75 posts • joined Friday 19th March 2010 10:21 GMT
Yet another reason ...
.. to be careful what you put on Facebook.
I presume there's a way to protect images you upload? Perhaps people putting pics of themselves on public websites should think about what precautions to take. After all when the police come knocking on your door they're not likely to listen to you protestations of innocence, until your name's been dragged through the mud and you've been down to the station for 'a little chat to clear things up ...'
There are so many ...
... criticisms I could make of these glasses. Why then do I want them?
Sue him for slander?
One of the commentards suggested the Head sue for defamation. In a way I think that should have been his approach. I am sure any decent solicitor would have explained to him why that was a bad idea, and might have stopped him making a fool of himself.
Or maybe he wouldn't have listened ...
Checking our policies now.
I hate seeing:
Data Protection Policy - homeworking: refer to the HR Homeworking policy
Homeworking Policy - refer to the Data Protection Policy.
No ambiguity there.
From the ICO website:
“Ms ***** escaped with only a relatively minor penalty and no criminal record. The government must act now to introduce tougher penalties for individuals who illegally access and disclose personal information.
“This is not just a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act, but it also led to a police investigation of alleged domestic abuse being dropped.”
So was she charged with a criminal offence of not? The ICO brought the prosecution, at the least they should have done a better job of presenting the case.
But they're not a public body!
Surely a mistake?
So we've moved from think of the children ...
... to think of the little doggies.
But not too much!
And don't film them - you filthy perv....
Offensive vs Business sense
Dunno how offensive the term is - I've never heard it used politely, but it seems bad business sense to drive away a section of potential customers.
All censorship is political
Welcome to the United Soviet British Union.
Soon they'll be coming to get anyone who thinks differently.
Hmm, someone's at the door ....
Plumpie and the Police
Even if he didn't steal it he must be aware that it is dodgy. I have no sympathy for him and hope the police get of their backsides and actually try to catch a criminal. They may find it a rewarding experience.
the coat for obvious reasons.
Home Owners Defending themselves
I dunno if this case strengthens the argument in the States for gun ownership or not.
Can't help but think though that in the UK the phone call would have gone:
"Police there's a drug crazed burglar in my house I'm terrified he might hurt someone."
"All right sir, calm down, we'll have someone round in half an hour or so to give you a crime number so you can claim on the insurance."
"I'm pointing a gun at him, if he attacks me I'll shoot."
"Our armed response team is on its way now."
Sound of sirens helicopter overhead much confusion the arrest of the homeowner and counselling offered to the poor victim of the terrible crime - namely the burglar.
If I sound bitter, sorry but my wife was attacked in a supermarket by a violent shoplifter who was stopped by a member of the public. the police spent more time trying to find the 'have a go hero' so they could charge him with assault than putting together a proper case against the actual offender.
As for the shoplifter he was given counselling, social services supported him, free legal of course, aid and help and eventually a sentence of three months probation. (He already had the proverbial record as long as your arm.)
Time for a change in the law
It seems that the govenment nneds to ahve the courage of its convictions.
Build more and more and more prisons.
Round up all the adult males in the country, not employed as cops of course. (They need to enforce injustice.)
Incarcerate the said males and release them only when they can prove thay are NOT perv, pedos etc.
Maybe that will be the next step.
Re: Needs to marry better, maybe
Just read the mentioned article on the BBC website. So we will extradite anyone but sex offenders?
*beats head on desk*
Seems like a good game, but I won't go near it with thislimitation. If I'd bought it then found out I needed a constant internet connection I would have demanded my money back. Doubt if I'd been successful though.
NHS and IT?
Gotta agree woth the pessimists when it copmes to NHS and IT.. I know of one NHS organisation where the IG Manager wanted WinZip installed. Response from the IT head - "You'll need a project manager ...."
"No, it isn't. What does the data protection office have to say about all this? Should you not have gone to them for a quote? I bet they would be interested in this sort of thing."
You're kidding right?
The ICO couldn't give a ***** It's not apublic body, so in the view of the Idiot Control Office - no harm done, end of.
Re: And in other news
"The NHS is going to have everyone's records online by 2015, through the magic of the private sector and competing innovators or something.
Aaaah - Facebook ...
Just check your privacy settings
Re: Paying for monkeys
Couldn't agree more with parts of your post.
At the last public body I was at they appointed a new head of the Help Desk (quite a senior post). His experience with Windows? He had been selling them the double glazing kind.
He needed help even getting on to the network but he knew the right people so his position was safe.
the blog was by a member of staff at a hospital, a fact pointed in the emil to the ICO.
Mibbe I should send the response to Private Eye ....
Re: Another blow to the public.
Three times I have complained ot the ICO about people's bank account details being passed to me (I have no need to se them) by insurance comapnies.
Emailed about a BLOG which identified patients.
Response: a BLOG is for journalistic purposes so is exempt fromt eh Data Protection Act.
Another blow to the public.
Frankly I resent the way the ICO go after public bodies, and leave the private sector alone.
I will be a patient one day, and my local Trust will have no money left after payng thee £100,000 salaries of directors and the fines the ICO is dishing out.
I just find it incredible that an employee would be taking such sensitive information into a pub.
Surely you don't need Data Protection Training to realise that's not a good idea?
Am I the only one ...
...who thinks that if you pass an act supporting open government, and openness in government, it's not a good idea to go to war on a dodgy premise?
(Or should that be wars on dodgy premises?)
And how can the police ask for a tenner for an FOI request? It's supposed to be free!
Wasn't there a case ...
... some time ago where a jury (allegedly) used a ouija board to help them reach a decision.
No-one went down for that (apart from the accused).
So the moral is ....
.. sack the guilty employee ..
I have to agree.
I've been involved in something similar, explained tot he employee what she was doing wrong and how to make sure she got the right address.
i) it wasn't her (showed her the email trail so show it was)
ii) I wasn't important enough to tell her how to do her job.
She carried on sending info to the wrong person. She has left us now (probably promoted).
I don't remember this lot ...
... voting agianst the Act when they were in opposition.
In fact Eve Atkins used to put (badly written) FOI requests in regularly to the NHS. The NHS time she wasted with her gibberish would be impossible to calculate, but a colleague calcluated that she had cost the NHS over £2m in one year.
Now the damned hypocrites want to exempt themselves from the act.
There is an easy way to do that.
... jailed for trying to have it off with a blackmailer ....
Would thesentence have been longer if the blackmailer had dresed up as a fifteen year old gilr and consumated the relationship?
1) the council should not have release personal detauils of its employees under any FOI request. I have had this argument with the ICO who, at one time, were all for saying you're a public employee everyone has a right to see your name address etc (yes really). Now the Info comssioner is a little bit more aware, as I pointed out, that working for a local body does not mean you surrender your human rights!
2) and yes it will get worse. There is one case under investigation where the breach is far, far worse than this. (My advice was ignored.)
"In the fucking park?"
Yup. That one.
I have no doubt a lot of posters will disagree with you. All the journos want their free stories and want the public sector workers to do their work for them.
Simple solution. Charge for FOI requests. If a story is good enough it's worth paying to research for it. This won't happen because our politicians are still obedianet to their policitcal masters in the media.
Still the millions that would be brought to the exchequer could help pay for nurses medicines etc.
If htere are things I want to discuss and not reveal to the world I pick up the phone, or have a meeting over a cup of coffee.
Anything written down is potentially public property as far as I am concerned.
So the Informatin commissioner wants
Maybe he should explain his priorities to his staff.
I reported threee insurance compaines for sending patient bank account details to our hopsital. the response can be summed up in two words.
Bit of consistency might be useful Christopher.
this is not a post
What's the issue? The police have been doing this for years.
Oh wait that's China - oops. :(
... heard on the radio ...
... that one of the posters was drunk, made the post went to sleep, woke up, realised what he had done, tried to delete the post, but was too late.
I don't know all the facts, but I would have thought that the failure to incite a riot would have attracted a lesser sentence, say community service?
No title is required
This should be interesting. I think there will definitely be an increase in the number of requests under FOI. Best thing the public bodies can do is put more information on their websites, or maybe even have decent easy to navigate clear websites.
A triumph for common sense?
But an innocent man's name has been released into the public domain. Will the police give him a new identity and gain an injunction preventing the press from releasing any details about him?
Oh wait, you have to be CONVICTED of a crime, like murdering a two year old to get that sort of consideration.
I agree ...
.. that this was a tragic accident, and what other posters havepointed out. The barrier was too low AND people should take more care while texting and walking.
The teenagger seemed like a reasonalby decent person, he didn't deserve to die like that.
"The Reg, despite lenghty questioning, failed to find and detail of exisitng legislation that BeatBullying felt needed changing."
Must be some march when they demonstrate:
"What do we want!"
"erm ... er ... ummm "
"When do we want it!"
What you write may be true
kanhef, but recent history has shown that technolocy tends to improve, certainly where graphics are concerned.
Given the current trust issues can we all be certain that when version two of the 'perv scanner' comes out we will be told that this one cen identify every mole and wrinkle on your body?
Not that this is the current problem. It is one of trust. We were all assured pictures couldn't be saved: it seems they can. Soon the line will be they won't be saved, esp[ecially scans of celebrities, attractive young people etc. etc.
At least they won't want to save (or share) a scan of me. :)
Would anyone have ....
... believed a result that did not return Mandela?
Still I suppose it's a lesson that democracy should always be rigorously proteced and elections scrutinised.
Speaking personally I will always be in favour of pencil nad paper voting with a public counting process. It may be expensive but free elections are worth the price.
Even if I always seem to vote for the losing party.
I used to be the FOI ...
... lead at an acute NHS hospital.
The most sould destroying job you can imagine.
Journalist asks for some info, say number of unexpected deaths in ops last month. Pass request to relevant department. Send reminders. Month later phone up.
"No we don;t want to release that information," (I got this a lot.)
"It might make us look bad."
After a month or so of not responding.
"I am no longer responsible for this ..."
I was pretty much hated, and even got a roasting from senior staff for being "too co-operative with journalists."
Yes, until individuals are prescuted nothing will change.
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