Re: UnfunnyScrub NumptyScrub
Oh Matt, I'm not the one posting blatant ad hominem attacks, am I?
"......Contains only supposition or strawman arguments....." Actually it only contains mocking of your blinkered outlook. TBH, I'm not really surprised you missed that. I note you don't want to post a counter to any of the articles I linked to, is that because you now are forced to admit that paedophiles were not 'imagined up' by The Man just to oppress you?
I'm not the one making any claims regarding the existence (or not) of paedophiles, you are attributing an unstated (and untenable) position to me just so you can attack it. I know they exist, and I am happy to state categorically "paedophiles are a real thing that really happens and has been happening for several thousand years". It's no excuse (IMO) for increasing the sentence for keeping your mouth shut to longer than aggravated assault, though. There is literally no point "countering" articles you posted when I agree that paedophiles exist, is there?
".....I said that RIPA s49 was extended to 5 years "because paedos" and the link above corroborates that assertion....." What, you're still trying to ignore that the Act specifically mentions terror? The Act itself (see here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/23/part/III/crossheading/offences if your blinkers allow) specifically links to the Terrorism Act 2006 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/11/contents).
Nice to see you also managed to somehow miss my very next next sentence when you claim I am "ignoring that the Act specifically mentions terror". Well, it specifically mentions national security, which does technically cover terrorism alongside other, less terroristy things like espionage and treason. However you seem to be ignoring the bit where you stated it was not extended for child abuse cases, yet your link shows clearly that the extended sentence is for child abuse cases as well as national security. It's fine, this is clearly an emotive subject for you so I'm happy to overlook that and focus on the facts :)
And rebleating Benjie Franklin again? Seriously, you need to get some new material as your whole comedy routine is getting staler than Michael McIntyre's. I suggest you spend less time ovinely absorbing righteous froth sites and read up on a Leftie like Ben Elton, who is original and funny even when speaking absolute tosh (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vaXis4wi78w). Or is Mr Elton too old and no longer considered 'hip' by today's fashionably faux outraged youth?
I'm well aware of Mr. Elton, thank you very much. I just don't agree with much of what he says, even if it was vaguely amusing at the time. I do however strongly believe in personal responsibility, something which has fallen very much out of favour recently, but is encompassed in that quote from B-Fran (or whatever bastardisation of his name the current generation would come up with). I do not require wrapping up in cotton wool and 24/7 surveillance to be safe, I am responsible for my own safety. All of the community are responsible for the safety of the community, and pretending otherwise is idiocy.
"....Are you really so desperately scared of terrorists and paedophiles?....." Well, not paedos as, unlike you (going by your posts), I am well over the age of consent. But, having seen first-hand the effects of terror, having actually visited many parts of the Middle East over an extended period, and being able to read grown-up news sites, I am concerned at the threat of terror. Don't tell me, I have to now include a list of terror acts as you now want to insist terrorism doesn't exist as well?!?
I lived through the various IRAs bombing London from the 70s onwards, and yet I hold the views I do. People act like terrorism is a new thing that we need to start responding to, except it has been going on for thousands of years. The point of terrorism is to cause terror; if you do not let it terrify you, it ceases to be effective. If the community as a whole refuse to be cowed, then terrorism loses its point.
I refused to be cowed by the (p/r)IRA then, and I refuse to be cowed by IS or Al Qaeda or whoever the muppets du jour are now. Doing it my way requires no extra powers for security services, it just requires the public to take responsibility for themselves and for their community (you do not need blanket communications surveillance if members of the public are reporting dubious individuals to you, you can then obtain valid surveillance warrants using existing due process). Depressingly, people these days seem to refuse to take any responsibility for themselves or their community, and instead demand that someone else do it all for them.
If people would just
man person the fuck up and take responsibility for themselves and others, we wouldn't be in this shit in the first place :(