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Unfortunately not going to happen.
The 'light' option will essentially be none though I think, however calling it none would be inaccurate since there are some sites they are required to block by law such as thepiratebay.
I suspect if they called it 'none' and still blocked TPB etc you would complain about the inaccuracy.
Re: Is this a Real world vulnerability?
Yes it is, assuming such malware existed.
However my original point a, stands. If you've left your phone unattended you're not likely to see it again.
Re: Is this a Real world vulnerability?
The only real world situation where this applies is if an 'attacker' gets hold of your phone after you've unlocked it and before it locks again. Perhaps if you left it unlocked on the bar at a pub then left?
But really, if you've left your phone unattended whether locked or not
a) you'll be bloody lucky to ever see it again
b) due to point a, whether someone has changed or remove your lock code/pattern is a minor concern.
Re: What's on the screen?
Indeed! Hadn't considered that as they seem an unusual shape, but they do in fact seem to match up with the end of the fluorescent tube reflections.
Have an up vote.
Re: Linux support... well, who can say?
I wasn't suggesting the reviewer spend time struggling to get it to work if it didn't, or indeed spend any time becoming overly familiar with Linux in order to test it. As you say the number of people it would affect or who would care is not particularly large.
What I was suggesting was that he download an installer and at least get as far as seeing if the device is presented as a location to install to if it didn't immediately work, then fine. With a distro like Ubuntu this requires little more than the ability to follow a simple GUI, a level of computer literacy any author on an IT news site should have as this one clearly does.
He could even have not mentioned Linux support leaving the question unraised. But what he did do instead was say "who can say?" indicating that there's no way he could possibly know.
What's on the screen?
In the photos illustrating the reflective nature of the screen it looks like it's scratched or there's something stuck to it in a couple of places.
Re: Linux support... well, who can say?
I was about to comment in this vein.
Frankly the author's comment of "who can say?" is utter crap, and shows a lack of effort.
All you need do is download Ubuntu/Mint?Debian/Fedora or any one of the many other popular free distros and boot up, see if it gives you the option to install to the device.
Sure that's not going to give a full compatibility chart of what kernels and distros are supported, but it's a hell of a lot more insightful than "who can say?"
Who can say? Anyone who is given one of the device to review who has an internet connection, a DVD burner, a spare blank disc and an ounce of initiative. That's who.
Oh and to the AC, why should a Linux using reader have to buy one to find out when El Reg could of tested it with the minor effort indicated above?
Out of date
Am I the only one wondering why they're using Windows Phone 7 and not 8?
Windows Phone 8 was released over a year ago and I would be rather surprised if it wasn't available to this Microsoft team before that.
Re: Good job Iain-Duckegg-Smith doesn't work at Tescos.
"the last entry on his CV of life"
The pedantic grammar Nazi in me wishes to point out that "CV of life" is a tautology.
I used to make strained and/or forced references to Skyrim like this, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Re: Dear Article Author
@Ian Michael Gumby
"glaze the target for range"
I fail to see how coating the target in sugar helps to establish range.
Only to be expected....
...but not for the reason a lot of people are thinking.
It's not that tablets and BYOD etc. is reducing the need for PCs (though admittedly that does play some role).
It's simply that in the old days (by old days I mean a period between 5 and 15 years ago) computer software was leaping ahead of the software in such a way that when a new Office package or new OS came out having newer hardware was more necessity.
It's really the advent of true dual core CPUs that caused this. With Intel Core 2 and more so the Core i-series CPU load has been less of a problem even a first generation i3 or i5 will happily handle most tasks in Windows XP through to Windows 8 without issue.
My main desktop machine is couple of years old first generation i3, with a fair chunk of RAM, and I can't see a desperate need to change it for a couple more years yet.
For admin/clerical type staff this even more the case, Windows 7 or 8 with Office 2007 - 2013 are absolutely no trouble.
Sales are more likely to come in bursts, as far as corporate purchases go, during the next 5 - 10 years. Mainly machines being replaced as they go out of warranty more than because they are under spec.
Re: Low power PC
I concur though not with the mac mini part.
A mini itx integrated motherboard and cpu like an amd e-350 based solution plus case and disks would cost less and perform better with a similar power profile to the NAS device.
Install Windows, a proper Linux distro or a prebuilt Linux based NAS OS and you'll have a lovely home server.
Re: The nanny state minding people's own business again?
"Right, so who is going to carry out said radical unnecessary treatment?"
It is my understanding that there are a great many plastic surgeons, particularly in the good old US of A, who will do things like a double mastectomy simple because you asked and have the money to pay.
Or the person might have a GP who is an old quack and takes the fancy genetic testing results at face value and gives a prescription.
I'm not suggesting in either of the above cases that the fault does not lie with doctor rather than 23andme, but regardless the situation could still occur.
Re: The nanny state minding people's own business again?
It's not really about it being government approved information, it's about misleading or confusing people into thinking they are or will become seriously ill by providing an improperly explained genetic testing service without unbiased medical advice.
The service is sold as a method of finding out if you have or could be at risk from various serious medical conditions. But the results provided are likely to scare people into radical unnecessary treatment because they are presented as answers not just indicators, without proper medical advice.
I'm not a fan of governments controlling everything or restricting information, but ensuring important things like medical care and testing aren't improperly advertised/represented and come with suitably qualified advice, , that is something they definitely should be doing.
The main problem is really just down to marketing here. 23andme are over emphasising the reliability and importance of their tests. They need to go to much greater lengths to explain that the tests are just suggestive indicators and not guarantees of immunity or death from certain conditions. Perhaps where there are any potentially serious results advise or even provide proper medical consultation from a doctor.
This is where regulation would be a good idea, to ensure proper unbiased medical advice.
I would use their service if it were available in this country, but really more for curiosity than medical paranoia.
Re: First Direct 'Secure Keys'
Been using this for some time with HSBC, they brought it in a while ago.
I have to say apart from the inconvenience of having and forgetting/leaving at home my SecureKey instead of just memorising my passwords and codes, I don't see a problem. (with the physical SecureKey anyway, HSBC don't do the app version).
The key is only of use to someone who steals/finds it if they guess your PIN which is 4-6 digits, so it's at least as secure as your credit/debit card. The PIN can be reset using the answers to your security questions sure, but the same can be said for phoning them up and claiming to have forgotton your phone banking password. The solution here is to make the answers to your security questions lies, that you only use with HSBC/FD. (For instance saying your favourite author is Oolon Colluphid and that your grandfather was called Hig Hurtenflurst).
The biggest problem I've found is that so far I've broken the LCD on my key 3 times and had to get a replacement, and been unable to access my online banking in the meantime.
"Apple told El Reg in a statement"
They're talking to you these days then?
Improper definition of distance.
On the first page the article says " but at its nearest Mars is less than 35 million miles (54.6 million kilometres) away".
This is not an appropriate way to describe a distance.
My keyboard is less than 35 million miles away from me.
My local supermarket is also less than 35 million miles away.
The Earth's moon is also less than 35 million miles away.
Does that mean they are all also a comparable distance to Mars?
Saying "a little less than 35 million miles" or "just under 35 million miles" or "approximately 35 million miles" are all significantly more accurate (though still not very specific) than saying "less than 35 million miles", which by definition includes all values between 0 and 34,999,999.999...
Re: Honest opinion?
Isn't there HTML5 for this sort of thing?
<IMHO>If not there bloody well should be!</IMHO>
Winamp has some useful features, like being able to specify the audio device to use. Means my primary playback device in Windows can be my headphones while Winamp uses another output to play to my amp.
Windows Media Player certainly can't do that, not can any of the streaming services mentioned in the article.
VLC can but is hardly a suitable music library player.
Can anyone suggest a good free alternative to Winamp that can do the same thing?
Sell! Sell! Sell!
Now is the time to sell MSFT shares, while the value is up.
If Elop gets the job the shares will be worthless inside 1 - 2 years.
Note: I am not a financial advisor.
"Hmmm and now try get a column containing 000846383 to load as text from a CSV."
No problem, when opening a CSV Excel asks you what format you want each column to be, if you actually pay attention to each page of the wizard.
Re: Choices choices choices
"can it really get any worse anyway ?"
Yes, by Elop getting it. Compare track records.
Ballmer while not actually causing much success at Microsoft hasn't actually overseen any complete failures either (Windows 8 doesn't count, some people like it and Server 2012 is good). The company is still intact and profitable.
Elop wasn't especially successful at Microsoft the first time round, and his time at Nokia spelled the end of it's most major division.
Keeping the boat afloat, but staying still.
Deciding the boat doesn't need a hull and throwing bits of it away, and insisting you were right as it sinks.
console vs PC
"Why not get the superior experience that the PS4, Xbox One or a top-spec PC will most certainly provide?"
Why not? Simple really, playing an FPS game with a controller pad instead of a keyboard and mouse is rather like having sex while wearing 3 duffle coats. Clumsy, unnatural and imprecise.
Re: I don't get it...
Actually some people do....Adobe didn't but they did store their user passwords in a reversably encrypted way along with password hints.
Please see the relevant xkcd strip and its explain page.
IANAL but I would of thought giving someone else your Facebook password ( or any other credentials to a computer system) was actually against the law, under Computer Misuse act.
Your Facebook account is a set of credentials for your own use on a private companies service. Certainly it is a service that allows you to make information public, but the account and the equipment it runs on belong to a third party, and your access to it is at their discretion.
Giving your details to another person without the permission of Facebook would constitute you facilitating unauthorised access to Facebook's systems, and your prospective employers use of said credentials would be unauthorised access itself.
In fact (and even more IANAL here), isn't asking someone to commit a crime for you actually a crime of solicitation? Possibly even blackmail if the situation is actually "commit this crime or we won't employ you".
If I were asked to handover passwords to any systems the person asking did not own, be it a service like Facebook or a more private system, I would refuse to do so on the above grounds.
Re: Computer misue act ?
"Does doing it while working for the government make it OK ?"
Short answer, yes.
"This is different from going to war and killing people while you do it."
No not really it isn't.
Troops can be on patrol defending an area without being at war, and these "cyber troops" will be conducting defence as well as offense.
Equally, if those troops on a defence patrol see a horde of people with guns coming toward them they aren't going to wait for a government debate on whether to get into a fight or not. They will neutralise the immediate threat, identify the origin of the attack and then wait for higher ups to decide whether to retaliate further.
I see the same happening with the cyber warfare unit. A cyber attack is initiated against some UK based thing, the cyber unit counters and neutralises the source of the attack and passes on details to higher ups. They may then get ordered to carry out an attack against the known perpetrators.
Re: Hiring convicted hackers
I don't think they're necessarily hiring them because of the knowledge and skills they have now, more because they have demonstrated an understanding of the field and can be trained to be better at it.
Not to mention being sufficiently interested in the field to risk going to jail for it.
Regardless of who is at fault, I don't think it counts as being screwed by fine print, when you're a large national (in some cases multi-national) corporation who employees lawyers to read the fine print.
As pointed out in the article, they all knew this was coming years in advance.
Re: TCP/IP has been multi-path from the git-go.
With regards to having wired and WiFi on a Windows machine at the same time....
If you go into control panel to where you see your list of network adapters (not describing the path because it varies by Windows version) then go to the advanced menu (alt and N if you can't see the menu) and then Advanced Settings, you can see the list of connections and the order they are used in. Priority is top down, so the connection at the top is used first if connected.
Presumably a similar option exists on Macs and *nix OSs though I'm not sure of what/where off hand.
Re: @Phil W (was@ Eugene Crosser (was: TCP/IP has been multi-path from the git-go.))
Ummm no. Just no.
Admittedly there are certain situations where the OSI model isn't accurate or doesn't apply, but it is still the fundamental core of networking particularly TCP/IP based networking (which is the majority of all networking).
It is particularly relevant when comparing TCP an Multipath TCP. If you don't see how I suggest you go and get some education/training. I'd suggest a CCNA, but frankly it sounds like you may need to start out a little more basic than that.
Re: @ Eugene Crosser (was: TCP/IP has been multi-path from the git-go.)
I suspect some people here are missing the fundamental difference between an application managing multiple single TCP sessions in software and treating them as one, and actual Multipath TCP in the network stack on the OS presenting a single stream up the stack.
The functional difference is like you putting a conversation together from hand written letters and e-mails that are all intermingled, and someone doing this for you and presenting you with the completed conversation.
In the first case you (the application, or essentially anything above Layer 5 in the OSI model), know who the data came from and that the data has come to you via different routes and you also have to reassemble to the data in the right order.
In the second case you just get handed a complete data set and you know who it's from, but don't necessarily know or even need to know how it got to you.
Where is the BNC 10BASE2 ThinEthernet connector? How am I supposed to connect this to my network!?!
Your statement doesn't seem to make an awful lot of sense, may it's just me?
If you don't have time to watch tv much, then why do you have a paid subscription to Virgin Media with a TiVo box? (which costs significantly more than a Netflix subscription).
I watch a fair amount of TV, both through VM and with Netflix on using my Blu-Ray player's smart features, as I rarely actually use it to play discs this is potentially a helpful move to me.
In all fairness...
...I don't think anyone has ever discounted a truely similar product by such a significant amount before so there really isn't anything they could of compared to.
Assuming the figures in the article are correct, perhaps 10 to 20 times normal sales was a bit conservative, but even if they had estimated 50-60 times normal sales it would only have been half the actual response.
Re: "one has to wonder"
As I understand it this can sort of be done already, by having some on premises Lync servers, connected to Office 365 externally and a SIP-PSTN gateway internally.
Though why you would do that rather than doing a full Lync on-premises deployment with a SIP-PSTN gateway I'm not sure.
Cost difference perhaps.
Paid in kind
Next thing you know they'll be taxing charities based on how much they help people, as it is payment in kindness
Joke Alert, although I wouldn't be that shocked to see it actually happen.
"Directioners" describe One Direction
"WE SPENT HOURS GETTING THIS SONG TO NUMBER 1 IN TURDY SEVEN COUNTRIES, TOUCH IT AND YOU DIE"
Turdy? Like the 'music' that they produce?
Re: My attempt at a poor analogy
Isn't it more like posting naked pictures of yourself to your girlfriend/boyfriend at the house they share, but not bothering to put a name on the envelope? Thus exposing yourself (and your massive stupidity) to all the people at that address, and probably everyone they know.
Outcome deeply embarrassing for the sender!
Re: Is it Lenovo?
HP and Dell kit isn't inherently bad but with their kit you either get cheap tat or expensive quality. Lenovo generally seem to manage good quality and good price. I have a Dell XPS which is good but wasn't cheap, friends have Inspirons which are pretty poor.
I've had a couple of affordable laptops from Lenovo that were both exceptional spec for their price and built more solidly than any other major brand at anything close to that price point.
I'm writing this post on a Lenovo a2109 Android tablet which again is a fantastic mix of spec/build quality/price.
Re: 1.6% and they want to cut jobs...ok.
@MyBackDoor "2,000,000,000 billion internet users"
Have cats,dogs and other animals started using the internet now to, or is it aliens?
Can't be humans, since there aren't 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 people in the world.
I would of thought very nearly all of the people who will want/need Datacenter R2 will be SA subscribers anyway so I can't see how this is going to make them all that much cash.
Re: Genuine question...
"And presumably you'll have to report yourself and you'll get defenestrated for wasting police time."
Is it not the case that the police have recently prosecuted people for this due them having become aware of it, without the recipient complaining? I thought I had read that this occured, but I may be mistaken.
...if I have two twitter accounts and I use one to threaten myself with violence on the other, can I be arrested for it?
"Joke Alert" because while this is a genuine question I would like to know the answer to, it's obviously not to be taken seriously.
I beleive in both the case of iOS and Android, these slide into camera functions only work with with the "slide to unlock" type locks i.e. the ones that are to stop accidental button pressing rather than providing any security.
This patent on the other hand is for doing it from a security lock screen.
Another neat spin on this would be to have PIN unlock, with multiple PINs where each one unlocks the phone and launches a different app.
Re: THIS IS NOT PATENTABLE
Seems patent worthy to me, especially compared to some of the stuff that does get patented.
It's a method for making an unlock mechanism do something more than just unlock. It get's you to where you want to be after you unlock.
Like a key lock in a door that when turned a particular way also turns on the lights in your house and puts the kettle on.
While it seems obvious it's more the kind of obvious where once you've seen it doesn't seem that innovative, instead of the kind of obvious where everyone had already thought of it but just not bothered to do it/patent it. Also for a nice change, there is no prior art for this, that I've ever seen anyway.
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