build a Java API on top of QNX from the start, or just rolled their own Andriod OS 3-4 years ago. However, that would have required competent management.

Kinda reminds me of the whole JCPenny mess, in which a new CEO and his management team were given ~80 million in one year to save the company, and guess what, company is now way worse off. The JCP board would have been better of just setting 80 million dollars on fire or just given it to their employees.

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BlackBerry flings John Chen $89 MILLION to save troubled firm

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FAIL

Should have focused more on low end BB7 devices.

I have a current BB7 device and it can't compete with the current crop of Android and iOS devices, but it doesn't have to. I only need it for phone, email, texting and occasional Twitter, Pandora, Facebook. For mobile computing I just use my 4G MIFI, and Samsung galaxy note 10.1.

Folks like me are/were BB core customers, and they losing us because the want to offer something that I can already get with a lot of other devices.

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US.gov - including NASA et al - quits internet. Is the UN running it now?

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No Library of Congress (LOC), Means no document validation

In the library world a surprising number of XML formatted documents rely on LOC for the Schema needed for validation. Those are all gone now, so work just grind to a halt for now.

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Circling the RIM: BB10 becomes chamber of horrors for BlackBerry

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Its All About Getting Dev Support Early and In Numbers.

The meeting for select SDK for BB10 must have went like this

Manager: OK, we have shinny new OS in the works so we need a shinny new SDK.

Developer: Well, our current SDK is based on J2me/J2SE, so maybe we just extend the APIs to leverage the new OS. Our current devs will be happy, and we will attract a good amount of Java devs who know about writing apps. You know, proper debugging, unit testing, and year really good IDE ecosystem. We would just have to do a few plugins for the top IDEs. As a matter of fact we don't even have to pay Oracle for a license, we can just role our own VM.

Manager: Hogwash, everyone knows Java is DEAD! I think Adobe has some shinny new SDK. Adobe Air, Yes, it all html5 and stuff.

Developer: But others have tried that approach for mobile and they haven't been head from since (i.e. Palm webos etc...)

Manager: Nonsense, there are 1000s more web developers than Java developers, so success will surely be ours.

Developer: Just because someone can write a webpage using html/css/JQuery doesn't mean they understand the concept of writing something that doesn't look like a web-page.

Manager: Shut-up with these nonsense facts, but for good measure we will also provide a C++ SDK since, unlike JAVA, that's not DEAD.

Developer: OK. (in his/her head: I think I saw add for mobile Java dev at Google ... Hmmm, time to send that resume out)

Few Years Go Buy then ...

Manager: So it seems the whole html5 SDK thing didn't work out as we thought and we have no apps. Any ideas?

New Developer: Well, since Google has done some good work with their JVM, lets just port it and run Androids app.

Manager: Your are a genius, now why hasn't any of the other devs thought of this before!!!! I am sure we will have thousands of apps and devs now. I see us going strait to the top.

As of Today

Manager: Well OS 10 has failed to ignite the mobile world, and oh yes company if effectively dead as a top mobile platform provider.

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BlackBerry inks deal to go private for $4.7bn

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Re: Moto X it is then!

Let's see,

Cost of new phone: $99 US

Cost of NOT learning new OS simple to make calls, text, check/send emails, and maybe take a pic or two: Priceless. (Sorry Mastercard for stealing your line)

Believe or not that's how Apple or any other successful consumer company get to where they are. Find a product that works, and only make incremental updates that give consumers the impression that they don't have to lean anything new.

History's dust bins are filled with companies who had technically superior products.

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Moto X it is then!

Been debating whether to get a new OS7 BB device (never saw much value in BB OS10), or move to the Android camp by getting the Moto X. This news makes decision much easier. What would be cool is if I could run BB OS7 on the Android hardware.

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A single company is responsible for 1 out of 4 BlackBerry apps

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FAIL

The meeting for select SDK for BB10 must have went like this

Manager: OK, we have shinny new OS in the works so we need a shinny new SDK.

Developer: Well, our current SDK is based on J2me/J2SE, so maybe we just extend the APIs to leverage the new OS. Our current devs will be happy, and we will attract a good amount of Java devs who know about writing apps. You know, proper debugging, unit testing, and year really good IDE ecosystem. We would just have to do a few plugins for the top IDEs. As a matter of fact we don't even have to pay Oracle for a license, we can just role our own VM.

Manager: Hogwash, everyone knows Java is DEAD! I think Adobe has some shinny new SDK. Adobe Air, Yes, it all html5 and stuff.

Developer: But others have tried that route for mobile and haven't been head from since (i.e. palm webos)

Manager: Nonsense, there are 1000s more web developers than Java developers, so success will surely be ours.

Developer: Just because someone can write a webpage using html/css/JQuery doesn't mean they understand the concept of writing something that doesn't look like a web-page.

Manager: Shut-up with these nonsense facts, but for good measure we will also provide a C++ SDK since unlike JAVA, that's not DEAD.

Developer: OK. (in his/her head: I think I saw add for mobile Java dev at Google ... Hmmm to to send that resume out)

Few Years Go Buy then ...

Manager: So it seems the whole html5 SDK thing didn't work out as we thought and we have no apps. Any ideas?

New Developer: Well, since Google has done some good work with their JVM, lets just port it and run Androids app.

Manager: Your are a genius, now why hasn't any of the other devs thought of this before!!!! I am sure we will have thousands of apps and devs now. I see us going strait to the top.

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Firefox OS: Go away fanbois, fandroids - you wouldn't understand

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FAIL

Hmmm, another vendor trying the html5/JS API approach for mobile

The html5/JS approach has so far failed to gather much developer support (those interesting in making money at least) on the mobile side. Compare Android (Java API)/iOS (Object C API) vs. WebOS, ChromeOS, and the new Blackberry OS. All are pretty much DOA, so I don't see why Firefox OS would be any different.

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US Navy blasts drones with ship-mounted LASER CANNON

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Pulse is Infrare, So Silver Paint Probable Won't Make A Difference

These lasers operate in the infrared region where silver paint absorbs, so it's not going to make any difference how shinny the silver paint is in the visible region. A Gold coating may work better but still you would need a surface with a reflectivity of 99.99...% for no real damage to occur.

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Google's JavaScript assassin: Web languages are harder than VMs

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IT Angle

Dart -- Great in theory, but doomed to fail?

After keeping up with Dart progress for the better part of it's lifespan, I can see why hard core developers would like the concepts it bringing to the table for web developement. However, aside from the performance gains, most of what dart would deliver can already be done with existing stuff. For example, for structured development GWT/GXT presents a much better option since all the knowledge, tools, middleware etc ... are already entrenched.For more basic needs, there are enough JS frameworks and planned language additions to fit most people needs.

So the question remains, is there enough developers from those 2 camps who will by into Dart?

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Dropbox drops JavaScript, brews CoffeeScript

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So True!

Recently had to do a web based manager app, and did it using GWT/GXT, and the results were great. Being able to use the full IDE support for Java, compile time checks, and generics, definitely reduced the time to market and increased the maintainability of the code. There is also the fact that my backend and frontend code was more or less seamless connected which further reduce the amount of coding needed.

Performance is the only area where there is a slight trade-off, but I can leave with that. I just hope the Dart language takes off soon and make this approach to JS based apps the norm.

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Google offers tool to bridge Android and iOS app dev

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Codename One

Codename One seems to have a much better tool for doing this, or they will once the program matures.

http://www.codenameone.com/

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RIM: What's all the 'bleeding' fuss about BlackBerry developers?

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FAIL

Maybe all those adobe AIR developers will finally materialize?

When I first read about BB new OS, I went looking for what they add to offer their current Java devs. Answer, nothing! After scoping my Jaw of the flaw, can't realize no one was driving the ship at that point at RIM.

The only thing that can save RIM now to get mass developer interest is to OS 10, is to implement Java SE embedded (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/overview/getstarted/index.html?origref=http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/embedded-jsp-135769.html). This is not Java ME that's in the current BB OS, but a full Java SE stack with some optional stuff removed. They would probable just have to implement a mobile swing profile for graphics, or built something on JavaFX, and hardware access API. In any case it's would get a bunch of Java devs on onboard, since the dev tooling will be what they are already used to.

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Microsoft takes on tablets with keyboard-equipped Surface

Nathan 6
Stop

XP?

Slap winXP or win7 on that baby, I will be first in line to get one!

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Crazy Geckos: Nitot on Mozilla's post-Firefox mobile crusade

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FAIL

One Word ... DOA

It always amazes me that companies still push the whole HTML5 for app development, when all attempts so far have led to utter failure (Web-Os, RIMs new OS, Chrome OS, and Apples second gen iPhone?)

What these guys fundamentally don't understand is that though there are a lot of html 5/JS "developers", most of those only do relative basic coding (no Unit/Integration testing, MVC etc ..) Anyone who has done serious programming, knows the value of such technology when you talking about relatively complex tools. Moreover the tooling for "native" coding (Java, Object C, .Net) is simple a lot more mature, and standardized. There is also, the issue of actually having a set of standardized APIs for stuff desktop devs take for granted (UI, I/O, Network etc ...).

A good take on allot this is is in a talk by Gilad Bracha, about Google's Dart. Now the focus is on Dart, but he gives a good overview as to why you really need structured programming/good tooling) if you want to do complex web apps that are maintainable by none code Ninjas.

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BlackBerry 10 developer kit aims to unleash application tsunami

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FAIL

Tsunami of Failure, that is

RIM's new OS dead. By saying f*ck you to their current Java devs, they basically drove yet another proverbial nail in the coffin.

If I was RIMS board, I would be pushing for buyout by M$.

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Oracle v Google round-up: The show so far

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Re: A couple of "really not corrects"

Hmmm, you clearly not a Java developer if you think it would be a good idea to run the full J2SE stack on a smartphone (going back 10 years or so). It might be cool, but no, you have to work with subsets of the main J2SE platform. Also I am not sure how that would be fragmentation, It's just good platform design.

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Only need to show one

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Google, and by default its' Partners are in Trouble

As I said when this case was filed couple years ago, Google should just have licensed Java and be done with it. In the end, Android would look exactly the same, aside for some additional J2ME stuff added in. Also, with time, the J2ME and Andriod APIs would have likely just been merged.

Aside from the legal issues, a more interesting aspect of the case to me is the fact that Google seems to be one of the few mobile platforms developers who actually did their research to see what SDK would work in that space. If you look at RIM, HP (WebOS), and Nokia, all the other mobile Linux distros they all pursued some other brand new, and unproven (in the sense of mass developer uptake, not technical merits) "html5/css APIs", or worst some native C/C++ library like QT (nthoign wrong with QT, but number of mobile developers who would know QT is very low) etc ...

Kudos to Google, and Apple for that matter, for realizing that success in the mobile space has less to do with developing a sexy, new set of APIs, but more about leveraging what's already being used in a similar capacity. Or a better way to put this "first and foremost, appeal to lazy developers who don't want to lean yet another language/APIs, just for some potential incremental benefit".

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RIM's apps revolution swings on Blackberry 10

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FAIL

Really RIM?

So rather that providing a single (Java based) API based on your old API, but improved for you new OS. You instead provide 3 APIs for developers to target. Well given how well that has work for the Playbook, can't see why it wouldn't be a success and your smart phone market share goes to 99% this time next year.

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RIM: BlackBerry 10 is fine, delays are down to chip ship slip

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So true

BB mistake with their new OS is not having a Java API to code against. Not sure who was the idiot in company who decided to push the AIR platform for apps (Adobe isn't even pushing that any more) on new OS, but they should be fired.

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Why there's real hope for webOS - if HP is committed

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Meh

Its the API's That Matter!

Right now in mobile, there are just 2 APIs that matter most to developers. Java based of Andrioid/RIM (older OSs), and Object C base of iOS. In a few years, then maybe win phone API will also be more attractive.

With WebOS, there just isn't an attractive API to code against, which is a real shame seeing how earlier version of WebOS did have a Java API in there. HP/Palm just decide to promote the whole HTML/CSS/AJAX API, which hasn't proved attractive to developers. Something to do with native apps can be more readily monetized. Rim is also facing the same issue with their new OS.

In short, developers are just not interested in learning some radically different API if the device/OS market share is not that high no matter of good the OS is ( i.e. low return on investment).

As such, I don't see WebOS going anywhere, open source or not. Much like Linux hasn't gone anywhere on the desktop (speaking as avid Linux user for the past 14 years).

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Java's 'Steve Jobs' moment in 2012?

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Good point

Good point. People should really ask themselves, if HTML5 is so good then why is Android's and iOS main APIs are not based on it? As a matter of fact, only OS which did have HTML 5 based API is effectively dead (WebOS),

What I have noticed is that developers who only do html/css/AJAX stuff really don't seem to understand what's needed to do a complex of applications. They take a look at web mail client or something, and think anything can be done in ajax/html. Those of use coming from desktop app world seem to have much better idea of the limitations.

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Google plan to kill Javascript with Dart, fight off Apple

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Thumb Down

With the exception of C in you great languages list, what exactly is the adoption of the rest combined? Less that 2% I would guess. Being a great language from the stand point of design doesn't mean it worth the investment is using it if some other general purpose, more widely used language exists.

Anyone remember when RoR was suppose to to kill PHP? Years later, PHP is still going strong while RoR usage is pretty flat, said for some high profile sites.

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HP's WebOS mess: When smartphone assets go toxic

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It's the APIs Stupid

The reason why all these mobile OS have failed so badly is because of the Language/APIs they decide to push. If you look at Andriod, and from recent emails made public from the Oracle/Google lawsuit it's was/is clear there isn't many languages/APIs that make sense in the mobile space. Yet time and time again we see companies coming up with these new programming Languages/APIs for which no significant programming community exists. Now WebOS was JS/html/CCS based, but to make that work, they had to build proprietary APIs which of couse few developers are going to take the time to learn if there wasn't a big uptake of the hardware. I see the same thing with BlackBerry new OS: Adobe Air ???? Why?

It's pretty much Java and Object C for now, since that's where you have the biggest developer pool exists.

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Shuttered SETI reboots ET pursuit

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Happy

Cloud it Out?

Why don't they simply rent this things out to average people? I caculate for about 400.00 dollars and ~ 8000 people paying, they might turn a profit. Now, not sure what cool things can be done, but I am sure someone can think of something.

Maybe combining renting with launch of amateur satellites sent up into space. I can see trying to send home built satellites to Mars etc ..., and using these babies to communicate with them. Would be interesting to see how far they actually make it. Cost of lunching would be an issue, but we just need find company to do so relatively cheap, or just use a bunch of model rockets.

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Google SHOCK! Snaps up Motorola phone biz for $12.5bn

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J2ME licensees can ship what ever other API they want

Once you have a J2ME license, you are free to ship what ever other APIs you want on top of that. You only have to implement the APIs need for J2ME to satisfy the license agreement. For example, RIM ships a standard J2ME VM, but they add a lot of their own APIs on top of that. If you look at Andriod, is essentially the same approach in that they do not really have a full fledged Java 2 platform since no Swing etc., but if they simple implemented the J2ME API then they would be in compliance with the J2ME license.

My prediction is that Oracle Google reached an agreement in which the Andriod APIs becomes core the next mobile Java platform. Both sides would be foolish not to do this.

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Relevance to Oracle Lawsuit?

This may help Google with their Oracle lawsuit. Since Motorola is a J2ME licensee, then as a result of this purchase, Google becomes one also. The still would have to pay damages and such, but at least they would now have a license to ship Java in mobile devices.

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Oracle seeks 'billions' with Google Android suit

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As they should!

Unfortunately for Google, the more successful Andriod is, the more they will have to pay out. Oracle should have really bought Sun when they had the chance, now their best option is to settle this ASAP.

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Windows 8: Microsoft’s high-stakes .NET tablet gamble

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Excellent Point

It always surprising me how people who come from a HTML/JS background always believe you can do all sorts of complex apps using that technology, while those of us coming from Java/Swing who do AJAX stuff quickly sees that it's a bad idea to go completely that direction. What's needed is a good balance, and once of the best I have found is GWT.

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Linux Foundation chief dubs MeeGo 'unstoppable force'

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Wrongly Focus on Techonology and Not Sustainable Business Model

I Agree with you that what you discussed sound really impressive, but at the end of the day, no matter how good the technology is, if it's tied to dying platform then developers simple won't use it. To put it another way, there has to be the potential to easily monetize software and have a sustainable business model.

Moreover, for any platform to be a success there must be large pool of available developers who can quickly use their skills to code for the platform. With the Java, that is the case with AJAX/HTML that clearly is not. Odds are, someone who does AJAX webapps is going to have pretty hard time understanding OO principles and APIs that all major mobile OS embrace.

Just look at the three most popular mobile platforms and those that are failing.

Success:

iOS => Object C

Andriod => Java API

Rim BB => Java API

Failing Fast:

Rim Tablet => Adobe AIR

WebOS => AJAX/HTML/CSS

Now you can always do native coding on any of those, but from a business point of view, unless you are Apple, then having a Java API seems like the only viable approach for having a successful mobile OS platform currently. Even Rim and HP seems to be coming to that conclusion seeing how they now want it to run Andriod Apps.

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FAIL

Another DOA Open Source Product

Hmmm, don't see much point in this with Android around. And oh yeah, android uses Java API for development. What does this use? Maybe something cool and revolutionary like AJAX/HTML API's? Oh wait WebOS tried that and dev support has been dropping fast.

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Project Ceylon – Red Hat builds Java killer replacement

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Totally Agree

Any serious developer knows this, and that's why even with all the issues Java has, there is nothing that comes close when it comes to standard set of cross platform APIs that a ton of developers know. Why do people think that Android uses a Java API and not native C, C++, or even AJAX.

Also, unless Redhat is going to spend billions marketing this, then I can't see it going anywhere.

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HP promises App Store and Microsoft love in webOS world

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FAIL

WebOS DOA

Hmmm, this is going to be as successful as Zune. WebOS is more or less DOA as far as I can tell. No developer ecosystem and competition is just to far ahead. What exactly does WebOS offer that Andriod/Apple/Rim can't?

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Ruskie Java coder lifts inaugural Facebook Hacker Cup

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Go

Why, no Javascript?

This is surprising that none of these coders choose given all the web 2.0 talk these days. I guess when it really comes down to it, programmers in the know are going to chose the right language and platform for the Job.

I am also not surprised that this person choose Java for the reason given. I to have to code in a mixture of Java and python/php/ruby/javascript and I can tell you although more verbose, I make far less mistakes in Java than any of those other languages. I have even gone to using GWT for Ajax stuff to keep the strong typed nature of Java.

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HP to put a WebOS in every PC

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WTF?

BeOS

Be OS finally returns to desktop?

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