69 posts • joined 29 Jan 2010
So...when MS had the chance to do things differently on different hardware, when they released their first tablet in 2002, they absolutely missed it. The motion for opening menu and clicking on sub-menus, as you so succinctly shared, was brought over from the desktop...
...and we saw how great that worked!
Re: What the hell did they expect?
"... there's a good chance those Win8 boxes were purchased but immediately wiped clean and had a fresh install of Win7 in its place."
Mine had a fresh new Linux Mint install, instead. I have been free from MS's we-know-what's-best-for-you since 2006.
Re: Cloud OS
Sorry about the name, my lovely wife is a Potts, out of habit, I guess.
Mind you, I am not an IT specialist, barely a network user. Just seemed like what you were describing was MS combining the work of the "os" and the local machine along with the server, as you said:
"This is an operating system that gives you a single point of management and a single layer of APIs, storage interface and what-have-you stretching from your server closet to the local service provider to Microsoft's Azure data centres around the world."
To me, in a way, like Chrome OS allows doing everything in one browser layer. That was my comparison.
You can ease your mind...its just the way mine works...
Isn't this as if a Microsoft took the "Chrome OS" idea, moved if off the local machine and would run it instead on Microsoft servers naming it Cloud OS?
That's how it sounded to me. Mr. Potts, what am I misunderstanding?
Why is it...?
...that Linux specific problems (like the wifi router fail) have that OS' name prominent, but this one does not have Windows or Microsoft attached to it at all?
Re: Rather strange
Linux is not a security hazard compared to windows, no matter what the age, as long as the updates are available and current.
The sharing of files and file types is easier through Linux, because Linux was built on the Internet, using standards and knowing it needed to share to be usable. Either use the older MSOffice formats or pdf to share to most other OS'.
With Linux being used more and more in the scientific, server, military, 96% of the top 500 supercomputers, and of course on the majority of mobile systems, it is the OS to know going into the future.
Re: I can't see Elop being the right man for the job
Elop, instead of taking Nokia onto more of the mobile stage by using as many of the available OSes as possible, ditched all and chose one, WP. Some say it is too early to judge the outcome, but it appears to have been so-so, at best.
So now, he would heave Office onto each and every OS available?
He is not being consistent.
Unless, it is to be consistently MS focused, and the tech is already re-calibrating its view of that dinosaur.
Lightzone - lightroom replacement - free and open source
LightZone is a free, open source digital photo editor software application. It was originally developed as commercial software by the now-defunct Light Crafts. Its main purpose is to handle the workflow when handling images in various RAW formats. It is comparable to Adobe Systems's Photoshop Lightroom. (from widipedia)
Available for linux, osx and windows.
win for me?
win for me?
Have an older friend (70+) who returned a new win8 laptop less than a week after purchase (coming from XP), came back from the store with a laptop with win7 installed.
Now, a month later, having problems with and doesn't like the new MSOffice (ribbon interface). Helped go through an install of LibreOffice today. "This is better than the Office I paid for! I like it."
Now, maybe she'll take a look at Linux... as her win7 is also bogging down.
... which would make a lie of two more "strengths" of Ballmer's
Re: Wait, hear that?
,,,but MS is responsible for the extended XP's life when they kept it going to 'save' the netbook line from the 'evil cancer,' Linux. (Vista was too bloated to fit the limits of the netbook's hardware.)
So put the blame on MS for this length of service time!
BTW, if you know someone with an XP box, offer them a dual-boot with a modern Linux; Mint, Ubuntu, or any of the top distros. Using wine, much of their windows games and programs can still but used and run ... or they may discover that the Linux programs are valiant replacements, and many of those already installed with the Linux distro.
My grandson and I met a docent at the Air Force Museum in Dayton who had been an SR-71 driver. My grandson asked if anyone ever had to eject from one, and he had! Not everyone survives such an event he assured us.
Everything else, the leaking fuel, the long, long flights, the glowing of skin at speed just added to the allure.
Re: Cliché alert
"The fruity firm now finds itself directly in confection with the Chocolate Factory"
That was 'sweet' of me to fix that for you.
"Maybe in a few years ...
"Maybe in a few years when we get to Windows 8 tablets being a third or 40 per cent of tablet volume ...
Yeah, right ...
Re: When you look at it it's actually pretty stupid...
I've told you a "gazillion" times to not exaggerate!
Thanks for playing...
no nukes is good nukes?
...but therein lies a problem. Since these reactors aren't amenable to produce nuclear fuel capable of being weaponized, it will be a hard sell in the US. It will be a harder sell because of the billions already spent for the current setup...you know 'we can't let all this go to waste?'
But therein lies a safer future for multiple good reasons.
I was invited to officiate my brother's wedding in Kent, England. As an American, I wasn't quite sure what the wedding customs were, but the English mother of the bride (MOTB) definitely had things under control. My comments on the scriptures, aimed to help us all understand about God's hope for the new couple was to be limited, she said, to the time it takes to brew tea. Being a coffee drinker, I hadn't the slightest idea; but she told me, about five minutes.
Upon finishing my delivery at the church blessing, I looked to the MOTB, and asked, 'is it tea?' She nodded, 'just right.'
Re: What a joke!
Microsoft embeds IE in their operating system, which is part of the problem of abusing their dominance in the desktop PC market.
Knowing about other browsers doesn't change the fact one cannot get rid of IE in a Windows OS. You will carry that extra code and storage space no matter what you decide for a browser choice. And any chance it gets, IE pops up for use, and seeking preferential, default, treatment.
We have one computer left in our household with Windows. It has three browsers, one for me (chromium) one for my wife (firefox) and that "background" snake (IE).
Re: Fuck 'em
So! You are proud of pirating the software of a company who makes "standards" by breaking them? And then help to continue foisting these "standards" on the rest of us?!
SwiftKey vs Swype
Swype, as has been mentioned, has a better "flow" than SwiftKey, especially with double letters. It also allows for a smaller width keyboard, which is best for me, as I usually work in landscape on my tablet (less finger travel).
However, SwiftKey's predictive process is the best for next word/phrase. It's recording function works for more than a sentence at a time, which is what you are restricted to in Swype. Both recorders are fairly accurate.
SwiftKey has a temporary price reduction. I think I'll buy.
Re: Stages of competition
um, the win isn't for Microsoft... ahem.
I browsed to microsoft.com to send them a note about this irony from my Chrome browser on my Android tablet!
Whining babies comes to mind...
Re: Difficulty vs annoyance
Mr. Thurrott also says that they should have split the personalities into two OS' - one for tablets/phones and the other, without TIFKAM, as desktop. Read what he says is the danger about Microsoft's gamble:
Re: Not this again!
Downvote for the bullhorn!
I think people are still talking about this, because Microsoft hasn't heard...
Then the next featured headline said it all...
Swollen SUPER-GIGANTO PLANET sighted
This is a weighty decision...
2 lbs! nearly a kilo! surface pro is waaaaay too heavy!
Re: Apple anyone?
Just the bits that they need - the -larger, small- display division, for starters...
there, fixed it for you.
as Samsung would call the 4" screen, mini...
Re: Err...error RICHTO error
'paid-for' should be 'proper'
Re: Err...error RICHTO error
My second laptop I ever owned came without a Microsoft cd/dvd install disk. I wanted to install a feature that is found on such a disk, but when I called Microsoft, they said, "that is up to the manufacturer." On calling the manufacturer, they said, "Microsoft won't let us send out the cd version since we gave you the hard drive installed version."
So much for paid-for support?
This, and other issues, led me to re-format and install Linux soon after. Happy, happy!
Re: MS are ANTI choice.
"Linux - you really can't give it away."
Of course, just like Mr. Allen has discovered that even win8 needs a bit of time for learning. Linux is the same way, a bit of learning, then off you go. In my extended family we have 66 to 3 year olds using Linux. With a little help and their willingness to use it for a week or two, has led to continued use and fewer frantic tech calls later than when they were running windows!
" Nokia gets free software. No wonder it was a no-brainer for Nokia to go for WP7 rather than Android."
...um...Android is free...as in cost and free to change/alter.
"WP8 is probably in the spot where OS/2 was in the PC operating system wars, with Android 2.x/4.x in the role of Windows 9x/NT "
...um...horrible example if meant for an analogy! OS/2 was at least a 7 year predecessor to Win 9x and 5 years for NT. Look how late to the game WP8 is!
Of course, if you mean that WP8 is as viable a candidate now as OS/2 was in its day, you missed the mark there, too.
wow, just wow
I already have an impression...
...and have Linux on "sticks" to rescue those who wish to escape the 'horror."
Re: Gabe Newell
I still have my boxed set of win 1.03, ( five 5.25" floppys) so yes, there was a 1.03. My Color Computer was faster. The GEOS ensemble was multi-threaded and faster, too.
Re: Even the fan boys say no thanks
I think Paul Thurrott's response carries more weight than John C Dvorak's concerning Win8, which speaks even more of MS' miss on this DE.
Re: Astronaut humor
In response to this astronaut humor let me en-capsule-ate: I think Pettit is a little bit spacey.
Re: Don't see why the fuss
Except when you attempt something requiring new tech in a church service ...
... break the electronic concrete of the past and ...
... apply it to your feet!
Pre-Populating means its too late to plan...?
if you tried to tell that to the youth today, they wouldn't believe you!
There fixed it for you-
Viruses are accidentally infecting worms on victims’ Windows computers,
... and ...
the tech industry employs more people than the film industry, anyway! (bls.gov figures)
The big deal...
MS has to make a big deal of their Patch Tuesday. They have to show they are doing something ...
The other OS' just do them. For example, my Linux gets patched when it needs too, not waiting on some scheduled, particular day. I think that is another reason Linux is more secure.
In Russia ...
... Mars probes you!
own little version?
Try ... fastest growth of a social site
Try ... sharing vid chat with 9 others, and can share videos and chat at the same time
Try ... businesses cannot send you messages unless you allow.
Try ... games are not in your face.
Try ... you don't have to wait for someone to friend you back to send them a message
These are just some of the major differences and make G+ not a copy.
...to call someone "hockey puck" if you compare yourself to Don Rickles.
... and ...
And most schizophrenics have at least two accounts.... ahem.
waiting room internet?
Most in the US have it, yes.
I didn't have to give a mobile # to begin with Google+ ?
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