Re: RE: multi-billion PR company
HP would manage it so badly that it would only be worth $100 by the time the ink has dried on the contract.
This being HP, the ink to print that contract would have cost more than that.
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HP would manage it so badly that it would only be worth $100 by the time the ink has dried on the contract.
This being HP, the ink to print that contract would have cost more than that.
senior-developer levels of facial hare
Facial hare? The guy's name must be Warren.
This really Bugs me.
Ken Hagan Just block the outgoing connections. Too much (ongoing) effort? Well...
It's a market opportunity for someone who already has blacklisting software and who already maintains the blacklists that drive it. Of course, that would require the AV companies to grow a pair and actually take on Microsoft, so I won't hold my breath.
A sensible suggestion from a technical perspective, but this is just mitigation of the core problem; we/the IDS vendors shouldn't have to patch around Microsoft's arrogance and thirst for data.
An analogy: you have a car that, despite the manufacturer's assurance that it's clean, pumps out unexpectedly high levels of emissions. Is it for the manufacturer to fix? Or is it a great business opportunity to sell giant bin-bags that tape over the tailpipe and catch most of the fumes?
/me marvels at my brilliance
/me rushes off to register VAGbags.com
/me realises that it sounds far too rude
You were already saying that about Vista, weren't you ?
Silly Pascal, don't feed the troll. Wrestling with pigs, and all that.
Besides, "technophile" == "one who loves technology"... ow, what a cruel insult. Ouch. Sorry, but I'll gladly accept that description.
And it's surely because we love technology that we despise the marketroids and social media onanists who're systematically gutting the concept of PC-as-open-platform and turning it into PC-as-Telescreen.
JoS:The privacy setting controls not being located in one control panel item is telling. "We are purposely making this as difficult as possible."
Yep. You can always tell, these days, when a software vendor really wants you to do something - and when they don't.
Annoying in-your-face pop-ups, with no obvious way to disable them:
"OS 9.01 is now available for your iPhone" / "Click here to reserve your copy of Windows 10" / "Click here to switch on OneDrive"...
... a sure sign that <whatever> is for the vendor's benefit, not yours.
Having to apply an arcane Policy, or edit the Registry in 47 different places, or apply commandline incantations to turn something off...
... equally, a sure sign that <whatever> is something that benefits you, but not them.
And both cases give them plausible deniability: "We don't force people to upgrade to the new OS" / "We don't force people to install Skype"... nope, technically users can disable <behaviour X>, but you make life as feckin' difficult and obnoxious as possible until people give in and drink your kool-aid.
Bunch of pempsliders, the lot of them.
I'm in a foul mood at the moment and need a drink. Or several.
I very much want a 'personalised experience' from my PC. But I want it the way I decide and not the way some software decides I want it.
Yes! This! A thousand times, this!
Personalised is good. But let me be the one doing the personalisation.
Having "smart" software agents on the PC trying to decide what I want is ineffective at best, and downright creepy at worst.
Having software agents back in the Microsoft mothership trying to decide what I want is... nope nope nope nope nope. Do not want. And I feel exactly the same way if you substitute Google/Apple/Adobe/whoever, so don't think I'm playing unfavourites.
Upvoted. Have a pint, too.
And I'm gonna keep on lovin' you
'Cause it's the only thing I wanna do
I don't wanna sleep, I just wanna keep on lovin' you
I now have that song stuck in my head. Confound you! *shakes fist*
I don't know what you have to feel sorry for.
I apologized, because I can't shake the feeling that I am different and strange for not "getting" this new model of computing. As I said in a post passim, I might be "that one soldier on the parade ground compaining that the other 99 soldiers are out of step". Microsoft are selling - OK, giving away - colossal numbers of Windows 10 licenses, so there's obviously many, many people in the world who don't share my opinion & concerns.
Do I come across as the guy in this icon? --->
...buggrit, millennium hand and shrimp, I tole 'em, I tole 'em...
I'm starting to think they actually believe this stuff.
...although he did admit that the OS does regularly phone home by default...
How the flip did we get to a situation where having an OS "regularly phone home by default" is not seen as blatant, get-the-torches-and-pitchforks-out, what-the-feck behaviour?
"We collect a limited amount of information to help us provide a secure and reliable experience. This includes data like an anonymous device ID, device type, and application crash data which Microsoft and our developer partners use to continuously improve application reliability,"
Well, that sounds lovely and cuddly. Switch it off by default and I'm sure everyone will switch it on immediately by choice, cos it's so amazing, right? Right?
Myerson said enterprise customers will be able to disable collection of telemetry data – once the long-fabled enterprise features for Windows 10 are delivered later this year, that is – but added that "we strongly recommend against this."
Mmm. And IT/Legal/Compliance departments the world over will "strongly recommend" that Microsoft take their collection of telemetry data, and shove it up their named pipes.
Incidentally, can we stop using the fluffy euphemism "telemetry"? Call a spade a spade. It's wholesale spying and monitoring and slurping of every aspect of our lives. And let's stop with this sly, subtle implication that anyone who doesn't want this is in some way paranoid, or strange, or has something to hide. You might be happy to live in a Panopticon. I sure as feck am NOT.
Look, Microsoft. If I want data-logging, or social media integration, or any "digital assistant" wankery, I will install an application to provide that. Don't put it in the operating system and tell me I'm stupid for wanting to disable it. The job of the OS is to run basic services and provide a standardised set of interfaces for applications - nothing more.
Rant over. Sorry. *wipes frothing spittle from mouth*
From the fine article:
"I'm going to begin back in the 1930s, before most of us were alive...
Remember punched cards; ..."
I'm sure it wasn't the intention, but that sentence seems to imply that punched cards per se date back to the 1930s. If so, try looking up "Jacquard Loom", and be impressed at the ingenuity of the early 1800s - I know I was, wot wiv me being of poor edumacation an' all.
But yes, you're right, the 1930s is about when the technology was repurposed for control of digital data-processing devices - via Hollerith in the 1890s and so on!
Oh, they're cooking with gas?
I knew there had to be some reason for the strong aroma of methane I've been detecting around those products.
There were Vyolynne's, Trum's and Base too
Vyo Lynne was Jeff's emotional younger brother. Very highly strung.
On the article topic, I'm waiting for build 8675309.
Yes. If you want the new version of Office, give Microsoft a ring.
Re: "Personal" computer no more
A trillion UpVotes for that! I'd buy you an entire KEG if I were close enough to shoulder-surf you to the pub & drown you in Pints.
Epicly Well Put!
Shucks. Thanks. If you're ever in northern Oregon I'll take you up on that beer offer. We can drown our sorrows and reminisce about the Good Old Days when computing was fun, when PCs were a platform for exploration and learning, rather than a constrained and straitjacketed ad-delivery device. BTW seems like I have a good start on that trillion upvotes... I certainly touched a nerve with my cri de coeur!
windows 10 ate my hamster
And the telemetry will rat you out.
You'll be souris you ever installed it.
(Sorry, can't decide if I'm feeding a troll or not, but it's light relief from my We're-All-Dooooomed comments above)
Thank you all for your kind words and upvotes (I've reciprocated, in a round of mutual back-slapping). It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my concerns.
Rationally, I understand that all of this is just a necessary part of the evolution of the computer - it's moved on from being a hobby project for nerds, to being an appliance that underpins every aspect of modern life. Interconnected, with the potential, if hijacked or subverted, to ruin lives worldwide. In fact "appliance" is an apt comparison - we don't complain any more that we can't take apart our washing machines and upgrade them, or our microwaves, or our cars. We've made all of those things reliable, safe, dependable, so that anyone can use them without having to have a degree in electronics or mechanical engineering. Yet here I am, in an age of fuel-injection, bemoaning the fact that I can no longer balance my own carburetors. I am - we are - swimming upstream against the inevitable flow of technology. We're the one soldier on the parade ground, complaining that the other 99 soldiers are out of step. It's depressing.
I just don't get excited about new computing technology any more. Ironic, because I work for one of the largest technology companies on the planet.
It's no longer a case of "ooh, something new and interesting has launched, I wonder what I can do with it?". Rather, it's "Oh, an upgraded set of handcuffs that now have always-on tracking and tagging. But I get to choose their colour. Yay."
And as several of you have suggested, I am already moving to various Linux flavours. I built my own NAS based on Ubuntu (yeah, don't laugh, it just happened to have the most "how to set up NFS/Time Machine/DLNA/RAID-1" guides available for it), and any new machines that enter my house get Cinnamon Mint.
Oh well. I'm sure I'll learn to live with all of this.
"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark mustache. O cruel needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving beast. Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
I've been struggling to articulate just what it is about Windows 10 that bothers me, without seeming like a total luddite. But I think it's this: their default assumption seems to be that it's not my computer, it's their computer, that I'm allowed to use according to their whim.
Up until about 2-3 years ago, my computers were under my control - a small oasis of control in a world in which I'm largely powerless and my ability to live my life as I see fit is being systematically stripped away. I want to uninstall an app? "No problem." Decline an update? "No problem." Delete the entire C:\windows\system32 folder? "Dumb, but hey, if you're determined - no problem, we won't stop you." Point was, it was my computer, and I could do what I wanted with it. Technology was an enabler and the possibilities were endless.
But from Windows 8 onwards, it seems that the entire direction of computing is moving back to centralized, paternalistic, "we-know-what's-best-for-you" control. Cloud storage. Cloud logins. UAC. Administrator-doesn't-really-mean-Administrator. Enforced updates. Downloading a whole new OS just-in-case-you-want-it-but-if-not-we'll-continue-to-nag-you. Secure Boot that somehow only seems to benefit Microsoft. Constant logging - sorry, I mean "telemetry". Safe Screen a.k.a. "we'll inspect everything you download to make sure we approve of it". Technology seems to be defined in terms of what it grudgingly allows you to do, with the approval of the Powers That Be. And it's a whole lot worse with Windows 10.
It's not just Microsoft; Google, Apple, and pretty much all the big players seem to be enthusiastically moving in this direction. An analogy would be: we've moved from the traditional liberal "everything is permitted unless it's expressly forbidden" model of rights, to the totalitarian "everything is forbidden unless it's expressly permitted". And I hate it.
Pardon my rant. Dismiss it as hyperbole or pretentiousness if you wish. It's just my primal scream of rage and frustration against an IT world that I no longer fit or understand.
"No just the opposite. Made her yelp."
A deliquent boy from a broken home squanders his own mother's meagre wealth on "magic beans", breaks into a pensioner's house, steals his things, and kills the unfortunate victim when confronted.
You remind me of the - possibly apocryphal - summary of The Wizard of Oz once printed in a TV listings magazine, which IIRC went:
"Transported to a new land, a young girl kills the first person she meets then teams up with three strangers to kill again"
Yak porn anyone?
For those that are bi-son curious?
Alpaca bag and get out of here.
████ ██████.████ █████████ █████ ███████ ██████
Yes, but did the goat die?
Oh come on! Don't have a cow!
Charolais you can't be serious.
(Ok, ok, I admit I'm scraping the barrel now. Enough.)
Enough with the cheesy jokes!
Au lait off them you mean?
I also feel behooven to point out that only cattle low.
You're going to milk this for all it's worth, aren't you?
Over time people who care influence those that do not (or to a lesser degree).
Indeed. Is it fair to say that the Reg commentards tend to be IT influencers, either within their companies or at least their families/friends?
At the risk of sounding insufferably pompous, I am the "go to" person for IT questions for my relatives, friends, and many of my colleagues. Whatever my opinion - right or wrong - that'll be their guidance. So as I'm lukewarm on Windows 10, that means a whole circle of other people have inherited the same attitude. Probably 30-40 people in total are now putting their Windows 10 updates on hold, based on my "wait and see" guidance.
My point is that.. yes, you can argue that we are unrepresentative of the market at large. That we're nerds, whiners, ivory-tower techies, or whatever. But we do often have a disproportionate amount of influence.
As I've said before, I think Microsoft's biggest and earliest mistake was to allow Windows 10 feedback from only those beta-testers who agreed to sign in with a Microsoft ID. Then and there, they excluded feedback from anyone who might have concerns about privacy and data-gathering. So now the OS is released, all this fuss is kicking up, and Microsoft - let's give them the benefit of the doubt - are sitting there wondering "why are so many people upset? We never had any inkling of this during the beta phase!"
D'oh. In my rush to make a Funny I got my TLAs confused.
Thanks for the correction. Technically correct - the best kind of correct.
For myself, having just nslookup'd nsatc.net with a bunch of different public dns's, from both home and work, I find they all resolve to 127.0.0.1 (!)
Is this new?
Depends. Are you posting from Langley, Virginia?
c.f. Silverlight, the monthly security scanner tool (no option that says "I don't want to ever run this tool, not this month, not next month either"), etc.
And the other factor, one that people never seem to take into account when complaining about the expense of Apple kit, is that resale/residual values tend to be very high.
Take my wife's old iMac for example - 24", 2007. Still fetching upwards of 250 quid on eBay. Not that it matters, because it still works very well and seems perfectly speedy - I just updated Bootcamp from XP to Windows 7. Last I checked, a PC of that age would be landfill.
So yes, the Apple tax is painful, but at least you get a goodly chunk of it back when you sell.
Pardon my pedantry, but the phrase is "Lo and behold".
And I agree with your comment.
No doubt all three of these are described in the Windows Update client as "Resolves issues with Windows" or something equally vague.
Yes, obviously any IT administrator worthy of the name should be carefully evaluating and analysing every WU patch to determine its relevance, but it's getting to the point that every home user and their grandma has to do the same. Gone are the days when one could reflexively hit "install all", with the assumtion that Newer Code = Better; simply can't trust the patches to be for your benefit rather than Microsoft's any more. Yes, you could argue that "well, anyone sensible should be evaluating and carefully reading every patch anyway"...but no, home users have more important things to worry about. To use an analogy, I don't have to carefully read the small print before & after taking my car for it's scheduled service, just in case the dealership decided to install a data-logger for their benefit.
It's not so much the data-slurping, it's the fact that Microsoft seem to be going out of their way to do it in as sneaky and surreptitious way as possible, handing ammunition to the privacy nuts and haters. I mean, if it's all so innocent, why not be more up-front about it?
Seems unfair to blame Snowden - the blame surely lies with the various countries' spy agencies and their all-your-data-is-belong-to-us attitude.
All Snowden did was make it very, very clear what was going on. It's up to each of us now to make the judgement call - either "eh, everyone spies on everyone else, it's a fact of life, deal with it"... or "store my valuable data in the cloud? Why wouldn't I just save time and mail it directly to GCHQ/NSA/...? No way José!" according to preference/paranoia level.
I've tried several times to parse the title of this article, but I can't make any sense of it whatsoever.
At! least! it! wasn't! one! of! those! tedious! Yahoo! headlines!
HP still does not have the WiGig stuff.
The HP 1011 X2 G1 does - it's a Core M based detachable 2-in-1 with vPro and 802.11ad (WiGig).
Works wonderfully with the HP Advanced Wireless Dock.
I've done extensive testing of WiDock on this hardware combination; ask me if you need any more info.
The music video was Edie Brickell and New Bohemians singing Good Times.
Also Weezer - Buddy Holly - if I recall correctly, that was on the Windows 95 Plus Pack CD, or maybe it was on the CD edition of Windows 95 itself?
The animator Bill Plympton did a Windows 95 spot too:
Again, I think that was on the Plus Pack CD.
But it voids the warranty. And also, does it support MBR booting over USB or just UEFI/GPT?
I checked on an ICS I have here. UEFI only. Secure boot can be disabled, but no (apparent) provision for installing new keys - only re-installing the Intel platform key.
Personally I think it more resembles a Kazoo.
My dog thanks you both for your kind job offers, but has asked me to point out that my original comment was merely an attempt at a droll observation on the similarity between any given Perl script and random keyboard-mashing gibberish.
Besides, I don't think he's cut out for a programming job - being a labrador, he's smelly, hairy, tends to drool and slobber a lot, is wildly enthusiastic about any random crap he finds, has no social skills, and wants to hump everything in sight.
Oh, wait. Never mind.
I considered one of these for the downstairs wall-mounted TV to keep things tidy, but how do you press the power button when needed?
I believe there's a BIOS switch to "power on when AC power is restored" (or words to that effect), so you can switch it on and off with the TV power.
Sounds like a result tome....
Typo? Or inadvertent witticism?
"Is he on the no-fly list? Did he fail the security screening? Come to me, my TSA minions! Bring me the *dun-dun-dun* Result Tome! Or the Bad People Grimoire! Or the Once-Unfavorably-Compared-Us-To-The-Stasi Palimpsest!"
Yeah but how many of those 5000 were you running a Perl script?
My dog just stepped heavily on the keyboard. It's entirely possible he just wrote that Perl script.
Could Intel explain why they have to produce a separate, crippled hardware version for Linux ? To me it would seem much more efficient to manufacture one single hardware model and load any OS they might please since it's no big deal.
Embedded / digital signage customers who want the lowest possible cost and won't pay for extra flash storage or RAM that they're not going to use (kind of a big deal if you're buying thousands of these things).
It's not about "crippled hardware for Linux" - if you want to run (a supported variant of) Linux on the better unit, there's nothing stopping you. As I mentioned in a comment above, the "Windows 8.1 for Bing" edition on the ICS is provided by Microsoft at no cost to OEMs (AFAIK), so you need have no worry that by purchasing the 32GB/2GB unit and subsequently installing Linux, you're still contributing to Microsoft's coffers.
Don't loose your temper over it (he said with baited breathe).
I could care less.
Note for the sarcasm-impaired: there are 4 deliberate spelling/phrase errors above, agreeing with David Lawrence and Ru' and parodying the diabolical standard of written English on the intertubes. If, and only if you find more than 4, then feel free to laugh at me.
It's Windows Home with Bing set as the default search engine and in a couple of other places. The supposed subsequent search traffic/revenue to Microsoft allows them to offer the OS free-as-in-beer to OEMs for small, low power devices (I think the criteria are something like "2GB ram or less, up to 32GB storage").
1) no "windows tax" on this device
2) there's nothing to stop you setting the search back to Google/DDG/whatever, or installing Firefox, or even zapping the OS and installing some variant of Linux.
As someone mentioned briefly above, the BIOS has a "Boot OS" option which offers only Windows 8.1 32bit or Ubuntu (14.04 LTS x64, IIRC). I suspect that is because those are the only two SecureBoot keys present. Whether you can disable SB or install new keys, or indeed whether that BIOS option affects the Boot OS in some other way, I haven't checked. Can find out if anyone's interested.
Plus they have threatened to throw me out of the cross dressing, furries rubber ropes and and manacles flower arranging club
"Oh my, Vicar. Such a delightful arrangement of dahlias. And what an unusual place to put them.
Is it not a little uncomfortable?"
And in the first generation we saw the WiFi and the Bluetooth interfere with each other which resulted in lags in one or the other.
Fixed by a BIOS update, in case anyone is reading this article and thinking "I tried the ICS and the wifi performance was dire".
i knew airwaves were powerful but this is amazing news
Yeah, he was probably on Werthers Originals before, hence the upgrade to Mint.
the new T&Cs “respect individual privacy and don’t require a law degree to read”.
What part of "sell your soul to the devil" do you not understand?
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
Snooping on you respects your privacy.
Windows 10. It's doubleplusgood (...for governments).
In hindsight, the first clue for us was when the "My Computer" icon got renamed after Windows 7.
It's not "My Computer" any more, it's Microsoft's, to do with as they will. I just get to use it, by their good grace.
Cavemen also use tar & make
Thag not like tar. Tar trap Thag pet mammoth. Tar make Thag angry.
Thag thump hard drive wit' club to make bit patterns.
How Thag do shell? Bash.
Don't worry Tim. I'm pretty sure that in this case "abusive" means "doesn't accord with my political prejudices".
Mean old Tories do things "for ideological reasons" whereas the cuddly Left do things "because we're principled".